wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 3, 2017 I'm sorry, which president was handed a memo entitled Osama bin Laden determined to strike in the US? Can't believe we're re litigating this 15 years later. If you want to go down that path let's do it. Obl openly stated that it was Reagan's non-response to Lebanon and our subsequent withdrawal months later with their tails tucked between their legs it inspired obl to attack the US on a grand scale. Do you want to blame Reagan for that too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted March 3, 2017 Not that the Trumpler Park guys will be able to read and digest this (much less accept it, BUT): When a woman comes to the police and says my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record one victim, one type of crime, one record, Klara Selin, a sociologist at the National Council for Crime Prevention in Stockholm, told BBC. In 2005, Sweden broadened its definition of rape. The word rape can since then be used to record acts which would be called assault or bodily harm in other countries, according to The Local. That led to an increase in the number of rapes reported in the country in the years following the law change. In Sweden, women are encouraged to report rape cases. It appears, The Independent writes, that it is possible that in other countries there is a far stronger stigma around reporting rape than in Sweden. In fact, rape was down 12 percent in Sweden in 2015 the year the country received a record 163 000 asylum seekers compared to 2014. In 2016 it increased again by 13 percent but was still lower than 2014. Yes or No.....have the countries that accepted Muslim refugees gotten better for the actual citizens of those countries? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted March 3, 2017 I'm sorry, which president was handed a memo entitled Osama bin Laden determined to strike in the US? Can't believe we're really getting this ship 15 years later. If you want to go down that path let's do it. Obl openly stated that it was Reagan's ###### non-response to Lebanon and our subsequent withdrawal months later with their tails tucked between their legs it inspired obl to attack the US on a grand scale. Do you want to blame Reagan for that too? Clinton had the opportunity to take him out but was too busy chasing interns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,894 Posted March 3, 2017 It's going to be really hard for Trump to improve on Obummer's record of zero major terrorist attacks on US soil, especially since Donald's policies make us less safe. I can't tell if you're joking... Pulse night club attack was a terrorist attack San Bernideno was a terrorist attack. The mall shooting was a terrorist attack etc... etc... etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 3, 2017 Yes or No.....have the countries that accepted Muslim refugees gotten better for the actual citizens of those countries?When all else fails, lower the goalposts! If that had only been the conversation from the get-go instead of making s*** up and creating entirely false authorities on the made-up b******* to back it up this wouldn't even be a conversation. All Trump had to do was say I believe that the citizens of European countries lives are worse now with refugees streaming across their borders. But instead, did you see what happened in Sweden last night? And then Bill O'Reilly making up complete b******* to back him up when he gets caught blatantly in a lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted March 3, 2017 I can't tell if you're joking... Pulse night club attack was a terrorist attack San Bernideno was a terrorist attack. The mall shooting was a terrorist attack etc... etc... etc... Yeah but those weren't major as in no one named Major was involved. Left wants to wait then blame Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted March 3, 2017 When all else fails, lower the goalposts! If that had only been the conversation from the get-go instead of making s*** up and creating entirely false authorities on the made-up b******* to back it up this wouldn't even be a conversation. Ultram had to do was say I believe that the citizens of European countries lives are worse now with refugees streaming across their borders. But instead, did you see what happened in Sweden last night? And then Bill O'Reilly making up complete b******* to back him up when he gets caught blatantly in a lie. I asked Yes or No......not for yet another rehash of your talking point. So No was the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 3, 2017 Sweden's crime rate was lower in 2016 than it was in 2015. Now let's put this to rest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted March 3, 2017 Statistics brought to you by the same ones who want tourism to Sweden to not be affected by such things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted March 3, 2017 Statistics brought to you by the same ones who want tourism to Sweden to not be affected by such things. We know, we know, we know: if it doesn't come from Spicer, Conway or Trump's Twitter feed, it didn't happen or it's all lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 3, 2017 Statistics brought to you by the same ones who want tourism to Sweden to not be affected by such things. The research that named them the 150th out of 163 countries doesn't give a rat's ass about their tourism. hth We can also reverse the rankings and call them the 14th safest out of 163. *admittedly, these rankings were before the horrible Swedish Massacre a couple of Fridays ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,288 Posted March 5, 2017 Just read that the Swedish integration minister, Ylva Johansson, was forced to apologize Saturday because she had stated that rapes had decreased in the country in the last year, when in fact they had increased by at least 13%. What is wrong with these sick liberals? Why are they lying about women getting raped? To protect who? Muslims? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,308 Posted March 5, 2017 Just read that there has literally not been a single instance of a refugee killing anyone in the US ever. Can this possibly be true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,356 Posted March 5, 2017 Just read that the Swedish integration minister, Ylva Johansson, was forced to apologize Saturday because she had stated that rapes had decreased in the country in the last year, when in fact they had increased by at least 13%. What is wrong with these sick liberals? Why are they lying about women getting raped? To protect who? Muslims? They are protecting their liberal ideologies and policies, specifically their refugee program. They won't admit their failure. They think they are good humanitarians and that idea trumps all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,316 Posted March 5, 2017 Just read that there has literally not been a single instance of a refugee killing anyone in the US ever. Can this possibly be true? not possible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,288 Posted March 6, 2017 Trump has been vindicated. The left can only misinform and manipulate statistics for so long. Now they are telling outright lies about the number of rapes in Sweden, but this leftist idiot was exposed this time. From "rapes are going" down to "sorry, they are going up by double digits" in the span of a day. Nice try sweetie. Tip of the iceberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted March 6, 2017 Trump has been vindicated. You've got 2 whoppers in this thread so far.. I hear you get a free coffee mug if you hit 3.. Check the Breitbart Twitter feed, I think you can get there by 8 Central. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,288 Posted March 6, 2017 You've got 2 whoppers in this thread so far.. I hear you get a free coffee mug if you hit 3.. Check the Breitbart Twitter feed, I think you can get there by 8 Central. Do tell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted March 6, 2017 Do tell I was going to say the same about your latest testimonial - vindicated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,288 Posted March 6, 2017 I was going to say the same about your latest testimonial - vindicated? Sure. It's been shown that sweden has a massive crime problem with its Muslim refugee population, and that swedish authorities are covering it up in most cases, and now outright lying about it. Busted. Trump was right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 6, 2017 I'm sorry, I've asked this repeatedly; Can Trump or one of his Tumpeteers please tell me what specifically happened on the specific Friday that Trump referenced specifically? Yes, I'm over-using that word for Effect. You tards tend to forget that Trump wasn't speaking in general, wasn't speaking about trends, wasn't speaking about a weighted time period in a general area with a specific crime - He mentioned a very specific fact pattern. If that can't be supported, than he (and anyone trying to assert otherwise) should just STFUP. Need me to post the focking quote in question? You know, a little while ago, they invented this cool technology wherein sounds and pictures could be captured for posterity and replayed any darn time you wanted to. Somebody should probably hip Trump up to it. It's great technology, but reallys sucks for people who want to lie and run away from the lie before there are those pesky questions and facts and whatnot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,356 Posted March 6, 2017 Trump's reference to Friday was regarding the report Fox did about refugees raping women and violently attacking people in Sweden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 6, 2017 Apparently I do... "You look at what's happening in Germany. You look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this? ...So unless Sweden is the only place Fox broadcasts.... Leader of the Free World Ladies and Gentleman. Master Communicator. SO good at Details, you wouldn't believe it! I'm probably the BEST at details!" That's another quote BTW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 6, 2017 Trump's reference to Friday was regarding the report Fox did about refugees raping women and violently attacking people in Sweden. So basically...nothing happened and he bought into whatever fox was telling him. Like he often does. And people defend and support that behavior and even think he was right...when he clearly knew nothing more than what a suspect news source told him (yet again) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,356 Posted March 6, 2017 So basically...nothing happened and he bought into whatever fox was telling him. Like he often does. And people defend and support that behavior and even think he was right...when he clearly knew nothing more than what a suspect news source told him (yet again) Why wouldn't he believe Fox? Plus, it's true. No different than you believing everything CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, The New York Times feed you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,288 Posted March 6, 2017 Apparently I do... "You look at what's happening in Germany. You look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this? ...So unless Sweden is the only place Fox broadcasts.... Leader of the Free World Ladies and Gentleman. Master Communicator. SO good at Details, you wouldn't believe it! I'm probably the BEST at details!" That's another quote BTW. You're right Wiffle, nothing happened on that Friday. Trump is a big liar. And Sweden is a Nordic paradise and the Muslim refugees are blending quite nice to form a gorgeous mosaic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 6, 2017 150th most dangerous country in the world. Out of 163. Damn refugees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 6, 2017 Why wouldn't he believe Fox? Plus, it's true. No different than you believing everything CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, The New York Times feed you. Wow..just wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 6, 2017 Why wouldn't he believe Fox? Plus, it's true. It's true that something specific happened on a specific Friday that he referenced regarding immigrants? can you believe it? Sweden! The only thing that's true from what I can tell is it's true the Trump watched something on a Friday night and apparently doesn't understand how video tape works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,288 Posted March 6, 2017 It's true that something specific happened on a specific Friday that he referenced regarding immigrants? can you believe it? Sweden! The only thing that's true from what I can tell is it's true the Trump watched something on a Friday night and apparently doesn't understand how video tape works. Yeah well, considering he stated he was referring to the program he watched the night before, a week ago, I could see why you reached that conclusion. And you're the guy telling people to keep up with the news? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 6, 2017 Yeah well, considering he stated he was referring to the program he watched the night before, a week ago, I could see why you reached that conclusion. And you're the guy telling people to keep up with the news? Junior, I actually Provided his exact quote. He didn't mention a TV show until Sweden and the rest of the world said WTF? Later. Keep up, mkay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,288 Posted March 6, 2017 Junior, I actually Provided his exact quote. He didn't mention a TV show until Sweden and the rest of the world said WTF? Later. Keep up, mkay? He said it the next morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 6, 2017 Remember that time Obama made up stats about guns getting to Mexican drug cartels through the US, and then he and holder made up a program where they forced US sellers to sell guns to the drug cartels so they could justify those made up stats ? Remember when holder didnt even recuse himself from the case. I remember les twins, wiffles and snuffles relentless criticism of those lies and schemes. It's why the fake outrage twins are taken so seriously, they have amazing credibility. Good times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,308 Posted March 6, 2017 Maybe Donald J Drumpf should take a breath before rushing to Twitter to comment on whatever program or article he happened to see? His erratic, unpredictable shoot from the hip style is pretty much the opposite of thoughtful leadership. Just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 6, 2017 Remember that time Obama made up stats about guns getting to Mexican drug cartels through the US, and then he and holder made up a program where they forced US sellers to sell guns to the drug cartels so they could justify those made up stats ? Remember when holder didnt even recuse himself from the case. I remember les twins, wiffles and snuffles relentless criticism of those lies and schemes. It's why the fake outrage twins are taken so seriously, they have amazing credibility. Good times No...I don't remember them making up a program. Because anyone who knows the facts know they did t make it up. You don't seem to ever understand any single topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted March 6, 2017 Sure. It's been shown that sweden has a massive crime problem with its Muslim refugee population, and that swedish authorities are covering it up in most cases, and now outright lying about it. Busted. Trump was right. Sorry - Trump Tweets and Breitbart claims aren't going to cut it.. I know Trump Tweets are the Holy Grail to the Right - but you're going to have to do better... And no, a note from Spicer isn't good enuff either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 6, 2017 Sorry - Trump Tweets and Breitbart claims aren't going to cut it.. I know Trump Tweets are the Holy Grail to the Right - but you're going to have to do better... And no, a note from Spicer isn't good enuff either. Have you ever seen a bunch of pathetic sheep who seem to have forgotten how to think and use logic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted March 6, 2017 Have you ever seen a bunch of pathetic sheep who seem to have forgotten how to think and use logic? Our universities and other bodies of higher education are going to have to start teaching 'Alternative' logic... Otherwise - nobody will ever be able to make sense of what this administration is talking about. .. Forget 'If you build it, they will come' - the new catch phrase is 'If you Tweet it, it will be true'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,356 Posted March 6, 2017 Obama is a Muslim from Kenya and said he visited 57 states in the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,288 Posted March 6, 2017 Sorry - Trump Tweets and Breitbart claims aren't going to cut it.. I know Trump Tweets are the Holy Grail to the Right - but you're going to have to do better... And no, a note from Spicer isn't good enuff either. I provided the name of the Swedish migration minister who was shown to be lying about he rape stats. I don't know what else you need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
