Release the FISA memo

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

Nunes is the ranking member on the committee, that's why he authored it. And they say Gowdy read it as if it's a bad thing. I think the term"contracted out" was used. As if Nunes pushed it off on an underling. It's dishonest. Any reasonably person knows this.

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

Sure and perhaps his version would be a tad different?

I don't know. Dems may hate Gowdy but the guy is a highly skilled lawyer. Nunes has a degree in agriculture. Actually I'm not really sure why he's chairman of House Intel much less on it. He doesn't appear to have any legal, security or military experience.

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

Nunes is the ranking member on the committee, that's why he authored it. And they say Gowdy read it as if it's a bad thing. I think the term"contracted out" was used. As if Nunes pushed it off on an underling. It's dishonest. Any reasonably person knows this.

I guess I understand why Gowdy was sent, he's most qualified, that makes sense, but Schiff was assigned by the Dems and I'm sure he'll write their memo if they do one.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I guess I understand why Gowdy was sent, he's most qualified, that makes sense, but Schiff was assigned by the Dems and I'm sure he'll write their memo if they do one.

And thats the other question(s)

-why a partisan memo by the Republicans on the committee? Nunes own words are that he crafted or based in Gowdys notes and what Gowdy presented. Nothingbfrom Schiff included? Does that not show that its a partisan political issue from the start and not about anything more than that?

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

And thats the other question(s)

-why a partisan memo by the Republicans on the committee? Nunes own words are that he crafted or based in Gowdys notes and what Gowdy presented. Nothingbfrom Schiff included? Does that not show that its a partisan political issue from the start and not about anything more than that?

Actually it's not really clear that all the Republicans were involved, it just appears to be a faction. Just as an example it looks like Hurd wasn't involved. IMO a bipartisan report when the committee is finished its hearings and investigation would be optimal. This is the opposite, not only is it not bipartisan it's not even a report.

 

In the cover letter Nunes makes clear it represents the "opinion" of "the authors" i.e. Nunes and his staffers, not even the committee majority.

[BrahmaBulls 954]

Who posted in: Release the FISA memo

Member name Posts Sho Nuff 298

 

 

Pushing 300 posts

 

 

Damn what a loser

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

It might be that it was originally intended that Gowdy write the memo.

If you guys would actually watch Nunes interview on Fox he explains why he chose Gowdy. The memo was authored and overseen by Gowdy, Nunes and several others.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Actually it's not really clear that all the Republicans were involved, it just appears to be a faction. Just as an example it looks like Hurd wasn't involved. IMO a bipartisan report when the committee is finished its hearings and investigation would be optimal. This is the opposite, not only is it not bipartisan it's not even a report.

 

In the cover letter Nunes makes clear it represents the "opinion" of "the authors" i.e. Nunes and his staffers, not even the committee majority.

Good points here.

[Sho Nuff 720]

If you guys would actually watch Nunes interview on Fox he explains why he chose Gowdy. The memo was authored and overseen by Gowdy, Nunes and several others.

There is nothing in that interview that says it was authored by Gowdy.

If so...post it.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

There is nothing in that interview that says it was authored by Gowdy.

If so...post it.

Hey, dickwad. Watch the video again and how Nunes explains why Gowdy was chosen.

 

You're the moron who keeps parroting that Nunes didn't read the documentation as if that scoring you points.

 

Stay on point .

[Sho Nuff 720]

Hey, dickwad. Watch the ###### video again and how Nunes explains why Gowdy was chosen.

 

You're the moron who keeps parroting that Nunes didn't read the documentation as if that scoring you points.

 

Stay on point ######.

I didnt ask why he was chose to view the documents.

Slow down a moment and understand what is being asked.

You claimed The memo was authored and overseen by Gowdy, Nunes and several others.

Im asking you to back up that Gowdy authored is even oversaw the writing of the memo.

 

Seems you are having an issue staying on point.

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

If you guys would actually watch Nunes interview on Fox he explains why he chose Gowdy. The memo was authored and overseen by Gowdy, Nunes and several others.

Fwiw I agree Gowdy was better qualified, that's the part I watched. But yes you're right Nunes also says at 0:54 that Gowdy helped write the memo.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Fwiw I agree Gowdy was better qualified, that's the part I watched. But yes you're right Nunes also says at 0:54 that Gowdy helped write the memo.

Helped write meaning? Nunes or staff looked at his notes. Or wrote how much is what isnt clear.

Fair enough though...Ill rescind my objection over it and say I was wrong.

Just would seem Gowdy be more out front on it. His statements after have been curious and not as strong as the other republicans involved.

 

Still doesnt change thatbthis was a GOP memo and. It a report in the committee findings or investigation.

[12th Man 884]

Helped write meaning? Nunes or staff looked at his notes. Or wrote how much is what isnt clear.

Fair enough though...Ill rescind my objection over it and say I was wrong.

Just would seem Gowdy be more out front on it. His statements after have been curious and not as strong as the other republicans involved.

 

Still doesnt change thatbthis was a GOP memo and. It a report in the committee findings or investigation.

 

And I will say...after today...my participation even in those threads will go down

 

[SenatorRock 708]

I was right about Nunes not seeing the documentation (younclaimed Inwas a liar and wrong)

 

 

 

I'll concede this Sho, I misunderstood your original comment, that Nunes did not see the underlying documents. I assumed you were claiming that Nunes did not review any of the underlying documents to the memo.

 

 

There were multiple parts of the memo. FISA application was the overall theme (and certainly the actual application was one of the underlying documents), but not the only part with underlying documents.

 

McCabe testimony was another part.

 

Dossier was another part.

 

Yahoo article was another part.

 

Communications between Steele and Bruce Ohr. Ohr's wife, and her role with Fusion GPS and the dossier.

 

 

There has been a ton of disinformation and misinformation put out on all platforms over the last few weeks. For example, many news outlets were pushing the talking point that "Nunes did not even read the underlying documents" and that phrase went viral. The intent was to discredit Nunes or the content of the memo.

 

A little digging reveals that:

 

-Nunes had Gowdy review the FISA application (along with 2 investigators) and report their notes back to the committee, because that is what the rules allow. The HIC did not get a stack of 1000 pages sent to their office and Nunes was just too lazy to read through them, as the talking point implies. Gowdy has extensive experience as a federal prosecutor, so it makes sense that Nunes would send him to review the application.

 

Rather than explain this, many media outlets just ran with the talking point "Nunes did not read the underlying documents, OMG!"

 

 

As much as I give you Sho, surely you can see the difference between the "talking point" and what really happened and why.

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

Helped write meaning? Nunes or staff looked at his notes. Or wrote how much is what isnt clear.

Fair enough though...Ill rescind my objection over it and say I was wrong.

Just would seem Gowdy be more out front on it. His statements after have been curious and not as strong as the other republicans involved.

 

Still doesnt change thatbthis was a GOP memo and. It a report in the committee findings or investigation.

Here's a snip of Gowdy on FTN, he says he was 'pretty involved' in the drafting.

 

 

However he also lays out several touch points of the investigation.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

Helped write meaning? Nunes or staff looked at his notes. Or wrote how much is what isnt clear.

Fair enough though...Ill rescind my objection over it and say I was wrong.

Just would seem Gowdy be more out front on it. His statements after have been curious and not as strong as the other republicans involved.

 

Still doesnt change thatbthis was a GOP memo and. It a report in the committee findings or investigation.

Still spinning. All your talking points just got blown to smithereens and here you are, parsing words trying to recover.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Still spinning. All your talking points just got blown to smithereens and here you are, parsing words trying to recover.

Not really what is happening...even Inadmitted where I was wrong.

Zero talking points posted still.

 

Run along little Max..

[SenatorRock 708]

Other questions for those calling out the FBI and FISA stuff.

-Did the memo even attempt to challenge that the warrant was based in probable cause? It did not appear to challenge probable cause at all.

 

-The case that is being made is that the FISA warrant was initially issued and then renewed on bogus information. Either the judge was complicit or incompetent, and the FBI/DOJ members who had their names attached were complicit. This memo is just the first. There will be a series of memos released from House, Senate, DOJ/Sessions, and IG Horowitz. Many will call this "insane, conspiracy, etc" but that is the big picture. Expect it to take months, probably well into the summer. Maybe it is all a distraction, maybe it is legit. We will find out.

 

-If Nunes and the GOP are so thinking there is corruption in the FBI//DOJ...why did they recently vote to reauthorize section702 without recommended reform?

-Good question. What was the recommended reform?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

Not really what is happening...even Inadmitted where I was wrong.

Zero talking points posted still.

 

Run along little Max..

Hah! How fitting since you just got served.

 

Whose the one that's really running?

[SenatorRock 708]

>>Stopped reading when they continued with the debunked claim that Nunez hadn't read the underlying material. It <<

 

- Obviously he didn't.

Saints you are smart enough to understand this.

 

Media attempts to discredit Nunes/Memo because he did not read the FISA application.

 

Reality: Nunes had Gowdy read the memo because it is his wheelhouse.

 

Your average person isn't going to get past the Nunes did not read the memo part.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

Other questions for those calling out the FBI and FISA stuff.

-Did the memo even attempt to challenge that the warrant was based in probable cause? It did not appear to challenge probable cause at all.

 

-The case that is being made is that the FISA warrant was initially issued and then renewed on bogus information. Either the judge was complicit or incompetent, and the FBI/DOJ members who had their names attached were complicit. This memo is just the first. There will be a series of memos released from House, Senate, DOJ/Sessions, and IG Horowitz. Many will call this "insane, conspiracy, etc" but that is the big picture. Expect it to take months, probably well into the summer. Maybe it is all a distraction, maybe it is legit. We will find out.

 

-If Nunes and the GOP are so thinking there is corruption in the FBI//DOJ...why did they recently vote to reauthorize section702 without recommended reform?

-Good question. What was the recommended reform?

The problem is they seem to be overplaying what of the dossier was used and will they know what was verified or not at that point.

The memos thus far have been underwhelming ...I wouldnt expect the next to get any better.

There were increased protections recommended...if have to look to find specifics.

Several good articles out there though.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Saints you are smart enough to understand this.

 

Media attempts to discredit Nunes/Memo because he did not read the FISA application.

 

Reality: Nunes had Gowdy read the memo because it is his wheelhouse.

 

Your average person isn't going to get past the Nunes did not read the memo part.

The average person isnt going to read much of this. Some wont get past claims of abuse no matter how little evidence there is. Probably why Team trump wanted this released so badly.

[SenatorRock 708]

No they didn't. It's an interesting element and I'm not sure anyone understood that piece until Nunes said it to Baier. I am rather curious though why if Gowdy was best qualified to view the material he was not considered best qualified to write about it.

 

Gowdy has experience as a prosecutor, worked in US Attorneys office in SC, and was solicitor for several years. Nunes was a cattle farmer turned politician. Gowdy's skill set was well suited to reviewing FISA applications and knowing what to be looking for.

 

Remember, they did not get a batch of documents to take home and review. Could not take pictures or make copies either. All they could do was take notes. If you have one shot, send your best man for the job.

 

 

Nunes is on the Gang of Eight so presumably he knows where the bodies are buried. He has had a story to tell since last spring and this memo is the first step towards getting that story to the public in a legal and digestible way. Makes sense he is the official "author". The entire committee was briefed on the FISA application by Gowdy and his notes. Nunes says that he, Gowdy, and the 2 investigators are the ones who composed the memo.

 

No matter which side of the memo you fall it is a little interesting that Gowdy announces he is not running for re-election 2 days before the memo is released. Maybe just coincidence.

[SenatorRock 708]

And thats the other question(s)

-why a partisan memo by the Republicans on the committee? Nunes own words are that he crafted or based in Gowdys notes and what Gowdy presented. Nothingbfrom Schiff included? Does that not show that its a partisan political issue from the start and not about anything more than that?

 

Assume what is in the memo is true.

 

Hillary/DNC oppo reseaarch provided by Russians was used to get FISA warrants to spy on Trump associates during the campaign.

 

If true, heads will roll. DOJ, FBI, Obama admin, Hillary/DNC?, Steele, where does it end.

 

 

Now it should make sense why Schiff, Pelosi, Comey have been so against the memo. And those who get their marching order have been pushing the propaganda.

 

And it should make sense why neither Schiff nor any other Dem would want to be a part of this.

[SenatorRock 708]

The problem is they seem to be overplaying what of the dossier was used and will they know what was verified or not at that point.

The memos thus far have been underwhelming ...I wouldnt expect the next to get any better.

There were increased protections recommended...if have to look to find specifics.

Several good articles out there though.

 

That is the beauty of this.

 

Either the dossier was the primary source in the FISA application or it was not.

 

Schiff knows. Gowdy knows.

 

Everyone else is going on either what Schiff claimed or what Gowdy claimed, and explained in the memo.

 

 

Somebody is full of ######!

 

And we hopefully get to find out.

 

 

Dem memo will either be non existent (bluff, never leaves committee, whatever) or Dem memo will claim dossier played minimal role.

 

I don't know the repercussions of lying in a memo.

 

 

Maybe the courts have to release the FISA application.

 

Maybe IG Horowitz gets the FISA application and answers questions in his report.

 

 

 

Bottom line: one side is lying and one side is telling the truth. It is a beautiful train wreck. (RIP Chris Foley).

 

The entire nation will find out that either:

 

a) The Dems and Obama admin illegally spied on a presidential campaign

 

The Reps got 100s of their members involved on this big conspiracy to derail the Mueller Russia probe.

 

 

I can't wait.

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

Saints you are smart enough to understand this.

 

Media attempts to discredit Nunes/Memo because he did not read the FISA application.

 

Reality: Nunes had Gowdy read the memo because it is his wheelhouse.

 

Your average person isn't going to get past the Nunes did not read the memo part.

 

I think it was a useful discussion. I understand HT's point better now (I thought he was actually claiming that Nunes had been read in) and Eternal flushed out a new point, that Gowdy helped write the memo, which I had not even seen before, even from the right.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

Damn. Didn't even take a day for the left to start with the nit picking and minutia. Bottom line, the upper echelon at the FBI was playing dirty pool on behalf of their preferred candidate. And they know it, that's why they are throwing fits and have gotten in bed with the likes of Pelosi and have Bill fockin Maher, mister civil libertarian, running interference for them. I used to kinda like that guy.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Assume what is in the memo is true.

 

Hillary/DNC oppo reseaarch provided by Russians was used to get FISA warrants to spy on Trump associates during the campaign.

 

If true, heads will roll. DOJ, FBI, Obama admin, Hillary/DNC?, Steele, where does it end.

 

 

Now it should make sense why Schiff, Pelosi, Comey have been so against the memo. And those who get their marching order have been pushing the propaganda.

 

And it should make sense why neither Schiff nor any other Dem would want to be a part of this.

Your first part...no heads would nor should roll over just having oppo research used for a FISAwarrant. If the information is good...initial motivation of finding it is irrelevant. Good info is good info. If its legally obtained...and gives probable cause...its fair game.

 

They seem clear why they are against it and that they had accuracy issues with it. In addition to the precedent it set.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

Your first part...no heads would nor should roll over just having oppo research used for a FISAwarrant. If the information is good...initial motivation of finding it is irrelevant. Good info is good info. If its legally obtained...and gives probable cause...its fair game.

 

They seem clear why they are against it and that they had accuracy issues with it. In addition to the precedent it set.

They still cant withhold information from the court. They withheld information, and please don't act like it was no big deal. If you were the judge you would want that info. If you were the subject you would want the judge to have that info.

[drobeski 3,061]

The problem is they seem to be overplaying what of the dossier was used and will they know what was verified or not at that point.

The memos thus far have been underwhelming ...I wouldnt expect the next to get any better.

There were increased protections recommended...if have to look to find specifics.

Several good articles out there though.

it should have not been used at all, none of it. You get that, right?

[drobeski 3,061]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/03/this-is-madness-the-media-are-just-as-complicit-in-the-doj-corruption-and-fisa-abuse/

 

This is Madness The Media are Just as Complicit In The DOJ Corruption and FISA Abuse

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Posted by sundance

We shared a discussion thread a few weeks ago about how the media are enmeshed within the entire story of the DOJ and FBI corruption. The media engagements with the parties swirling around the Clinton-Steele Dossier and DOJ corruption are so pervasive they cannot currently report on the story without exposing their own duplicity. Michael Isikoff found that reality yesterday when he discovered his reporting was being used by the FBI.

 

FBI investigator Peter Strzok and FBI attorney Lisa Page have been shown in their text messages to be leaking stories from the Clinton Investigation, the Trump investigation and the Mueller investigation to journalists at Politico, The Wall Street Journal and Washington Post. SEE HERE

 

(Source Link pdf Page #5)

 

Additionally, Christopher Steele has stated in U.K. court records the person in charge of the Clinton Campaigns opposition research firm, Glenn Simpson from Fusion GPS, arranged and coordinated for Mr. Steele to talk to several journalists (CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Yahoo News and Mother Jones) while Mr. Steele was also the primary source of information for the FBI investigators (including Strzok and Page):

 

 

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(Source page #8)

 

Make sure you read that full response from Christopher Steele above to see the scope of the media engagements he was conducting.

 

As more evidence surfaces the relationship between journalists, Fusion-GPS, Chris Steele and the medias DOJ/FBI sources begins blending together. The FBI was using media reports, which were based on Fusion-GPS pitches, to bolster its investigative documents to the FISA court:

 

 

 

According to the U.K records, Christopher Steele reports this September 2016 meeting with Isikoff was arranged by Glenn Simpson. According to Michael Isikoff today on his podcast, he met Christopher Steele at a Washington, D.C. hotel in Sept. 2016. They were joined by his old friend Glenn Simpson, the founder of opposition research firm Fusion GPS, who Isikoff now defines as a private investigator.

 

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So Christopher Steele was meeting with journalists, the journalists were writing articles; the FBI was leaking to media and citing articles as underlying evidence to support their counterintelligence investigations; and all of this was used to validate the investigative documents the FBI was receiving from Christopher Steele; who, along with the leaking FBI officials, was also the source of the media articles.

 

FUBAR! This is exponentially bonkers.

 

This is a circle of information, all coming from Glenn Simpson at Fusion GPS, who was the opposition research firm being financed by Hillary Clinton, along with FBI officials who were using their own leaks to validate their own investigation.

 

Think about the scale of the reporting, and reporting on reporting, of anonymous leaks, false leaks, lies from people with knowledge of the matter, government officials involved in the matter, people familiar with the matter, government sources etc. all going in one unified and semi-coordinated direction against the aggregate Trump administration.

 

Now, it actually gets even more convoluted.

 

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Christopher Steele has sworn under oath that he met with multiple journalists (at least eight organizations) in September, mid-October, and late-October 2016: at Fusions instruction. (pdf page #7)

 

Overlay upon that sworn admission what Glenn Simpson (Fusion-GPS) told the House Intelligence Committee while also under oath about his involvement in sharing information derived from Christopher Steele:

 

(Testimony pdf link, page #147)

 

without my knowledge and against my wishes?

Huh?

 

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FBI Director James Comey admits to leaking his memos to the New York Times. FBI #2 Counterintelligence Agent and FBI Attorney Lisa Page are caught in their text messages leaking to Politico, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post.

 

The FBI is caught, in at least one FISA application, using Yahoo media reports provided by them AND their investigative source Christopher Steele to establish a basis for FISA Title I surveillance; the most intrusive and wide-open search and surveillance authority possnible.

 

The Clinton Campaign is paying Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research against Donald Trump. In addition to Glenn Simpson pushing that opposition research into the media, Fusion GPS is also providing that opposition research including information from contacts with media directly to the FBI:

 

(pdf link page #4)

 

In addition to using the Fusion-GPS information to underpin their counterintelligence investigation, the FBI then turn around and leak the same opposition research information to the media to create the support for their counterintelligence investigation.

 

So, tell me again how the media can possibly write about this now?

 

The problem is not just corruption with the U.S. Justice System, the DOJ and the FBI; the problem is corruption within the media.

 

Were talking about thousands of hours of media TV pundits, thousands more columns written, and almost every scintilla of it based on originating intelligence sources -from the larger intelligence system- that are now being exposed as duplicitous and conspiratorial in the scale of their malicious intent.

 

This larger story-line has traveled in one direction. The narrative has only traveled in one direction. Each thread converging on codependent trails for collective stories all going in one direction. One big engineered narrative endlessly pushed. Think about how far the collective media have traveled with this story over the past eighteen months.

 

Now, in a period of a few weeks, it has become increasingly obvious the collective journey, using all that expended effort, was going in the wrong direction.

 

The media have fully invested themselves in eighteen months of narrative distribution in only one direction. Not a single MSM entity has questioned their travel as a result of false leaks and false sources in the totality of time they have covered the DOJ and FBI story.

 

Nothing within their collective need to will-an-outcome, will change the medias proximity to facts when the truthful story behind the DOJ and FBI corruption is finally exposed. The media are so far away from the place where this story ends, they have no inherent capability to even begin to travel in the opposite direction, toward the truth.

 

The only way they could align with the truth is to admit that virtually every scintilla of their reportage over the past 18 months was inherently false. Theres not a single media outlet capable of doing that.

 

Think about a New York Times, CNN, New Yorker, Wall Street Journal, Mother Jones, Yahoo News or Washington Post journalist now having to write an article deconstructing an entire foundation of lies they participated in creating.

 

Do we really think such a catastrophic level of flawed ideology could reconstitute into genuine reporting of fact-based information?

 

Impossible.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

No...he should not have recused himself over the crap you are trying to dig up.

You know who else has a history with the Clintons? Donald Trump.

I mean...Im shocked that guys like Comey and Mueller and Rosenstein have had previous working relationships...no ###### Sherlock...

 

Given Rosenstein's clear and unchallenged history with the Clintons, Comey and Mueller he simply shouldn't be in charge of a case that contained manufactured evidence by the Clintons.

 

The air of impropriety combined with the fact he signed off on an extension of surveillance obtained under false pretenses taints all aspects of his involvement with this. The case from top to bottom is fruit of the poisonous tree now.

 

Ok here's Nunes himself confirming he did not read the underlying documents.

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372119-nunes-admits-he-did-not-view-the-surveillance-warrant-applications-that-form?amp&__twitter_impression=true

 

I don't know. Dems may hate Gowdy but the guy is a highly skilled lawyer. Nunes has a degree in agriculture. Actually I'm not really sure why he's chairman of House Intel much less on it. He doesn't appear to have any legal, security or military experience.

 

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/02/02/intel-committee-chairman-devin-nunes-discusses-fisa-memo-bret-baier

 

 

 

Nunes, who co-wrote the memo with Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), said he didn't want to release the memo, but he had an obligation to the American people when he saw FISA abuse.

 

I think that'll be enough of calling into question whether or not the memo is based upon the underlying evidence. If you trust Schiff's word because he's seen it, then you must trust the memo because Gowdy's seen it.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I read something last night pretty interesting and answered questions I posed earlier that no one responded to.

 

So Carter Page is now identified as why they sought a surveillance warrant and if I'm not mistaken was originally sought on Oct 21st, 2016. Problem with the narrative is that Carter Page left the Trump Campaign Sept 26th, 2016 (NYT, Politico, etc...) therefore what were they doing surveillance on Trump Tower for? Page was gone nearly a whole month before. He wasn't a member of Trump Campaign at that point, wasn't on the transition team, and wasn't in the Trump Administration.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/03/this-is-madness-the-media-are-just-as-complicit-in-the-doj-corruption-and-fisa-abuse/

 

This is Madness The Media are Just as Complicit In The DOJ Corruption and FISA Abuse

FEATURED

Posted by sundance

We shared a discussion thread a few weeks ago about how the media are enmeshed within the entire story of the DOJ and FBI corruption. The media engagements with the parties swirling around the Clinton-Steele Dossier and DOJ corruption are so pervasive they cannot currently report on the story without exposing their own duplicity. Michael Isikoff found that reality yesterday when he discovered his reporting was being used by the FBI.

 

The only way they could align with the truth is to admit that virtually every scintilla of their reportage over the past 18 months was inherently false. Theres not a single media outlet capable of doing that.

 

Think about a New York Times, CNN, New Yorker, Wall Street Journal, Mother Jones, Yahoo News or Washington Post journalist now having to write an article deconstructing an entire foundation of lies they participated in creating.

 

Do we really think such a catastrophic level of flawed ideology could reconstitute into genuine reporting of fact-based information?

 

Impossible.

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/fusion-chris-steele-media.jpg

 

Pic from the same article highlighted to show Steele shopping the Dossier around at the direction of Fusion GPS in late Sept through Mid October. It's clear they were desperate to get details of it published so they could second source it to the FISA Court.

 

Only problem was Page already left the Trump campaign.

[cbfalcon 828]

Educational read for some...

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/04/trump-twitter-russians-release-the-memo-216935

[drobeski 3,061]

Educational read for some...

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/04/trump-twitter-russians-release-the-memo-216935

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

 

Given Rosenstein's clear and unchallenged history with the Clintons, Comey and Mueller he simply shouldn't be in charge of a case that contained manufactured evidence by the Clintons.

 

The air of impropriety combined with the fact he signed off on an extension of surveillance obtained under false pretenses taints all aspects of his involvement with this. The case from top to bottom is fruit of the poisonous tree now.

 

 

 

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/02/02/intel-committee-chairman-devin-nunes-discusses-fisa-memo-bret-baier

 

 

 

 

I think that'll be enough of calling into question whether or not the memo is based upon the underlying evidence. If you trust Schiff's word because he's seen it, then you must trust the memo because Gowdy's seen it.

 

I'm not sure the fact that Gowdy was involved is everything that you will want it to be. First of all it doesn't automatically mean that everything in the memo is 100% correct, or that Gowdy wrote every word or was involved in every piece of the memo. Sho was right when he pointed that out. - Would you agree that where there is difference between what Gowdy is saying and Nunes that the most informed person and the most qualified is Gowdy?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Educational read for some...

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/04/trump-twitter-russians-release-the-memo-216935

 

Comical............so now that Russians are behind the memo's release.

 

Politico says that's what concerns them? Not the facts supporting the entire Obama administration tried to rig the election to assist Hillary then tried to unseat the elected President?

 

That's beneath you dude.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Comical............so now that Russians are behind the memo's release.

 

Politico says that's what concerns them? Not the facts supporting the entire Obama administration tried to rig the election to assist Hillary then tried to unseat the elected President?

 

That's beneath you dude.

dont forget pokemon