BunnysBastatrds 2,412 Posted May 28, 2013 http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/doj-tells-employees-to-verbally-affirm-homosexuality.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 28, 2013 Why must you demand that we all know you DON'T demand for special treatment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,412 Posted May 28, 2013 The Department of Justice has been accused of religious intolerance and viewpoint discrimination after workers were sent an email directing them to verbally affirm homosexuality, according to a law firm specializing in religious liberty and now representing a DOJ whistleblower. Liberty Counsel said DOJ employees were emailed a brochure called “LGBT Inclusion at Work: The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Managers.” The brochure was created as a resource from DOJ Pride, an association of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees of the DOJ. A Department of Justice spokesperson did not return calls seeking comment. Fox News also reached out to DOJ Pride for comment – but emails were not answered. Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality. “Don’t judge or remain silent,” the brochure read. “Silence will be interpreted as disapproval.” They were also told to post “DOJ Pride” stickers in their office to indicate “that it is a safe place.” One gay DOJ employee is quoted in the directive; “Silence seems like disapproval. There’s still an atmosphere of LGBT issues not being appropriate for the workplace (particularly for transgender people), or that people who bring it up are trying to rock the boat.” Mat Staver, founder of Liberty Counsel, said every American should be outraged by the DOJ orders. “This administration is pushing the most radical, immoral agenda on the American people,” Staver said. “Christians are not merely required to ‘shut up,’ but now they are being coerced to embrace immorality that goes against their sincerely held religious beliefs.” Liberty Counsel is representing an unidentified female DOJ worker in Washington, D.C. who received the brochure. Staver said the woman is terrified she might lose her job unless she publicly affirms homosexuality – and she’s not the only one. “Christians are frightened and terrified of losing their jobs,” Staver told Fox News. “You just can’t keep you head down and do your job. Now you have to become an advocate for the LGBT agenda – and if you don’t – the DOJ will consider that to be intolerant.” Staver said the idea that Christians who might oppose homosexuality have to put up a pro-gay symbol in their office smacks of thought police. “Under this directive, one cannot be a Christian and a manager at the Department of Justice,” he said. “How does one who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Bible display ‘gay pride’ stickers?” Liberty Counsel vice president Matt Barber told Fox News the DOJ has created an extremely hostile work environment for Christians. “This is ‘1984’ just a few decades late,” Barber said. “This is so Orwellian. President Obama said he intended to fundamentally transform America. That’s exactly what they are doing and they are doing it within the Department of Justice.” Barber said some female DOJ workers have also expressed concerns about transgender workers using their bathroom facilities. “They (DOJ leaders) have said if you are uncomfortable with a man in a skirt using the facilities – then tough – you need to get over it,” Barber told Fox News. The brochure quoted a male employee who dresses like a woman: “I want people to understand that I’m real. I want to be recognized as the gender I really am…Just imagine if people were constantly debating YOUR bathroom privileges. Imagine how humiliating that would be.” Workers were also told to use “inclusive” words like partner or significant other – rather than traditional terms like husband or wife. They were also told to use a transgender person’s chosen name and the pronoun that is consistent with the person’s self-identified gender. DOJ employees were told to stop using phrases like “gay lifestyle” or “sexual preference” –because those words are “considered by many as offensive.” Barber said it was a form of sexual harassment. “If you feel sexually harassed and complain about it – then you are the one who could get in trouble – because you’ve violated the transgender person’s rights,” he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,281 Posted May 28, 2013 Get off the Christian angle. There's no way I'd put up a DOJ Pride sticker in my cubicle or change my vocabulary either and I'm a heathen and a half. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted May 28, 2013 Frank M will approve of this policy. ...2...1... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,412 Posted May 28, 2013 Get off the Christian angle. There's no way I'd put up a DOJ Pride sticker in my cubicle either and I'm a heathen and a half. Not going the Christian angle. Gheys keep demanding they don't want special treatment. That's a lie. They demand to be recognized and know what get's inserted in their orifices. I wouldn't say a word about it to any of them. If it was brought up and I was demanded to recognize them, I would put my head down and walk away. And I'd love for them to fire me because of it. They have no idea what my thoughts are based on that action. The thought police are here and they're queer. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 596 Posted May 28, 2013 Can't people just do their jobs then go home to whomever they want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 28, 2013 Once they finally get the equal rights they deserve, all this crap will stop. So the conservatives control it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 28, 2013 Can't people just do their jobs then go home to whomever they want? I don't care if a dood likes to throat hog - I only take issue when they have those annoying ass parades, commercials, posters, ------------ ie when they like throw - "were here were queer get used to it" in our faces every chance they get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 28, 2013 Once we finally get the equal rights that we deserve, all this crap will stop. So the conservatives control it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 28, 2013 You're one of them. So if course you don't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 28, 2013 You're one of them. So if course you don't get it. Says the guy that played nekkid leap frog into their teens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 28, 2013 Says the guy that played nekkid leap frog into their teens. oh dear god. You're not that stupid are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted May 28, 2013 I don't care if a dood likes to throat hog - I only take issue when they have those annoying ass parades, commercials, posters, ------------ ie when they like throw - "were here were queer get used to it" in our faces every chance they get. So... as long as you don't have to "see" it, you're ok with it. Gotcha... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 28, 2013 oh dear god. You're not that stupid are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 28, 2013 you should change your membername to gullible dumbass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,281 Posted May 28, 2013 BunnysBastatrds, on 29 May 2013 - 05:49 AM, said: Not going the Christian angle. Gheys keep demanding they don't want special treatment. That's a lie. They demand to be recognized and know what get's inserted in their orifices. I wouldn't say a word about it to any of them. If it was brought up and I was demanded to recognize them, I would put my head down and walk away. And I'd love for them to fire me because of it. They have no idea what my thoughts are based on that action. The thought police are here and they're queer. . Not you, you didn't bring it up. It's your source that is full of Christian-only outrage. Atheists,Jews, Muslims, Buddhists -pretty much anybody- would tend to agree. Let me the fock alone and -OK, give me the sticker and the 'inclusion sermon' at the BS sensitivity training session we were all forced to attend- but I'll put up the sticker if I d@mn well please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted May 28, 2013 So... as long as you don't have to "see" it, you're ok with it. Gotcha...Straight or gay over the top PDA is offensive. It's not a business or working topic. It's irrelevant. I work with plenty of people who are gay and they make no efforts to either promote it or hide it, it works fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted May 28, 2013 Straight or gay over the top PDA is offensive. It's not a business or working topic. It's irrelevant. I work with plenty of people who are gay and they make no efforts to either promote it or hide it, it works fine. He mentioned parades, posters and commercials, not PDA. He was basically saying as long as they stay in the closet, he's fine with it. At least, that was my interpretation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted May 29, 2013 Not going the Christian angle. Gheys keep demanding they don't want special treatment. That's a lie. They demand to be recognized and know what get's inserted in their orifices. I wouldn't say a word about it to any of them. If it was brought up and I was demanded to recognize them, I would put my head down and walk away. And I'd love for them to fire me because of it. They have no idea what my thoughts are based on that action. The thought police are here and they're queer. . And they don't want anymore bears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted May 29, 2013 Straight or gay over the top PDA is offensive. It's not a business or working topic. It's irrelevant. I work with plenty of people who are gay and they make no efforts to either promote it or hide it, it works fine. Well put. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,412 Posted May 29, 2013 Not you, you didn't bring it up. It's your source that is full of Christian-only outrage. Atheists,Jews, Muslims, Buddhists -pretty much anybody- would tend to agree. Let me the fock alone and -OK, give me the sticker and the 'inclusion sermon' at the BS sensitivity training session we were all forced to attend- but I'll put up the sticker if I d@mn well please. I brought up a story about a goverment agency demanding they recognize ghey people within their work force. They demand that all not be silent which forces federal employees to not remain silent as that silence would show their so-called non-approval. That's some pretty scary sh!t right there. If I don't stand up for you Chip, I could be labeled a biggoted homophobe. What If I choose not to piss off either side of the debate? What if I'd rather keep my opinions to myself in the workplace and do what I was hired to do and get along personally with everybody? The goverment is going to force me to agree with them or me risk penalty? Even if I decide to not have an opinion one way or another my silence can get me fired? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted May 29, 2013 I brought up a story about a goverment agency demanding they recognize ghey people within their work force. They demand that all not be silent which forces federal employees to not remain silent as that silence would show their so-called non-approval. That's some pretty scary sh!t right there. If I don't stand up for you Chip, I could be labeled a biggoted homophobe. What If I choose not to piss off either side of the debate? What if I'd rather keep my opinions to myself in the workplace and do what I was hired to do and get along personally with everybody? The goverment is going to force me to agree with them or me risk penalty? Even if I decide to not have an opinion one way or another my silence can get me fired? I didn't see anything about consequences for ignoring the brochure. Can you highlight the part about penalties for inaction? Also, I'd be content if both Christians and gays kept their personal lives out of the workplace, but wouldn't disapprove of either if the subject came up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,412 Posted May 29, 2013 I didn't see anything about consequences for ignoring the brochure. Can you highlight the part about penalties for inaction? Also, I'd be content if both Christians and gays kept their personal lives out of the workplace, but wouldn't disapprove of either if the subject came up. Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality. “Don’t judge or remain silent,” the brochure read. “Silence will be interpreted as disapproval.” Last time I checked, intolerant folks are subjected to political correctness standars not seen in a generation. Not agreeing or speaking out for these folks is bad under the guide lines presented. Looks like silence under these guidelines have consequences that aren't good for those who decide to remain silent. If you're ok with this, please explain why. I'm told to have a voiced opinion. I choose not to. I choose not to post a sticker in my office for those reasons. What should my punishment be under those said guidlines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted May 29, 2013 Straight or gay over the top PDA is offensive. It's not a business or working topic. It's irrelevant. I work with plenty of people who are gay and they make no efforts to either promote it or hide it, it works fine.This. Same goes for bible thumping, talking about your wife/husband, and cooking fish in the microwave. Leave it at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted May 29, 2013 Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality. “Don’t judge or remain silent,” the brochure read. “Silence will be interpreted as disapproval.” Last time I checked, intolerant folks are subjected to political correctness standars not seen in a generation. Not agreeing or speaking out for these folks is bad under the guide lines presented. Looks like silence under these guidelines have consequences that aren't good for those who decide to remain silent. If you're ok with this, please explain why. I'm told to have a voiced opinion. I choose not to. I choose not to post a sticker in my office for those reasons. What should my punishment be under those said guidlines? I think the policy is silly, but so is your interpretation of the ramifications of its implementation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,412 Posted May 29, 2013 I think the policy is silly, but so is your interpretation of the ramifications of its implementation. I'd say the policy is dangerous. Why threaten employees if there are to be no ramifications? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted May 29, 2013 The irony is that as 'race' and sexual orientation become irrelevant, the market for these ever expanding political advocacy groups shrinks... But these groups are continually expanding in number, size and scope... We are say half a generation away from these issues being basically gone... Will these groups be gone as well? I'd bet the opposite. Let remember, its not about fair, its about power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 29, 2013 The irony is that as 'race' and sexual orientation become irrelevant, the market for these ever expanding political advocacy groups shrinks... But these groups are continually expanding in number, size and scope... We are say half a generation away from these issues being basically gone... Will these groups be gone as well? I'd bet the opposite. Let remember, its not about fair, its about power. I would think that the number of gays wouldn't increase. Probably decrease, if anything. Pretty hard for two homos to pass down their genes to offspring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted May 29, 2013 I would think that the number of gays wouldn't increase. Probably decrease, if anything. Pretty hard for two homos to pass down their genes to offspring. I'm pretty sure they have never found a "ghey gene". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted May 29, 2013 I'm pretty sure they have never found a "ghey gene". Well, there's certainly something different about them. Thankfully, they can't reproduce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted May 29, 2013 Well, there's certainly something different about them. Thankfully, they can't reproduce. Sometimes you crack me up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted May 29, 2013 I would think that the number of gays wouldn't increase. Probably decrease, if anything. Pretty hard for two homos to pass down their genes to offspring. The number is irrelevant. I'm talking about the people profitting off this.... The greenpeace model... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted May 29, 2013 Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality. “Don’t judge or remain silent,” the brochure read. “Silence will be interpreted as disapproval.” Last time I checked, intolerant folks are subjected to political correctness standars not seen in a generation. Not agreeing or speaking out for these folks is bad under the guide lines presented. Looks like silence under these guidelines have consequences that aren't good for those who decide to remain silent. If you're ok with this, please explain why. I'm told to have a voiced opinion. I choose not to. I choose not to post a sticker in my office for those reasons. What should my punishment be under those said guidlines? "Brochure". This isn't a policy manual, it's a brochure suggesting ways for managers to be more effective when dealing with these types of employees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted May 29, 2013 Once they finally get the equal rights they deserve, all this crap will stop. So the conservatives control it. This is a lie. These groups are looking for power... Its like saying once the economy gets good the government will stop spending so much money... Nope, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,281 Posted May 29, 2013 The irony is that as 'race' and sexual orientation become irrelevant, the market for these ever expanding political advocacy groups shrinks... But these groups are continually expanding in number, size and scope... We are say half a generation away from these issues being basically gone... Will these groups be gone as well? I'd bet the opposite. Let remember, its not about fair, its about power. Maybe they'll continue to find something else to b*tch about like the black agenda crowd have done even though all their battles were won 40 years ago. but the hope is they fade away like the abolitionists when there was nothing to abolish (no offense, I would have been one 150 years ago. I can sing John Brown's Body.) anymore or the prohibitionists when the war on booze was lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted May 30, 2013 I'd say the policy is dangerous. Why threaten employees if there are to be no ramifications? There is no threat. It's a pamphlet for managers suggesting ways to be more tolerant of LGBT, not a directive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted May 30, 2013 "Brochure". This isn't a policy manual, it's a brochure suggesting ways for managers to be more effective when dealing with these types of employees. This guy gets it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,733 Posted May 30, 2013 There is no threat. It's a pamphlet for managers suggesting ways to be more tolerant of LGBT, not a directive.You can't be this naive. Your employer gives you a pamphlet with suggestions, the implication is that it is in your best interest to follow said suggestions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites