listen2me 23 1,965 Posted October 26, 2017 I had a 4.2 GPA and a 1320 SAT in HS and didn't get into UCSD my friend had a 3.3 and 1150 and did This is actually a good point. Around here it is seen a lot with Native Americans. Cuse is a fairly popular school for Native Americans. And very average students will get in while better white students may not. I get that universities want to diversify and I am not familiar with it but do they get some sort of financial gain for doing this as well? But it is totally ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,084 Posted October 26, 2017 You mean like you do at night when you think about how daddy never hugged you? I bet they spit a lugey into your food and laughed when you ate it too, dummy. Seems like people hate you on sight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted October 26, 2017 I bet they spit a lugey into your food and laughed when you ate it too, dummy. Seems like people hate you on sight.I bet your dad wishes he jerked off in a stream instead of having a doosh like you. Poor MDC never got hug from daddy! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 26, 2017 It makes worms comment all the more absurd.. We simply have no clue when attempting to judge other people's life experiences. I am having trouble picking out which comment you're referencing. I find nearly every Worms comment absurd. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 26, 2017 This is actually a good point. Around here it is seen a lot with Native Americans. Cuse is a fairly popular school for Native Americans. And very average students will get in while better white students may not. I get that universities want to diversify and I am not familiar with it but do they get some sort of financial gain for doing this as well? But it is totally ridiculous. Welcome to Social Justice. Happened to my daughter @ UW-Madison, though it was overcome. She's a brilliant student who passed on many athletic and academic scholarships - from full rides to 50% - to attend Madison to study Actuarial Science. She's never gotten anything less than an A, and that's from kindergarten on. She got a 34 on the ACT in her first and only try; a 36 in Math. She applied for 'direct admit' into the UW School of business, and was denied. We saw the list of the others who were approved. It was the United Nations of diversity, and most of them had inferior resumes. She was accepted as a sophomore, so not really damaging (I guess you have to be accepted by sophomore year, or you have to adjust your major). She's had her first Actuarial exam (I think there are 9?) and passed, and has been interviewing with different firms for a summer internship position. Every single firm which interviewed her offered an internship. She accepted the one she wanted most: Northwestern Mutual Life (partly because they're close to home, and partly because their facilities and internship program are phenomenal. Their building downtown Milwaukee is incredible). Point is: excellence eventually wins. The problem is on the margins. Many lose, and do so because of the color of skin. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 26, 2017 I bet they spit a lugey into your food and laughed when you ate it too, dummy. Seems like people hate you on sight. Stop slapfighting. Why are you in so many slapflights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,084 Posted October 26, 2017 Stop slapfighting. Why are you in so many slapflights? Triggered! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 26, 2017 Triggered! Triggered! Bahahahahahaha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 872 Posted October 26, 2017 As a white male I can't point to any specific example of discrimination I've faced, which is not to say it hasn't happened, just that I am unaware of it. Unless you count stuff like standing on a subway in Dubai and getting the stink eye from locals because some white folks are in their space. Plus they could see my wife's ankles, the horror$#@! That being said, I work in an engineering environment bubble. 98% of the people I encounter are white, asian, or Indian. Mostly male, except for non-engineering roles which are mostly female to balance things out. Out of college I was on a rotation program with about 25 other new grads; one was a black woman from an obscure college. She was a turrble engineer and seemingly unmotivated employee in general. But we knew they would never fire her because she checked so many boxes. Also some capable engineer wasn't hired so that they could hire her instead. its not her fault that all the required mathematics are inherently racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 26, 2017 This is flat-out racism. It cannot be defended.Did he mention the guy's race? Was there an interview involved? Is it possible getting into UCSD involves more than just GPA and test scores - excluding race? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 26, 2017 Come stay in Atlanta a bit. I grew up in Atlanta and never noticed it. Unlike the anti-Black sentiment, which was ubiquitous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,084 Posted October 26, 2017 Did he mention the guy's race? Was there an interview involved? Is it possible getting into UCSD involves more than just GPA and test scores - excluding race? Youre doing this wrong. Were supposed to draw a conclusion without knowing all the facts and then fiercely defend it no matter what. Its the Geek club way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 26, 2017 Youre doing this wrong. Were supposed to draw a conclusion without knowing all the facts and then fiercely defend it no matter what. Its the Geek club way. Judging by their posts, I can imagine how poorly some of these dipsh!ts interview. Having written and read a few letters of recommendation, I'm well aware how "damning with faint praise" can sink an otherwise qualified applicant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 26, 2017 I've told this story before. It took Time Warner forever to hire me. To the point that I had damn near forgotten about it and wrote it off. Then suddenly out of the blue they hired me. Months later as me and my boss got more comfortable I asked her what the hell? Even though I was Far and Away the most qualified, she had to go through multiple levels of management in order to hire me over a far less qualified black woman because the dept already had quote too many whites. Doesn't get much clearer than that. Prime example. I wish we saw this concise wiff more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 26, 2017 I grew up in Atlanta and never noticed it. Unlike the anti-Black sentiment, which was ubiquitous. I grew up in Pittsburgh before moving to Atlanta and saw it more here in the south. There is anti-black sentiment in both places but up there we stuck to our sides of Pittsburgh. I grew up on the South Side and knew not to let the sun set on you in the North side. Here in Atlanta, I see more angry blacks now than I've ever seen. Times may be different but I study people....helps with my job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 26, 2017 Judging by their posts, I can imagine how poorly some of these dipsh!ts interview. Having written and read a few letters of recommendation, I'm well aware how "damning with faint praise" can sink an otherwise qualified applicant. Yes, I can imagine how a letter of recommendation from an assistant manager at a Kinko's who drives a $12,000 car would move mountains! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the s is ilent 69 Posted October 27, 2017 A black dude sold me a bag of oregano for my first drug deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,579 Posted October 27, 2017 Did he mention the guy's race? Was there an interview involved? Is it possible getting into UCSD involves more than just GPA and test scores - excluding race? I was waiting for this I am as white as it can get My good friend was just as white but his mom was Hispanic. His last name was Ryan but he was able to check the box and that's what mattered. I finished 8th in my class he finished around 120. I was involved I sports every season all 4 year was a member of the asb and key club. He ran cross country his senior year only I got a form letter with application denied he got accepted. There were no interviews nothing as a matter of fact we even did the app together Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,774 Posted October 27, 2017 I was waiting for this I am as white as it can get My good friend was just as white but his mom was Hispanic. His last name was Ryan but he was able to check the box and that's what mattered. I finished 8th in my class he finished around 120. I was involved I sports every season all 4 year was a member of the asb and key club. He ran cross country his senior year only I got a form letter with application denied he got accepted. There were no interviews nothing as a matter of fact we even did the app together were his kneepads more worn in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,192 Posted October 27, 2017 I was waiting for this I am as white as it can get My good friend was just as white but his mom was Hispanic. His last name was Ryan but he was able to check the box and that's what mattered. I finished 8th in my class he finished around 120. I was involved I sports every season all 4 year was a member of the asb and key club. He ran cross country his senior year only I got a form letter with application denied he got accepted. There were no interviews nothing as a matter of fact we even did the app together I'm not questioning you per se but... 4.2 GPA and 1320 SAT and you don't get into a state school when you are a resident? Is UCSD #1 in something that everyone majors in? I've never heard of it in STEM/engineering circles, so maybe something else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,774 Posted October 27, 2017 edit: We have two state systems for education: University of California, and State Universities UCSD (UC in general) is tougher to get into, though he should have gotten in. SDSU is easier. similar to UCSF vs SFSU, etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 27, 2017 I'm not questioning you per se but... 4.2 GPA and 1320 SAT and you don't get into a state school when you are a resident? Is UCSD #1 in something that everyone majors in? I've never heard of it in STEM/engineering circles, so maybe something else? Yeah hes a total liar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,543 Posted October 27, 2017 I was waiting for this I am as white as it can get My good friend was just as white but his mom was Hispanic. His last name was Ryan but he was able to check the box and that's what mattered. I finished 8th in my class he finished around 120. I was involved I sports every season all 4 year was a member of the asb and key club. He ran cross country his senior year only I got a form letter with application denied he got accepted. There were no interviews nothing as a matter of fact we even did the app together Maybe his app had commas and conjunctions when needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,579 Posted October 27, 2017 I'm not questioning you per se but... 4.2 GPA and 1320 SAT and you don't get into a state school when you are a resident? Is UCSD #1 in something that everyone majors in? I've never heard of it in STEM/engineering circles, so maybe something else? Not a state school Fwiw I was accepted to Harvey Mudd and along with my denial letter from UCSD was an alternative acceptance to UC Davis. I was also accepted as an alternate at Princeton(I would have to go thru interviews and such or could start second semester) Now maybe just maybe my SAT had a lot to do with things. I scored an 800 on math and a 520 and was poor in English based courses my only Bs were in English Anyways I was also accepted to SDSU and Long Beach state and was able to play baseball in college instead of attending a real school. I also got heavy into gambling and pretty much was done after my freshman year Also I don't remember if the applications included anything about majors or not it was 25 yrs ago but that might have something to do with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,192 Posted October 27, 2017 Not a state school Please help me understand this. The University of California, San Diego (officially known as the University of California San Diego with no comma or UC San Diego—no longer UCSD because the acronym is similar to that of other San Diego higher education institutions)[11] is a public research university located in the La Jolla neighborhood of San Diego, California, in the United States Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,579 Posted October 27, 2017 Please help me understand this. Honestly no clue then. I know it was 15-20k a semester when I was in school. Always thought the UC system was a private school system. I guess it's just a higher education school than your sdsu Fresno state etc Is UCLA a public school? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,192 Posted October 27, 2017 Honestly no clue then. I know it was 15-20k a semester when I was in school. Always thought the UC system was a private school system. I guess it's just a higher education school than your sdsu Fresno state etc Is UCLA a public school? UC is a public system of California including UCLA and Cal Berkeley. Cali is large enough that they can have more exclusive satellites like those. I suppose UCSD could be similar but regardless, it is hard to imaging a state university not admitting a kid with your scores. Again, not saying you are lying, but more that their system is broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,579 Posted October 27, 2017 UC is a public system of California including UCLA and Cal Berkeley. Cali is large enough that they can have more exclusive satellites like those. I suppose UCSD could be similar but regardless, it is hard to imaging a state university not admitting a kid with your scores. Again, not saying you are lying, but more that their system is broken. yah its part of the Cal system so they are all public funded. I am thinking major and minority status played in the role, though, Like I said I was accepted to another UC school without applying, and maybe its because I was going into engineering, and UCSD as a predominantly medical/chemistry school. My friend was going pre-med but yah it was a long ass time ago, 25+ years, so I am fuzzy, I do know that I had a 4.2 and 1320, and I do know which schools I was and wasn't accepted too quite frankly Harvey Mudd is a far more prestigious engineering school Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 27, 2017 Yes, I can imagine how a letter of recommendation from an assistant manager at a Kinko's who drives a $12,000 car would move mountains! Thanks. It's all in the font. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 2,005 Posted October 27, 2017 If you have to scroll through years of your life to think of ways you've been discriminated against and can only pull out not getting into the University of Wisconsin or University of California, Davis and not getting a promotion, your life has been a bed of roses. UW has a black student body of 2% to 5%. Being rejected had nothing to do with blacks. UC Davis is 3% black and California banned Affirmative Action in all state schools. I don't have to search for a story but rather reflect upon my day: I was in a group of about 15 people being shown a new piece of equipment in a core facility that produces peptides and oligonucleotudes (pieces of DNA). In the groups of us you are most likely a scientist but maybe some other curious staff member will be interested. The person showing the equipment says to me, "But you probably won't ever order peptides." I responded, "Actually, I put in an order of peptides yesterday." No, harm. But the bias is that I'm a black woman so clearly not a scientist. I must be a secretary. Ironically, the nicely dressed white older man next to me was the head of the cleaning crew who prepped the room, but he was assumed to be a scientist, lol. I live in Atlanta. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 2,005 Posted October 27, 2017 White kid in an all poor black school will have it hard, no doubt. You have to be really aware of who you are or be really down in order to get by. If you're a white girl, you need to be able to defend yourself correctly. The most popular girl in my all black middle school was white. Why? Because she was cute, minded her business and could kick ass. She didn't try to talk black. Funny thing, her Dad was racist! You couldn't come to their house if you were black. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 27, 2017 White kid in an all poor black school will have it hard, no doubt. You have to be really aware of who you are or be really down in order to get by. If you're a white girl, you need to be able to defend yourself correctly. The most popular girl in my all black middle school was white. Why? Because she was cute, minded her business and could kick ass. She didn't try to talk black. Funny thing, her Dad was racist! You couldn't come to their house if you were black. So you're okay with physically intimidating members of another race? That's essentially what you're inferring there. Also, you're acknowledging a violence aspect in regard to blacks that others here have pointed out before in other threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 27, 2017 UC is a public system of California including UCLA and Cal Berkeley. Cali is large enough that they can have more exclusive satellites like those. I suppose UCSD could be similar but regardless, it is hard to imaging a state university not admitting a kid with your scores. Again, not saying you are lying, but more that their system is broken. Hes lying. Ill say it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 27, 2017 So you're okay with physically intimidating members of another race? That's essentially what you're inferring there. Also, you're acknowledging a violence aspect in regard to blacks that others here have pointed out before in other threads. Your second paragraph would make a Klansman blush Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 27, 2017 Your second paragraph would make a Klansman blush Go back and read (try to comprehend what she's saying) what she posted. White girl better know how to take care of herself..... so she should anticipate being physically assaulted because of the color of her skin. Now imagine peenie goes to Martha's Vineyard High school and is told you better know how to fight. You can't see peenie and yourself are hypocritical? There is racism on both sides but one gets away with being violent while the other doesn't. Hold everyone to the same standard in society if you want racism to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 27, 2017 If you have to scroll through years of your life to think of ways you've been discriminated against and can only pull out not getting into the University of Wisconsin or University of California, Davis and not getting a promotion, your life has been a bed of roses. False premise. That was only the most recent example of note - at least for me. UW has a black student body of 2% to 5%. Being rejected had nothing to do with blacks. How do you figure? If the SJW's at UW really desire a 'more diverse' student body, the type of stat you cite would have everything to do with reasons a 'white' would be passed over. UC Davis is 3% black and California banned Affirmative Action in all state schools. Banning something, and stopping SJW AA are two different things. Sanctuary cities are now not allowed, but that doesn't appear to be stopping SJWs, right? I don't have to search for a story but rather reflect upon my day: I was in a group of about 15 people being shown a new piece of equipment in a core facility that produces peptides and oligonucleotudes (pieces of DNA). In the groups of us you are most likely a scientist but maybe some other curious staff member will be interested. The person showing the equipment says to me, "But you probably won't ever order peptides." I responded, "Actually, I put in an order of peptides yesterday." No, harm. But the bias is that I'm a black woman so clearly not a scientist. I must be a secretary. Ironically, the nicely dressed white older man next to me was the head of the cleaning crew who prepped the room, but he was assumed to be a scientist, lol. I live in Atlanta. I cannot comment on your anecdote of the day, but there are a lot of reasons someone could have said that, not the least of which was a simple misunderstanding of what it is your lab does. It could have been a simple presumption, not racist at all. I think when you decide that you're really sensitive, you'll feel everything, and react accordingly. If you think your anecdote supports the notion of racism, then I would suggest to you that we've licked this issue nearly completely in your life. Did the guy respond to your answer by scoffing something like "yeah. Riiiight."? Probably not. The person was probably - at worst - definitely embarrassed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 27, 2017 Go back and read (try to comprehend what she's saying) what she posted. White girl better know how to take care of herself..... so she should anticipate being physically assaulted because of the color of her skin. Now imagine peenie goes to Martha's Vineyard High school and is told you better know how to fight. You can't see peenie and yourself are hypocritical? There is racism on both sides but one gets away with being violent while the other doesn't. Hold everyone to the same standard in society if you want racism to stop. Thats not the issue. You said blacks are violent. Like that characterizes them as an entire race. Thats racist. Now peenies comment was a recognition that if youre in the extreme minority anywhere things can be hard for you. I did not take that as her justifying the treatment towards white kids in predominantly black schools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 27, 2017 Thats not the issue. You said blacks are violent. Like that characterizes them as an entire race. Thats racist. Now peenies comment was a recognition that if youre in the extreme minority anywhere things can be hard for you. I did not take that as her justifying the treatment towards white kids in predominantly black schools. Go back and read my response again. I said peenie is acknowledging what others have posted; not me. And of course you didn't take peenie's comment that way because it doesn't fit your agenda. Simple Yes or No question: Can blacks be racist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted October 27, 2017 White kid in an all poor black school will have it hard, no doubt.And that's what I was. I was a 'white' (actually, part Puerto Rican, but light skinned, so my nationality was 'white' for all outward appearances) kid surrounded nearly entirely by blacks, both in the neighborhood I grew up in, as well as my grade and high school. I had it hard, but - like anything else that is a challenge - I adapted, and was accepted. Skin color was no longer an issue, once I got through the 'challenges' (the usual fights/hazing/etc). What is really important to blacks, from my experience, is simply being treated with respect. Everyone has an 'antenna'. It's used to determine the content of your character. Everyone has it. Radiating fear blocks people from being able to see what you truly believe and how you truly feel. I'm not a racist guy; not in the slightest. That fact became obvious to those surrounding me growing up, both in school in my neighborhood. After that, it was my black friends protecting me from other blacks who hadn't yet figured out who I was and I what I believed. But make no mistake: those blacks who were yet to know me constantly called me things like "cracker" or "honky", so their projected racism was nothing more than fear and wariness. Nearly every one of those types stopped doing it once they realized who I was. That's how racism is in this country: there are so scant few truly racist people in this country that they're hardly worth considering. All there really are in any abundance are a whole lot of people whose actions are driven by fear, and who lash out. Someone can yell "n*gger!!" and do so not because they're truly racist, but because they're lashing out, either because of frustration, or fear, or even anger. Same thing for blacks - in the experiences I just referenced - who yell out their own pejoratives. Playing on those differences/hatreds/divisions is how SJWs actually inflame division between peoples. Real racism is a different thing - and it is so vanishingly rare. It is something which doesn't change regardless how considerate or kind one reacts in response. You have to be really aware of who you are or be really down in order to get by. If you're a white girl, you need to be able to defend yourself correctly. The most popular girl in my all black middle school was white. Why? Because she was cute, minded her business and could kick ass. She didn't try to talk black. Funny thing, her Dad was racist! You couldn't come to their house if you were black.Yeah, there's nothing more transparently annoying and fake than a white person who attempts to talk 'black' when in the company of black people. Hillary did that on the regular, and I just laughed at it. The only ones excusing it were those blacks who were totally in the bag for Democrats. Hillary could literally have done or said anything; it wouldn't have mattered. But her "I'm in no ways taaahred" crap was laughable. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites