Boycott Fox News

[IGotWorms 4,058]

No they're not, dummy. Fox News articles are no more biased than CNN, you just equate Fox with Hannity.

I deleted "stupid" as I felt it did not strike the proper tone.

 

Look jerry, I know you know I'm right here. You want to cling to the idea that Fox News is simply a rational counter-balance to the general perceived liberal bias in the media but fact is it's a whole different animal. As are those that have now tried to copy Fox News on the left (e.g. MSNBC).

[Sho Nuff 720]

Just about every news media source has at least a left lean - why must the left get so out of sorts becasue the Right has 1. Is Fox a strong right lean - of course they are. If you hate them that much then don't put the channel on or click the web site. grow the fock up

 

I don't think the left is going all out of sorts over this.

I don't really boycott fox...I don't particularly watch them or read their site...same with CNN (other than if its a front page article when I open my browswer or a hit when I do a search) or MSNBC.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Libs here like to equate Fox to MSNBC and believe that the CNNs and NYTs of the world are impartial. It's a simplistic view. They can't process the reality that their sources are left-biased.

 

Most reasonable people would equate Fox to MSNBC. They both have shown many times over that they are more biased than other sources (like CNN).

Its not to say that CNN won't have some bias...but nearly every survey/study out there would show Fox and MSNBC to be more outliers when it comes to the major media outlets as far as extreme bias.

[jerryskids 6,825]

I deleted "stupid" as I felt it did not strike the proper tone.

 

Look jerry, I know you know I'm right here. You want to cling to the idea that Fox News is simply a rational counter-balance to the general perceived liberal bias in the media but fact is it's a whole different animal. As are those that have now tried to copy Fox News on the left (e.g. MSNBC).

Really, I don't. Like I said that Fox/MSNBC comparison is a simplistic view for people to feel good about other sources.

 

Not to defend phurfer but... lots of times he posts a Fox article, folks here say "AAARRRGGHHHH Fox$#@!", he says "show where it is inaccurate," and... crickets. The bias from most sites is not overt; it comes from the stories they choose to run, the people they choose to interview, etc.

[SUXBNME 1,512]

 

Most reasonable people would equate Fox to MSNBC.

You obviously have never met a reasonable person.

Fox slanted to the right? Of course.

 

But the one thing that Fox does that MSNBC doesn't do is bring in heavy hitters from the other side to debate the topic at hand. MSNBC doesn't seem to do that at all.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Al Jazeera America

[SUXBNME 1,512]

msnbc on the UAW failed attempt with VW

 

 

Fox on the same subject

 

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/02/18/shameful-left-blames-failed-uaw-union-vote-racism

[Reality 3,121]

Really, I don't. Like I said that Fox/MSNBC comparison is a simplistic view for people to feel good about other sources.

 

Yup, it's a view of the extremely uninformed. It's people who admit they don't even watch the network yet somehow rationalize their opinion by saying the two networks are the same.

 

[Sho Nuff 720]

Really, I don't. Like I said that Fox/MSNBC comparison is a simplistic view for people to feel good about other sources.

 

Not to defend phurfer but... lots of times he posts a Fox article, folks here say "AAARRRGGHHHH Fox$#@!", he says "show where it is inaccurate," and... crickets. The bias from most sites is not overt; it comes from the stories they choose to run, the people they choose to interview, etc.

 

The point is most are mocking the "Libertarian" for using such a completely biased source all the time.

Its not that each piece is inaccurate. Its that he does little more than peruse FoxNews daily to post about 5 threads about what he found there.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Yup, it's a view of the extremely uninformed. It's people who admit they don't even watch the network yet somehow rationalize their opinion by saying the two networks are the same.

 

 

Except that study after study after poll after poll is showing those two are the most biased sources of the major players.

MSNBC more so than Fox...Im not sure why you all are complaining so much or defending Fox so much here. Its obvious to anyone that they have a strong bias. Are you all really trying to deny that?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

 

Except that study after study after poll after poll is showing those two are the most biased sources of the major players.

MSNBC more so than Fox...Im not sure why you all are complaining so much or defending Fox so much here. Its obvious to anyone that they have a strong bias. Are you all really trying to deny that?

I had no idea they were still so strongly attached to Fox News--I thought everyone accepted that it was blatantly biased and misleading for the most part. But guys in this thread are acting like we're criticizing their children or something

[NewbieJr 541]

I had no idea they were still so strongly attached to Fox News--I thought everyone accepted that it was blatantly biased and misleading for the most part. But guys in this thread are acting like we're criticizing their children or something

That's because, in their convoluted minds, they need to believe that Fox is giving them the real story. It's truly a cult, complete with the brainwashing.

[FlaHawker 24]

That's because, in their convoluted minds, they need to believe that Fox is giving them the real story. It's truly a cult, complete with the brainwashing.

To the Fox haters:

 

Where do you all get the "real" story?

[TD Ryan2 316]

It's a matter of degree, silly. Fox and MSNBC are heavily and overtly biased in the way that journalism simply should not be. New York Times, CNN, Wall Street Journal, etc. have some subtle inherent biases (NY Times because reporters are liberal, Wall Street Journal because businessmen are conservative), but they at least attempt some modicum of impartiality. It's apples and oranges jerry, and you know it.

I don't care enough to really analyze it - but this is my perception as well.

FOX and MSNBC are the two that are furthest away from center - I typically see the worst of both sides on these networks.

[KSB2424 3,148]

It's been mentioned already but the reason Fox News gets the right leaning perception is due to its Editorial Shows, not its news. Hannity, O'Rielly, Greta Van, and that Fox and Friends show. Those all have a right lean no doubt about it. However those are Editorials, those are opinion based shows. Similar to the editorial page in an newspaper with the Op-Ed's.

 

The actual, factual desk news and items on there are very balanced.

 

I think folks have a hard time differentiating between the editorial page and the news page.

[jerryskids 6,825]

It's been mentioned already but the reason Fox News gets the right leaning perception is due to its Editorial Shows, not its news. Hannity, O'Rielly, Greta Van, and that Fox and Friends show. Those all have a right lean no doubt about it. However those are Editorials, those are opinion based shows. Similar to the editorial page in an newspaper with the Op-Ed's.

 

The actual, factual desk news and items on there are very balanced.

 

I think folks have a hard time differentiating between the editorial page and the news page.

You're wasting your breath. Or finger muscles. I've tried to point this out several times to no avail.

[drobeski 3,061]

they go where those carrying Obama's water won't, and the left hates that. It's pretty simple, really.

 

 

phurph always requests it , but I have yet to see any of his links proven wrong.

[NewbieJr 541]

they go where those carrying Obama's water won't, and the left hates that. It's pretty simple, really.

 

 

phurph always requests it , but I have yet to see any of his links proven wrong.

It's not necessarily that their links are wrong. It's that they don't report any positive stories regarding Democrats. If so, they do it with a skeptical tone. Go on Foxnews.com and show me all the good stories. When the other channels were all reporting about the pregnant woman who fainted behind Obama and he turned and stopped her from falling, what was Fox News' angle? (I don't know, I'm asking) I saw that story ten times from ten different media outlets. It was a feel good story. Like Obama or hate him. I'll bet that either Fox never mentioned it, or they did it and accused the administration of setting the whole thing up. THAT is the fair and balanced Fox News.

[Sho Nuff 720]

It's been mentioned already but the reason Fox News gets the right leaning perception is due to its Editorial Shows, not its news. Hannity, O'Rielly, Greta Van, and that Fox and Friends show. Those all have a right lean no doubt about it. However those are Editorials, those are opinion based shows. Similar to the editorial page in an newspaper with the Op-Ed's.

 

The actual, factual desk news and items on there are very balanced.

 

I think folks have a hard time differentiating between the editorial page and the news page.

 

Its part of it...but not all.

Even some of their other stories show bias. It happens, its ok to actually admit it.

But conservative seem to have a hard time admitting their main source of news is slanted towards what they want to hear.

Why is that?

[Brad GLuckman 519]

I had no idea they were still so strongly attached to Fox News--I thought everyone accepted that it was blatantly biased and misleading for the most part. But guys in this thread are acting like we're criticizing their children or something

 

Fox is insanely biased, I won't dispute that. But the obsession the left has with Foxnews is disturbing.

 

Maybe its not so bad to have a biased news source to balance out the fact that the rest of the media is more than willing to give this administration a pass on any and everything.

 

I don't like the idea of a President, Republican or Democrat, going completely unchallenged by the media.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

Its part of it...but not all.

Even some of their other stories show bias. It happens, its ok to actually admit it.

But conservative seem to have a hard time admitting their main source of news is slanted towards what they want to hear.

Why is that?

Same reason morons like RP and Drobeski have to continually tell each other they're winning threads. They see things only thru the eyes of rightie political hacks and need to reaffirm each other that their opinion is the only one that counts. Exact same reason they hate admitting that their only source of news is just tailor made to tell them what they want to hear. If a Fox News reporter ever said that Obama made a great decision or did an excellent job handling a situation, their viewers would hate his guts and petition for him to be fired.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,447]

Nobody has answered my question so I'll ask again? Why was Fox News created?

 

The CNBC comparison is a lame attempt to discredit a legitimate NEWS station that people on the left don't like.Just because they question and report stories the left doesn't want them to they are subject to partisan criticism.

 

When the Boston Bombings news storu broke, did Fox have a republican bias? They said this looks like the work of muslim terrorists. CNBC didn't call them muslim terrorists for weeks. Whos bias in that reporting? One was right and the was to chicken sh!t to state the obvious. Most of the other MSM called them muslim terrorists also.

[NewbieJr 541]

Nobody has answered my question so I'll ask again? Why was Fox News created?

 

The CNBC comparison is a lame attempt to discredit a legitimate NEWS station that people on the left don't like.Just because they question and report stories the left doesn't want them to they are subject to partisan criticism.

 

When the Boston Bombings news storu broke, did Fox have a republican bias? They said this looks like the work of muslim terrorists. CNBC didn't call them muslim terrorists for weeks. Whos bias in that reporting? One was right and the was to chicken sh!t to state the obvious. Most of the other MSM called them muslim terrorists also.

LOL. Wow. Great example. They got one right.

 

As for why it was created, someone saw an opportunity to give the conservatives what they wanted- a pep rally where everyone tells them exactly what they want to hear. And they made millions. They were right. You guys eat it up.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,447]

LOL. Wow. Great example. They got one right.

 

As for why it was created, someone saw an opportunity to give the conservatives what they wanted- a pep rally where everyone tells them exactly what they want to hear. And they made millions. They were right. You guys eat it up.

 

It's actually one of many. please keep up. Were talking about the news department at Fox News. Not the talking head shows at Foz. But you wouldn't know since you watch neither station and have someone else tell you what your opions should be.

 

Fox was created because the MSM was partisan. Guess which way they leaned Newbie?

[drobeski 3,061]

It's not necessarily that their links are wrong. It's that they don't report any positive stories regarding Democrats. If so, they do it with a skeptical tone. Go on Foxnews.com and show me all the good stories. When the other channels were all reporting about the pregnant woman who fainted behind Obama and he turned and stopped her from falling, what was Fox News' angle? (I don't know, I'm asking) I saw that story ten times from ten different media outlets. It was a feel good story. Like Obama or hate him. I'll bet that either Fox never mentioned it, or they did it and accused the administration of setting the whole thing up. THAT is the fair and balanced Fox News.

your entire opinion on fox is formed how ? Speculation ?

None of you watch it, so how are your opinions formed ? Maybe from those unbiased sources you rely on ?

 

talk about sheep, holy jeebus, you're all pathetic.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

It's actually one of many. please keep up. Were talking about the news department at Fox News. Not the talking head shows at Foz. But you wouldn't know since you watch neither station and have someone else tell you what your opions should be.

 

Fox was created because the MSM was partisan. Guess which way they leaned Newbie?

Fox was created for the same reason MSNBC was created. hth You're barking up the wrong tree with that media bias bullsh!t. That's because you Fox morons are so used to hearing everything with a far-right twist, that any reasonable, fair reporting seems left to you.

 

I'm sure a person who watched nothing but MSNBC, would think that CNN was a conservative channel if they started watching it.

[drobeski 3,061]

Fox was created for the same reason MSNBC was created. hth You're barking up the wrong tree with that media bias bullsh!t. That's because you Fox morons are so used to hearing everything with a far-right twist, that any reasonable, fair reporting seems left to you.

 

I'm sure a person who watched nothing but MSNBC, would think that CNN was a conservative channel if they started watching it.

no they wouldn't

[TD Ryan2 316]

YOU ARE!

NO, YOU ARE!

NUH AHHH, YOU ARE!

 

Fox News is Rupert Murdoch's creation. It serves Rupert Murdoch and his interests

MSNBC was created by Microsoft and General Electric, it serves their interests which are admittedly "progressive".

All news agencies have a founder/creator/owner that drives it towards the bias of the founder/creator/owner.

 

This is not new.

This is not debatable.

So please, stop arguing over it.

[NewbieJr 541]

YOU ARE!

NO, YOU ARE!

NUH AHHH, YOU ARE!

 

Fox News is Rupert Murdoch's creation. It serves Rupert Murdoch and his interests

MSNBC was created by Microsoft and General Electric, it serves their interests which are admittedly "progressive".

All news agencies have a founder/creator/owner that drives it towards the bias of the founder/creator/owner.

 

This is not new.

This is not debatable.

So please, stop arguing over it.

Ding ding ding ding ding Winner winner, chicken dinner

[BunnysBastatrds 2,447]

Fox was created for the same reason MSNBC was created. hth You're barking up the wrong tree with that media bias bullsh!t. That's because you Fox morons are so used to hearing everything with a far-right twist, that any reasonable, fair reporting seems left to you.

 

I'm sure a person who watched nothing but MSNBC, would think that CNN was a conservative channel if they started watching it.

 

 

I actually watch these stations that you admititdly do not. I form my opinions based on what I see and read. Not somebody else telling me what they think. You've got poosay on the brain 24/7. You should devote a little time to the news. You might learn something.

 

Up until Obama got elected, I was a news junkie. I watched all the stations, read all the books, listened to the talking heads on radio and TV. I was one of those. I had paid attention to the Clinton and Bush years. To much attention. After the Obama election I realized that I was wasting my time and energy with politics. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. I have one vote. I did learn a lot about the way the political machine works in the media. To say there is no media bias is like saying Hitler loved the Jews. Denying it makes you look really fawking stoopid.

[TD Ryan2 316]

here's the problem with it all...

 

FOX and MSNBC are what we will get more of - they cater to their base, evoke emotion, and gain loyalty. News channels that try to stay unbalanced will eventually lose the ratings war simply because they don't connect so viscerally with their audience and therefore don't breed any loyalty. Viewers of CNN don't love or defend CNN the way viewers of FOX or MSNBC do.

Cater to the top of the bell curve and you die today. No product is for everyone and if you try to make if for everyone, you will fail - there is simply too much choice today.

 

It all started with Amazon's and Facebook's concepts of "like" and "if you like THIS, you'll like THAT". The object of providing content is to provide you with content you LIKE so that you will consume more of it. Modern marketing allows content creators to profile you and deliver exactly/only what you want. And this can become problematic because the content providers no longer deliver the best product/solution/answer to your query, they simply provide what they THINK you want based on past preferences in the hopes that you will consume more.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

I actually watch these stations that you admititdly do not. I form my opinions based on what I see and read. Not somebody else telling me what they think. You've got poosay on the brain 24/7. You should devote a little time to the news. You might learn something.

 

Up until Obama got elected, I was a news junkie. I watched all the stations, read all the books, listened to the talking heads on radio and TV. I was one of those. I had paid attention to the Clinton and Bush years. To much attention. After the Obama election I realized that I was wasting my time and energy with politics. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. I have one vote. I did learn a lot about the way the political machine works in the media. To say there is no media bias is like saying Hitler loved the Jews. Denying it makes you look really fawking stoopid.

Not as stupid as pretending Fox News isn't slanted right in a HUGE way.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,447]

Not as stupid as pretending Fox News isn't slanted right in a HUGE way.

 

 

I never once said they don't slant to the right.

 

The irony in all this is you say that the MSM isn't biased but Fox News is. It's nothing more than a defensive reaction.

[NewbieJr 541]

here's the problem with it all...

 

FOX and MSNBC are what we will get more of - they cater to their base, evoke emotion, and gain loyalty. News channels that try to stay unbalanced will eventually lose the ratings war simply because they don't connect so viscerally with their audience and therefore don't breed any loyalty. Viewers of CNN don't love or defend CNN the way viewers of FOX or MSNBC do.

Cater to the top of the bell curve and you die today. No product is for everyone and if you try to make if for everyone, you will fail - there is simply too much choice today.

 

It all started with Amazon's and Facebook's concepts of "like" and "if you like THIS, you'll like THAT". The object of providing content is to provide you with content you LIKE so that you will consume more of it. Modern marketing allows content creators to profile you and deliver exactly/only what you want. And this can become problematic because the content providers no longer deliver the best product/solution/answer to your query, they simply provide what they THINK you want based on past preferences in the hopes that you will consume more.

Exactly. Fox News knows where its bread is buttered. It's watched by conservatives. It also knows the best way to make those conservatives (also known as its audience) happy is to give them all the juicy Obama-sucks stories and op ed pieces. Same with MSNBC. If they suddenly start slamming Obama, there audience will go elsewhere. They're not watching to hear that.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

I never once said they don't slant to the right.

 

The irony in all this is you say that the MSM isn't biased but Fox News is. It's nothing more than a defensive reaction.

We're saying that ONE channel is slanted. You're claiming that all of them are. Except yours.

Stop making an ass out of yourself and trying to pretend Fox is something it's not. It's ok to admit that it's a conservative channel that you enjoy watching because you're a conservative. See? No one laughs at that. It makes sense. But trying to pass it off as fair and balanced makes you sound clueless. Being brainwashed isn't as embarrassing if you admit that you realize it's being done to you.

[TD Ryan2 316]

We're saying that ONE channel is slanted.

Newbie - I'm saying they are all slanted.

The majority are left leaning.

MSNBC is falling off the cliff to the left.

FOX new is right leaning.

FOX op-ed is falling off the cliff to the right.

[wiffleball 4,790]

This thread reminds me of when I was a lad.

 

Father McNulty had a "boy cot" in the room behind the altar.

 

Only the very best Altar Boys got to go in that room.

 

He said I was the very best of them all.

 

Good times.

 

There should be more boycots.

[NewbieJr 541]

Newbie - I'm saying they are all slanted.

The majority are left leaning.

MSNBC is falling off the cliff to the left.

FOX new is right leaning.

FOX op-ed is falling off the cliff to the right.

Amazing. Not one single channel trying to do it right in the entire country. lol

[TD Ryan2 316]

Amazing. Not one single channel trying to do it right in the entire country. lol

as I said, every news outlet has a leadership and that leadership drives its bias.

 

But even more importantly, every new outlet must make money and those that haven't had the b@lls to go FOX or MSN will lose the ratings/revenue war.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,447]

We're saying that ONE channel is slanted. You're claiming that all of them are. Except yours.

Stop making an ass out of yourself and trying to pretend Fox is something it's not. It's ok to admit that it's a conservative channel that you enjoy watching because you're a conservative. See? No one laughs at that. It makes sense. But trying to pass it off as fair and balanced makes you sound clueless. Being brainwashed isn't as embarrassing if you admit that you realize it's being done to you.

 

 

Where did I say Fox News wasn't slanted? I stated that they all were. Some more than others. Why do you think I asked the question of why Fox News was created? And please remember, were talking about the NEWS, Stop thinking about poosay for one minute and pay attention please.