titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted September 20, 2017 I think we established it isnt Eli. Ill go with William the refrigerator Perry. Never really did crap. Was a walking gimmick. But he stuck in NFL lore forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,337 Posted September 20, 2017 Joe Montana Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted September 20, 2017 Joe Namath. If not most overrated, at least he is one of the worst HOF'ers of all time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted September 20, 2017 Eli Manning Peyton Manning Herschel Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted September 20, 2017 Joe Namath. If not most overrated, at least he is one of the worst HOF'ers of all time This is the answer. No need for any more replies. #Blessed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted September 20, 2017 Obvious answer joe Namath, but I'll also throw in terry Bradshaw for consideration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,892 Posted September 20, 2017 Maybe not #1 but I'd like to add Jim McMahon and Brian Bosworth to the conversation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted September 20, 2017 Marino, Elway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 Has to be Gronk. They never seem to miss a beat without him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted September 20, 2017 Has to be Gronk. They never seem to miss a beat without him. If Marino and Elway, sure why not? I'd say Jerry Rice too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 If Marino and Elway, sure why not? I'd say Jerry Rice too Aren't you the guy who said Peyton Manning? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted September 20, 2017 Aren't you the guy who said Peyton Manning? 9 times 1 and done in the playoffs. No one has done less with more than Peyton. sorry do you know what overrated even means? have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved. Anyone (me) saying he wasn't good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 9 times 1 and done in the playoffs. No one has done less with more than Peyton. sorry do you know what overrated even means? Anyone (me) saying he wasn't good? So he's not the second greatest QB of his era? More with less? He had to overcome Dungy and his usually horrible defense. Get a clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted September 20, 2017 So he's not the second greatest QB of his era? More with less? He had to overcome Dungy and his usually horrible defense. Get a clue. NINE 1 and dones scored over 18 twice. you're blaming the DEFENSE Talk about clueless. 1999 L 16-19 2000 L 17-23 2002 L 0-41 2005 L 18-21 2007 L 24-28 2008 L 17-23 2010 L 16-17 2012 L 35-38 2014 L 13-24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 Who is P Manning being rated over? If he's overrated, who's getting the snub? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted September 20, 2017 have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved. This thread isn't a list of the best QBs of the era It's OVERRATED. Jeter Eli Peyton all rank high Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 Shinebox alert: Patriots without Gronk 14-5. And I'm betting a couple of those games were basically forfeits at the end of the season. 4-2 in the playoffs. I like my shoes to have a high gloss shine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TommyGavin 788 Posted September 20, 2017 Obvious answer joe Namath. I want to kiss you right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,145 Posted September 20, 2017 The two most overrated moments are Namath's guarantee (he didn't really make a guarantee and was just responding to reporters) and Elway's helicopter play (wow, he ran for a 1st down and didn't fumble). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted September 20, 2017 Shinebox alert: Patriots without Gronk 14-5. And I'm betting a couple of those games were basically forfeits at the end of the season. 4-2 in the playoffs. I like my shoes to have a high gloss shine. They are what, 13 and 6 without Brady? Another overrated stiff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted September 20, 2017 The two most overrated moments are Namath's guarantee (he didn't really make a guarantee and was just responding to reporters) and Elway's helicopter play (wow, he ran for a 1st down and didn't fumble). Most overrated play in football history, any level. NFL owners are that dumb. Draft a guy #1 overall for 1 hit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 Joe Namath was the firrst QB to throw for 4K yards. In 1967, 14 game schedule. Just sayin. He is overrated, just not the most overrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted September 20, 2017 Joe Namath was the firrst QB to throw for 4K yards. In 1967, 14 game schedule. Just sayin. He is overrated, just not the most overrated. It's all the off the field sh1t that makes him overrated and the fact he's in the HOF is a joke. in all seriousness, who is your answer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 It's all the off the field sh1t that makes him overrated and the fact he's in the HOF is a joke. in all seriousness, who is your answer? I'd have to think about it, but off the top of my head, and only using players who are considered great, I'd have to say Barry Sanders. Jason Witten will get in the hall because defenses didn't bother covering him. Drew Brees. Bettis might be the answer though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted September 20, 2017 I'd have to think about it, but off the top of my head, and only using players who are considered great, I'd have to say Barry Sanders. Jason Witten will get in the hall because defenses didn't bother covering him. Drew Brees. There are so many. Tony Romo Herschel Walker Jerome Bettis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted September 20, 2017 Barry sanders? Jesus Christ.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted September 20, 2017 Barry sanders? Jesus Christ.. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 Barry sanders? Jesus Christ.. Too many negative plays, didn't block or catch, came out at the goal line. No thanks. Great fantasy player though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted September 20, 2017 Too many negative plays, didn't block or catch, came out at the goal line. No thanks. Great fantasy player though. He averaged more catches per game than Smiff did in his career. But the narrative is Smiff is some complete back and Barry couldn't catch a cold. Lets not review facts though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted September 20, 2017 Bo Jackson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 He averaged more catches per game than Smiff did in his career. But the narrative is Smiff is some complete back and Barry couldn't catch a cold. Lets not review facts though. Smiths team was winning most of the time. Those teams tend to throw less Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted September 20, 2017 Smiths team was winning most of the time. Those teams tend to throw less So lets just put down every great player who hasn't won a ring in the overrated section. Should make this thread easy. Barry's worst YPC average for a year (4.3) is higher than Smiff's career average of 4.2. Smiffs career yards per reception 6.3 to Barry's 8.3. The guy only ran laps around him in the pure ability to gain yards on a worse team but no way is he a better player than Smiff. Smiff was a tough MFer that is for sure. But Barry was clearly the more talented RB. I have already been over this before here where the stats and actual history of it is different than the easy label of "oh barry didn't catch" "oh barry came out at the GL" "barry went backwards" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,037 Posted September 20, 2017 He averaged more catches per game than Smiff did in his career. But the narrative is Smiff is some complete back and Barry couldn't catch a cold. Lets not review facts though. Not sure about coming out at the goal line either, he had 99 career rushing TD's. And even if he did come out at the goal line, if Sanders got you 80 yards of the drive but not the last one,does it matter who scored the TD,. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,656 Posted September 20, 2017 So lets just put down every great player who hasn't won a ring in the overrated section. Should make this thread easy. Barry's worst YPC average for a year (4.3) is higher than Smiff's career average of 4.2. Smiffs career yards per reception 6.3 to Barry's 8.3. The guy only ran laps around him in the pure ability to gain yards on a worse team but no way is he a better player than Smiff. Smiff was a tough MFer that is for sure. But Barry was clearly the more talented RB. I have already been over this before here where the stats and actual history of it is different than the easy label of "oh barry didn't catch" "oh barry came out at the GL" "barry went backwards" I said Bettis and Brees. Both have rings. I watched Barry play his whole career. He came off the field a lot when his team was in passing situations. You know, when blocking and catching were needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TommyGavin 788 Posted September 20, 2017 Deion Sanders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted September 20, 2017 And I'm not trying to say Emmitt sucked or is big time overrated. I think enough people sour on him that he is not overrated. Of course his career accomplishments and wins are better than anyones. But Barry is the Randy Moss of the RB position. I'm not sure if Emmitt is the Jerry Rice however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites