TheNewGirl 1,636 Posted October 10, 2016 We're just lucky to have you here to tell us what men think. So you're saying ou don't think this way? That if an incredibly beautiful woman you're walking around with, shopping, having lunch, whatever....you're not drawn to her? You don't want to just start kissing her? And then grabbing her junk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,415 Posted October 10, 2016 Of all the lady boy lib-bots around here I sense you're the biggest wuss. I'm thrilled you put time and thought into what I'm like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,636 Posted October 10, 2016 OK. It kind of sounded like you were defending him. I was pretty shocked. No not defending him at all. I guess I am more talking about all the outrage. Men in power have been using that power and money for centuries; whether it's to make out or have sex. Kings did it all the time. It's just a more modern version. What he said is incredibly offensive and yeah, without her consent, it's assult. But....probably nothing different than what JFK or Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, etc - they pretty much did the same stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted October 10, 2016 So you're saying ou don't think this way? That if an incredibly beautiful woman you're walking around with, shopping, having lunch, whatever....you're not drawn to her? You don't want to just start kissing her? And then grabbing her junk? No. I'm not 15. When I see a nice looking lady I think "That's a nice looking lady." I don't think "Jeez, I should go grab her junk." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted October 10, 2016 So you're saying ou don't think this way? That if an incredibly beautiful woman you're walking around with, shopping, having lunch, whatever....you're not drawn to her? You don't want to just start kissing her? And then grabbing her junk? Yes we all do. Trump was right, its just lockerroom talk, he hasnt assaulted anyone. Men say despicable things around eachother casually. Thats actually tame compared to the stuff I say with my friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 10, 2016 The 50 shades defense might be one of the most idiotic excuses there is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,636 Posted October 10, 2016 No. I'm not 15. When I see a nice looking lady I think "That's a nice looking lady." I don't think "Jeez, I should go grab her junk." Isn't it true though within the first 5 or 10 minutes of a guy seeing or meeting an attractive woman, he's already thought about having sex with her? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 10, 2016 Yes we all do. Trump was right, its just lockerroom talk, he hasnt assaulted anyone. Men say despicable things around eachother casually. Thats actually tame compared to the stuff I say with my friends. BS. What he said is not locker room talk at all. He described how he has assaulted women. Ive never had a friend or otherwise do such things. Saying he kisses women whether they want to or not or grabs their is assault...he claims he did such things. Thats not just locker room talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted October 10, 2016 Isn't it true though within the first 5 or 10 minutes of a guy seeing or meeting an attractive woman, he's already thought about having sex with her? Sometimes yeah, sometimes no. Depends on the people and situation. But thinking about the possibility of having sex with someone is different than thinking "I should grab her poosay because I'm in a powerful position and could probably get away with it." HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanil 521 Posted October 10, 2016 No not defending him at all. I guess I am more talking about all the outrage. Men in power have been using that power and money for centuries; whether it's to make out or have sex. Kings did it all the time. It's just a more modern version. What he said is incredibly offensive and yeah, without her consent, it's assult. But....probably nothing different than what JFK or Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, etc - they pretty much did the same stuff. Just because it's been around for centuries doesn't mean people shouldn't be outraged about it. People were outraged about it then too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 10, 2016 Isn't it true though within the first 5 or 10 minutes of a guy seeing or meeting an attractive woman, he's already thought about having sex with her? Saying a woman is hot or id like to have sex with her is far different than admitting he just grabs their . Its not a difficult thing to comprehend. Especially with a man who talks like he does about his daughter and found a 12 or 13 year old Paris Hilton hot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted October 10, 2016 The 50 shades defense might be one of the most idiotic excuses there is. I read "Silence of the Lambs" but I'd still just as soon NOT be killed by a serial killer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,003 Posted October 10, 2016 Sometimes yeah, sometimes no. Depends on the people and situation. But thinking about the possibility of having sex with someone is different than thinking "I should grab her poosay because I'm in a powerful position and could probably get away with it." HTH. That's cause you're not in a powerful position and could probably get away with it. Don't get me wrong. I think Trump is a total doosh and what he said completely disgusting and inappropriate. Doesn't change the fact that basically what he did was take what men say all the time to an extreme. And he does that with everything. Literally every topic he speaks about is taken to an extreme. So it doesn't seem out of character to me. Has he done it? I don't know. I'm not voting for him so I don't care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted October 10, 2016 That's cause you're not in a powerful position and could probably get away with it. I could totally get away with it. My incredible intellect combined with the fact that I don't try to get away with it is why I was given this position of power to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,003 Posted October 10, 2016 I could totally get away with it. My incredible intellect combined with the fact that I don't try to get away with it is why I was given this position of power to begin with. I bet you would be great at it to. Like, the greatest ever! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted October 10, 2016 I bet you would be great at it to. Like, the greatest ever! I would be so great at it... I mean...*sniff* right now, it's a disaster... a complete disaster... but *sniff* the way I do it... it's gonna' be great... everybody's gonna' love it... imported.. exported... and this is important... very, very important.. *sniff* so, I'm tellin' you... the way I do it... you've never seen anything like this and... I'll have the best people running it, the VPA (vagina protection agency) there's just no reason for it not to be great. *sniff* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted October 10, 2016 That's cause you're not in a powerful position and could probably get away with it. Don't get me wrong. I think Trump is a total doosh and what he said completely disgusting and inappropriate. Doesn't change the fact that basically what he did was take what men say all the time to an extreme. And he does that with everything. Literally every topic he speaks about is taken to an extreme. So it doesn't seem out of character to me. Has he done it? I don't know. I'm not voting for him so I don't care. There are thousands of men who are as powerful or more powerful then Trump who don't have allegations like this follow them around. It's almost like not all men are self-entitled narcissistic sh!t-bags. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,003 Posted October 10, 2016 There are thousands of men who are as powerful or more powerful then Trump who don't have allegations like this follow them around. It's almost like not all men are self-entitled narcissistic sh!t-bags. This allegation just came to light 5 days ago! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,911 Posted October 10, 2016 Whatever happened to that semen stained dress? Is it in the smithsonian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted October 10, 2016 This allegation just came to light 5 days ago! It's not exactly the first allegation. He's currently named in a lawsuit alleging he sexually assaulted a 13 y.o. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted October 10, 2016 This allegation just came to light 5 days ago! they way Trump speaks and interacts with everyone, especially women, is nothing new - what came out 5 days ago is just proof that he's been way worse for way longer than we even realized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted October 10, 2016 It's not exactly the first allegation. He's currently named in a lawsuit alleging he sexually assaulted a 13 y.o. this'll be great for Hillary, she can now claim, that "yeah, Bill assaulted women but AT LEAST they weren't 13 and AT LEAST he's not ISIS". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,003 Posted October 10, 2016 they way Trump speaks and interacts with everyone, especially women, is nothing new - what came out 5 days ago is just proof that he's been way worse for way longer than we even realized. There is no doubt in my mind that if he continually acted that was with women he would have been kicked in the nuts repeatedly by now. He's a blowhard. That's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 10, 2016 It's not exactly the first allegation. He's currently named in a lawsuit alleging he sexually assaulted a 13 y.o. it's a bullsh1t lawsuit, they originated in LA and now is in NY ..the judge is a sister of some ABC political hack. Has dirty Clinton bullsh1t written all over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,003 Posted October 10, 2016 It's not exactly the first allegation. He's currently named in a lawsuit alleging he sexually assaulted a 13 y.o. Okay I looked the case up. He's being accused of working with Jeffrey Epstein in raping this girl. This is the same Jeffrey Epstein with the sex plane that Bill Clinton repeatedly ditched his secret service to fly on, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 10, 2016 Psst...Bill isnt running for President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,003 Posted October 10, 2016 Psst...Bill isnt running for President. I would call in to question the judgment of any woman who would stay married to a man who would act as Bill does. It's just one more indication why she isn't qualified to be President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 10, 2016 I would call in to question the judgment of any woman who would stay married to a man who would act as Bill does. It's just one more indication why she isn't qualified to be President. So, that is worse than Trump acting just like Bill did? Thats how ridiculous you all are right now. Bill was so bad...yet, you are supporting a guy who acts the same and