murf74 461 Posted October 21, 2014 Don't feel bad this AM, I mean it was called TD on the field and it had to be obvious for them to overturn it, well here is your obvious photo evidence http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/42359972/ABTweet.0.0_standard_709.0.png Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,591 Posted October 21, 2014 It's amazing how 32 referees, there would have been 16 that left it a TD and 16 that overturned it. How about some focking consistency???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Muffin Man 6 Posted October 21, 2014 How many extra yards would it have given him? I probably won because of that and would like to send photo to my opponent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,591 Posted October 21, 2014 How many extra yards would it have given him? I probably won because of that and would like to send photo to my opponent. Only like 10, he caught a pass in that same drive after the screwjob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted October 21, 2014 I thought he was in at the time, this proves it. Outrageous, horrible call. The Ref was right on top of it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 1,838 Posted October 21, 2014 :mad: I hope the refs get teh Ebola. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 21, 2014 I won anyway, but it was obvious to me that they screwed up the call. WTF is the point of instant replay if the orangutans are too stupid to get it right with all of technology at their beck and call? Steve Young said it correctly: they showed a still picture of the foot divot as though it was supposed to support the call that they made. Imbeciles. Young said - correctly - that all the picture showed was that the divot 'flipped over' onto the chalk, plainly proving that AB dug his second foot inbounds for a TD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted October 21, 2014 NFL refs have no idea what "conclusive evidence" means. That theory is backed up by Mike Carey spewing nonsense every time he's brought in for analysis. I'm also flabbergasted that, since the Hochuli fumble botch, every ref in every game still blows a whistle and rules the player down by contact the second the ball comes out rather than letting the play run its course. And 99% of the time they're wrong and would-be defensive TDs are taken away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted October 21, 2014 I donno, that pic may be decieving. look at this video, its midway down the page after the dance. the first angle tells me he came down out of bounds, the second is closer but not at all as clear as the tweet pic, wich is from this same angle. I went frame by frame and there is a part where the pic matches but its hard to tell if your a braindead ref. I wouldnt have overturned it but from that first shot I can def see the argument for it. http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/10/antonio-brown--refs-twitter-botched-call this may be a better vid. https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/02B9ECA7F01136181216937500672_2ca6fbe53a3.5.1.801370578294112959.mp4?versionId=nUHWstbP7ybOiYQKlba62G_0YIEjKmXJ This reminds me of the santonio holmes td from the SB. Theres a pic of his toes touching but he didnt yet have control at that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted October 21, 2014 :raiseshand: down by like 24 in PPR was thinking small chance and then got excited only to have it ripped from me again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuxedosam 4 Posted October 21, 2014 That TD would of gotten me the win this week too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 21, 2014 I donno, that pic may be decieving. look at this video, its midway down the page after the dance. the first angle tells me he came down out of bounds, the second is closer but not at all as clear as the tweet pic, wich is from this same angle. I went frame by frame and there is a part where the pic matches but its hard to tell if your a braindead ref. I wouldnt have overturned it but from that first shot I can def see the argument for it. http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/10/antonio-brown--refs-twitter-botched-call this may be a better vid. https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/02B9ECA7F01136181216937500672_2ca6fbe53a3.5.1.801370578294112959.mp4?versionId=nUHWstbP7ybOiYQKlba62G_0YIEjKmXJ This reminds me of the santonio holmes td from the SB that people have a pic of his toes touching but he didnt yet have control at that point. The fact you can argue both for and against an overturn by it's definition means there is not clear evidence to overturn When ref says play stands it means ther wasn't enough evidence to overturn When ref says play is confirmed it means clear evidence When ref says it's overturned there must be clear and undesputable evidence 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,478 Posted October 21, 2014 Don't feel bad this AM, I mean it was called TD on the field and it had to be obvious for them to overturn it, well here is your obvious photo evidence http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/42359972/ABTweet.0.0_standard_709.0.png Sounds like from what I have seen the call was right . So you can now come down off the roof now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nospk 230 Posted October 21, 2014 I lost by less than half pt after going in down 42.8 and having Ben, Brown & Pitt def in my lineup. The refs cost me a def TD on the fumble that wasnt even called on the field but they stopped the play... I got shafted all night & feel like I had the right lineup to win FOOK ME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 21, 2014 It was the right call, it wasn't a catch... Murf is just pissed because it went against the Steelers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 21, 2014 It was the right call, it wasn't a catch... Murf is just pissed because it went against the Steelers... I disagree. The divot illustrates that it was a catch, as does the still photo. Brown had possession right away; didn't bobble, and dragged his foot deep into the turf, lifting the divot and pushing it over the chalk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 21, 2014 I disagree. The divot illustrates that it was a catch, as does the still photo. Brown had possession right away; didn't bobble, and dragged his foot deep into the turf, lifting the divot and pushing it over the chalk. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you are right... Especially in this case... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 21, 2014 Just because you disagree doesn't mean you are right... Especially in this case... Yes, thanks for your scintillating rebuttal. And how exactly is your sage commentary not equally directed at you? You've made no case at all. We have a still photo showing two AB feet inbound completely. What do you have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 21, 2014 Yes, thanks for your scintillating rebuttal. And how exactly is your sage commentary not equally directed at you? You've made no case at all. We have a still photo showing two AB feet inbound completely. What do you have? I have the call that the officials made overturning the original call from conclusive video evidence... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 21, 2014 I have the call that the officials made overturning the original call from conclusive video evidence... Objection, counselor. That is the premise in question. Citing it as the basis for your argument is circular reasoning, and a non sequitur. Try again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 21, 2014 Objection, counselor. That is the premise in question. Citing it as the basis for your argument is circular reasoning, and a non sequitur. Try again. No need... I thought he was out when I first saw the play and video confirmed it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted October 21, 2014 i won because of it! Cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 21, 2014 No need... I thought he was out when I first saw the play and video confirmed it... No, video didn't confirm it, seeing as many commentators were watching the video while it was under review, and came to the exact opposite conclusion as you do - including me. Beyond that, the picture - posted above - of AB's feet completely inbounds refutes your claim. It doesn't matter where the divot ends. Plenty of WRs drag both of their feet from in to out of bounds on completions, and this one was no different. AB was robbed on that play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 21, 2014 No, video didn't confirm it, seeing as many commentators were watching the video while it was under review, and came to the exact opposite conclusion as you do - including me. Beyond that, the picture - posted above - of AB's feet completely inbounds refutes your claim. It doesn't matter where the divot ends. Plenty of WRs drag both of their feet from in to out of bounds on completions, and this one was no different. AB was robbed on that play. Like I said, you can think what you want, but you are obviously wrong... If that happened during a game I was officiating and two feet were required for a catch, it would have been incomplete just like the video proved... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squintz82 45 Posted October 21, 2014 Like I said, you can think what you want, but you are obviously wrong... If that happened during a game I was officiating and two feet were required for a catch, it would have been incomplete just like the video proved... You're not doing too well with this argument by avoiding any reasoning behind your claim. It's like saying "because I said so". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 21, 2014 Like I said, you can think what you want, but you are obviously wrong...If that happened during a game I was officiating and two feet were required for a catch, it would have been incomplete just like the video proved... Ah. You claim you're an official - that explains your iron-clad logic. Try these videos on for size, which totally refutes your claim and demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that his left foot was in before it dragged out: http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/10/antonio-brown--refs-twitter-botched-call I welcome your continued devastating style of debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 21, 2014 You're not doing too well with this argument by avoiding any reasoning behind your claim. It's like saying "because I said so". That is fine... I also said that wearing the zebra stripes, I would have made the same call that the video confirmed... So in that case, "because I say so" is fine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 21, 2014 Ah. You claim you're an official - that explains your iron-clad logic. Try these videos on for size, which totally refutes your claim and demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that his left foot was in before it dragged out: http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/10/antonio-brown--refs-twitter-botched-call I welcome your continued devastating style of debate. Oh gee, so since Brown tweeted it should be a catch? Okay, sounds good to me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 22, 2014 Oh gee, so since Brown tweeted it should be a catch?Okay, sounds good to me... Gawd help the league of retarded 5 year olds you ref. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 22, 2014 Gawd help the league of retarded 5 year olds you ref. I will say hi to your kid next time I see him licking the water cooler... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaebr29 5 Posted October 22, 2014 Absolutely horrible overturn. If the original call was an incomplete pass, then it would be a stretch to overturn it...but it would be possible based on those still shots. There's no way to overturn a called TD. Unexcusable. And yes it cost me a win. I put up the 2nd most points in the 12 man league (21 more than the 3rd highest scorer) only to find out today that this call cost me a victory. Garbage. #bitterffplayer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 22, 2014 I will say hi to your kid next time I see him licking the water cooler... You're a ref. You can't see shiat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted October 22, 2014 The OPs picture is fake, check out the video. He doesn't have an inch of Green when he plants his foot.....maybe he's grazing along the top blades of grass, but when he plants the toe touches white. OUT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTD 56 Posted October 22, 2014 I should've won on that TD catch but instead went down 7 points or so. Thankfully I had Foster & his final TD gave me a 0.82 win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAA 12 Posted October 22, 2014 How many extra yards would it have given him? I probably won because of that and would like to send photo to my opponent. It would have been a 17 yarder, which would have given me high score for the week. (I still won my head to head match up.) I think he did have another 10 yard catch after the call reversal and after a loss yardage (penalty? sack?). So, to answer your question, it would have given him 7 more yards (in addition to TD points). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 22, 2014 You're a ref. You can't see shiat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cretins 21 Posted October 22, 2014 Not just that, but the delay of game shortly there after screwed me. I have Brown, my opponent has Suisham. The missed TD meant 3 points for him. Then a little later Suisham was lined up from 35 yards out. Pittsburgh takes a delay of game penalty, pushing the kick out to 40 yards. Enough to bump his kick from 3 fantasy points to 4. Final result? I lose by less than one freaking point! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 22, 2014 The OPs picture is fake, check out the video. He doesn't have an inch of Green when he plants his foot.....maybe he's grazing along the top blades of grass, but when he plants the toe touches white. OUT Look at the link I provided. They take a frame from the backside video. It looks in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 460 Posted October 22, 2014 WHAT A TOOL Don't be hard on posty. He's a zebra. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites