shotsup 832 Posted February 2, 2016 Who do you got ? There is a good 6-8 or so to choose from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 593 Posted February 3, 2016 Barry sanders and roger staubach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,229 Posted February 3, 2016 Bo Jackson, Cam Newton, Pat Sullivan. There might be others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted February 3, 2016 Barry sanders and roger staubach. no one can beat those two. Marcus Allen, OJ and Earl Campbell come to mind as other good backs but Barry tops them all. I would rate Staubach number 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted February 3, 2016 no one can beat those two. Marcus Allen, OJ and Earl Campbell come to mind as other good backs but Barry tops them all. I would rate Staubach number 1. Yea Barrys playoff succes and SB victories are unmatched. Great career there of running circles around people all year then falling over when it mattered most. Real storybook stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,098 Posted February 3, 2016 Related side question. If Cam wins in Sunday he'd have won the Heisman, a National Championship, a Super Bowl and an NFL MVP. Has anybody else done that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,229 Posted February 3, 2016 Related side question. If Cam wins in Sunday he'd have won the Heisman, a National Championship, a Super Bowl and an NFL MVP. Has anybody else done that? And a junior college national championship. And #1 overall pick. And NFL rookie of the year. And AP player of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,098 Posted February 3, 2016 And a junior college national championship. And #1 overall pick. And NFL rookie of the year. And AP player of the year. Rich Eisen posted a link of all his accomplishments over the past five years in his web site. It's overwhelmingly impressive what he's accomplished so far. Check it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 948 Posted February 3, 2016 Rich Eisen posted a link of all his accomplishments over the past five years in his web site. It's overwhelmingly impressive what he's accomplished so far. Especially since he's black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted February 3, 2016 Related side question. If Cam wins in Sunday he'd have won the Heisman, a National Championship, a Super Bowl and an NFL MVP. Has anybody else done that? Markus Allen won Heisman, National Championship, Super Bowl and Super Bowl MVP which Cam still has a shot at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,098 Posted February 3, 2016 Especially since he's black No he's not. Super Man is white. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted February 3, 2016 I will put Chuck Woodson on the Sanders and Staubach level. Woodson won the Heisman, NFL Rookie of the Year, NFL Defensive Player of the Year, 8 time All Pro, Won a Super Bowl, etc. If Cam Newton wins this week, and just plays another 5-8 years, he probably gets into Tier 1. Tier 1: Roger Staubach Barry Sanders Charles Woodson Tier 2: OJ Simpson Tony Dorsett Earl Campbell Marcus Allen Herschell Walker Tim Brown Cam Newton Tier 3: Carson Palmer Reggie Bush Jim Plunkett Eddie George Vinny Testeverde Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted February 3, 2016 No he's not. Super Man is white. I hope the Broncos defense is Kryptonite !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted February 3, 2016 <p> I will put Chuck Woodson on the Sanders and Staubach level. Woodson won the Heisman, NFL Rookie of the Year, NFL Defensive Player of the Year, 8 time All Pro, Won a Super Bowl, etc. If Cam Newton wins this week, and just plays another 5-8 years, he probably gets into Tier 1. Tier 1: Roger Staubach Barry Sanders Charles Woodson Tier 2: OJ Simpson Tony Dorsett Earl Campbell Marcus Allen Herschell Walker Tim Brown Cam Newton Tier 3: Carson Palmer Reggie Bush Jim Plunkett Eddie George Vinny Testeverde I would swap Sanders and Dorsett's tiers and remove Testicleverde from the list all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 593 Posted February 3, 2016 I would swap Sanders and Dorsett's tiers and remove Testicleverde from the list all together. Testaverde is a hard guy to judge. He did have a very long career and threw for over 45K yards. He never really wowed me at the NFL level, but to be able to stick around for that long is pretty impressive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted February 3, 2016 Testaverde is a hard guy to judge. He did have a very long career and threw for over 45K yards. He never really wowed me at the NFL level, but to be able to stick around for that long is pretty impressive He had that one good year with the Jets ('08?). But I can't put him on a list of greats-even at a teir 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 3, 2016 Anyone who doesn't have OJ in the top 3 (number 1 really) is swayed by his post game troubles. He was the greatest RB ever. Like Payton, he played for a horrible team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted February 3, 2016 I would swap Sanders and Dorsett's tiers and remove Testicleverde from the list all together. He had that one good year with the Jets ('08?). But I can't put him on a list of greats-even at a teir 3 Barry Sanders is debated by many to be the greatest RB in history. I've never heard even one person claim the same of Dorsett. As for Vinny....9th all time in yards, 12th all time in TDs....But 4th in INTs. I get the argument against I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted February 3, 2016 Rich Eisen posted a link of all his accomplishments over the past five years in his web site. It's overwhelmingly impressive what he's accomplished so far. Check it out. Brady and Manning = Bird and Magic Cam = Jordan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 948 Posted February 3, 2016 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Teblow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,125 Posted February 3, 2016 He was the greatest RB ever. Not even close. Jim Brown is the greatest RB ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted February 3, 2016 Barry Sanders is debated by many to be the greatest RB in history. I've never heard even one person claim the same of Dorsett. As for Vinny....9th all time in yards, 12th all time in TDs....But 4th in INTs. I get the argument against I suppose. I loved watching Barry Sanders. I only take him off that top teir because he left the game too early and didn't win a Super Bowl. I could be wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,125 Posted February 3, 2016 I loved watching Barry Sanders. I only take him off that top teir because he left the game too early and didn't win a Super Bowl. I could be wrong. And he got pulled on the goal line because he was more likely to lose yardage than score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,098 Posted February 3, 2016 I will put Chuck Woodson on the Sanders and Staubach level. Woodson won the Heisman, NFL Rookie of the Year, NFL Defensive Player of the Year, 8 time All Pro, Won a Super Bowl, etc. If Cam Newton wins this week, and just plays another 5-8 years, he probably gets into Tier 1. Tier 1: Roger Staubach Barry Sanders Charles Woodson Tier 2: OJ Simpson Tony Dorsett Earl Campbell Marcus Allen Herschell Walker Tim Brown Cam Newton Tier 3: Carson Palmer Reggie Bush Jim Plunkett Eddie George Vinny Testeverde Reggie Bush was an average RB. He was a glorified decoy that couldn't run off tackle. He doesn't belong in tier three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted February 3, 2016 Reggie Bush was an average RB. He was a glorified decoy that couldn't run off tackle. He doesn't belong in tier three. If you're gonna' but Reggie Bush on a list, you need Ricky Williams on it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 593 Posted February 3, 2016 Does Reggie count because he doesn't have a heist an anymore..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 3, 2016 Not even close. Jim Brown is the greatest RB ever. "Not even close"? Ridiculous. Brown would have been good in any era, but he dominated guys who were all smaller and slower. Let's not get carried away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,098 Posted February 3, 2016 If you're gonna' but Reggie Bush on a list, you need Ricky Williams on it too. George Rogers was better than both of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted February 3, 2016 As for Vinny....9th all time in yards, 12th all time in TDs....But 4th in INTs. I get the argument against I suppose. Jim Plunkett stayed around for 15 years, won comeback player of the year, a Super Bowl and Super Bowl MVP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted February 3, 2016 I loved watching Barry Sanders. I only take him off that top teir because he left the game too early and didn't win a Super Bowl. I could be wrong. The Lions are THE DESTINATION for Heisman winners to go if they wanna waste their talent or have their careers cut short. Barry Sanders Billy Sims Steve Owens Howard Cassady Andre Ware Desmond Howard Reggie Bush Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,125 Posted February 3, 2016 "Not even close"? Ridiculous. Brown would have been good in any era, but he dominated guys who were all smaller and slower. Let's not get carried away. OJ had what 2 maybe 3 good seasons. There is a reason why very very few people think he is the greatest RB ever. He just doesn't compare to Brown, Payton, Emmitt or Sanders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted February 3, 2016 OJ had what 2 maybe 3 good seasons. There is a reason why very very few people think he is the greatest RB ever. He just doesn't compare to Brown, Payton, Emmitt or Sanders. I don't think he is the greatest, but he did run for 2003 yds. in a 14 game season. The guy was an amazing football talent, but a sad, pathetic waste of a human being. I remember reading this book in elementary school around the time O.J. was riding high. https://www.etsy.com/listing/240915582/vintage-hardcover-football-book-star Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,125 Posted February 3, 2016 I don't think he is the greatest, but he did run for 2003 yds. in a 14 game season. The guy was an amazing football talent, but a sad, pathetic waste of a human being. I remember reading this book in elementary school around the time O.J. was riding high. https://www.etsy.com/listing/240915582/vintage-hardcover-football-book-star I completely agree with you. A great talent but not the best ever as Timmy claims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted February 3, 2016 As a Patriots fan from the early 70's, I watched a lot of OJ games. And from a strict eye test, he was the best running back I ever saw run. He had everything, power, speed and great moves. I think of Adrian Peterson with more elusiveness. Every team went into a game with OJ with the purpose of stopping him. I do think Buffalo had a very good run blocking offensive line and they also had an excellent run blocking full back in Jim Braxton. The numbers tell me Sanders was better. I vividly remember some of OJ's games in the snow. The guy had extraordinary balance even on a slippery field. He is definitely underrated today. When he was playing, he was considered the best ever with Jim Brown. Best combo of power, speed and elusiveness ever by a running back IMO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted February 3, 2016 I completely agree with you. A great talent but not the best ever as Timmy claims. My wife and I watched the People vs. OJ last night. That whole episode, on the heels of the Rodney King incident, was quite a shock to white America. I remember watching the verdict while we were on a break from Regional Meetings at work. I was in a hotel conference room with my store managers (3 black, 7 white) When the verdict was announced, the 2 black guys and the 1 black chick literally got up, cheered, hugged each other and danced around the room as the rest of us stared at them, dumbfounded. Regardless of race, I still don't understand how anyone can celebrate the brutal slayings of 2 innocent people at the hands of such a cold blooded killer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanil 520 Posted February 3, 2016 Rashaan Salaam obviously. GO BUFFS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted February 3, 2016 OJ had what 2 maybe 3 good seasons. There is a reason why very very few people think he is the greatest RB ever. He just doesn't compare to Brown, Payton, Emmitt or Sanders. I would take OJ over Emmitt if I had a choice to draft one. Not even close IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted February 3, 2016 Payton, Sanders, AP, Ladainian> Brown, OJ, Emmit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 593 Posted February 3, 2016 Bo was the best one I've seen, speed, power, he was everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites