Sho Nuff 720 Posted February 18, 2014 CNN is often propped by the libs here as an unbiased news agency; I present to you the article from CNN in Frozenbeernuts' "Kansas Dbags" thread. I challenge the libs here to read this account of the proposed bill and determine if it is a fair, unbiased representation. I honestly don't know because I haven't studied the actual bill. But it sure reads like it has an opinion, and then begrudgingly admits there are some "concessions," like the business still has to provide the service to gheys. http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/us/kansas-bill-same-sex-services/ So in all of it...you admit you don't even know. It reads like it has a bias or an opinion because of your own bias right off the bat. CNN does have a slight left lean to them as far as I am concerned. Nowhere near the right leaning of FoxNews or the more left leaning MSNBC. BTW, that bill should be destroyed...its hilarious that anyone wants to claim its a bill about freedoms while trying to limit other people's freedoms at the same time. Its an awful bill and ridiculous how shortsighted and stupid it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted February 18, 2014 Notice who you didn't show up in the thread about how much the site is worth. Fraud. Im shocked...he usually flocks to anything and everything about the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted February 18, 2014 You said Fox News twice, which is actually accurate. There are opinion shows like Hannity which are far right. But I'd put Neil Cavutu up against any journalist from another station for integrity. Oops, meant Wall Street Journal the second go-around. No I was NOT correct initially Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,974 Posted February 18, 2014 So in all of it...you admit you don't even know. It reads like it has a bias or an opinion because of your own bias right off the bat. CNN does have a slight left lean to them as far as I am concerned. Nowhere near the right leaning of FoxNews or the more left leaning MSNBC. BTW, that bill should be destroyed...its hilarious that anyone wants to claim its a bill about freedoms while trying to limit other people's freedoms at the same time. Its an awful bill and ridiculous how shortsighted and stupid it is. You failed my challenge. This article has every bit the type of bias that you accuse Fox News of. I can't prove if you've studied the actual bill or not, but that isn't the point. The point is that this article makes virtually no attempt to be unbiased; in fact, the "concessions" section comes off as an editor who tried to wedge in an appearance of impartiality. Again, I make no comment on the bill itself. Just the way it is "reported." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted February 18, 2014 You failed my challenge. This article has every bit the type of bias that you accuse Fox News of. I can't prove if you've studied the actual bill or not, but that isn't the point. The point is that this article makes virtually no attempt to be unbiased; in fact, the "concessions" section comes off as an editor who tried to wedge in an appearance of impartiality. Again, I make no comment on the bill itself. Just the way it is "reported." It was reported correctly for what a piece of crap it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted February 18, 2014 Care to post one link to anything I have supported that is progressive or socialist? Obama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,974 Posted February 18, 2014 It was reported correctly for what a piece of crap it is. That's not "reporting," that's "opinion." Clearly you don't see the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,670 Posted February 18, 2014 CNN is often propped by the libs here as an unbiased news agency; I present to you the article from CNN in Frozenbeernuts' "Kansas Dbags" thread. I challenge the libs here to read this account of the proposed bill and determine if it is a fair, unbiased representation. I honestly don't know because I haven't studied the actual bill. But it sure reads like it has an opinion, and then begrudgingly admits there are some "concessions," like the business still has to provide the service to gheys. http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/us/kansas-bill-same-sex-services/ Well I bothered to read it. I'm not going to defend a news agency I don't read or watch, but I don't see anything crazily biased in there. I guess if you identified the biased phrases or passages I'd be open to changing my mind. But in my experience conservatives come at this discussion of what is or isn't biased with a lot of conviction to the point that disagreeing means you're a biased liberal too, and that's something of a non starter. FWIW I boycott all cable news programs by not watching and think calling up sponsors is dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted February 18, 2014 Well I bothered to read it. I'm not going to defend a news agency I don't read or watch, but I don't see anything crazily biased in there. I guess if you identified the biased phrases or passages I'd be open to changing my mind. But in my experience conservatives come at this discussion of what is or isn't biased with a lot of conviction to the point that disagreeing means you're a biased liberal too, and that's something of a non starter. FWIW I boycott all cable news programs by not watching and think calling up sponsors is dumb. Apparently you should throw out the New York Times and Wall Street Journal as well. Perhaps and professional/trade journals you read too, they're probably just as bad as Fox News Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted February 18, 2014 That's not "reporting," that's "opinion." Clearly you don't see the difference. When its something that is blatant crap...it should be criticized for what it is doing...which was limiting the rights of people. Again...sure, there are slanted pieces on CNN...not sure anyone would disagree there anyway. And a huge LOL at the claim that I support Obama (not from you jerry). Yeah...I supported by voting for him all of...oh yeah, never. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,670 Posted February 18, 2014 Apparently you should throw out the New York Times and Wall Street Journal as well. Perhaps and professional/trade journals you read too, they're probably just as bad as Fox News I haven't read the NYT in years. I read the WSJ entirely for work reasons, but the lack of a sports page bugs me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,974 Posted February 18, 2014 When its something that is blatant crap...it should be criticized for what it is doing...which was limiting the rights of people. Again...sure, there are slanted pieces on CNN...not sure anyone would disagree there anyway. Well, 72 members of the Kansas House thought it was worth doing. I suppose it is possible that they are all Maxine Waters level of stupid, but I doubt it. So it's possible that they have a different opinion than what you consider "blatant crap." Oh, and the admission that CNN has slanted pieces is actually a big step. CNN is typically held up as the bastion of impartiality on this site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted February 18, 2014 Well, 72 members of the Kansas House thought it was worth doing. I suppose it is possible that they are all Maxine Waters level of stupid, but I doubt it. So it's possible that they have a different opinion than what you consider "blatant crap." Oh, and the admission that CNN has slanted pieces is actually a big step. CNN is typically held up as the bastion of impartiality on this site. Really? I've always heard it as less-biased than it's major counterparts. Not totally impartial, just not quite so blatantly one-sided. At any rate I rarely watch any cable news at all, so I won't waste much breath defending them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,544 Posted February 18, 2014 Doubtful...considering polls have shown that FoxNews watchers are typically less informed than others. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/ 2011 info...doubt it got any better. Cue people whining about the validity of the polling next. Fox and MSNBC blow...they present their slanted views of the news as well as very biased commentary. Its obvious to pretty much anyone. Funny how you take the highest rated cable news organization and compare them to the loest rated news organization. Your lame attempt to group them in the same basket phails on many levels. They are not the same. One is successful. The other one strives to be as successful but can't as most see through their Fawking BS. The funniest thing about it is progressive producers feel the need to be patient and endure the low ratings in hopes things will change and their stoopid Fawking demographic viewers will somehow see the light they see. My favorite being Air America. Lost many and listeners every quarter but kept going with the hopes somebody would listen. Final result........bankrupt and lost the franchise. I listened to them religiously when I could. Best radio on FM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted February 18, 2014 Really? I've always heard it as less-biased than it's major counterparts. Not totally impartial, just not quite so blatantly one-sided. At any rate I rarely watch any cable news at all, so I won't waste much breath defending them. Another libturd who doesn't watch cable news.....................yet knows everything that goes on on cable news. You can't make this stuff up folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,974 Posted February 18, 2014 Another libturd who doesn't watch cable news.....................yet knows everything that goes on on cable news. You can't make this stuff up folks. Worms is having a tough thread here. He basically got knocked out by the haymaker that the NYT admitted to being a progressive news organization. CNN is just a kick in the balls while he is unconscious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted February 18, 2014 Worms is having a tough thread here. If you think this one is bad, you should read the one today where he tried to dabble in legal issues again. That one was really ugly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted February 18, 2014 Another libturd who doesn't watch cable news.....................yet knows everything that goes on on cable news. You can't make this stuff up folks. It's mainly stupid knee-jerk conservatives who watch cable news, like you, drobeski, and, sadly, jerry. That's why Fox News slays the ratings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted February 18, 2014 Worms is having a tough thread here. He basically got knocked out by the haymaker that the NYT admitted to being a progressive news organization. CNN is just a kick in the balls while he is unconscious. It's really just more of the same from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted February 18, 2014 It's mainly stupid knee-jerk conservatives who watch cable news, like you, drobeski, and, sadly, jerry. That's why Fox News slays the ratings So, you don't watch cable news...................yet know everything about anyone who does? What a dumbass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted February 18, 2014 It's mainly stupid knee-jerk conservatives who watch cable news, like you, drobeski, and, sadly, jerry. That's why Fox News slays the ratings From the guy who is the King of knee-jerk reactions around here. Once again, I'm actually embarrassed for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted February 18, 2014 From the guy who is the King of knee-jerk reactions around here. Once again, I'm actually embarrassed for you. :worms: "Zimmerman was standing over him while he begged for his life before he murdered him in cold blood!!!:worms: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted February 18, 2014 Talking to yourself again Rusty? Poker at Jose's--get the whole gang together! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,974 Posted February 18, 2014 It's mainly stupid knee-jerk conservatives who watch cable news, like you, drobeski, and, sadly, jerry. That's why Fox News slays the ratings So where do you get your treasure trove of liberal facts, Worms? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted February 18, 2014 So where do you get your treasure trove of liberal facts, Worms? What do you mean? If you're asking where I get my news, I read a variety of sources, most often New York Times, Wall Street Journal and the New Yorker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted February 18, 2014 Well, 72 members of the Kansas House thought it was worth doing. I suppose it is possible that they are all Maxine Waters level of stupid, but I doubt it. So it's possible that they have a different opinion than what you consider "blatant crap." Oh, and the admission that CNN has slanted pieces is actually a big step. CNN is typically held up as the bastion of impartiality on this site. And those 72 members should be mocked for what they were doing. I have never claimed they are some great impartial king of media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted February 18, 2014 Funny how you take the highest rated cable news organization and compare them to the loest rated news organization. Your lame attempt to group them in the same basket phails on many levels. They are not the same. One is successful. The other one strives to be as successful but can't as most see through their Fawking BS. The funniest thing about it is progressive producers feel the need to be patient and endure the low ratings in hopes things will change and their stoopid Fawking demographic viewers will somehow see the light they see. My favorite being Air America. Lost many and listeners every quarter but kept going with the hopes somebody would listen. Final result........bankrupt and lost the franchise. I listened to them religiously when I could. Best radio on FM. I grouped them by their slant and content. If you want to compare ratings...great, Fox wins. Their ratings have nothing to do with whether they are biased or not. You basically did nothing to refute what I said...congrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,974 Posted February 18, 2014 And those 72 members should be mocked for what they were doing. I have never claimed they are some great impartial king of media. I feel like we are in Spinal Tap and this is where you tell me that this amp goes to eleven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,585 Posted February 18, 2014 Jerryskids winning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,928 Posted February 18, 2014 I wish whoever was in charge would come by and bomb this thread and take all of you goons off the map. A heaping pile of goofy politically hacks; gathering of the worst posters on this bored. Die off already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,974 Posted February 18, 2014 I wish whoever was in charge would come by and bomb this thread and take all of you goons off the map. A heaping pile of goofy politically hacks; gathering of the worst posters on this bored. Die off already. Why? Does your mommy work at NYT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted February 18, 2014 So, you don't watch cable news...................yet know everything about anyone who does? What a dumbass. You should take note in this thread, Jerry is actually having a discussion, that's how you discuss politics, if you want to discuss it. Not with gay emoticons 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted February 18, 2014 update ? I'd assume the losers who planned on boycotting Fox are still boycotting Fox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted February 18, 2014 How was Jose's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 71 Posted February 18, 2014 Just about every news media source has at least a left lean - why must the left get so out of sorts becasue the Right has 1. Is Fox a strong right lean - of course they are. If you hate them that much then don't put the channel on or click the web site. grow the fock up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,974 Posted February 18, 2014 Just about every news media source has at least a left lean - why must the left get so out of sorts becasue the Right has 1. Is Fox a strong right lean - of course they are. If you hate them that much then don't put the channel on or click the web site. grow the fock upLibs here like to equate Fox to MSNBC and believe that the CNNs and NYTs of the world are impartial. It's a simplistic view. They can't process the reality that their sources are left-biased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted February 18, 2014 Libs here like to equate Fox to MSNBC and believe that the CNNs and NYTs of the world are impartial. It's a simplistic view. They can't process the reality that their sources are left-biased. It's a matter of degree, silly. Fox and MSNBC are heavily and overtly biased in the way that journalism simply should not be. New York Times, CNN, Wall Street Journal, etc. have some subtle inherent biases (NY Times because reporters are liberal, Wall Street Journal because businessmen are conservative), but they at least attempt some modicum of impartiality. It's apples and oranges jerry, and you know it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 18, 2014 . It's apples and oranges jerry, and you know it.no it's one apple and a bunch of oranges, some more rotten then others but all oranges. And that kills you guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,974 Posted February 18, 2014 It's a matter of degree, stupid. Fox and MSNBC are heavily and overtly biased in the way that journalism simply should not be. New York Times, CNN, Wall Street Journal, etc. have some subtle inherent biases (NY Times because reporters are liberal, Wall Street Journal because businessmen are conservative), but they at least attempt some modicum of impartiality. It's apples and oranges jerry, and you know it.No they're not, dummy. Fox News articles are no more biased than CNN, you just equate Fox with Hannity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites