kilroy69 994 Posted September 4, 2018 I have conor and samuals. My head is spinning with the opportunity they could afford me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornKobb 48 Posted September 4, 2018 got conner at 13:7 in ppr saturday. hoping he rewards those who took him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 4, 2018 I'm hoping this drag on for 3-4 weeks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ehlana 25 Posted September 4, 2018 I'm hoping I can trade Conner and Alex Smith to the Bell owner for Mahomes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chachacha 9 Posted September 4, 2018 I have Bell in one league now, the only reason I took him is because he is my favorite player and between my other leagues I have stock in the other top 3 rbs. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting nervous, but at least I grabbed James Conner! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted September 4, 2018 I hope they trade him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 4, 2018 I hope they trade him. I would be a happy person Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 4, 2018 I hope they trade him. Trade value for a 27 year old running back that's looking to get pay 20 mil a year isn't very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted September 4, 2018 Trade value for a 27 year old running back that's looking to get pay 20 mil a year isn't very good. for a win now team bell could be the missing piece Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squintz82 45 Posted September 4, 2018 I hope they trade him. They can't unless he signs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 4, 2018 for a win now team bell could be the missing piece There's no win team that is short of a 20 million dollar running back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted September 4, 2018 They can't unless he signs Really? I thought they own him under the tag. Why couldn't they trade him? He is not a free agent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted September 4, 2018 I would be stunned if they trade him. This might be their last window with BenBrownBell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted September 4, 2018 I would be stunned if they trade him. This might be their last window with BenBrownBell. Me too. That's why I am surprised that Bell doesn't want to take his $14 million and run (literally ) He may never have a better chance to win a superbowl. Unless he has blown his millions that he already made, which would not mark a precedence, why wouldn't he take another 14 mil and work to achieve championship? But, I'm sure he has his reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 4, 2018 Really? I thought they own him under the tag. Why couldn't they trade him? He is not a free agent. Steelers don't own anything until he signs. He currently has no contract, but is not a free agent because the Steelers placed the Franchise tag on him. They cannot trade him unless he signs, and no team is going to trade for an RB that hasn't practiced this season, have no idea what shape he's in, and wants upwards of 17 million per year. I believe the trade deadline this year is the 8th week of the season (could be wrong on that). I believe he has to sign by Nov 13 to get credit for an "entire" season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 4, 2018 I would be stunned if they trade him. This might be their last window with BenBrownBell. Agree. Brown might have peaked a few years back. His numbers been down 3 straight year. Ben isn't getting any younger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted September 4, 2018 Steelers don't own anything until he signs. He currently has no contract, but is not a free agent because the Steelers placed the Franchise tag on him. They cannot trade him unless he signs, and no team is going to trade for an RB that hasn't practiced this season, have no idea what shape he's in, and wants upwards of 17 million per year. I believe the trade deadline this year is the 8th week of the season (could be wrong on that). I believe he has to sign by Nov 13 to get credit for an "entire" season. Wasn't Matt Cassel Franchised by NE and then traded to the Chiefs? And Jared Allen traded to the Vikings? I'm not asking if any team would want him, although I have a feeling that at least one team of the remaining 31 in the NFL would "kick the tires" on an underachiever like LeVeon Bell. I'm just saying, if a team wanted to trade for him, you are saying that it can't happen. I don't think that is true given historical examples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bills04 46 Posted September 4, 2018 *If* Bell were to be traded - the other team would need to nail down his next contract, FIRST. No way a team is going trade for a player not under contract, give up compensation, and then not have that player actually play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted September 4, 2018 *If* Bell were to be traded - the other team would need to nail down his next contract, FIRST. No way a team is going trade for a player not under contract, give up compensation, and then not have that player actually play. Well the Bears just traded for a holdout. Why is this crazy that another team can do it for Bell? So what if they need to get a contract? He is not a free agent. IT'S STILL A TRADE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 39 Posted September 5, 2018 Wednesday morning......on the horizon. Signs and practices in the same day? I dont know about that. Even if he does show, how can the Steelers even consider playing him four days before their game? Thats just stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 39 Posted September 5, 2018 It is Wednesday and guess what? Bell is a no show. Let the media circus begin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSanders_33 127 Posted September 5, 2018 But but RapSheet said he was going to show up two days ago? This is going to go on for some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted September 5, 2018 But but RapSheet said he was going to show up two days ago? This is going to go on for some time.Players have until 4 pm Saturday to show up to be able to play on Sunday. For what its worth. Trying to cover their ass and make it sound like they know anything at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 5, 2018 He’s not playing week 1, hold your breath for week 2. You signed up for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted September 5, 2018 It's all up to Bell. He can show up Saturday and get paid. If he doesn't show up by Saturday, I think he is in this for the long haul. And if Bell cares only about the money, just play for the $14 million. That gives him nearly $30 million on his career to date. Then retire or see what you get after that. Because this year is obviously not about winning a championship ring for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 39 Posted September 5, 2018 Greed. It is one of the worst things in our world. It causes so much pain and damage for what? More money? Bell is so focused on money being what makes him happy. If he makes $30 mil, is that not enough? No, gimme more! Risk it and you should be well aware you may face the consequences of your decision. Most of the time people never think of this. I think Bell has lost his mind if he does not show for games..... as there’s even a chance he gets nothing. Of course he will never consider that factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 5, 2018 Greed. It is one of the worst things in our world. It causes so much pain and damage for what? More money? Bell is so focused on money being what makes him happy. If he makes $30 mil, is that not enough? No, gimme more! Risk it and you should be well aware you may face the consequences of your decision. Most of the time people never think of this. I think Bell has lost his mind if he does not show for games..... as theres even a chance he gets nothing. Of course he will never consider that factor. It's relative. Bell makes a pittance compared to the owners. He is the one with the skill and the one who will be in pain after his short window for earning at his profession is over. I will never fault a player for getting his when the owners are all billionaires 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 5, 2018 Greed. It is one of the worst things in our world. It causes so much pain and damage for what? More money? Bell is so focused on money being what makes him happy. If he makes $30 mil, is that not enough? No, gimme more! Risk it and you should be well aware you may face the consequences of your decision. Most of the time people never think of this. I think Bell has lost his mind if he does not show for games..... as there’s even a chance he gets nothing. Of course he will never consider that factor. You’ve got it backwards. The greed is coming from the franchise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 5, 2018 There is no greed, just business. Bell wants to get paid. Steelers want an elite back without needing to commit long term. It's just business as usual. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted September 5, 2018 Bell sitting out 10 games under advice from Harrison. Franchise tag is the dumbest thing ever. How did that players union agree to that. Free agency isnt free for the top players. Teams keep players at a bargain price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pee-diddy 27 Posted September 5, 2018 this from CBS sports. doesn't look promising. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bells-agent-explains-why-steelers-rb-is-holding-out-how-much-time-he-might-miss/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 5, 2018 this from CBS sports. doesn't look promising. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bells-agent-explains-why-steelers-rb-is-holding-out-how-much-time-he-might-miss/ So this begs the question. Could the Steelers rescind the franchise tag offer? If Bell were to wait until week 10, could they out of spite, just pull the franchise offer off the table? So he loses his one year and gets paid nothing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 5, 2018 So this begs the question. Could the Steelers rescind the franchise tag offer? If Bell were to wait until week 10, could they out of spite, just pull the franchise offer off the table? So he loses his one year and gets paid nothing? I believe they could, but then he becomes just a FA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 5, 2018 I believe they could, but then he becomes just a FA yeah, but i think that happens around the same time as the trade deadline, at which point i think FA moves are prohibited. Also just read something about the Steelers possibly being able to use a roster exemption for him, which would mean they don't have to pay him while he's on it. Not sure, still trying to decipher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 5, 2018 yeah, but i think that happens around the same time as the trade deadline, at which point i think FA moves are prohibited. Also just read something about the Steelers possibly being able to use a roster exemption for him, which would mean they don't have to pay him while he's on it. Not sure, still trying to decipher. Teams sign free agents all the time later in the season. It's how they keep their roster full when injuries happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chachacha 9 Posted September 5, 2018 Ok.. would you drop marlon mack for jaylen samuels? I have Bell and conner already. My other RBs are Mark Ingram, Royce Freeman, and Jamaal Williams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted September 5, 2018 yeah, but i think that happens around the same time as the trade deadline, at which point i think FA moves are prohibited. Also just read something about the Steelers possibly being able to use a roster exemption for him, which would mean they don't have to pay him while he's on it. Not sure, still trying to decipher. he has to be signed to use the roster exemption. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 5, 2018 Teams sign free agents all the time later in the season. It's how they keep their roster full when injuries happen Yeah, the last time I remember this happening was Vincent Jackson, who waited until Week 10 to report. Interestingly, that situation brings up an aside for the Bell fiasco. That 10 week hold out meant Jackson made less than $600k for that season. The next season, the Chargers hit him with the franchise tag again, but this time it was computed at 110% of his previous salary, which was less than $600k. I'm wondering if this would apply to Bell as well. The Steelers would only owe him 144% of what he actually makes this year, meaning they could conceivably (under that rule if it still exists) tender him again next year at less than 7.5 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 5, 2018 he has to be signed to use the roster exemption. They didn't with Vincent Jackson if I remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 5, 2018 Ok.. would you drop marlon mack for jaylen samuels? I have Bell and conner already. My other RBs are Mark Ingram, Royce Freeman, and Jamaal Williams That's a tough one. Mack should be in line for being the primary guy at some point (one would hope) when he's healthy. I'd rather have a starting RB than what amounts to a backup's backup. But it depends on how close Mack is to returning, I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites