montana 89 Posted October 27, 2012 GTD. What are your plans? Sucks that they play the late game as it will force us to make a decision by 1pm. I currently have Cook but I may end up dropping him & picking up Grahams handcuff just to CMA. There isn't jack on FA so this may be my only way of starting Graham....or are you rolling with your TE 2 regardless? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted October 27, 2012 Own him in 3 leagues, here are my scenarios. League 1: Not a TE mandatory league (WR/TE) so he's on the bench regardless with D. Thomas (DEN), R. Cobb & D. Moore starting. League 2: Shallow bench & can't drop anyone to replace him (Fitzgerald, Rice, Spiller & JJ Watt). League favors IDP's & the most attractive FA's are Finley & Cook. I'll probably just hope he plays & if not hope the rest of my team picks up the slack. League 3: I have Gresham on bye & someone else snagged Keller as my waiver pickup so I have to roll with Graham. Waivers only process on Thursday's which blows d#*k! Thankfully Harvin & M. Williams spotted me 40 points on TNF. I hope he plays but if not, gets healthy & goes into beast mode next week since I think I can get by this week as is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted October 27, 2012 and I just acquired him in a trade, cause I wasted a draft pick on "Stick a fork in him cause he's Finley". I think his backup scored, eh ? how were his yards and targets ? Maybe be a better option than a garbage TE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted October 27, 2012 Just starting him and won't even look. I have Aaron Hernandez behind him in one league, but he didn't even make the trip so he's an even worse shot. In my other Graham league I had Jared Cook but I realized that Cook's 3 points or so won't actually make a difference. So Graham has that spot on lockdown in that league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted October 27, 2012 Just starting him and won't even look. I have Aaron Hernandez behind him in one league, but he didn't even make the trip so he's an even worse shot. In my other Graham league I had Jared Cook but I realized that Cook's 3 points or so won't actually make a difference. So Graham has that spot on lockdown in that league. That's why I'm not even gonna bother replacing him in one league. Cook & Finley have a better chance to put up 2 points rather than 15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted October 27, 2012 I picked up Tamme Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted October 27, 2012 That's why I'm not even gonna bother replacing him in one league. Cook & Finley have a better chance to put up 2 points rather than 15. Yep, everyone insists TE is so deep so you don't need one. But before last year, you pretty much expected 0-2 pts out of the spot most weeks, with the possible exception of Gates. If you got something out of the position it was always a bonus. Now with Graham/Gronk/Gonzo they're generally a +12 or so every week at the position, since everyone else is so inconsistent. While there is a chance the other TE does something, there is a greater chance they do nothing. QB is the same idea. Sure it's deep, but if you are trotting out Brees every week you're getting 30 pts, while the next tier of QBs is putting up 15-20, giving you a nice +10-15 cushion each week. Get a top QB and a top TE, and now you're looking at +22-27 point advantages each week on average. You're going to win a healthy amount of fantasy games with that. It doesn't mean you will win every game, because it's still random, it just means you have a decent shot at winning half or more of your games provided you are average at least everywhere else. With Graham out, that takes away your advantage but doesn't actually truly even hurt you. If your RB gets a goose egg or is injured you have to try and replace him, but you're trying to replace a 20 or 10 and you're choosing among 5s. That's going to cripple you. Going from the advantage at TE to just being even at TE though or a -3 isn't really a concern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted October 27, 2012 Yep, everyone insists TE is so deep so you don't need one. But before last year, you pretty much expected 0-2 pts out of the spot most weeks, with the possible exception of Gates. If you got something out of the position it was always a bonus. Now with Graham/Gronk/Gonzo they're generally a +12 or so every week at the position, since everyone else is so inconsistent. While there is a chance the other TE does something, there is a greater chance they do nothing. QB is the same idea. Sure it's deep, but if you are trotting out Brees every week you're getting 30 pts, while the next tier of QBs is putting up 15-20, giving you a nice +10-15 cushion each week. Get a top QB and a top TE, and now you're looking at +22-27 point advantages each week on average. You're going to win a healthy amount of fantasy games with that. It doesn't mean you will win every game, because it's still random, it just means you have a decent shot at winning half or more of your games provided you are average at least everywhere else. With Graham out, that takes away your advantage but doesn't actually truly even hurt you. If your RB gets a goose egg or is injured you have to try and replace him, but you're trying to replace a 20 or 10 and you're choosing among 5s. That's going to cripple you. Going from the advantage at TE to just being even at TE though or a -3 isn't really a concern. Couldn't agree more. Considering how I'm personally sitting this week, I'd prefer they have him sit out one more week so he doesn't reaggravate his ankle. Saints are in a must-win situation & are gonna need all the firepower to keep pace with Peyton on SNF. Interesting to see how it all plays out tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted October 27, 2012 Couldn't agree more. Considering how I'm personally sitting this week, I'd prefer they have him sit out one more week so he doesn't reaggravate his ankle. Saints are in a must-win situation & are gonna need all the firepower to keep pace with Peyton on SNF. Interesting to see how it all plays out tomorrow. As of now I am starting him in one league regardless b/c our WW system really sucks a fatty. If you don't add anyone by Thurs then you can't get any FA until the next week. It is a bad system but I also know it was my fault for not acting in time. It is pretty much what I get for trying to manage 5 teams while working as much as I do. In Zealots my options are limited and I may start him just because I am in such a huge hole I need him to get a few lucky TD to even give me a chance of winning. In the rest of my leagues I am probably going to bench him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted October 27, 2012 I picked up Tamme Being his team playing on SNF, the options are low on replacements . I'm thinking either of his counterparts on the other side too -- Tamme or Dreessen . TE free agents are pretty slim in my league, which has a R/W/TE flex . The other possibles, if I pick up today are : Brandon Myers, Coby Fleener, Jared Cook, Anthony Fasano, Logan Paulsen are probably the best candidates . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theADDICT 0 Posted October 27, 2012 my plan is to start keller and hope for the best. i used keller last week and was happy with the result Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted October 27, 2012 As of now I am starting him in one league regardless b/c our WW system really sucks a fatty. If you don't add anyone by Thurs then you can't get any FA until the next week. It is a bad system but I also know it was my fault for not acting in time. It is pretty much what I get for trying to manage 5 teams while working as much as I do. In Zealots my options are limited and I may start him just because I am in such a huge hole I need him to get a few lucky TD to even give me a chance of winning. In the rest of my leagues I am probably going to bench him. Same deal with me. I only placed a waiver claim on Keller & he got snatched up. Should've put in a claim for Brandon Myers but screwed the pooch on that one so now I'm at the mercy of Graham being a GTD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted October 27, 2012 I'm rolling with Martellus instead. The news does not sound good on Graham. Even if he does play (very unlikely, IMO), he probably won't be too effective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted October 27, 2012 if the TE cupboard is bare I'd take a chance on Dreesson. Tamme has been ceding targets to him, especially in the redzone. He seems to have Manning's trust. I'm rolling with him this week, and possibly next week (between him and Olsen) until Hernandez is ready to play again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law 220 Posted October 28, 2012 The late game makes it hard. But, I had D Martin score HUGE so I might be able to roll the dice. My other option is Pettigrew. I may go that route. Undecided at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted October 28, 2012 Same deal with me. I only placed a waiver claim on Keller & he got snatched up. Should've put in a claim for Brandon Myers but screwed the pooch on that one so now I'm at the mercy of Graham being a GTD. Well heres to a slim chance he gives us something this week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lguero1 4 Posted October 28, 2012 I picked up Tamme I dropped Rudolph and left an open TE spot to wait as long as I could to pick up a TE. I picked up Tamme. SHOOTOUT scraps! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdon 28 Posted October 28, 2012 I'm hoping he plays so I picked up his backup (dude scored last week) and we will see how it goes... jdon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted October 28, 2012 I'm hoping he plays so I picked up his backup (dude scored last week) and we will see how it goes... jdon I think this is the move, if you have $3 (in our case and roster space), Finley might be better than his backup (assuming 3yards), but if I gamble with Graham Sunday Night, his backup is the only option if he's in street clothes. I'm doing the same....dude has some seriously low yardage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo Rob 0 Posted October 28, 2012 I picked up Keller and i'm starting him over Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted October 28, 2012 Picked up Myers and will probably start him to avoid the possibility of Graham not playing. (Of course this probably means Graham will play and will have his best day of the year.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrG 94 Posted October 28, 2012 Dreesen is also a late start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston Three Party 6 Posted October 28, 2012 Keller in 2 leagues over Graham. FOCK YOU GRAHAM YOU SOPPY WET VAGINA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ramrock 13 Posted October 28, 2012 sleeper , paulson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gratefulegg1973 253 Posted October 28, 2012 I'll be starting Tom Celek over him. Fock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MY3GSONS 0 Posted October 28, 2012 I picked up dressen as I have Manning. Will go dressen if Graham can't go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted October 28, 2012 Same here. I picked up Dreessen early this morning, will switch out Graham if needed . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray_ray420 5 Posted October 28, 2012 started Cook over Graham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted October 28, 2012 He is a pvssy. I hope someone cleats him in the scrotum. He's burned me too many times this season. Gronk > Graham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted October 28, 2012 Sooo... Is he playing Tonight or not? I need to know if I need to pick up the Wendy's guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted October 28, 2012 Check back around 7:30 EST to be sure . He did make the trip to Denver . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted October 28, 2012 Jimmy G officially active for SNF . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted October 28, 2012 Jimmy G officially active for SNF . Good News, I guess. Thats step 1... Step 2, can get ANYTHING out of him tonight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted October 28, 2012 My other option was Cook who scored 6 points. So if Jimmy G can at least match that I won't feel too bad. Hopefully he'll get 5-60-1. Opponent has Brees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted October 29, 2012 May or may not work out but I replaced P thomas with Graham in my .5 ppr flex. Im down big and am gambling on some redzone tds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted October 29, 2012 Hopefully Brees is thinking, " We'll show them Jimmy's back " and targets him heavily tonight . Keeping fingers crossed . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Touchdown Inc. 2 Posted October 29, 2012 In one league I'm starting him (I've already won) and in another I'm sitting him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted October 29, 2012 He looks like he's running pretty well on that ankle, so hopefully the added rest last week helped his recovery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted October 29, 2012 Those who kept the faith. you were rewarded ! Garbage time score is as good as any . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted October 29, 2012 Those who kept the faith. you were rewarded ! Garbage time score is as good as any . In the league i was forced to start him i would have probably lost had i added some ww bum to get me 3 points (tamme). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