is utterly clueless about any major issue that the job is involved with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted October 10, 2016 Okay I looked the case up. He's being accused of working with Jeffrey Epstein in raping this girl. This is the same Jeffrey Epstein with the sex plane that Bill Clinton repeatedly ditched his secret service to fly on, right? But Clinton! Bill Clinton being a sh!tbag doesn't preclude Donald Trump being one too. You do get that right? You seemed to think this was the first allegation of sexual misconduct towards Trump. I was merely trying to educate you that it's not. Nor is this case the only other allegation.. If you want to split hairs, the tape wasn't really any kind of "allegation" at all, it was just Trump confirming in his own words that he's exactly the kind of guy who might do some of the things he's been accused of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted October 10, 2016 There is no doubt in my mind that if he continually acted that was with women he would have been kicked in the nuts repeatedly by now. He's a blowhard. That's all. I respectfully disagree. Trump is a top of the food chain guy... a VERY important client to many people... I've seen executives, doctors, and attorneys - people in positions where they may spend a LOT of money - do some pretty sophomoric stuff to female staff and gotten away with it... having it be brushed off as "he's a character" or "he's just an odd guy" or some other excuse... and then that women then has to decide, is it worth it to say anything or do I just let it go... and I'm talking minor stuff here not rape or assault... stuff like hair pulls, drink swapping, footsies... stuff like that. Puts women in a bad position and I'm sure the envelope is pushed even further in some cases... especially if you're proclaiming you can just "grab them by the pvssy". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,415 Posted October 10, 2016 Okay I looked the case up. He's being accused of working with Jeffrey Epstein in raping this girl. This is the same Jeffrey Epstein with the sex plane that Bill Clinton repeatedly ditched his secret service to fly on, right? Why is that funny? That it's connected with Epstein should at least give it some credence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 10, 2016 And the rightys have been all over Bill about that plane...now link Trump with the same guy and its no big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,003 Posted October 10, 2016 But Clinton! Bill Clinton being a sh!tbag doesn't preclude Donald Trump being one too. You do get that right? You seemed to think this was the first allegation of sexual misconduct towards Trump. I was merely trying to educate you that it's not. Nor is this case the only other allegation.. If you want to split hairs, the tape wasn't really any kind of "allegation" at all, it was jump Trump confirming in his own words that he's exactly the kind of guy who might do some of the things he's been accused of. You don't have to tell me Trump is a sh!tbag. Pretty sure I said that myself not very long ago: I think Trump is a total doosh and what he said completely disgusting and inappropriate I just don't think this 11 year old tape is a big f'ing deal. Apparently neither does the one confirmed female on this bored. Men talk like pigs. And if he's guilty of a sex crime let him be tried for it and sent to prison. AFAIK that hasn't happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 10, 2016 Wait, just to be clear, are you saying that it's OK with you that Trump not only thinks it's OK to sexually assault a woman but that it's cool and something you should brag about? And it's OK because 50 Shades sold a bunch of copies? Grab her by the p*ssy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,003 Posted October 10, 2016 I respectfully disagree. Trump is a top of the food chain guy... a VERY important client to many people... I've seen executives, doctors, and attorneys - people in positions where they may spend a LOT of money - do some pretty sophomoric stuff to female staff and gotten away with it... having it be brushed off as "he's a character" or "he's just an odd guy" or some other excuse... and then that women then has to decide, is it worth it to say anything or do I just let it go... and I'm talking minor stuff here not rape or assault... stuff like hair pulls, drink swapping, footsies... stuff like that. Puts women in a bad position and I'm sure the envelope is pushed even further in some cases... especially if you're proclaiming you can just "grab them by the pvssy". I don't disagree. But not ALL women will tolerate it. And, if he's doing it as much as you all say he is, he would have found some of the ones who won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,911 Posted October 10, 2016 Drobeski won this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,415 Posted October 10, 2016 After watching the debate I'm pretty sure this is my CANDIDATE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,636 Posted October 10, 2016 It's almost like not all men are self-entitled narcissistic sh!t-bags. But they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,415 Posted October 10, 2016 But they are. After all the time you have spent here, I can't believe you feel that way!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,069 Posted October 10, 2016 But they are. I don't know... we seem to be breeding a lot of beta males who are appalled by a powerful dood scoring a lot of tail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites