drobeski 3,061 Posted November 4, 2014 Ben Stein Names Most Racist President & Its Ex: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,588 Posted November 4, 2014 Who cares. I still want his money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,425 Posted November 4, 2014 Hard to argue with Ben since he doesn't back this claim up in any way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,588 Posted November 4, 2014 Who was the neanderthal talking? Who the fock let that guy on TV? Embarrassing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 191 Posted November 4, 2014 It is amazing that republican voters can't acknowledge that it was republicans that crashed the economy. Republican ideas like de-regulation and trickle down carried out by elected republicans. I thought they were the responsible ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,086 Posted November 4, 2014 Who was the neanderthal talking? Who the fock let that guy on TV? Embarrassing This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 4, 2014 It is amazing that republican voters can't acknowledge that it was republicans that crashed the economy. Republican ideas like de-regulation and trickle down carried out by elected republicans. I thought they were the responsible ones?dumbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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RLLD 4,230 Posted November 4, 2014 It is amazing that republican voters can't acknowledge that it was republicans that crashed the economy. Republican ideas like de-regulation and trickle down carried out by elected republicans. I thought they were the responsible ones? Not entirely accurate, Bill Clinton played an important role; its politicians in general, who succumb to the money of big business, not so much a Dem vs Repub thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 4, 2014 Hard to argue with Ben since he doesn't back this claim up in any way. Something he has in common with the moron attempting to undercut his message. Still waiting for any evidence that any politician is actively working against minorities. Only a focking moron thinks that any politician is doing anything more than trying to get money and votes, the ffort required to subjugate some element of society does not bring profit or votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 4, 2014 Since race has been a factor in exactly zero Presidential elections or administrations prior to this one, it makes the whole discussion pretty insipid and merely fodder for those looking to exploit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted November 4, 2014 Neither 'gets it' or 'racist'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 4, 2014 Something he has in common with the moron attempting to undercut his message. Still waiting for any evidence that any politician is actively working against minorities. Only a focking moron thinks that any politician is doing anything more than trying to get money and votes, the ffort required to subjugate some element of society does not bring profit or votes. stats say otherwise...fact is after years of democrats being their chosen leaders, blacks are worse off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 191 Posted November 5, 2014 Yes Clinton had a part in it. But he was carrying out a republican policy. It wasn't the only time he acted just like a republican. Nafta, don't ask don't tell, lowering cafe standards . He wasn't the liberal he's made out to be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 5, 2014 stats say otherwise...fact is after years of democrats being their chosen leaders, blacks are worse off. Likely true, but are poor whites worse as well? I think this is less about race than it is about the middle and lower middle class being raped due to the influence of big business in how votes are cast. Its less about color, far more about unmitigated greed and the desire of big business to squeeze the life out of the very people that produce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 5, 2014 Yes Clinton had a part in it. But he was carrying out a republican policy. It wasn't the only time he acted just like a republican. Nafta, don't ask don't tell, lowering cafe standards . He wasn't the liberal he's made out to be Not exactly, google the community reinvestment act, that was a clintonian action that had an important role the the later collapse, and greenspan was ruining the economy long before it died during the republican reign. Not saying that republicans do not carry a big burden here, they do, but you should not think that the democrats are without fault....they had an important role in delivering the recession to us. Poor government policy, dating back to the early clinton years, coupled with piss-poor decisions on the part of Greenspan, and augmented by some really terrible stuff during Bush ( banruptcy reform is one glaring example) and you have all the makings of economic disaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 191 Posted November 5, 2014 The community reinvestment act came in to being under Carter. And it wasn't a factor in the collapse, as the motgage a written under the cria performed quite well. It's folly to think the banks got pushed around by the government, seeing as they own it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,425 Posted December 5, 2017 It is amazing that republican voters can't acknowledge that it was republicans that crashed the economy. Republican ideas like de-regulation and trickle down carried out by elected republicans. I thought they were the responsible ones? This guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted December 5, 2017 Remember the speech the bush did where he came right out and said everybody deserves to have a house. His administration pushed really hard on the subprime nonsense. I'm not saying he was the first, but sure as hell was complicit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted December 5, 2017 WTF is the point of necroing threads? Is your life so meaningless that you must in order to feel good? And isn't that poster the guy who claimed was my alias? Bunch of delusional imbecile progs here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beyond Chaos 75 Posted December 5, 2017 WTF is the point of necroing threads? Is your life so meaningless that you must in order to feel good? And isn't that poster the guy who claimed was my alias? Bunch of delusional imbecile progs here. Now you're getting it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted December 5, 2017 Now you're getting it. Oh, I always did. This is nothing more than whack-a-mole with about 5 of them. They can't understand how they're being outed, and then used for target practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 5, 2017 What I am reminded of under all these resurrections, is that the bored really sucked under Obama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 5, 2017 I won this thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,086 Posted December 5, 2017 You're slipping. I just clicked on three joneo links and not one was nasty. Fock! I did it again! :wall: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,425 Posted November 23, 2018 It is amazing that republican voters can't acknowledge that it was republicans that crashed the economy. Republican ideas like de-regulation and trickle down carried out by elected republicans. I thought they were the responsible ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 23, 2018 Not exactly, google the community reinvestment act, that was a clintonian action that had an important role the the later collapse, and greenspan was ruining the economy long before it died during the republican reign. Not saying that republicans do not carry a big burden here, they do, but you should not think that the democrats are without fault....they had an important role in delivering the recession to us. Poor government policy, dating back to the early clinton years, coupled with piss-poor decisions on the part of Greenspan, and augmented by some really terrible stuff during Bush ( banruptcy reform is one glaring example) and you have all the makings of economic disaster. Hey Mag, any additional thoughts on the facts here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,425 Posted November 23, 2018 Hey Mag, any additional thoughts on the facts here? RP is HT now. MB has an IP addy in Texas so he rarely uses that handle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,588 Posted November 23, 2018 The community reinvestment act came in to being under Carter. And it wasn't a factor in the collapse, as the motgage a written under the cria performed quite well. It's folly to think the banks got pushed around by the government, seeing as they own it. Well said RP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 23, 2018 What I am reminded of under all these resurrections, is that the bored really sucked under Obama. Sure, but it sucked under bush and sucks under Trump too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 23, 2018 The community reinvestment act came in to being under Carter. And it wasn't a factor in the collapse, as the motgage a written under the cria performed quite well. It's folly to think the banks got pushed around by the government, seeing as they own it. You are conflating two occurrences. While the act of which you speak DID in fact come into play during Carter one must wonder, why in the world did it take so darn long to crush the economy.....hmmmm, that is a really interesting thing eh? It was under Bill Clinton, who admittedly was only trying to help lower income people, that the problem first arose. https://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/28/are-the-clintons-the-real-housing-crash-villains.html Under Clinton's Housing and Urban Development (HUD) secretary, Andrew Cuomo, Community Reinvestment Act regulators gave banks higher ratings for home loans made in "credit-deprived" areas. it was under Clinton that Greenspan first took the actions that would later lead to disaster, and make no mistake that Bush did not help either.... https://www.businessinsider.com/the-cra-debate-a-users-guide-2009-6 What's more, George W. Bush was a major proponent of the kind of mortgages that banks had started making under the CRA. He urged low-to-no doc mortgages and the elimination of downpayments, just like the CRA regulators had long done. "We certainly don't want there to be a fine print preventing people from owning their home," the President said in a 2002 speech. "We can change the print, and we've got to." Often the truth is more interesting, and considerably more complex, that what CNN tells you to think, or what your political bias needs to be true to feel like you have some higher sense of morality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,103 Posted November 23, 2018 It is amazing that republican voters can't acknowledge that it was republicans that crashed the economy. Republican ideas like de-regulation and trickle down carried out by elected republicans. I thought they were the responsible ones? Jesus. There are idiots out there that actually believe that? Holy f@ck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted November 23, 2018 Jesus. There are idiots out there that actually believe that? Holy f@ck. It was the Bush republicans. If not them, who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,103 Posted November 23, 2018 It was the Bush republicans. If not them, who? uhm...Bill Clinton and the Democrats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted November 23, 2018 uhm...Bill Clinton and the Democrats? They all played a role, but it happened 6-7 years into the bush admin. They own it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted November 24, 2018 It is amazing that republican voters can't acknowledge that it was republicans that crashed the economy. Republican ideas like de-regulation and trickle down carried out by elected republicans. I thought they were the responsible ones? In 2009, Obama bailed out the banks but didn't bail out the regular people or people in debt, using the argument that the effect of bailing out the banks would trickle down to the rest of society. If the democrats believe trickle down doesn't work, then Obama should have forgiven student loans, personal loans for Americans, bailed out other individuals in debt. But he did not. Obama literally used the trickle down theory to fix the economy in 2009. Here's the list. $200 billion in trickle down money to bail out the banks from the democrats and Obama. https://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysupplement/bankbailout/ The vote on the bill for trickle down was 263-171, with republicans blocking the trickle down and getting ripped in the press for doing it. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26987291/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/bush-signs-billion-financial-bailout-bill/ House leaders said the difference was lawmakers’ work to shift the focus from the bailout of financial companies to the boost it would give homeowners, small businesses and individual investors. That's a direct quote from DEMOCRATS, arguing that bailing out financial companies will TRICKLE DOWN to homeowners, small busineses, and individual investors. If you are against trickle-down, you go DIRECTLY to homeowners, small business, and individual investors and bail them out. That was not done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted November 24, 2018 In 2009, Obama bailed out the banks but didn't bail out the regular people or people in debt, using the argument that the effect of bailing out the banks would trickle down to the rest of society. If the democrats believe trickle down doesn't work, then Obama should have forgiven student loans, personal loans for Americans, bailed out other individuals in debt. But he did not. Obama literally used the trickle down theory to fix the economy in 2009. Here's the list. $200 billion in trickle down money to bail out the banks from the democrats and Obama. https://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysupplement/bankbailout/ The vote on the bill for trickle down was 263-171, with republicans blocking the trickle down and getting ripped in the press for doing it. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26987291/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/bush-signs-billion-financial-bailout-bill/ That's a direct quote from DEMOCRATS, arguing that bailing out financial companies will TRICKLE DOWN to homeowners, small busineses, and individual investors. If you are against trickle-down, you go DIRECTLY to homeowners, small business, and individual investors and bail them out. That was not done. Totally agree. Big reason I came to despise him after supporting him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites