IRS "loses" 2 years of Lois Lerner emails. How convenient.

[drobeski 3,061]

Ok, simple yes or no question for the irsers, mikey oldhag and crackster, do you think the emails were intentionally destroyed ?

 

 

Yes or no ?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Ok, simple yes or no question for the irsers, mikey oldhag and crackster, do you think the emails were intentionally destroyed ?

 

 

Yes or no ?

 

Simple question to you...will you admit you were full of it if no evidence every comes out linking it to Obama?

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Simple question to you...will you admit you were full of it if no evidence every comes out linking it to Obama?

no i will not ...yes or no sniffles ?

[Sho Nuff 720]

no i will not ...yes or no sniffles ?

 

Of course you won't.

Yes, I think the IRS purposefully got rid of emails to hide the crap they were doing.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

no i will not ...yes or no sniffles ?

 

Drob...please call everyone parrots and sheep again, I like the irony.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Drob...please call everyone parrots and sheep again, I like the irony.

yes or no ?

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

yes or no ?

 

Since there is currently no evidenc to support that they were intentionally destroyed, I have to say no. If real proof comes along, then I reserve the right to change my mind.

 

Now, while you're at, tell all about how you believe in big foot and unicorns.

[crackattack 520]

Ok, simple yes or no question for the irsers, mikey oldhag and crackster, do you think the emails were intentionally destroyed ?

 

 

Yes or no ?

As of now....maybe, but I'm proof kinda guy. Innocent until guilty thingy. I don't know if they did. Prove it, and I'll believe it. Not just maybes and possibilities.

[drobeski 3,061]

Wow

[Reality 3,121]

 

Since there is currently no evidenc to support that they were intentionally destroyed, I have to say no. If real proof comes along, then I reserve the right to change my mind.

 

Now, while you're at, tell all about how you believe in big foot and unicorns.

 

 

As of now....maybe, but I'm proof kinda guy. Innocent until guilty thingy. I don't know if they did. Prove it, and I'll believe it. Not just maybes and possibilities.

 

 

Yes, I think the IRS purposefully got rid of emails to hide the crap they were doing.

 

 

Rut-Roh.......

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Did Sho Nuff just venture off the reservation?

 

LOL--it's a foreign concept for Goog that people can think for themselves. Now, get back in the pen with the rest of the sheep.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Mike, I didn't quote you to give you the chance to delete that post. Wow!

 

The guy buying the IRS BS hook, line, and sinker calling someone else a sheep!

 

Hey Ba Ba Black Sheep...tells us all about Sonasoft again and how they had a contract to archive all the IRS emails. One of your best examples of what a non-thinking, regurgitate the right wing-group think-sheeple you are. Here, let my friend help you find your way back home.

 

[Googballz 39]

 

Hey Ba Ba Black Sheep...tells us all about Sonasoft again and how they had a contract to archive all the IRS emails.

 

I never said they had a contract to archive all the IRS emails, Sport.

 

 

I have already said I don't know how much space it would take, so I don't know if $14K would do it.

 

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

LOL--it's a foreign concept for Goog that people can think for themselves. Now, get back in the pen with the rest of the sheep.

 

Oh no, I didn't tow a party line to a party that I don't belong to and gave in to the probability of corrupt government workers.

[DankNuggs 305]

To be completely convinced that destroyed emails 10 days after the initial inquisition was 'accidental' means you are violently partisan and your opinion means nothing

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

To be completely convinced that destroyed emails 10 days after the initial inquisition was 'accidental' means you are violently partisan and your opinion means nothing

 

To be convinced that the initial inquisition was 10 days before the hard drive crashed means you watch too much Fox news and you opinion means nothing.

 

Recall that the issue involving Lois Lerner was the targeting of conservative advocacy groups applying for 501©(4) status. But this letter concerned something different — the IRS’s decision to send letters to the donors of such organizations that their contributions might be subject to gift taxes. This issue had first emerged in early May of 2011, when Ofer Lion, a tax adviser, sent a notice to clients about the issue.

 

The timing may seem suspicious, and perhaps Roskam has every right to jump to conclusions. But in claiming that Camp “sent a letter on this whole issue,” he went too far in describing the contents of the letter. In fact, at least one person, Chris Wallace, was misled into thinking the letter concerned the applicants; there were probably many other listeners as well. We wavered between Two and Three Pinocchios on this. We can appreciate the argument that this was an important letter, but the causal connection to Lerner’s hard drive appears far too tenuous for Roskam to make such claims, given that the letter does not mention conservative groups.

 

 

The letter that supposedly led to the crash of Lois Lerner’s hard drive

 

June 3, 2011 | GOP letter questions IRS about gift tax

House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.) issues a letter to the IRS questioning the agency’s decision to inform donors of nonprofit advocacy groups that their contributions might be subject to gift taxes. The letter does not mention targeting of conservative groups for extra scrutiny.

 

June 23, 2011 | Lerner hard-drive crash

Lerner’s hard drive crashes, causing her to lose e-mail files from 2009 through 2011.

Some Republicans have suggested that Lerner may have wiped out her e-mails because of Camp’s June 3, 2012 letter to the IRS. Fact Checker columnist Glenn Kessler awarded Three Pinocchios to that idea, noting that the letter dealt with gift taxes, not the targeting issue.

 

July 2011 | Lerner changes targeting criteria

Lerner in July 2011 discovers the use of inappropriate search terms that focus on group’s policy positions instead of their activities, according to an inspector general’s report. At that point, she orders her division to use more-generic screening criteria: “organizations involved with political, lobbying, or advocacy for exemption under 501©(3) or 501©(4).”

Her division eventually reverts back to using inappropriate methods.

 

 

Controversy within a controversy: A timeline of IRS’s missing e-mails

[Reality 3,121]

To be completely convinced that destroyed emails 10 days after the initial inquisition was 'accidental' means you are violently partisan and your opinion means nothing

This, obvious to people in the real world. Geek club hacks, not so much.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

This, obvious to people in the real world. Geek club hacks, not so much.

 

Wow...you post that after a timeline(based on the Treasury Inspector General Report and the email) of the events is posted proving that's not what happened. You get a lifetime membership in the hack club for that statement.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Who is all in, Sport. I said it was a coincidence. A happy coincidence the company who has been advertising that they back up IRS servers for years gets their contract stopped 2 weeks after Lerner's emails were requested by Congress.......and just before her computer crashed.

 

Has to be a coincidence. Move along, nothing to see here.

 

Banner on their home page: "Email Archiving Done Right"

 

WAG that they archived emails for the IRS.

 

 

Confronted with what fact?

 

They are an email archiving firm. Unless you have something that shows their contract was for something else you got nothing. Keep buying the IRS story, Mike.

 

This is fun to watch.

 

 

 

I never said they had a contract to archive all the IRS emails, Sport.

 

 

 

No, you never said they had a contract to archive all the IRS emails, but you believed that the contract not getting renewed had something to do with Lerner. But you're not a sheep at all!!!!

[Mungwater 597]

Could it be that they fired the firm after they realized their service didnt work?

[Sho Nuff 720]

To be completely convinced that destroyed emails 10 days after the initial inquisition was 'accidental' means you are violently partisan and your opinion means nothing

 

None of the posters said they are completely convinced.

They have just said absent of any evidence, they will continue to believe the known facts over speculation.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Could it be that they fired the firm after they realized their service didnt work?

This whole thing became a right wing deal when someone uncovered a tweet by Sonasoft years ago about how they worked with the IRS. Then right-wing bloggers and The Blaze added it to the "conspiracy" and Goog bought it hook line and sinker. There wasn't a problem with Sonasoft or their service, here's their press release about the events(Chief Counsel to the IRS says they didn't renew the contract after they switched to Outlook 2010).

 

“In regards to the IRS as one of Sonasoft’s customers, it is true that one Division within the IRS was Sonasoft’s customer from 2005 to 2011,” clarified Andy Khanna. “This Division was the IRS Counsel. The main branch of the IRS did not use Sonasoft’s software for its operations; only the IRS Counsel used our SonaExchange software, which is a Microsoft Exchange Server replication solution. This particular software allowed the IRS Counsel to replicate the email data by copying it to a remote server for disaster recovery and business continuity as a failover copy to take over if the main system failed. In the event that a client’s Microsoft Exchange Server went down, then end users could access the replicated data on the Microsoft Exchange Server quickly and efficiently. The IRS Counsel Division stopped using Sonasoft’s replication software in 2011.”

 

“To further clarify, no Division within IRS ever used Sonasoft’s email archiving software. Only a Division within the IRS used any Sonasoft product and that was our email replication software, not our archiving or backup software. ”, said Andy Khanna.

 

 

Sonasoft Clarifies Its Position Regarding IRS and Sonasoft’s Email Archiving Products

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

 

 

 

No, you never said they had a contract to archive all the IRS emails, but you believed that the contract not getting renewed had something to do with Lerner. But you're not a sheep at all!!!!

 

Get ready for Semantics Pilot to go full tilt crazy on this one.

[Sho Nuff 720]

This whole thing became a right wing deal when someone uncovered a tweet by Sonasoft years ago about how they worked with the IRS. Then right-wing bloggers and The Blaze added it to the "conspiracy" and Goog bought it hook line and sinker. There wasn't a problem with Sonasoft or their service, here's their press release about the events(Chief Counsel to the IRS says they didn't renew the contract after they switched to Outlook 2010).

 

Sonasoft Clarifies Its Position Regarding IRS and Sonasoft’s Email Archiving Products

 

This will be largely ignored as well.

[MDC 7,486]

Mike Honcho cleaning up in this thread ... somebody throw in the towel, Googleballz is taking a beating.

[Googballz 39]

 

Hey Ba Ba Black Sheep...tells us all about Sonasoft again and how they had a contract to archive all the IRS emails.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, you never said they had a contract to archive all the IRS emails,

 

 

Make up your mind, Honcho. You are all over the place here.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

 

 

 

 

Make up your mind, Honcho. You are all over the place here.

 

Nice deflection...you never said directly, you totally implied it, but you never said the exact words. It still doesn't change the fact that you are a giant Sheeple! Isn't it time for you to get your marching orders from some right-wing blog.

 

 

Get ready for Semantics Pilot to go full tilt crazy on this one.

 

His response was pretty predictable.

[Reality 3,121]

 

Wow...you post that after a timeline(based on the Treasury Inspector General Report and the email) of the events is posted proving that's not what happened. You get a lifetime membership in the hack club for that statement.

[Reality 3,121]

Mike Honcho cleaning up in this thread ... somebody throw in the towel, Googleballz is taking a beating.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

 

It's good to see someone so proud of their own ignorance.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Semantics.

 

You're right, your answer was semantics, nice to see you own up to it for once.

[MDC 7,486]

Semantics.

180 yet????

[Reality 3,121]

 

It's good to see someone so proud of their own ignorance.

Dude, we get it, there is no story you won't buy as long as it agrees with your politics.

 

Keep fighting the fight..... Every second of the day.....

[crackattack 520]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rut-Roh.......

Why am I getting the eye's? I will gladly say good job and want the appropriate punishment if they find evidence of wrong doing. I'm just waiting for them to actually be able to handout indictments before I join the lynch mob.....you know actual, factual evidence of wrong doing, not possible coincidences.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Is Google Pilot busting out his other aliases so it looks like people are backing him? Classic.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Dude, we get it, there is no story you won't buy as long as it agrees with your politics.

 

Keep fighting the fight..... Every second of the day.....

 

No, what everyone gets is you can't even acknowledge you're wrong The email was for a completely different issue, not at all related to what was happening in Cincinnati, yet you are incapable of acknowledging that fact...even with a link to the email.

 

It has nothing to do with my politics, it has to do with the evidence...you have none that supports your position.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Dude, we get it, there is no story you won't buy as long as it agrees with your politics.

 

Keep fighting the fight..... Every second of the day.....

 

Ahh...you mean like the story of archiving by a company that all your righty hacks bought...or about when emails were "lost/deleted"...yet he just proved you all wrong?

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

To be completely convinced that destroyed emails 10 days after the initial inquisition was 'accidental' means you are violently partisan and your opinion means nothing

 

 

This, obvious to people in the real world. Geek club hacks, not so much.

 

 

Dude, we get it, there is no story you won't buy as long as it agrees with your politics.

 

Keep fighting the fight..... Every second of the day.....

 

 

This should be a slam dunk...link the initial inquisition into the Cincy Targeting.

[Reality 3,121]

 

 

 

 

This should be a slam dunk...link the initial inquisition into the Cincy Targeting.

Like I said, you choose to buy the story that this is all just a coincidence. Obviously because of your politics.

 

Good for you. You are a member of a very small minority regarding this scandal.

[SUXBNME 1,515]

Is Google Pilot busting out his other aliases so it looks like people are backing him? Classic.

Not all of them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yet.