Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 3, 2017 No, he said he knew stuff nobody else does. There will be revelations upon revelations That's why Hannity went over to interview Assange Get him to say nobody in the Russian government gave them the info (not what is even alleged) Trump and his minions will say"see...wasn't the Russians" And they will think that's it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 3, 2017 http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/312380-aide-downplays-trump-hacking-revelation Sorry, he is basically going to bs us on his opinion of the report what report ? It hasn't been released yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,653 Posted January 3, 2017 Assange hasn't been caught in a lie yet, and wikileaks hasn't been found to pass bogus info yet either. I would expect Assange will protect his source. But his source could also be a third party that got the info from Russia, allowing Assange to deny Russian involvement, even though the info may have originated from Russians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 3, 2017 what report ? It hasn't been released yet. Lots has been released...but you still don't believe any of it http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/31/the-gru-putin-s-no-longer-so-secret-weapon.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C04NkBLXUAADd3k.jpg:large Seriously, you should educate yourself rather than talking out of your ass all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,642 Posted January 3, 2017 While you guys can argue back and forth, I think the bigger issue and the most blatant and undeniable issue Is wondering how our commander in chief Is going to work with Intelligence services that he has openly dismissed and derided. History has shown us time and time again That when The White House Ignores The smartest guys in the room Bad things happen.Same is true When the executive branch tries to bully The intelligence Community into providing Intel that agrees with their own preconceived narrative. To me, that is much more ominous And widespread than any one particular quibble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 3, 2017 While you guys can argue back and forth, I think the bigger issue and the most blatant and undeniable issue Is wondering how our commander in chief Is going to work with Intelligence services that he has openly dismissed and derided. History has shown us time and time again That when The White House Ignores The smartest guys in the room Bad things happen.Same is true When the executive branch tries to bully The intelligence Community into providing Intel that agrees with their own preconceived narrative. To me, that is much more ominous And widespread than any one particular quibble. That and the conflicts of interest with him and his sos and Russia are big concerns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,642 Posted January 3, 2017 Focking clown-car: Washington (CNN) A top adviser to President-elect Donald Trump said Monday he thinks the Russians were involved in election-related hacking of the US -- a very different view than that held by the incoming admin http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/02/politics/digital-fingerprints-russia-hacking/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted January 3, 2017 http://wapo.st/2hDyVUW Yes...the power grid...so save the it's just whining about the election BS. You all ok with this too? Washington Post's credibility... Shot. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-do-not-appear-to-have-targeted-vermont-utility-say-people-close-to-investigation/2017/01/02/70c25956-d12c-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html?utm_term=.f7276ae5044a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 3, 2017 Washington Post's credibility... Shot. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-do-not-appear-to-have-targeted-vermont-utility-say-people-close-to-investigation/2017/01/02/70c25956-d12c-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html?utm_term=.f7276ae5044a Wait...so, we shouldn't believe them when they post what you just linked to? They went sensationalist...see, investigation shows it was not targeted. Thats a good thing about investigations, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 3, 2017 That's why Hannity went over to interview Assange Get him to say nobody in the Russian government gave them the info (not what is even alleged) Trump and his minions will say"see...wasn't the Russians" And they will think that's it As expected Kellyanne Conway on CNBC today: Pay “significant attention” to WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange saying Russia wasn’t source for DNC/Podesta hacks. Though, its not quite what Assange said...and he lied a bit in the interview if any of you care to search it beyond the spin by Conway that was predictable as ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted January 3, 2017 Assange has said numerous times to multiple people that Russia was not the Hack. Keep swingin. I also love how you goofballs are so concerned with subverting of our democracy but have no concern with the DNC planting debate questions, asking for the questions for Hillary. Spoiler alert.....those are also a threat to our democracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 3, 2017 Assange has said numerous times to multiple people that Russia was not the Hack. Keep swingin. I also love how you goofballs are so concerned with subverting of our democracy but have no concern with the DNC planting debate questions, asking for the questions for Hillary. Spoiler alert.....those are also a threat to our democracy. thankfully the threat was squashed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 3, 2017 Assange has said numerous times to multiple people that Russia was not the Hack. Keep swingin. I also love how you goofballs are so concerned with subverting of our democracy but have no concern with the DNC planting debate questions, asking for the questions for Hillary. Spoiler alert.....those are also a threat to our democracy. You should read what he actually said vs. the actual research that points to russia. He didn't refute what the CIA and FBI has actually said. You fell for the headline just like a good little rube. He told Hannity the russian government was not his source. That is not was is alleged by our intel community. Again...the election is over...this is about a foreign government possibly trying to influence our democratic process. Not the DNC getting tips on debate questions. While that should not happen...and nobody condones it...do you think it would matter. She was going to destroy him on the issues anyway...and voters were apparently going to ignore that. One is a more serious threat to our democracy than the other. Does not seem like you can figure out which one is more serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,653 Posted January 3, 2017 You should read what he actually said vs. the actual research that points to russia. He didn't refute what the CIA and FBI has actually said. You fell for the headline just like a good little rube. He told Hannity the russian government was not his source. That is not was is alleged by our intel community. Again...the election is over...this is about a foreign government possibly trying to influence our democratic process. Not the DNC getting tips on debate questions. While that should not happen...and nobody condones it...do you think it would matter. She was going to destroy him on the issues anyway...and voters were apparently going to ignore that. One is a more serious threat to our democracy than the other. Does not seem like you can figure out which one is more serious. "She was going to destroy him on the issues"? She got tipped off before her debate with Bernie numbnuts. But good job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted January 3, 2017 Wait...so, we shouldn't believe them when they post what you just linked to? They went sensationalist...see, investigation shows it was not targeted. Thats a good thing about investigations, right? They made something up out of thin air. There was no evidence whatsoever to conclusively point to the fact that Russia was behind it. Yet they did their damage with the initial (and intentional) fear-mongering. How many people are still of the mind that Russia hacked into the electrical grid? That is some egregious "journalism". You yourself insinuated that this was an act of war. Sure you'll say no and that "in the event it was true", but make no mistake, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts you took the bait and were hooked from the initial articles (both the WaPo and the Burlington Free Press). That's not an indictment against you (ish), but an ongoing issue with the media as a whole. There's no accountability for releasing this drivel. Someone should be fired for this. Journalistic integrity has no margin for error when it comes to this type of mistake. It's hate-filled propaganda. I don't care with it's Brietbart, WaPo, NYT, RT, IB Times, or whatever. Running an article that accuses another country of this type of action better be fact-checked BEFORE publication. Not multiple days afterwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 3, 2017 They made something up out of thin air. There was no evidence whatsoever to conclusively point to the fact that Russia was behind it. Yet they did their damage with the initial (and intentional) fear-mongering. How many people are still of the mind that Russia hacked into the electrical grid? That is some egregious "journalism". You yourself insinuated that this was an act of war. Sure you'll say no and that "in the event it was true", but make no mistake, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts you took the bait and were hooked from the initial articles (both the WaPo and the Burlington Free Press). That's not an indictment against you (ish), but an ongoing issue with the media as a whole. There's no accountability for releasing this drivel. Someone should be fired for this. Journalistic integrity has no margin for error when it comes to this type of mistake. It's hate-filled propaganda. I don't care with it's Brietbart, WaPo, NYT, RT, IB Times, or whatever. Running an article that accuses another country of this type of action better be fact-checked BEFORE publication. Not multiple days afterwards. They took the report that malware was found and went over the top with it (as many some times do). It was the same code apparently as was found elsewhere tied to russsia (and yes, there is plenty of evidence tying that to russia...not vermont but the hacks in the first place). I insinuated if a foreign government attacks our utilities that it is an act of war...and I stand by that 100% The malware code was there...that has not changed. The code may not be connected to Russia and is found elsewhere. The problem seems less with reporting and more with sources. Sources tell them they found the code the government tipped them on about Russia. Do you expect journalists to sit on that and wait a week for an investigation? The WaPo went over the top fear mongering. That is true. THey did find codes used by hackers though on that laptop...that should be of a concern unrelated to russia and just an alert that we better make sure our utilities are secure. You want to fock with a country...hit their utilities or water or food supply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 3, 2017 On Assange...so, which is it, his sources are anonymous or not? http://fortune.com/2015/05/01/wikileaks-submission-site/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah like I'm gonna trust Assange on anything. Besides of course Russia uses a middle man (or three). They aren't focking stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted January 3, 2017 Lowest economic growth in American history, record number of mass shootings, record number of terrorist attacks, record number of people on food stamps, record high health insurance costs, record high national debt, worst rioting since 1967, highest poverty level in American history. And this is what "Liberals" consider a success. What a bunch of dumbfocks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 3, 2017 Lowest economic growth in American history, record number of mass shootings, record number of terrorist attacks, record number of people on food stamps, record high health insurance costs, record high national debt, worst rioting since 1967, highest poverty level in American history. And this is what "Liberals" consider a success. What a bunch of dumbfocks. And that has what to do with this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 3, 2017 And that has what to do with this thread? And isn't just full of spin anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willis McGahee's Dentist 61 Posted January 3, 2017 While you guys can argue back and forth, I think the bigger issue and the most blatant and undeniable issue Is wondering how our commander in chief Is going to work with Intelligence services that he has openly dismissed and derided. History has shown us time and time again That when The White House Ignores The smartest guys in the room Bad things happen.Same is true When the executive branch tries to bully The intelligence Community into providing Intel that agrees with their own preconceived narrative. To me, that is much more ominous And widespread than any one particular quibble. Just the very beginning of the nightmare that will be the Trump presidency. He thinks he knows more than anybody. Yet he's usually the dumbest guy in the room. He will end up firing anyone who doesn't agree with him. Buckle up and get ready for the ride. It's going to be a doozy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,642 Posted January 4, 2017 Lowest economic growth in American history, record number of mass shootings, record number of terrorist attacks, record number of people on food stamps, record high health insurance costs, record high national debt, worst rioting since 1967, highest poverty level in American history. And this is what "Liberals" consider a success. What a bunch of dumbfocks. Where are you getting this from please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,642 Posted January 4, 2017 ....And it's just been announced that yet again, Trump is NOT going to share his ultra-sooper secret knowledge of the Russian hacking - that he knows more than anyone else does. Color me MF'ing shocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 4, 2017 ....And it's just been announced that yet again, Trump is NOT going to share his ultra-sooper secret knowledge of the Russian hacking - that he knows more than anyone else does. Color me MF'ing shocked. What???! No way! Well fock me. Was he full of sh1t the whole time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,035 Posted January 4, 2017 ....And it's just been announced that yet again, Trump is NOT going to share his ultra-sooper secret knowledge of the Russian hacking - that he knows more than anyone else does. Color me MF'ing shocked. Trump will make America long for the days of honesty & integrity in our elected officials, like President Nixon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,653 Posted January 4, 2017 Trump will make America long for the days of honesty & integrity in our elected officials, like President Nixon. I did not have sex with that woman. You can keep your doctor. Let's not forget kum stained blue dresses and cigars. The good old days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 4, 2017 (CNN)A former Pentagon and CIA spokesman on Wednesday slammed Donald Trump for giving credit to WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange and warned that America will be less safe when the President-elect takes office later this month. "Let's stare this reality square in the face: PEOTUS is pro-Putin and believes Julian Assange over the @CIA. On Jan. 20 we will be less safe," tweeted George Little, who served under former President George W. Bush and President Barack Obama. Trump has repeatedly questioned and dismissed the intelligence community's conclusion that the Russian government was behind election-related hacking. Despite not trusting their findings, the intelligence community is the main body Trump will rely on for security advice as head of state. Should be disturbing to anyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted January 4, 2017 Donna Brazile fed debate questions to Hillary Clinton Should be disturbing to anyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 4, 2017 Should be disturbing to anyone Assange didn't even disagree with the CIA. The fans just take "wasn't Russian government" and say...see. Just as I said they would. The CIA and other intel sources stated a russian source...not the russian government. Putin isn't that focking stupid. That and again...why has Assange said over and over that its all anonymous and he doesn't know the sources...but now all of a sudden makes this claim? Is it because he can't piss off russia because they saved his ass? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 5, 2017 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN14P04P So...Obama gave Putin a private call...apparently as he also did with China when they were caught hacking. And evidence that Russia handed it off to a third party to give to wiki came after the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 5, 2017 Donna Brazile fed debate questions to Hillary Clinton Should be disturbing to anyone Not even close to the same ballpark. But I agree that shouldn't happen and they need to preserve the integrity of the debates 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted January 5, 2017 Not even close to the same ballpark. Agreed, it's actually worse. Countries are trying to hack each others IT infrastructure (not even the case here as this was a private server) on a daily basis. Our own Media in cahoots with one party or the other providing debate questions to sway an election is extremely troubling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted January 5, 2017 Remember not to long ago when America got caught spying on other NATO members? Dare I say our allies? Almost like we was committing espionage against our allies. Good thing they don't consider that an act of war. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted January 5, 2017 Remember not to long ago when America got caught spying on other NATO members? Dare I say our allies? Almost like we was committing espionage against our allies. Good thing they don't consider that an act of war. Who considered just the spying an act of war? Spying vs. trying to influence an election are two different things. And really...this...fed debate questions is worse is just the biggest line of BS I have heard in a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,653 Posted January 5, 2017 Remember not to long ago when America got caught spying on other NATO members? Dare I say our allies? Almost like we was committing espionage against our allies. Good thing they don't consider that an act of war. Germany, right? Yeah, I remember that shite. Merkel probably made Obama take in those refugees as punishment. Cuck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,892 Posted January 5, 2017 Cuck You're a glutton for punishment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,979 Posted January 5, 2017 Who considered just the spying an act of war? Spying vs. trying to influence an election are two different things. And really...this...fed debate questions is worse is just the biggest line of BS I have heard in a long time. This really isn't debatable. I mean, the b*tch got canned from CNN for doing it. If CNN can acknowledge the impropriety one would think you could. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 5, 2017 Agreed, it's actually worse. Countries are trying to hack each others IT infrastructure (not even the case here as this was a private server) on a daily basis. Our own Media in cahoots with one party or the other providing debate questions to sway an election is extremely troubling. Nice try to spin (why hiding behind an alias though?). But no. Foreign intervention is far, far more serious than an internal breach of media protocol. Both issues warrant attention and review like I said, but you're comparing apples and oranges here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 5, 2017 Nice try to spin (why hiding behind an alias though?). But no. Foreign intervention is far, far more serious than an internal breach of media protocol. Both issues warrant attention and review like I said, but you're comparing apples and oranges herewhat foreign intervention? Obama while awarding himself a medal yesterday claimed there were no foreign attacks on his watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
