Obummer sanctions Russia

[IGotWorms 4,058]

(CNN)President Barack Obama took unprecedented steps Thursday retaliating against what the administration described as "Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities," including sanctioning six Russian individuals and five Russian entities as well as ordering Russian diplomats to leave the country.

 

This is the first time the names of Russian officials involved in the hacking have become public on the sanctions list.

 

Obama also said in a separate statement that 35 Russian diplomats have been ordered to leave the country, and two Russian compounds are being closed under Thursday's actions.

 

A White House statement described the consensus from the Intelligence Community that Russia's meddling in US elections via cyberhacking as "unacceptable and will not be tolerated."

 

"Russia's cyberactivities were intended to influence the election, erode faith in US democratic institutions, sow doubt about the integrity of our electoral process, and undermine confidence in the institutions of the US government," the statement said. "These actions are unacceptable and will not be tolerated."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/29/politics/russia-sanctions-announced-by-white-house/index.html

 

Everyone to your corners!

[fandandy 3,313]

The below could also be said about the DNC and pretty much every media outlet.

 

...activities were intended to influence the election, erode faith in US democratic institutions, sow doubt about the integrity of our electoral process, and undermine confidence in the institutions of the US government," the statement said. "These actions are unacceptable and will not be tolerated."

[Hardcore troubadour 15,489]

That's fine. He's naming names. The Israel thing is the problem.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

The below could also be said about the DNC and pretty much every media outlet.

 

...activities were intended to influence the election, erode faith in US democratic institutions, sow doubt about the integrity of our electoral process, and undermine confidence in the institutions of the US government," the statement said. "These actions are unacceptable and will not be tolerated."

Wow. Some of you guys just don't get it.

 

It's a FOREIGN (and hostile) government.

[Djgb13 2,339]

Oh sure. Piss someone off who has a missle that has a blast radius the size of Texas

[Sho Nuff 720]

Oh sure. Piss someone off who has a missle that has a blast radius the size of Texas

So we should bend over and take it when they do this?

[Strike 5,570]

So we should bend over and take it when they do this?

 

U.S. does it all the time. Pretty hypocritical actually. Also hard to believe they're really outraged about this. You know what the better solution is? Secure your focking network and servers.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,489]

He has some proof obviously, let's just hope it's right and he didn't rush it. If the allegations are true, better he does it than Trump. We couldn't do nothing, but it is funny he found his balls at this late hour. I doubt he would have said or done a thing if HRC won. As a matter of fact, I'm sure of it.

[mobb_deep 920]

The below could also be said about the DNC and pretty much every media outlet.

 

...activities were intended to influence the election, erode faith in US democratic institutions, sow doubt about the integrity of our electoral process, and undermine confidence in the institutions of the US government," the statement said. "These actions are unacceptable and will not be tolerated."

Lol. The RNC tried to do everything the could to make a Trump lose the primary. This isn't some liberal phenomena.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

So we should bend over and take it when they do this?

Well that's what Trump wants so all his followers must parrot the line. Sad.

[cyclone24 1,913]

 

U.S. does it all the time. Pretty hypocritical actually. Also hard to believe they're really outraged about this. You know what the better solution is? Secure your focking network and servers.

That would require democrats to actually take responsibility. Faulting everyone but themselves is far more their speed.

 

Yep russia influenced the election..yep...sure.

[Djgb13 2,339]

So we should bend over and take it when they do this?

No but Obama could be more diplomatic about it.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Has anyone denied the contents of the private emails yet ?

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

U.S. does it all the time. Pretty hypocritical actually. Also hard to believe they're really outraged about this. You know what the better solution is? Secure your focking network and servers.

Its amazing how little you all give a damn about this...and hilarious knowing how much of a fit you'd have of it was the other way around.

 

Pathetic really making excuses for Russia in this

[Sho Nuff 720]

No but Obama could be more diplomatic about it.

Umm...this was a diplomatic response dumbass

[mobb_deep 920]

 

U.S. does it all the time. Pretty hypocritical actually. Also hard to believe they're really outraged about this. You know what the better solution is? Secure your focking network and servers.

Just curious if you're in the IT sector?

[Strike 5,570]

Its amazing how little you all give a damn about this...and hilarious knowing how much of a fit you'd have of it was the other way around.

 

Pathetic really making excuses for Russia in this

 

You and Worms love to tell other people how they'd react under different circumstances. I can tell you with 100% certainty that I would give as much of a flying fock about this had things been reversed. Don't want to get hacked? Secure your focking server.

 

I can't believe you just gloss over the fact that our own government does this same type of sh*t all the focking time themselves. I'd like us to lead by example.

[Strike 5,570]

Just curious if you're in the IT sector?

 

Yes

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

You and Worms love to tell other people how they'd react under different circumstances. I can tell you with 100% certainty that I would give as much of a flying fock about this had things been reversed. Don't want to get hacked? Secure your focking server.

 

I can't believe you just gloss over the fact that our own government does this same type of sh*t all the focking time themselves. I'd like us to lead by example.

Because Ive seen you all act different constantly. You've proven your hypocrisy many times over

[Djgb13 2,339]

Umm...this was a diplomatic response dumbass

No it isn't when Obama is playing the blame game still for "rigging" the election. That's a spoiled child wanting to blame an outside source for his party losing still. Now I'm not saying Trump would be anymore diplomatic that Obama but dam he needs to work a little better with a country who's dangerous

[Strike 5,570]

Because Ive seen you all act different constantly. You've proven your hypocrisy many times over

You all? I am one person. And feel free to point out when I've ever been inconsistent or hypocritical.

 

And continue to ignore the hypocrisy of your own government.

[Gepetto 1,371]

Woodward and Bernstein exposed corruption, as did the Russians (if Obama's accusations are true). I am thankful someone exposed the DNC corruption.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,489]

Obama is such a butt hurt ego-maniac he doesn't think for two seconds the precedent he's setting here for future lame ducks who's party loses. The Russian thing is ok on its own, but coupled with everything else he's doing he's letting the next guy go buck wild on his way out the door and the democrats can say nothing. Imagine a republican president who controls congress on his way out? But this arrogant Fock can't see that. It's all about him, and that's why his party is in shambles.

[Sho Nuff 720]

No it isn't when Obama is playing the blame game still for "rigging" the election. That's a spoiled child wanting to blame an outside source for his party losing still. Now I'm not saying Trump would be anymore diplomatic that Obama but dam he needs to work a little better with a country who's dangerous

 

He blamed them for their involvement and basing it on what his intel has told him.

They should be punished diplomatically as they were.

Has nothing to do with blame game or Trump...you still don't seem to get that they your thick skull

[Sho Nuff 720]

America. Fock yeah...don't Fock with us...unlesss its Russia...you guys do what you want

[Sho Nuff 720]

You all? I am one person. And feel free to point out when I've ever been inconsistent or hypocritical.

 

And continue to ignore the hypocrisy of your own government.

You all...as in you and those like you on this bored.

 

And you can post all the links you want to support your claim of what our government has done

[wiffleball 4,790]

Another POV if you will;

 

I don't mind focking with Russia, but no necessarily bc of this.

They've been focking with our diplomats and expat business

people for a long time now.

 

I'm talking flat-out poisoning them - until they get deathly ill.

Then, coincidentally, the one clinic closest to them - loses

power just as they get there.

 

All kinds of stories like that. Breaking into and tearing up / stealing

our folks' shiit, bugging everything, harassing/muggings, etc.

 

So, they may whine, but fock 'em. Fock 'em.

These are the same guys who kill Putin's political adversaries

with zero pretense or defense- in free sovereign countries.

 

So, F'em. Anybody crying for them is an ignorant fool.

[mobb_deep 920]

 

Yes

Cool. Me too. I guess I was just surprised by how you said "secure the network and servers" so casually. That's generally something someone who isn't in IT would say. I'm sure you know for every brilliant engineer there is in security there are equally brilliant people on the other end. The amount of time, money, resources, etc. to truly secure a network (especially one that would be targeted) is astronomical. I think we all sort of live day to day under a false reality that our information is secure. When the reality is every single one of us have our personal information scattered across the globe.

[Strike 5,570]

And you can post all the links you want to support your claim of what our government has done

Are you suggesting our government doesn't engage in influencing elections?

[RLLD 4,250]

 

U.S. does it all the time. Pretty hypocritical actually. Also hard to believe they're really outraged about this. You know what the better solution is? Secure your focking network and servers.

 

I always get a chuckle when government agencies pitch a fit about the costs of data center management, and I love to ask them how much it costs to be compromised. If you want a high availability system with high security, you need to pay the money.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Are you suggesting our government doesn't engage in influencing elections?

I'm suggesting you have made claims numerous times to deflect and excuse this and not brought to the table.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,489]

I'm suggesting you have made claims numerous times to deflect and excuse this and not brought ###### to the table.

Uh, the Israeli elections? It was blatant. Watch some news once in a blue.

[Strike 5,570]

I'm suggesting you have made claims numerous times to deflect and excuse this and not brought ###### to the table.

 

If you agree with me that the U.S. government engages in these same types of activities why would I have to bring anything to the table? So, answer my question. Do you agree or disagree that the U.S. government has tried to alter the election of other countries? It's a simple yes/no question. But, as usual, you just deflect.

[Strike 5,570]

Cool. Me too. I guess I was just surprised by how you said "secure the network and servers" so casually. That's generally something someone who isn't in IT would say. I'm sure you know for every brilliant engineer there is in security there are equally brilliant people on the other end. The amount of time, money, resources, etc. to truly secure a network (especially one that would be targeted) is astronomical. I think we all sort of live day to day under a false reality that our information is secure. When the reality is every single one of us have our personal information scattered across the globe.

 

Uh, look at my audience? Saying something like "Hitlery using the default SSL cert supplied with her Exchange server is a security risk" would go over the heads of most people here.

 

I disagree with your suggestion that any network/server can be compromised. Security isn't THAT time/resource/money intensive. It just takes qualified people who keep up on current exploits and patch their systems regularly.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

If you agree with me that the U.S. government engages in these same types of activities why would I have to bring anything to the table? So, answer my question. Do you agree or disagree that the U.S. government has tried to alter the election of other countries? It's a simple yes/no question. But, as usual, you just deflect.

Deflect? I'm asking you to show your work and you continue to refuse.

[Strike 5,570]

Deflect? I'm asking you to show your work and you continue to refuse.

 

Answer a simple yes/no question and I'll be glad to. But you just keep ignoring it. As will I to your request until you do answer my question.

 

It's not like you or Worms ever "show your work". I post more links in a month than both of you guys do all year combined.

[drobeski 3,061]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/12/29/president-obama-releases-ridiculous-fbi-report-on-russian-malicious-cyber-activity-full-pdf-included/

 

 

President Obama Releases Ridiculous FBI Report on Russian Malicious Cyber Activity (full pdf included)

Posted by sundance

Against the backdrop of a sanctions announcement, President Obamas administration has released a Joint Analysis Report claiming to outline the details of Russias involvement hacking into targeted political data base or computer systems during the election.

 

Except it doesnt.

 

Not even a little.

 

obama_netneutrality

 

The Russian Malicious Cyber Activity Joint Analysis Report (full pdf below) is pure nonsense. It outlines nothing more than vague and disingenuous typical hacking activity that is no more substantive than any other hacking report on any other foreign actor.

 

This might as well be a report blaming Nigerian fraud phone solicitors for targeting U.S. phone numbers. DUH! Just because your grandma didnt actually win that Nigerian national lottery doesnt mean the Nigerian Mafioso are targeting your employer to hold you accountable for her portion of the bill.

 

This FBI report is, well, quite simply, pure horse-pucky.

 

 

However, what the report does well is using ridiculous technical terminology to describe innocuous common activity. Example: ATPT29 is Olaf, the round faced chubby guy probably working from his kitchen table; and ATPT28 is his unemployed socially isolated buddy living in Moms basement down the street.

 

This paragraph is priceless in its humorous and disengenuous gobblespeak:

 

Both groups have historically targeted government organizations, think tanks, universities, and corporations around the world. APT29 has been observed crafting targeted spearphishing campaigns leveraging web links to a malicious dropper; once executed, the code delivers Remote Access Tools (RATs) and evades detection using a range of techniques.

 

APT28 is known for leveraging domains that closely mimic those of targeted organizations and tricking potential victims into entering legitimate credentials. APT28 actors relied heavily on shortened URLs in their spearphishing email campaigns. Once APT28 and APT29 have access to victims, both groups exfiltrate and analyze information to gain intelligence value.

 

These groups use this information to craft highly targeted spearphishing campaigns. These actors set up operational infrastructure to obfuscate their source infrastructure, host domains and malware for targeting organizations, establish command and control nodes, and harvest credentials and other valuable information from their targets.

 

(*note the emphasis I placed in the quote) All that nonsense is saying is a general explanation for how hacking, any hacking, is generally carried out. This entire FBI report is nothing more than a generalized, albeit techno-worded, explanation for how Nigerians, Indians, or in this case Russians, attempt to gain your email passwords etc., nothing more.

 

Heres the report:

 

 

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What is alarming to consider is how far the various radical leftists are willing to go to create a straw man crisis for political benefit; and secondly how diminished the executive office of the U.S. presidency actually becomes amid this level of ridiculous propaganda.

 

Theres no doubt the intended outcome is to create internal confusion amid the U.S. electorate, because there are millions of people who will buy into these fabrications.

 

Consider the earlier example from inside the Yahoo News article:

 

[] The US intelligence community has concluded that a hack-and-release of Democratic Party and Clinton staff emails was designed to put Trump a political neophyte who has praised Putin into the Oval Office. (link)

 

Theres still no evidence the DNC was hacked (WikiLeaks claims the information was an inside job of leaking), and even John Podesta admitted himself he was a victim of an ordinary phishing password change scam.

 

Does hacking exist, of course it does. Do hackers exist in every country connected by the internet, of course they do. Do state governments participate in hacking offense and defense, again yes, of course they do. And yes, the FBI and U.S. intelligence community act purposefully against all participants they can catch.

 

But what does that intellectual truism have to do with the specific allegation that hostile Russian hackers attempted to gain entry into the DNC or John Podesta? These are two entirely different issues which the Obama administration is attempting to conflate simply for political and ideological purposes.

 

Here is where we see Obamas intended conflated outcome. Consider the Yaho0 media paragraph above against the headline which accompanied the content:

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Answer a simple yes/no question and I'll be glad to. But you just keep ignoring it. As will I to your request until you do answer my question.

 

It's not like you or Worms ever "show your work". I post more links in a month than both of you guys do all year combined.

No...Fock you...I have zero inclination to appease you.

You were challenged to back up your claims and have deflected to this BS.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Conservative Treehouse agaIn drobs?

Oof

[cyclone24 1,913]

No...Fock you...I have zero inclination to appease you.

You were challenged to back up your claims and have deflected to this BS.

Classic....but not surprising answer.

 

You just throw out crap and then deflect anytime asks for you to prove anything. Pathetic