Mike Honcho 4,574 Posted March 1, 2016 I really don't see how Trump is any worse than this field. Every one of them with the exception of Sanders is a bought and paid for shill of corporate America. The only differences with Trump are that he's primarily self funded, not beholden to the party elite and prone to saying stupid things. You have to be joking. Stupid things is Gov Perry saying "Hey I'm going to eliminate 3 government departments...", no comparison to "I'm going to kill all the terrorists and then kill their families", that's an entirely different planet than stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,574 Posted March 1, 2016 Can't we that hate her, just assume it's so? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be alone in that sentiment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,096 Posted March 1, 2016 You have to be joking. Stupid things is Gov Perry saying "Hey I'm going to eliminate 3 government departments...", no comparison to "I'm going to kill all the terrorists and then kill their families", that's an entirely different planet than stupid. You have to excuse MDC, he admits to A. not watching the debates (getting their stance straight from the horses mought) and B. not actually reading up on the candidates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,570 Posted March 1, 2016 You have to be joking. Stupid things is Gov Perry saying "Hey I'm going to eliminate 3 government departments...", no comparison to "I'm going to kill all the terrorists and then kill their families", that's an entirely different planet than stupid. I don't think anyone on earth including Trump thinks he's going to make Mexico build a border wall or blow up every terrorist. He says dumb things to rule up dumb people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 It's not all that hard to understand, years of Robert Murdoch's bombastc media desensitizing the base to inflamatory statements , rejection of science and mocking experts as "elitistist liberals", just a few of the reasons why he's got 30% of the country supporting him. And that 30% might be high, I'm guesstimating based on his percentage he's getting in the primaries, 50-60% of the primaries have been votes against him. And despite BLS statements of how hated Hiliary is, Trump has a higher unfavorability, and when it gets one on one between the two, Hilary will look even better. Bet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 1, 2016 Gotta love the old Trump is getting the "stupid" vote argument from the panicked masses. So all of the millions of inner city folks who voted for Obama on the basis of getting free stuff are the smart folks ? Is that the argument ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,570 Posted March 1, 2016 You have to excuse MDC, he admits to A. not watching the debates (getting their stance straight from the horses mought) and B. not actually reading up on the candidates. I know you're angry that I think Kasich is a fraud but a month from now he will be miles in the rear view mirror and hopefully you'll be less whiny and butthurt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted March 1, 2016 Gotta love the old Trump is getting the "stupid" vote argument from the panicked masses. It's not an "argument," there is data showing poorly educated people are supporting him in droves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,574 Posted March 1, 2016 Bet? I don't bet money with people I don't know, but if you want to do a sig bet that says, "I'm so incredibly stupid that not only did I think Donald Trump would be the president of the United States, I thought it was a good idea!". I'd be okay with that. Sig for a year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,570 Posted March 1, 2016 Gotta love the old Trump is getting the "stupid" vote argument from the panicked masses. So all of the millions of inner city folks who voted for Obama on the basis of getting free stuff are the smart folks ? Is that the argument ? Drobs shows up to defend the stupid vote - stunner. Only someone as dumb as you could vote for Trump for the wrong reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 1, 2016 Drobs shows up to defend the stupid vote - stunner. Only someone as dumb as you could vote for Trump for the wrong reasons. I'm not voting for Trump, and my turds are smarter than you on your best day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,570 Posted March 1, 2016 I'm not voting for Trump, and my turds are smarter than you on your best day. Did they finish college? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 Gotta love the old Trump is getting the "stupid" vote argument from the panicked masses. So all of the millions of inner city folks who voted for Obama on the basis of getting free stuff are the smart folks ? Is that the argument ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 1, 2016 Did they finish college?finishing colleges means what in the real world ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 finishing colleges means what in the real world ? A ton of debt and slavery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 1, 2016 A ton of debt and slavery. nah thats schits gonna be free, just ask the smart voters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 nah thats schits gonna be free, just ask the smart voters. IKR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,096 Posted March 1, 2016 This pretty much nails it. I fully feel that even a single four-year term by either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders would be disastrous to the fundamentals and principles this nation was founded on. But a Donald Trump administration would be equally, if not more, disastrous. The difference is that with Donald Trump, conservatives and the Republican Party would be shackled to the mess created, bound at least by association to whatever tyranny he imposes, whatever disastrous policy he enacts on a whim, and whatever hateful, bigoted rhetoric follows in his wake by the alarming number of his followers I would never have imagined still exist in America today.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 1, 2016 This pretty much nails it. you can't be too bright if you're buying into the race card being played... Scientifically anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 This pretty much nails it. Tyranny? And Bernie Sanders forcing me to give up my wages to help some retarded kid go to college and get free stuff isn't focking tyranny? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,096 Posted March 1, 2016 Gotta love the old Trump is getting the "stupid" vote argument from the panicked masses. So all of the millions of inner city folks who voted for Obama on the basis of getting free stuff are the smart folks ? Is that the argument ? It's not an argument. It's a statement of fact based on exit polling data. It doesn't mean those votes don't count as much but it lets me know who's falling for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,570 Posted March 1, 2016 This pretty much nails it. Disasterous to the principles this country was founded on? Get a grip Louise. We've been listening to predictions about the death of the nation for almost 10 years now, going to be real hard to keep up that level of fake outrage for another 4-8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,096 Posted March 1, 2016 Tyranny? And Bernie Sanders forcing me to give up my wages to help some retarded kid go to college and get free stuff isn't focking tyranny? It's hyperbole sure, but the point of the quote is to illustrate what half of the party thinks. And those half vote (or wont in November) for Donald Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 It's hyperbole sure, but the point of the quote is to illustrate what half of the party thinks. And those half vote (or wont in November) for Donald Trump. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,574 Posted March 1, 2016 This pretty much nails it. I fully feel that even a single four-year term by either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders would be disastrous to the fundamentals and principles this nation was founded on. Do you really expect people to take you seriously when you make statements that the above 'nails it'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted March 1, 2016 This pretty much nails it. At this point, I'm willing to accept a Trump presidency in the hopes that it will destroy the Republican party as we know it, and perhaps bring an end to the 2 party system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 At this point, I'm willing to accept a Trump presidency in the hopes that it will destroy the Republican party as we know it, and perhaps bring an end to the 2 party system. BAM! Headshot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,096 Posted March 1, 2016 I didn't say it (which is why I put it in quotes). That was a quote I found interesting in that it encapsulated what half of the Republican Party (the non Trump folks) feel. Of course Hillary supporters will roll eyes, and yes the quote of is full of hyperbole. Like most passionate political rants do. But the point I'm making, and let me be clear here, is that half of the party who normally votes R feel something similar to that quote. And they wont be voting for Trump no matter what in November. Some may even make the switch. They feel he's even worse than than the alternative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 I didn't say (which is why I put it in quotes). That was a quote I found interesting in that it encapsulated what half of the Republican Party (the non Trump folks) feel. Of course Hillary supporters will roll eyes, and yes the quote of full of hyperbole. Like most passionate political rants do. But the point I'm making, and let me be clear here, is that half of the party who normally votes R feel something similar to that quote. And they wont be voting for Trump no matter what in November. Some may even make the switch. They feel he's even worse than than the alternative. Wanna bet? Because I can almost guarantee you (and will put money on it) that R's will be out in full force to vote for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted March 1, 2016 I didn't say it (which is why I put it in quotes). That was a quote I found interesting in that it encapsulated what half of the Republican Party (the non Trump folks) feel. Of course Hillary supporters will roll eyes, and yes the quote of is full of hyperbole. Like most passionate political rants do. But the point I'm making, and let me be clear here, is that half of the party who normally votes R feel something similar to that quote. And they wont be voting for Trump no matter what in November. Some may even make the switch. They feel he's even worse than than the alternative. I'm not so sure. The hatred for Hillary and Socialism is very strong among conservatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,096 Posted March 1, 2016 At this point, I'm willing to accept a Trump presidency in the hopes that it will destroy the Republican party as we know it, and perhaps bring an end to the 2 party system. This idiom is appropriate. The idiom to cut off your nose to spite your face means you shouldn’t do something out of spite or revenge that will end up causing more harm to you than to the person with which you are angry. In other words, do not let your overreaction lead to self-harm. If you wanted to do what you said then you should have rallied around Ron Paul 8 years ago or Rand Paul this year. Those are true 'anti-establishment' candidates. Trump is a buffoon. You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. Wise up folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,574 Posted March 1, 2016 I didn't say it (which is why I put it in quotes). That was a quote I found interesting in that it encapsulated what half of the Republican Party (the non Trump folks) feel. Of course Hillary supporters will roll eyes, and yes the quote of is full of hyperbole. Like most passionate political rants do. But the point I'm making, and let me be clear here, is that half of the party who normally votes R feel something similar to that quote. And they wont be voting for Trump no matter what in November. Some may even make the switch. They feel he's even worse than than the alternative. You know what, than say 'I agree with this about Trump" rather than "nails it". Cause otherwise you come off as a chicken little 'Oh, it will be Armageddon if either of these are elected'. On a message board, we only can respond to what you post, we're not clairvoyant and can just discern what you are thinking. Just trying to help, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 This idiom is appropriate. If you wanted to do what you said then you should have rallied around Ron Paul 8 years ago or Rand Paul this year. Those are true 'anti-establishment' candidates. Trump is a buffoon. You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. Wise up folks. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted March 1, 2016 This idiom is appropriate. If you wanted to do what you said then you should have rallied around Ron Paul 8 years ago or Rand Paul this year. Those are true 'anti-establishment' candidates. Trump is a buffoon. You're cutting off your nose to spite your face. Wise up folks. That only applies if you believe Trump will do MORE harm than Hillary or Bernie. I think he'll be largely ineffective, make lots of mistakes and likely go down as one of the worst Presidents in history. But, I won't support a further move toward Socialism just so we can maintain the status quo. For whatever reason, you can't seem to grasp that there are a great number of people in this country who can't stand either party and their politics as usual. We've been doing this same sh!t for decades, and the trajectory of the country is worse because of it. True democracy may never again see the light of day in this country, but I'd like to think it has a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 1, 2016 That only applies if you believe Trump will do MORE harm than Hillary or Bernie. I think he'll be largely ineffective, make lots of mistakes and likely go down as one of the worst Presidents in history. But, I won't support a further move toward Socialism just so we can maintain the status quo. For whatever reason, you can't seem to grasp that there are a great number of people in this country who can't stand either party and their politics as usual. We've been doing this same sh!t for decades, and the trajectory of the country is worse because of it. True democracy may never again see the light of day in this country, but I'd like to think it has a chance. Geez, I hope not. Because we don't believe in Mob Rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted March 1, 2016 Current general election scenarios (from realclearpolitics.com) Clinton 46.5Trump 43.5 Cruz 46.5Clinton 45.0 Rubio 48.5Clinton 43.5 Sanders 49.8Trump 41.8 Sanders 50.0Cruz 40.3 Sanders 47.3Rubio 44.0 Kasich 47.7Clinton 40.3 Sanders 43.0Kasich 42.5 Clinton 46.3Carson 45.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,746 Posted March 1, 2016 Its going to be a great summer for campaigning When one candidate Is indicted on federal charges and the other one is mired down in a civil fraud lawsuit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,574 Posted March 1, 2016 Its going to be a great summer for campaigning When one candidate Is indicted on federal charges and the other one is mired down in a civil fraud lawsuit. Meh, least the country will know they electing criminals, instead of having to wait until after the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 671 Posted March 1, 2016 I've long assumed that all politicians are liars and criminals...even before they get elected to office. Maybe because I don't have the want-to to be a politician...but how in the hell can it be fun? Why would you want to work in this pig sty of sh!t? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,862 Posted March 1, 2016 Going to bed. Hopefully when I wake up it'll be a Trump sweep and that in distant second, Cruz has a better showing than Rubio. Meanwhile, hopefully Sanders can get some momentum again. Sanders doesn't have much of a shot in most of the states voting today. I think it'll be all over for him soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites