Release the FISA memo

[Mr. Hand 482]

This Sho character is a real idiot.

 

At some point you would think he would get tired of supporting corruption and spouting fake news all day, every day.

He enjoys being a Richard to people.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

When is the Carter Page perp walk?

[drobeski 3,061]

When is the Carter Page perp walk?

think he's already in gitmo, all the deceit and corruption was definitely worth saving our country from that villain.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

think he's already in gitmo

A real life Dr. Evil

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

I never claimed "ALL" of it was made up. However I believed the DNC server hack and Trump Jr. meetings were setups and I've been proven right.

 

Perhaps not all...but you deny at best, the majority of the actual story accepted even by Trumps CIA director and you do so by believing dubious sources (which yiubdo often no matter what their record of being wrong is)

 

And don't play the 'it's all been covered before' crap.

 

YOUR opinions on the following:

 

1. Explanation of the firings/demotions within the DOJ/FBI; numerous people sh!tcanned yet no criminal/illegal activities were done? Only two were texting so don't bother going that route.

 

Which specific firings. If you are talking about Muellers team...thats what happens to take away even the appearance of impropriety in the investigation. Any possible conflict of interest that is close tommaterial someone will be reassigned or let go from the investigation. Pretty standard and what a reputable investigator would do.

 

2. What National Security issues was Schiff and FBI talking about that were at risk with release of this memo? You've got Comey and others calling it a nothing burger so either Schiff is full of sh!t and lying or Comey's full of sh!t and lying.

 

Comey calling thebresult nothing but stated his concerns and what the memo risked by its release. He echoes Schiffs thoughts. Not sure where you are getting that they are not in the same page with their disagreement.

You can read comets tweets in the matter. They mirrors Schiffs statements.

 

 

 

What position was Rosenstein holding during Uranium One? Who worked with him on that? How long has he been with the the DOJ?

Uranium One? Are you that batshit crazy???

FFS man...So now Rosenstein is a deep stater too? Why the fock then did Trump appoint him?

 

 

 

ETA: You poke fun at 'Congressional Source' yet you bought into the Dossier that was Russian Sourced (unverified per Comey).

I poke fun at single sources quoted by FoxNews yes...because you all always complain about unnamed sources as has Fox.

As for my feelings in the dossier...you can search all you want for my quotes in the matter and you wont find where I just bought in . I have only argued of its existence (when it first started and some here acted as if it wasnt even a thing)...and later spoke of what from it has been verified .

As for Comeys quote...he never said the whole thing was unverified. In fact...the salacious and unverified quote was specifically about the pee pee stuff. The memo mischaracterized Comeys words...

[Sho Nuff 720]

Well it seems as though saints may have accepted the fact that all of this russia garbage has been an illegal treasonous hit job from the start.

Only a true hack ass clown wouldn't.

I mean come on, real world, join it.

Or he realized the futility in trying to educate people like you here.

Saints has spread more knowledge in here in the topic than you ever will understand.

 

As for you Max...above thismpost from drobeski.

Try once to have a real conversation...try to bring something to the table other than childish insults and claims of fake news.

Crap like this is why the mods told you to take a hike at FBG.

[Sho Nuff 720]

https://lawfareblog.com/thoughts-nunes-memo-we-need-talk-about-devin

 

Another great piece that will be ignored or called fake news.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

https://lawfareblog.com/thoughts-nunes-memo-we-need-talk-about-devin

 

Another great piece that will be ignored or called fake news.

Stopped reading when they continued with the debunked claim that Nunez hadn't read the underlying material. It truly is sad that every media outlet has run with that falsehood. It really is. They either know there was a damn good reason for it and Nunez was briefed on it by Gowdy or they are being told to say it by their corporate and political masters. Journalism is dead. Sad.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Perhaps not all...but you deny at best, the majority of the actual story accepted even by Trumps CIA director and you do so by believing dubious sources (which yiubdo often no matter what their record of being wrong is) Pompeo agreeing Russia meddled is NOT Russian collusion or hacking DNC server. Crowdstrike is STILL the only entity allowed to view hacked equipment and remain the sole source that Russians hacked the server.

 

 

 

Which specific firings. McCabe, Rybicki, Baker, Ohr (demoted twice), Strzok demoted from #4 position to Human Resources, Carlin quitting right after notifying FISA court of abuses (Oct 2016) etc.....

 

Comey calling thebresult nothing but stated his concerns and what the memo risked by its release. He echoes Schiffs thoughts. Not sure where you are getting that they are not in the same page with their disagreement.

You can read comets tweets in the matter. They mirrors Schiffs statements.

 

 

 

Uranium One? Are you that batshit crazy???

FFS man...So now Rosenstein is a deep stater too? Why the fock then did Trump appoint him? Leave the name calling at the door man. We don't need to go down that trail. Yes, Rosenstein is now facing a felony for signing off on that last extension to the FISA knowing it was based on Dossier.

 

https://stonecoldtruth.com/muller-rosenstein-and-comey-the-three-amigos-from-the-deep-state/

 

 

 

There is a longtime and incestuous relationship between the fixers who have been tasked with taking down President Trump, under the fake narrative of enforcing the law. James Comey worked in the DOJ directly under Mueller until 2005. Rod Rosenstein and Mueller go even further back.

 

I poke fun at single sources quoted by FoxNews yes...because you all always complain about unnamed sources as has Fox.

As for my feelings in the dossier...you can search all you want for my quotes in the matter and you wont find where I just bought in . I have only argued of its existence (when it first started and some here acted as if it wasnt even a thing)...and later spoke of what from it has been verified .

As for Comeys quote...he never said the whole thing was unverified. In fact...the salacious and unverified quote was specifically about the pee pee stuff. The memo mischaracterized Comeys words...

 

You've used single sourced stuff (Just like applications for FISAs) therefore can't pick and choose when it's applicable.

 

Answered.

 

Respond to the personnel demotions/firings listed.

[lickin_starfish 2,027]

This is far from over.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/fkm63chevy/status/959628944277467136

 

All the way up to barry, focking rotten treasonous scumbags

Get Barack's orange jumpsuit ready.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Answered.

 

Respond to the personnel demotions/firings listed.

 

Are you trying to make things more difficult to actually respond to with the imbedded stuff?

 

First off on Pompeo...he does actually believe the DNC were hacked by Russia (even after meeting a skeptic Trump set him up with last November)...I never mentioned collusion. That is a possibility that is being investigated. You were arguing last week about Russian involvment in the election and you still don't believe the DNC hacking stuff. Not going to rehash that old argument...suffice now to say you don't even agree with Trump's own CIA director's thoughts on the matter.

 

On firings...you start with McCabe who its not fully known the aspect of him firing vs. stepping down. I may rehash these later in a separate space than this...as this thread is specificaly about the memo and claims made within that you now seem to be trying to much up with other things (as you often do).

First will be to know...nobody here has first hand knowledge of reasons behind reassignments or people being let go. There is just as much a possibility it was politically motivated from the right as to something to "cover up" from the left. It would all be speculative based on very limited information.

 

On U1...I won't leave calling you crazy at the door on that...sorry. Its a ridiculous notion that has been destroyed as an actual narrative so many times. Rosenstein is not facing any felony for this...this is your opinion based on an extremely biased and what appears to be awfully constructed memo.

 

Rarely have I used single sourced information and when I do its not presented as "this is fact" its presented as "this is being reported". You seem to just see anything with unnamed sources and write it off completely if its agaisnt your narrative...but post it as if its actual fact when it supports it.

You appear to be posting a letter likely gained illegally (if its even legit) and likely found from a highly questionable source.

And a claim of an unnamed source listed out on a Fox talking heads show has zero credibility...you won't see that coming from anything I have posted.

[Mr. Hand 482]

Didn’t Slow say today he wouldn’t be posting as much in political threads?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

More on Rosenstein's background.............he and the Clinton's go way back. IMO he should have recused himself knowing the Clintons paid for the Dossier AND his wife works for the attorney whose personally represented Comey, Mueller, FBI, Obama, and Clintons NUMEROUS times. He's dug in the deep state like an Alabama tick.

 

 

 

We look back at Rod’s loyal work for Hillary Clinton, when he became a clean-up man for the Clinton Administration as an Associate Independent Counsel from 1995 until 1997. He supervised the investigation that found no basis for criminal prosecution of White House officials who had obtained classified FBI background reports. He did a great job covering for the Team Bill Clinton, including covering for Hillary, as she was one of the people who had access to the reports, and may have even requested them. Convenient for the Clintons, no indictments were filed.

 

Having proven his loyalty to the powers that be, Rosenstein was appointed to work in the US Office of the Independent Counsel under Ken Starr on the Whitewater Investigation into then President Bill Clinton. By some miracle, or clever work by insiders, the Clintons escaped culpability once again. Rod wasn’t alone, he had help from his co-worker James Comey, who was also making sure the Clintons were exonerated during the Whitewater affair.

 

Enter Lisa Barsoomian, wife of Rod Rosenstein. Lisa is a high-powered attorney in Washington, DC, who specializes in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the Deep State, err, I mean, the Intelligence Communities.

Lisa Barsoomian works for R. Craig Lawrence, an attorney who has represented Robert Mueller three times, James Comey five times, Barack Obama forty-five times, Kathleen Sebellius fifty-six times, Bill Clinton forty times, and Hillary Clinton seventeen times between 1991 and 2017.

Barsoomian participated in some of this work personally and has herself represented the FBI at least five separate times. It would be great to research the specifics of the cases she worked in, many of the documents from the Court Docket relating to these cases have been removed from the D.C. District and Appeals Court, including her representation for Clinton in 1998’s case Hamburg. V. Clinton.

[Sho Nuff 720]

So yeah...I guess the narrative is flipping to Trumps own guy Rosenstein.

Set up the character assassination so he can fire him. Then Mueller.

 

Doing such wont end well for Team Trump. Even this congress will only sit along for so long.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

So yeah...I guess the narrative is flipping to Trumps own guy Rosenstein.

Set up the character assassination so he can fire him. Then Mueller.

 

Doing such wont end well for Team Trump. Even this congress will only sit along for so long.

 

Yes or No, do you think Rosenstein should have recused himself?

 

He's clearly got so much history with the Clintons, Mueller and Comey that merely the air of impropriety taints his every decision.

 

One of the worst mistakes Trump has made.

[SenatorRock 708]

He enjoys being a Richard to people.

I'm starting to think Sho is similar to Wiff in the political threads, just trolling people.

 

No way someone could be that off their rocker.

[SenatorRock 708]

Stopped reading when they continued with the debunked claim that Nunez hadn't read the underlying material. It truly is sad that every media outlet has run with that falsehood. It really is. They either know there was a damn good reason for it and Nunez was briefed on it by Gowdy or they are being told to say it by their corporate and political masters. Journalism is dead. Sad.

 

On the plus side, it is really easy to spot the people who actually research things and apply critical thinking and those who just regurgitate what they hear that fits their narrative.

 

If anyone says "Nunes didn't even read the underlying material" then you know they are either a paid shill or a useless idiot. Either way, not worth interacting with, unless just to mock them.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Yes or No, do you think Rosenstein should have recused himself?

 

He's clearly got so much history with the Clintons, Mueller and Comey that merely the air of impropriety taints his every decision.

 

One of the worst mistakes Trump has made.

No...he should not have recused himself over the crap you are trying to dig up.

You know who else has a history with the Clintons? Donald Trump.

I mean...Im shocked that guys like Comey and Mueller and Rosenstein have had previous working relationships...no Sherlock...

Its a weak ass hatchet job...just like the memo.

Hell bent in weakening the Intelligence Community And Department of Justice for one purpose.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I'm starting to think Sho is similar to Wiff in the political threads, just trolling people.

 

No way someone could be that off their rocker.

Yet you cant refute what I have said with actual facts.

 

No worries...you have the rest of today to try before I make myself a bit more scarce....

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

On the plus side, it is really easy to spot the people who actually research things and apply critical thinking and those who just regurgitate what they hear that fits their narrative.

 

If anyone says "Nunes didn't even read the underlying material" then you know they are either a paid shill or a useless idiot. Either way, not worth interacting with, unless just to mock them.

Thats great coming from you...who denied those facts (and claimed Inwas wrong and a liar...til Inproved yiubwrong in it multiple times and you cant admit that)...now we have moved in to the next talking point that Nunes wasnt allowed to (nothing official actually stating this yet either).

You believe only what Team Trump tells you to...that much has been proven

 

Was it yiubwho also just claimed earlier that Gowdy actually wrote the memo(a lie I easily refuted)?

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

 

On the plus side, it is really easy to spot the people who actually research things and apply critical thinking and those who just regurgitate what they hear that fits their narrative.

 

If anyone says "Nunes didn't even read the underlying material" then you know they are either a paid shill or a useless idiot. Either way, not worth interacting with, unless just to mock them.

That's true. But to see all of them repeat this, everywhere, is disheartening. They don't even put it in their own words. It's the same exact thing on all fronts. Not a disclaimer from any of them, saying at least there are reports that only 2 people could see them. Which makes total sense by the way. David Brooks was extremely condescending about it last night. But you won't here a peep out of him on Sunday or Monday about it. Might not technically be a conspiracy, but it sure as hell looks like one.

[SenatorRock 708]

Thats great coming from you...who denied those facts (and claimed Inwas wrong and a liar...til Inproved yiubwrong in it multiple times and you cant admit that)...now we have moved in to the next talking point that Nunes wasnt allowed to (nothing official actually stating this yet either).

You believe only what Team Trump tells you to...that much has been proven

 

Was it yiubwho also just claimed earlier that Gowdy actually wrote the memo(a lie I easily refuted)?

 

Guys, I think I figured out who Sho is in real life:

 

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Guys, I think I figured out who Sho is in real life:

 

 

So as usual...no answer...and in that other thread you are talking about me and others calling us trolls and nobody wants discussion.

 

I was right about Nunes not seeing the documentation (younclaimed Inwas a liar and wrong)

 

What is obvious is that you dont want discussion. You want people to agree with you.

You arent capable of actual discussion because you post partial truths and falsehoods and get mad when you get called in it.

And you are a coward scared to reveal who you were at FBG.

Not much time left there little buddy...

[Sho Nuff 720]

Other questions for those calling out the FBI and FISA stuff.

-Did the memo even attempt to challenge that the warrant was based in probable cause? It did not appear to challenge probable cause at all.

 

-If Nunes and the GOP are so thinking there is corruption in the FBI//DOJ...why did they recently vote to reauthorize section702 without recommended reform?

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

Stopped reading when they continued with the debunked claim that Nunez hadn't read the underlying material. It truly is sad that every media outlet has run with that falsehood. It really is. They either know there was a damn good reason for it and Nunez was briefed on it by Gowdy or they are being told to say it by their corporate and political masters. Journalism is dead. Sad.

Ok here's Nunes himself confirming he did not read the underlying documents.

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372119-nunes-admits-he-did-not-view-the-surveillance-warrant-applications-that-form?amp&__twitter_impression=true

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

Ok here's Nunes himself confirming he did not read the underlying documents.

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372119-nunes-admits-he-did-not-view-the-surveillance-warrant-applications-that-form?amp&__twitter_impression=true

And? Gowdy read them. What's the issue here?

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

And? Gowdy read them. What's the issue here?

I was just responding to the claim that that wasn't correct and that it was a media lie. It's obviously correct.

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

>>Stopped reading when they continued with the debunked claim that Nunez hadn't read the underlying material. It <<

 

- Obviously he didn't.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

I was just responding to the claim that that wasn't correct and that it was a media lie. It's obviously correct.

No, when you leave pertinent information out it's a lie. There's a very good reason he didn't read it.

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

No, when you leave pertinent information out it's a lie. There's a very good reason he didn't read it.

I agree that there was a good reason he did not read it. And I think it's pretty commonly understood that Gowdy was the one who read the sourcing.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

I agree that there was a good reason he did not read it. And I think it's pretty commonly understood that Gowdy was the one who read the sourcing.

Go ahead and watch David Brooks on PBS news hour last night and see what he says. He just condescends Nunes for not reading it. Like the rest of the MSM did.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I agree that there was a good reason he did not read it. And I think it's pretty commonly understood that Gowdy was the one who read the sourcing.

Which begs the question...why it was authored by Nunes instead of Gowdy?

[12th Man 884]

 

Who posted in: Release the FISA memo

Member name Posts Sho Nuff 298

 

 

Pushing 300 posts

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

Go ahead and watch David Brooks on PBS news hour last night and see what he says. He just condescends Nunes for not reading it. Like the rest of the MSM did.

It was Brooks & Mark Shields, not Nunes. Shields specifically says Gowdy reviewed the materials at 5:08. Woodruff says it again right after Vrooks finishes at 6:40.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

It was Brooks & Mark Shields, not Nunes. Shields specifically says Gowdy reviewed the materials at 5:08.

 

And Brooks says what? Made some wise crack about him not reading it. And he's the republican. And do they say why Gowdy read it and not Nunes?

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

And Brooks says what? Made some wise crack about him not reading it.

Shields said it before Brooks spoke. Immediately after Brooks spoke Woodruff said it again at 6:40. They were clear that Nunes got the info from Gowdy.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

Shields said it before Brooks spoke. Immediately after Brooks spoke Woodruff said it again at 6:40. They were clear that Nunes got the info from Gowdy.

Did they say why? Beisides, I was talking about what Brooks said. He was the one putting Nunes down.

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

Which begs the question...why it was authored by Nunes instead of Gowdy?

It might be that it was originally intended that Gowdy write the memo.

[Sho Nuff 720]

It might be that it was originally intended that Gowdy write the memo.

Sure and perhaps his version would be a tad different?

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

Did they say why? Beisides, I was talking about what Brooks said. He was the one putting Nunes down.

No they didn't. It's an interesting element and I'm not sure anyone understood that piece until Nunes said it to Baier. I am rather curious though why if Gowdy was best qualified to view the material he was not considered best qualified to write about it.