Cdub100 3,384 Posted March 4, 2017 WOW! It's about to go down. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-administration-wiretapping-trump-tower-phones.html "I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!" - POTUS "How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" - POTUS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted March 4, 2017 Lemme guess....theyll defend it by saying they could bc of russia 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted March 4, 2017 Sessions has to start indicting some underlings in the Obama administration and offering immunity. Get the ball rolling on exposing and prosecuting those further up the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted March 4, 2017 Trump "alleges", Trump "does not specify how", "Fox News"... Shocking I tell you, shocking! : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted March 4, 2017 Trump favorite recipe, one part fact, add indignation, spin, and sympathetic website and you get fake news. Serve to base, they eat it all up every day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 646 Posted March 4, 2017 Well, that's one way to get the focus off of Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted March 4, 2017 Lol. Trump thinks this nonsense will get investigators off his back about the Russia think. He seriously has the mind of a nine-year-old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted March 4, 2017 Lol. Trump thinks this nonsense will get investigators off his back about the Russia think. He seriously has the mind of a nine-year-old. First Sweden, now wire tapping... Bigfoot, get ready - you're up next. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted March 4, 2017 Geraldo Rivera said it was legal on Fox News this morning. That station is real news, so I guess it wasn't illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted March 4, 2017 Now that trump has access to top secret information i tend to give this a bit of credibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,646 Posted March 4, 2017 Trump "alleges", Trump "does not specify how", "Fox News"... Shocking I tell you, shocking! : I'm sure he'll give us details on 'Tuesday, maybe Wednesday.' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,646 Posted March 4, 2017 Now that trump has access to top secret information i tend to give this a bit of credibility. He had the same access 4 his hacking comment that he never proved. He had the same access for his Sweden comment that he had to walk away from. Want me to continue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted March 4, 2017 I just find it hilarious that when enough staff members get in Trump's ear and convince him not to act like a retard and strictly read a speech off of a monitor that someone else wrote, he can actually come off as a little bit presidential. For one night. There was a part of me that was hoping that he actually enjoyed the good response from both sides of the aisle and he would take a little something away from it. But not surprisingly, he's right back to being a divisive, lying jackass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted March 4, 2017 I just find it hilarious that when enough staff members get in Trump's ear and convince him not to act like a retard and strictly read a speech off of a monitor that someone else wrote, he can actually come off as a little bit presidential. For one night. There was a part of me that was hoping that he actually enjoyed the good response from both sides of the aisle and he would take a little something away from it. But not surprisingly, he's right back to being a divisive, lying jackass. Hes lying about this? Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted March 4, 2017 Hes lying about this? Link? Fox's own article clearly states Trump "alleges" and "does not specify how" - but you want people here to provide you a link? Here's an idea, and I know it's out there - but how about the one making the claim (i.e. the Prez) providing a link? How about the accuser providing proof? How about the news outlet reporting the story actually providing a link to substantiate these allegations? I know - it's a lot to ask, much easier to ask someone here to provide a link to prove the Prez isn't lying than the Prez himself.. I mean after all, he Tweeted it, it has to be true.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted March 4, 2017 He had the same access 4 his hacking comment that he never proved. He had the same access for his Sweden comment that he had to walk away from. Want me to continue? This one is different. He is directly calling out Obama doing something illegal. IMO the allegation is possible. However, it could have been legal. If they legally listened to Trump's phones as a part of an investigation into Russian hacking and found nothing, they are toast. The dots connect, as they were so sure of a link. Could be why Obama has been so mum on the subject when his party has been going nuts about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted March 4, 2017 Whats the problem? He has had our phones tapped for years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted March 4, 2017 Fox's own article clearly states Trump "alleges" and "does not specify how" - but you want people here to provide you a link? Here's an idea, and I know it's out there - but how about the one making the claim (i.e. the Prez) providing a link? How about the accuser providing proof? How about the news outlet reporting the story actually providing a link to substantiate these allegations? I know - it's a lot to ask, much easier to ask someone here to provide a link to prove the Prez isn't lying than the Prez himself.. I mean after all, he Tweeted it, it has to be true.... The "proof" could be top secret and Trump is baiting Obama to deny it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted March 4, 2017 Fox's own article clearly states Trump "alleges" and "does not specify how" - but you want people here to provide you a link? Here's an idea, and I know it's out there - but how about the one making the claim (i.e. the Prez) providing a link? How about the accuser providing proof? How about the news outlet reporting the story actually providing a link to substantiate these allegations? I know - it's a lot to ask, much easier to ask someone here to provide a link to prove the Prez isn't lying than the Prez himself.. I mean after all, he Tweeted it, it has to be true.... He unequivocally said hes lying. Im guessing he didnt trot this out there...just for fun. Maybe trump proves it, maybe he doesnt...im not the one who said its true or false.So if yam head says hes lying....prove it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted March 4, 2017 The "proof" could be top secret and Trump is baiting Obama to deny it. There could be 5 legged monkeys on Mars.. When someone finds actual proof - then it will be a story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,646 Posted March 4, 2017 I hate to mess up a perfectly good line of b******* with you know truth and facts and what not, but the president himself can't order a wiretap. If and this is a big if Trump was wiretapped, he is stating for the record that he show probable cause for a judge and the court system to authorize a wiretap. Just proves that Trump still hasn't learned that president does not equal King. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,895 Posted March 4, 2017 I hope Trump goes to jail for falsely reporting a crime. He'd be sold for a pack of smokes in 10 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted March 4, 2017 Now that trump has access to top secret information i tend to give this a bit of credibility. He was referencing a Breitbart article discussing a Mark Levin broadcast. He has no proof of what he's alleging....or at least hasn't offered any. I think he spends more time watching Fox and Friends than looking at top secret information. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,646 Posted March 4, 2017 I'm sure Trump will immediately authorize a special investigation to look into this just like he said he would but actually didn't with the three million illegal voters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted March 4, 2017 He unequivocally said hes lying. Im guessing he didnt trot this out there...just for fun. Maybe trump proves it, maybe he doesnt...im not the one who said its true or false. So if yam head says hes lying....prove it. Until Trump, Fox or somebody else provides proof - there's no way of knowing, he could be lying. Trump doesn't want to provide proof, nobody else should be expected to either... Unless this is another one of those ' Do as I say, not as I do' things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted March 4, 2017 Here's my unbiased opinion on it. I have no doubts that he got tapped and that Obama was behind it. However under the pretty broad stroke of the NSA I think he's allowed to with the potential speaking with Russia. So the left will hide behind that and technically they will be right. But so will trump. It's pretty slimy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted March 4, 2017 Here's my unbiased opinion on it. I have no doubts that he got tapped and that Obama was behind it. However under the pretty broad stroke of the NSA I think he's allowed to with the potential speaking with Russia. So the left will hide behind that and technically they will be right. But so will trump. It's pretty slimy Thank god that wasn't biased or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,646 Posted March 4, 2017 The "proof" could be top secret and Trump is baiting Obama to deny it. And of course, it is just coincidence that Trump just found out about this shortly after Breitbart published this article? Trump is too busy to attend national security briefings, but has plenty of time to read Breitbart and then talk about it on Fox and Friends? Fantastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted March 4, 2017 Thank god that wasn't biased or anything. Meh..think either side tapping a phone of an opponent is slimy....by all means explain how its not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted March 4, 2017 The "proof" could be top secret and Trump is baiting Obama to deny it. Does President Trump think Obama is 12? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted March 4, 2017 Hes lying about this? Link? you want me to supply a link that it didn't happen? ROFL this ass hole president is throwing out allegations and presenting them as facts without an ounce of proof. How many times does he have to do this before you understand that he's a focking ? How is it that previously intelligent people suddenly became so God damn stupid when they started admiring Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted March 4, 2017 you want me to supply a link that it didn't happen? ROFL this ass hole president is throwing out allegations and presenting them as facts without an ounce of proof. How many times does he have to do this before you understand that he's a focking ######? How is it that previously intelligent people suddenly became so God damn stupid when they started admiring Trump? So you're just talking out of your ass? Okay got it. I'm not saying it did or did not happen positively or negatively. I have a hunch it probably did happen. I'd actually be surprised if it didn't happen. You however are claiming he's lying without a doubt. But you can't back it up again. Sort of like when I asked about Obama's policy that boosted the market. Just ass talking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted March 4, 2017 So you're just talking out of your ass? Okay got it. I'm not saying it did or did not happen positively or negatively. I have a hunch it probably did happen. I'd actually be surprised if it didn't happen. You however are claiming he's lying without a doubt. But you can't back it up again. Sort of like when I asked about Obama's policy that boosted the market. Just ass talking. you do understand that Trump uses his Twitter account to make unofficial announcements to push his own agenda right? Like when he said that he had the most electoral votes since Reagan. And he said we had the worst crime rate in 2016 then we've had in the last 48 years. He just totally makes up whatever he wants. You don't find the timing of this a little suspicious? Six members of his staff now have been accused of meeting with the Russians while Obama was still in office. He is under extreme heat right now. They are getting to the bottom of this fast and he is in desperation mode to deflect. Just for 10 minutes, pretend you're not a righty hack and use your head. Pretend this is Obama or Hillary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,895 Posted March 4, 2017 This is how the WH deals with crises: Through a series of angry tweets in the middle of the night? Doesn't give me a whole ton of confidence in the POTUS. Neither does the fact that he sent these tweets while on vacation in Florida. Who goes on vacation 2 months after assuming a job? Especially one they are utterly unqualified to do? What a total embarrassment this guy is. You'd have to be a total fvcking rube to be proud f voting for this clown. He's going to get people killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted March 4, 2017 you do understand that Trump uses his Twitter account to make unofficial announcements to push his own agenda right? Like when he said that he had the most electoral votes since Reagan. And he said we had the worst crime rate in 2016 then we've had in the last 48 years. He just totally makes up whatever he wants. You don't find the timing of this a little suspicious? Six members of his staff now have been accused of meeting with the Russians while Obama was still in office. He is under extreme heat right now. They are getting to the bottom of this fast and he is in desperation mode to deflect. Just for 10 minutes, pretend you're not a righty hack and use your head. Pretend this is Obama or Hillary. If trump was prez and we had the same issue with russia to whatever extent we each chose that to be... I would be shocked if he didn't have their phones tapped. It's still pretty slimy though. For calling People partisan hacks you guys sure fall on the side of the left pretty much a hundred percent of the time. You can't even say and having his phone is slimy period not one of you have said that. Just saying that trumps line. But we are the partisan hacks? Sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted March 4, 2017 So you're just talking out of your ass? Okay got it. I'm not saying it did or did not happen positively or negatively. I have a hunch it probably did happen. I'd actually be surprised if it didn't happen. You however are claiming he's lying without a doubt. But you can't back it up again. Sort of like when I asked about Obama's policy that boosted the market. Just ass talking. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me, Continue to be fooled, you are a Trump supporter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted March 4, 2017 If trump was prez and we had the same issue with russia to whatever extent we each chose that to be... I would be shocked if he didn't have their phones tapped. It's still pretty slimy though. For calling People partisan hacks you guys sure fall on the side of the left pretty much a hundred percent of the time. You can't even say and having his phone is slimy period not one of you have said that. Just saying that trumps line. But we are the partisan hacks? Sure. Fine, IF a sitting president had his political opponents phones tapped, it's slimy. Believing a guy who lies more than a rug, just because he says something makes you a hack. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted March 4, 2017 Fine, IF a sitting president had his political opponents phones tapped, it's slimy. Believing a guy who lies more than a rug, just because he says something makes you a hack. HTH. Didn't say I believed him. I just said if you're going to say he's lying then you should prove it. I believe he probably had his phone tapped but I doubt he's going to be able to prove that Obama ordered it. That's pretty much where we are at Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted March 4, 2017 Here's my unbiased opinion on it. I have no doubts that he got tapped and that Obama was behind it. However under the pretty broad stroke of the NSA I think he's allowed to with the potential speaking with Russia. So the left will hide behind that and technically they will be right. But so will trump. It's pretty slimy Didn't say I believed him. I just said if you're going to say he's lying then you should prove it. I believe he probably had his phone tapped but I doubt he's going to be able to prove that Obama ordered it. That's pretty much where we are at Truly, you are a Trump's dream voter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted March 4, 2017 Truly, you are a Trump's dream voter. Winner? Yep thanks. How'd your horse do loser? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites