Same Sex Marriage Legalized

[Flyfreak 84]

 

It's not based on anything legal, per se. It's based on my belief that there still need to be moral ideals in society. I believe a man and woman married represent the ideal for relationships. That doesn't mean that homosexual relationships don't contain some very good things, too. I believe our society should hold up what is ideal and lovingly accept what is not as well. That means marriage remains man and woman, but other forms of relationship are also given dignity and worth from a legal standpoint. That would mean that civil unions be granted. Or maybe the government should just get out of the marriage business altogether and make everything about civil unions. Then, churches could decide what is marriage and what is not based on their own set of beliefs. There is no hate in me with respect to this subject. I just see it through a different lens. It isn't a hateful lens.

 

And yes, of course my views are rooted in my faith. The two are inseparable. And because they are, I really have no business denying rights to anyone. I just think there should be a separation between what is ideal and what is less ideal, but still acceptable.

the problem that many christians have in our country is confusing the standard of holiness god requires from his believers (the church) with the political standards (laws) that come from our government

 

christians need to stop trying to make the u.s. the church and focus on being the church that is pursuing the holiness of god

[tanatastic 2,062]

 

Yeah, I know...I was purposely confusing them...I give your ability to get a joke a -1000.

Fine ill bump it to a 3.

[Flyfreak 84]

This Jefferson schmuck also apparently owned slaves and was a serial rapist. I have not confirmed if flew a controversial flag, but I'll bet he did.

hahahahahaha

[Fumbleweed 555]

the problem that many christians have in our country is confusing the standard of holiness god requires from his believers (the church) with the political standards (laws) that come from our government

 

christians need to stop trying to make the u.s. the church and focus on being the church that is pursuing the holiness of god

 

One final thought. This is a great post. Couldn't agree more.

[Mike Honcho 5,553]

Fine ill bump it to a 3.

 

We can't all be redtodd...or maybe we can.

[vuduchile 1,947]

Whose attacking you?

I don't know that I'd call it attacking, but you've been pretty belligerent to Fumble in this thread.

[vuduchile 1,947]

This Jefferson schmuck also apparently owned slaves and was a serial rapist. I have not confirmed if flew a controversial flag, but I'll bet he did.

JOHN WILKES BOOTH SHOULDA SHOT HIM TOO! if he'd been alive then....and if he'd had a semi-automatic derringer.

[vuduchile 1,947]

the problem that many christians have in our country is confusing the standard of holiness god requires from his believers (the church) with the political standards (laws) that come from our government

 

christians need to stop trying to make the u.s. the church and focus on being the church that is pursuing the holiness of god

Wait. Are you saying that church and state should be SEPARATE?

[Flyfreak 84]

Wait. Are you saying that church and state should be SEPARATE?

oil and water never mix

[wiffleball 4,797]

Let's face it, when you're married, it's always the same secks.

[wiffleball 4,797]

Okay, I'm pretty rat's butt about this, HOWEVER:

 

The media HAS to stop showing us images of fugly kweers kissing. It's just gross.

 

show me a couple of hot lipstick lezbos scissoring on the steps of SCOTUS, that's great.

 

But not a couple of 65+ year old bull-dykes in flannel and crocs making out. Blech.

[Flyfreak 84]

Okay, I'm pretty rat's butt about this, HOWEVER:

 

The media HAS to stop showing us images of fugly kweers kissing. It's just gross.

 

show me a couple of hot lipstick lezbos scissoring on the steps of SCOTUS, that's great.

 

But not a couple of 65+ year old bull-dykes in flannel and crocs making out. Blech.

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af177/sirhrmechanic/lesbians1_zps1da99148.jpg

[wiffleball 4,797]

Ah, ICK!!!

[Flyfreak 84]

Ah, ICK!!!

thanks scotus

[Sho Nuff 720]

the problem that many christians have in our country is confusing the standard of holiness god requires from his believers (the church) with the political standards (laws) that come from our government

 

christians need to stop trying to make the u.s. the church and focus on being the church that is pursuing the holiness of god

Bingo...keep the laws out of my church and the church out of my laws.

[Flyfreak 84]

Bingo...keep the laws out of my church and the church out of my laws.

things could get hairy if and when the gov forces churches to marry gay people

[Sho Nuff 720]

things could get hairy if and when the gov forces churches to marry gay people

They will have to get past the 1st Amendment to do so.

[Mike Honcho 5,553]

things could get hairy if and when the gov forces churches to marry gay people

 

They can't, and it's a ridiculous non-starter argument.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

things could get hairy if and when the gov forces churches to marry gay people

I nominate this for "dumbest post ever"

[Flyfreak 84]

I nominate this for "dumbest post ever"

not good?

[Mike Honcho 5,553]

I nominate this for "dumbest post ever"

 

Just put it in the other thread.

[Mike Honcho 5,553]

not good?

 

Can a Jewish couple sue to get married in a Christian church...you have to be a part of the faith to get married in a church. If the faith doesn't accept homosexuality, you ain't getting married in that church.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

the problem that many christians have in our country is confusing the standard of holiness god requires from his believers (the church) with the political standards (laws) that come from our government

 

christians need to stop trying to make the u.s. the church and focus on being the church that is pursuing the holiness of god

Bingo.

 

He purpose of the law is to create a minimum set of standards. Any lawmaker would hope you act even better than the law requires.

 

The law does not endorse bahavior. It prohibits behavior deemed socially unacceptable.

 

You think being gay is a sin? Cool. Don't do it. But, as there is no viable reason to prohibit Ghey marriage, it should be legal.

[WhiteWonder 3,020]

Lol. Now we're going to hear all tje bible thumpers claim that God wouldn't want gays to have the same rights as everyone else. Yup, that's right. God creates gays and then hates them. Great logic.

But they wernt created that way, it's a poor life choice

[IGotWorms 4,063]

 

Here's the rub on this:

 

I might disagree with a 30-year old man who thinks he truly loves a 13-year old girl and wants to marry her. But, I would not turn my disagreement into a personal attack. When people start mocking/ridiculing people they disagree with, that is the lack of respect I am talking about.

 

Personal attacks based on differences of worldview/opinion are the heart of the problem from my perspective. We should all be able to attack an idea without attacking the person who holds the idea.

You're personally attacking an entire segment of the population when you say they are not worthy of getting married. And it doesn't matter that you couch your attacks in terms of your personal sanctimonious religious beliefs. HTH

[Flyfreak 84]

 

Can a Jewish couple sue to get married in a Christian church...you have to be a part of the faith to get married in a church. If the faith doesn't accept homosexuality, you ain't getting married in that church.

so you don't think that there are any gay christians out there, good to know

[ZeroTolerance 584]

http://i.imgur.com/XSOa75K.jpg

 

(Not a picture of two 400 lb half-naked women.)

[tubby_mcgee 701]

Yeah...these pukes have reason to celebrate tonight and ramrod their partner's fecal material into oblivion. Blechhh. If these fellas think walking around with sh$% on the end of their dicks is a good idea, hey...let 'em have at it.

[Voltaire 5,534]

No, they are pricks. It has zero affect on you if your not gay. Religeous reasons are bogus. You know I already proved that religeon is fake right? You were there for that im sure, its done, I debunked it, you can safely stop believing now.

 

Name some non religeous reasons that someone could be against it for. They dont have to be your own, just make up some hypothetical reasons one would be against it. Im genuinely curious.

I don't think SCOTUS and the court system should force this on everybody, I think each state should decide for itself. Public opinion is changing on this matter, it'd get there on it's own. I'd rather the gay right agenda pass by ballot initiative or legislative action across 50 states rather than the judicial action of five people.

[Sho Nuff 720]

so you don't think that there are any gay christians out there, good to know

 

 

There are...and there are some Christian churches that will marry homosexuals.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Yeah...these pukes have reason to celebrate tonight and ramrod their partner's fecal material into oblivion. Blechhh. If these fellas think walking around with sh$% on the end of their dicks is a good idea, hey...let 'em have at it.

 

Cause only gheys like anal right?

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

 

Cause only gheys like anal right?

No. But gays only like anal. That's what makes em gay silly.

[Voltaire 5,534]

 

Cause only gheys like anal right?

i don't think they have much choice since they have 2/3 as many holes to choose from.

[Sho Nuff 720]

i don't realize they had much choice since they have 1/3 as many holes to choose from.

 

 

Sure...point was...plenty of straight guys want to stick in a woman's bunghole...don't think tubby will cry about them walking around with crap on their cack.

[MDC 8,117]

i don't think they have much choice since they have 1/3 as many holes to choose from.

Gays don't have mouths???

[MDC 8,117]

 

 

Sure...point was...plenty of straight guys want to stick in a woman's bunghole...don't think tubby will cry about them walking around with crap on their cack.

I was crying the time that happened to me.

[Voltaire 5,534]

 

 

Sure...point was...plenty of straight guys want to stick in a woman's bunghole...don't think tubby will cry about them walking around with crap on their cack.

well maybe. I presume most people make it a point to clean up the santorum when they're done before walking around.

[Flyfreak 84]

well maybe. I presume most people make it a point to clean up the santorum when they're done before walking around.

stink d*ck

[Sho Nuff 720]

well maybe. I presume most people make it a point to clean up the santorum when they're done before walking around.

 

just not the gheys according to tubby

[SUXBNME 1,631]

I don't think SCOTUS and the court system should force this on everybody, I think each state should decide for itself. Public opinion is changing on this matter, it'd get there on it's own. I'd rather the gay right agenda pass by ballot initiative or legislative action across 50 states rather than the judicial action of five people.

Agreed.

 

Obama publicly changed his mind 5+ times since he was first a senator. (on ghey marriage) I assume that this is mainly because of public opinion vs re-election. Just makes him the same as most politicians. Nothing new. Not an Obama sucks dig.