PATSSOX 22 Posted October 15, 2012 from Rotoworld: Report: Murray likely has ligament damage ESPN Dallas reports the Cowboys believe DeMarco Murray (foot) has suffered ligament damage, but avoided a Lisfranc injury. Murray's X-rays came back negative, but he's undergoing an MRI on Monday. Ligament damage would likely mean a multi-week absence, but wouldn't be season-ending like Lisfranc issues almost always are. Nevertheless, it's not good news for a player who fractured his ankle last December and was extremely injury prone in college. Owners would do well to snatch up Felix Jones as they await final word on Murray's injury. Source: ESPN Dallas Oct 15 - 2:50 PM I might have gotten really lucky when i picked up Felix Jones right before the games yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 15, 2012 from Rotoworld: I might have gotten really lucky when i picked up Felix Jones right before the games yesterday. ...he felt good enough to go back in but wasn't allowed by coaches By definition isn't a sprained joint simply ligament damage in of itself? Sprained ankle = ligament damage and same goes for foot? Just guess not a doc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclemercy 51 Posted October 15, 2012 owners would do well to snatch up felix jones for who has the roster room for this mess? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted October 15, 2012 ...he felt good enough to go back in but wasn't allowed by coaches Isn't that the same with McFadden last year when he felt good enough to go back in but wasn't allowed -- causing people to think it was no big deal then BOOM he never comes back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,206 Posted October 15, 2012 Maybe just as well; I won't keep trotting him out there with the insane belief that something different will happen this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted October 15, 2012 Isn't that the same with McFadden last year when he felt good enough to go back in but wasn't allowed -- causing people to think it was no big deal then BOOM he never comes back That is EXACTLY what happened to McFadden. In the early weeks, they claim it was NOT the 'dreaded' lisfranc injury. 1 week gone by...2 weeks..3....4...7....and no signs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 15, 2012 Isn't that the same with McFadden last year when he felt good enough to go back in but wasn't allowed -- causing people to think it was no big deal then BOOM he never comes back Well I watched him run a play looked completely fine and he did not ask to come out. Pain is the ultimate indicator and it must not have been too painful to not even limp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted October 15, 2012 The dirty little secret on Murray is that he has been practically just as injury prone as Fragile Felix, going back to his college career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 15, 2012 So are you guys going to roll with Felix this week? Debating on picking him up off the WW for this week since two of my big RBs are on bye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miggs721 0 Posted October 15, 2012 All you picking up Felix will look like fools, when the true power back, Phillip Tanner steals the show this week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ditka vs. ______ 0 Posted October 15, 2012 All you picking up Felix will look like fools, when the true power back, Phillip Tanner steals the show this week While I'm somewhat inclined to agree with this, I gotta ask anyone who actually watched the game, why didn't Tanner produce with the touches he got? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted October 15, 2012 What about Dunbar? Anything to see there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 15, 2012 No link but the huddle said mri confirmed strain but no list franc and said he could miss this week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedStudent 56 Posted October 15, 2012 What about Dunbar? Anything to see there? I remember hearing something about this guy on a fantasy radio show that basically talked about every fantasy player on every roster and they called him a super super sleeper. Small time College fpootball team. Put up big numbers. Scouts considered him under sized. Not sure if he is just another danny woodhead who they won't trust with enough carries because of his size. But I saw his one carry yesterday and it was impressive. But it's tough to judge a guy on one carry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
braylonjetwards 0 Posted October 15, 2012 No link but the huddle said mri confirmed strain but no list franc and said he could miss this week Murray has a history of getting dinged up but he was also known for being tough in college and playing through injuries. His time missed is a bit exaggerated. Pure speculation, but if it's just a strain I bet he tries to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted October 15, 2012 Here is link to ESPN article on Murray http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8509068/demarco-murray-dallas-cowboys-damaged-ligaments-left-foot http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8505368 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted October 15, 2012 All you picking up Felix will look like fools, when the true power back, Phillip Tanner steals the show this week Haha beat me to it. I was wondering who they had third on the depth chart, since I think they had someone else as well as Tanner. If Murray is going to be out for awhile I will likely get Tanner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Touchdown Inc. 2 Posted October 15, 2012 Phillip Tanner runs very hard. Likely to get short yardage and goal line carries while Murray is out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 15, 2012 Last year when Murray went down how did felix perform and what makes anyone think he got better? Last I heard he barely got a roster spot in camp For some reason Balt really sucks vs run Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Football Guru 212 Posted October 15, 2012 For some reason Balt really sucks vs run One of the best run-stopping OLBs in the league, Jarret Johnson is no longer around to set the edge (which is a big reason why KC and DAL both gashed the Ravens) plus Ray Lewis was not moving with near the swiftness he did even 2-3 years ago. This defense is going to get pounded with outside runs until BAL finds an answer. As for Tanner, I wrote about him last season in the blog as a recommended pickup when I believe both Murray and Jones were hurt. Of course, Dallas blocked his way into fantasy stardom (LOL) when I think Felix returned the first time and signed Sammy Morris the second time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted October 16, 2012 What about Dunbar? Anything to see there? if murray goes down for more than 2 games, dunbar may be worth an add if you have a deep bench. the guy is an insane athlete and a great character guy. i suspect they'll want to limit felix, so there's a possibility for a regular 3rd down rotation. and i'm not just saying that because he went to UNT, where i'm going to grad school. the DAL coaching staff really likes this kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted October 16, 2012 Last year when Murray went down how did felix perform and what makes anyone think he got better? Last I heard he barely got a roster spot in camp For some reason Balt really sucks vs run murray only got the start because jones went down. felix was playing pretty well at the time, given that he played 4 top defenses in 5 games. after murray went down, felix came back and averaged 5+ per carry, with 2 100+yd games out of 5. so not fantastic, but serviceable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grumpycakes 0 Posted October 16, 2012 Would anyone drop Murray for Moore? Moore is open in my league and I've been toying with this idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 16, 2012 murray only got the start because jones went down. felix was playing pretty well at the time, given that he played 4 top defenses in 5 games. after murray went down, felix came back and averaged 5+ per carry, with 2 100+yd games out of 5. so not fantastic, but serviceable. Maybe it was cause other 3 games were stinker? I will try and get him but someone with worse record will grab him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted October 16, 2012 Would anyone drop Murray for Moore? Moore is open in my league and I've been toying with this idea. Denarius or Mewelde? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted October 16, 2012 The dirty little secret on Murray is that he has been practically just as injury prone as Fragile Felix, going back to his college career. The other side of that is Murray only missed 4 games in 4 years due to injury at OU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ditka vs. ______ 0 Posted October 16, 2012 Phillip Tanner runs very hard. Likely to get short yardage and goal line carries while Murray is out. The cowboys don't run it at the goal line, that's why their RB's don't score TD's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc91 0 Posted October 17, 2012 I cant find info anywhere as to how long he will be out... Is this a 1 or 2 weeks injury or something that will linger all year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 17, 2012 ...he felt good enough to go back in but wasn't allowed by coaches By definition isn't a sprained joint simply ligament damage in of itself? Sprained ankle = ligament damage and same goes for foot? Just guess not a doc ligament damage can also mean torn ligaments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arsenal 3 Posted October 17, 2012 I cant find info anywhere as to how long he will be out... Is this a 1 or 2 weeks injury or something that will linger all year? He is saying he will be back in week 8 and while that is certainly no guarantee, it doesn't look like it is too serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 17, 2012 ligament damage can also mean torn ligaments. Amputation involves ligaments too. Gonna cut this footless rb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grumpycakes 0 Posted October 17, 2012 Denarius or Mewelde? Denarius. He's been looking good lately, but you know the Raiders... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted October 18, 2012 He is saying he will be back in week 8 and while that is certainly no guarantee, it doesn't look like it is too serious. "Cowboys concerned DeMarco Murray foot injury could result in multi-game absence but player tells teammates he will play vs Giants next week." -Ed Werder Any more thoughts or news on this topic? Nearly every FF league has an owner who spent a lot or took the claim on Jones. I am thinking Tanner is the better bet after this week.... but that makes no difference if Murray comes back like he says. "Ligament damage" does not sound like a 2 week injury to me, that sounds like season long damage to me. On the other hand Murray sounds none too worried. Prognosis, doctors? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmleonard 0 Posted October 18, 2012 "Cowboys concerned DeMarco Murray foot injury could result in multi-game absence but player tells teammates he will play vs Giants next week." -Ed Werder Any more thoughts or news on this topic? Nearly every FF league has an owner who spent a lot or took the claim on Jones. I am thinking Tanner is the better bet after this week.... but that makes no difference if Murray comes back like he says. "Ligament damage" does not sound like a 2 week injury to me, that sounds like season long damage to me. On the other hand Murray sounds none too worried. Prognosis, doctors? Anything is possible, but I'm not buying it. I had this injury last February and it was nasty. I couldn't walk right for weeks. The Doc told me it is quicker to recover from if you just break the bones. All the ligaments in the foot are what keep your balance. I'm sure they can shoot him up for the pain, but I'll be surprised if he is back in under 4 weeks. There is not much blood flow in the area and it takes a long time to heal. Same thing McFadden had last year....they kept thinking it would heal, but it takes a long time. I was told 12 weeks and I was probably only at 90% at that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 18, 2012 Anything is possible, but I'm not buying it. I had this injury last February and it was nasty. I couldn't walk right for weeks. The Doc told me it is quicker to recover from if you just break the bones. All the ligaments in the foot are what keep your balance. I'm sure they can shoot him up for the pain, but I'll be surprised if he is back in under 4 weeks. There is not much blood flow in the area and it takes a long time to heal. Same thing McFadden had last year....they kept thinking it would heal, but it takes a long time. I was told 12 weeks and I was probably only at 90% at that point. Wow you got some inside info on his exact damage and matched it up with yours. You kick Morts ass and dr. Andrews too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmleonard 0 Posted October 18, 2012 Wow you got some inside info on his exact damage and matched it up with yours. You kick Morts ass and dr. Andrews too You know, I went back and forth about whether to post that because I figured it would probably elicit that type of response. Never claimed to know any more than doctor Andrews or mort, just tried to provide some information based on personal experience. But hey, you are obviously providing much more value to this thread then I, so I'll turn the rest of it over to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted October 19, 2012 Anything is possible, but I'm not buying it. I had this injury last February and it was nasty. I couldn't walk right for weeks. The Doc told me it is quicker to recover from if you just break the bones. All the ligaments in the foot are what keep your balance. I'm sure they can shoot him up for the pain, but I'll be surprised if he is back in under 4 weeks. There is not much blood flow in the area and it takes a long time to heal. Same thing McFadden had last year....they kept thinking it would heal, but it takes a long time. I was told 12 weeks and I was probably only at 90% at that point. Yeah. Picking up Tanner. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted October 19, 2012 You know, I went back and forth about whether to post that because I figured it would probably elicit that type of response. Never claimed to know any more than doctor Andrews or mort, just tried to provide some information based on personal experience. But hey, you are obviously providing much more value to this thread then I, so I'll turn the rest of it over to you. You just burned that kid! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idlewild 6 Posted October 19, 2012 Pickup Dunbar or Tanner? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted October 19, 2012 Pickup Dunbar or Tanner? Tanner is definitely the back up and next in line behind Felix. To be honest, many of us here would like to see Dunbar get more touches - all he does is makes plays when in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites