parrot 789 Posted December 14, 2012 Just saw an article talking about how this is the "2nd Deadliest" school shooting in our history, and ran down the other notables, you know, if you were planning to have a draft or something. Hey, media dumbfocks, the whole ranking bullsh!t, doesn't help. Nor does turning the shooters into media sensations after they are gone. Yes, we need to take a long look at these guys, but leave it to the professionals. The more attention they get, the more it feeds the next crazy fock thinking of doing something similar. Stop being part of the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted December 14, 2012 From the report I heard, the Bushmaster was found in his car and not used in the shooting. Let's not allow facts to get in the way of the rhetoric. And yes, to the poster that asked, a Bushmaster is a AR15 variant. One of several companies that make that model firearm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted December 14, 2012 I have no problem with responsible gun ownership. There are people who are obsessed with guns that I think are freaks, but whatever. As long as they're not doing anything illegal. Seriously, though, even if you think you should be allowed to own a machine gun, don't you think there needs to be some kind of mental health database to keep crazy people from getting guns? I know there are other ways they could get them, and there's no way to ensure that people would get put in the system before they went crazy, but, jesus, just to at least have that in place. This is the worst thing I've ever read about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted December 14, 2012 I have no problem with responsible gun ownership. There are people who are obsessed with guns that I think are freaks, but whatever. As long as they're not doing anything illegal. Seriously, though, even if you think you should be allowed to own a machine gun, don't you think there needs to be some kind of mental health database to keep crazy people from getting guns? I know there are other ways they could get them, and there's no way to ensure that people would get put in the system before they went crazy, but, jesus, just to at least have that in place. This is the worst thing I've ever read about Yes, I do. However, my only concern is that once you give that leverage to the .gov, they could easily impose a ban via proxy by saying certain things put you on that list. Such as a DWI, or seeing a DR for depression, etc. That being said, yes, I would like to see folks that are not mentally stable, unable to acquire firearms. You can't unopen Pandora's box. Guns will NEVER disappear. There are too many of them out there. There are other countries that will attempt to fill that void if we stop production here. I honestly don't have a good answer for this sh1t. People should spend more time with their kids and less time worrying about their 401k's, careers and whatever other self-absorbing obsessions we have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted December 14, 2012 or seeing a DR for depression, etc. dude, depression, bipolar, schizo, etc is what leads these people to shoot the joint up. WTF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,153 Posted December 14, 2012 Let's not allow facts to get in the way of the rhetoric. You're the one that first comes in here and says "now is not the time" but then 10 mintues later puts out a report about that it was "only handguns used". Which is blatenly you trying to let us know it was just handguns (instead of posting about the victims). So either stop with your own bullshit or shut the fock up about rhetoric. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 14, 2012 So tragic and senseless. As a parent, I don't wish this pain on even my worst of enemies. I'll definitely hold mine extra tight at bed time tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted December 14, 2012 This is the worst thing I've ever read about I didn't know if you could really get more heinous than the Amish school massacre, but this might be. Just so focked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,583 Posted December 14, 2012 You're the one that first comes in here and says "now is not the time" but then 10 mintues later puts out a report about that it was "only handguns used". Which is blatenly you trying to let us know it was just handguns (instead of posting about the victims). So either stop with your own bullshit or shut the fock up about rhetoric. It wasn't the time 10 minutes before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,006 Posted December 14, 2012 You can't unopen Pandora's box. Guns will NEVER disappear. There are too many of them out there. Not completely disappear, but they can be made very difficult to obtain and extremely expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted December 14, 2012 You're the one that first comes in here and says "now is not the time" but then 10 mintues later puts out a report about that it was "only handguns used". Which is blatenly you trying to let us know it was just handguns (instead of posting about the victims). So either stop with your own bullshit or shut the fock up about rhetoric. Try to keep up sport. I said now is not the time to get into the argument of gun rights vs. safety. When folks try to spread disinformation, I simply corrected them. There's a big difference. Surely you can note the discrepancies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted December 14, 2012 Try to keep up sport. I said now is not the time to get into the argument of gun rights vs. safety. When folks try to spread disinformation, I simply corrected them. There's a big difference. Surely you can note the discrepancies. dude who gives a fock what kind of guns were used? A crazy fock had them, that's all that matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 198 Posted December 14, 2012 I was in school over 30 years ago. Never had anything happen like this, Colombine, the movie theatre, the mall ones, VA Tech. What's it going to look like in 30 more years? By that time, it will be a weekly occurance on the backpage of the newspaper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted December 14, 2012 You can't set up metal detectors and security screening everywhere. We won't be able to solve this problem with a fortress mentality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 198 Posted December 14, 2012 You can't set up metal detectors and security screening everywhere. We won't be able to solve this problem with a fortress mentality. Only way is to eliminate these mental midgets before they act. People knew this guy was a ticking time bomb. Right now one of these ticking timebombs is taking notes and preparing to top it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted December 14, 2012 This is the worst thing I've ever read about Not even close to the decades of torture Sandusky and Peterno's victims were subjected too. God be with the families of the dead and the living children involved. The one saving grace is this nut job offed himself. I don't think I could deal with a liberal east coast lawyer and judge not killing this scum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,583 Posted December 14, 2012 I was in school over 30 years ago. Never had anything happen like this, Colombine, the movie theatre, the mall ones, VA Tech. What's it going to look like in 30 more years? By that time, it will be a weekly occurance on the backpage of the newspaper. You can pretty much blame our current state of the media for alot of these sensless killings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 1 Posted December 14, 2012 Wow...what a sick sick fock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,006 Posted December 14, 2012 The one saving grace is this nut job offed himself. I don't think I could deal with a liberal east coast lawyer and judge not killing this scum. Actually, in tragedies like this I think it's better to have someone to put on trial and blame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted December 14, 2012 You can pretty much blame our current state of the media for alot of these sensless killings. How so? Is the media not supposed to report a major event like this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted December 14, 2012 Actually, in tragedies like this I think it's better to have someone to put on trial and blame. We have someone to blame why do you need a trial? Do you have sympathy for the cowardly bastard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 198 Posted December 14, 2012 Actually, in tragedies like this I think it's better to have someone to put on trial and blame. And then perform public torture to the brink of death and then letting him heal up for more rounds of excrutiating torture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted December 14, 2012 And then perform public torture to the brink of death and then letting him heal up for more rounds of excrutiating torture. Now that would be cool. The father of each dead kid gets to beat him almost to death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted December 14, 2012 Not even close to the decades of torture Sandusky and Peterno's victims were subjected too. uh, ok. I guess I'm slightly interested as to why you think taking a shower with a kid is worse than shooting him execution style, but I don't think we need to get into ranking this stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 1 Posted December 14, 2012 Has anyone been able to watch the interview with the teacher Kaitlin Roig and not break down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted December 14, 2012 How so? Is the media not supposed to report a major event like this? They can report it without sensationalizing it so much. It's not about getting us information, it's about generating ratings or website hits. They were in such a rush to name the shooter, they apparently named the wrong guy. Lots of erroneous information coming out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedStudent 56 Posted December 14, 2012 This just makes me sick. I'm for stricter gun controls. More along the lines of background checks and and banning concealment of weapons in public. But I am not naive enough to think they would prevent most incidences like this from happening. It's just focked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted December 14, 2012 uh, ok. I guess I'm slightly interested as to why you think taking a shower with a kid is worse than shooting him execution style, but I don't think we need to get into ranking this stuff Fair enough, you are correct, I will restate. I completely and totally disagree that this is the worst thing I have ever read about and as a matter of fact it isn’t even remotely close to the worst thing I have read about in the last 5 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,006 Posted December 14, 2012 We have someone to blame why do you need a trial? Do you have sympathy for the cowardly bastard? Not sympathy for the killer. But I think the grieving process goes better when there's somebody to put on trail and point a finger at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted December 14, 2012 This just makes me sick. I'm for stricter gun controls. More along the lines of background checks and and banning concealment of weapons in public. But I am not naive enough to think they would prevent most incidences like this from happening. It's just focked up. Amen brother amen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,652 Posted December 14, 2012 If the shooter didn't have a gun he would've just gone on a knifing rampage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,583 Posted December 14, 2012 They can report it without sensationalizing it so much. It's not about getting us information, it's about generating ratings or website hits. They were in such a rush to name the shooter, they apparently named the wrong guy. Lots of erroneous information coming out. Pretty much this. The next moonbat in waiting is already planning his massacre to top this mornings events. Why the fock should we know every intimate detail about this dickless wonder? You want to get immortalized in this country? Kill a bunch of people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted December 15, 2012 Not sympathy for the killer. But I think the grieving process goes better when there's somebody to put on trail and point a finger at. You may be correct I don't know. In my mind it is not worth the risk of 26 families having to watch this piece of sh!t be allowed to live in a mental institution for the rest of his life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted December 15, 2012 Whatever is going to happen in this country, this was the one. This was the tipping point. It's one thing to kill a bunch of college kids, or adults in a movie theater. But this mothetfucker decided to go to an elementary school and kill 18 babies. Does anyone expect a single kindergartner to ever feel safe attending that school ever again? Could you ask your 5 year old to go back to that school after she (or he) witnessed this day and promise her (or him) she will be safe? Fucck no I couldn't. I've never been so affected by a news story. Tonight is my wife's night with my 2 year old daughter (we are separated) but I had to go up to the daycare anyway and just sit and hold her for awhile and tell her how much I love her. Of course she is just excited to tell me about her Christmas party and the book she got as a present today. Innocent without any knowledge of the bullshiit that exists in this world. Anyway.....ugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,793 Posted December 15, 2012 The guy that I can't help but feel badly for (unless new information negates that) is the shooter's brother. 1. First the media reports Bro as the shooter. 2. Then he's taken into custody 3. ..And told that both his Mother and Brother were dead 4. And then told that his brother killed 2 dozen + people. - Mostly kids. Sure, if the cops were to tell ME #3 right about now I'd be all KINDS of but that's another story... Dude's Gotta be having one seriously F'ed up day too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,793 Posted December 15, 2012 By the way, is it just me or does anyone else want to punch the idiot reporters who are interviewing CHILDREN about what happened? And,at least a head slap to the parents who let it happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 198 Posted December 15, 2012 The guy that I can't help but feel badly for (unless new information negates that) is the shooter's brother. 1. First the media reports Bro as the shooter. 2. Then he's taken into custody 3. ..And told that both his Mother and Brother were dead 4. And then told that his brother killed 2 dozen + people. - Mostly kids. Sure, if the cops were to tell ME #3 right about now I'd be all KINDS of but that's another story... Dude's Gotta be having one seriously F'ed up day too. Dude is a real live case of the walking dead. Life for him is over yet he lives. Even an identity change is going to be hard to live with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 198 Posted December 15, 2012 By the way, is it just me or does anyone else want to punch the idiot reporters who are interviewing CHILDREN about what happened? And,at least a head slap to the parents who let it happen. Yeah. Those parents are totally ###### up in the head. They serioulsy have mental problems to let their children talk to the media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites