cbfalcon 825 Posted September 29, 2018 Sounds like a number of you believe that Ford believes her story is true....AND you believe Kavanaugh believes his story is true. So if that is the case, which is more common? Someone being 100% sure about a person that attacked them.....or someone that has admitted to drinking quite a bit back then having a few occassions in which they drank too much and may not remember everything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted September 29, 2018 a few occassions in which they drank too much and may not remember everything? Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted September 29, 2018 That is a terrible polygraph. A good one starts with baseline questions, to determine the subject's physiological parameters. That test meant nothing. So let me get this right...they only asked 2 questions and no baseline? Thats not even a real thing. LMAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted September 29, 2018 Leaning on the claim that "she passed a polygraph" without questioning the nature of the polygraph is - at best - sloppy, and - at worst - dishonest. There were two questions (purportedly) in this polygraph. Any professional in that field understands that a credible poly starts with baseline questions to determine the individuals base reactions. Without that, you have nothing here. Worse: you have a polygraph which was conducted merely to claim that she "passed a polygraph". I believe that what happened is that she had MULTIPLE polygraphs. They have presented for the public's consumption the one that she 'passed'. She passed the shittiest one (IMO). Supposedly she was asked baseline questions. Then she was asked the 2 relevant questions, neither of which were about anything specific or mentioned Kavanaugh by name. She also stated in the hearing that she was in tears during the polygraph, which should disqualify it immediately. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,601 Posted September 29, 2018 Sounds like a number of you believe that Ford believes her story is true....AND you believe Kavanaugh believes his story is true. So if that is the case, which is more common? Someone being 100% sure about a person that attacked them.....or someone that has admitted to drinking quite a bit back then having a few occassions in which they drank too much and may not remember everything? You want to decide this thing on general statistics? I'll pass. Let's focus on the facts of this case. Let me throw some back at you. Ford has named numerous people who she claims were at the party, including a good friend of her TO THIS DAY. Every one of them has said they don't remember any such party, and her friend has said she has never met Kavanaugh. So, on one side we have some chick saying he did this 35 years ago and giving vague details on the incident, the only specifics seeming to be the people who were there. Yet we have those people saying they can't remember such a gathering. What is more likely to be true, that her memory regarding whatever traumatic incident she experienced as a teen isn't great, or that all the people she said were there are mistaken? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,601 Posted September 29, 2018 Supposedly she was asked baseline questions. Then she was asked the 2 relevant questions, neither of which were about anything specific or mentioned Kavanaugh by name. She also stated in the hearing that she was in tears during the polygraph, which should disqualify it immediately. The full report on the polygraph is posted online Mobb_Sho posted a link earlier. There were no baseline questions asked. Just two questions. Period Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 29, 2018 Fords attorney already saying there should be no time limit on the investigation. Who couldve seen that coming? Like I said .. Jeebus. Give a a Christmas present shed cry it wasn't Hanukkah. Surely somebody's going to start seeing through her . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted September 29, 2018 Sounds like a number of you believe that Ford believes her story is true....AND you believe Kavanaugh believes his story is true. So if that is the case, which is more common? Someone being 100% sure about a person that attacked them.....or someone that has admitted to drinking quite a bit back then having a few occassions in which they drank too much and may not remember everything? Or option C: victim who can't remember any specifics (when, where, how she got there, who was there) perhaps is naming Kavanaugh as the perp because it is politically convenient? Whatever happened to the 2 guys who admitted to the crime? They testified this week twice, any updates? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted September 29, 2018 Sounds like a number of you believe that Ford believes her story is true....AND you believe Kavanaugh believes his story is true. So if that is the case, which is more common? Someone being 100% sure about a person that attacked them.....or someone that has admitted to drinking quite a bit back then having a few occassions in which they drank too much and may not remember everything? Who cares? Its a simple question. Is there proof? The answer is no. Confirm. That simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 29, 2018 No kidding, Let's assume the very worst of Kavanaugh. At worst, it's a fully clothed dry hump. As for the whole he tried to remove my one-piece bathing suit with his free hand!? I'll guarantee you even she couldn't remove a one-piece bathing suit that she's wearing with one hand. Much less Kavanaugh doing it allegedly while his other hand is on her mouth and he's laying on top of her. It's physically impossible. But this one event is traumatizing her 40 years later? Oh go yourself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted September 29, 2018 Four boys and two girls isn't a party, it's a small gathering your your best friends. These girls would have to be really close to these boys to go there, but the friend never heard of Brett Kavenaugh. CBF and her friend went to a house with four boys. CBF left after an attempted rape. CBF never told her friend there was an attempted rape by those four boys. The friend never went to their parties again anyway, ----------------------- Also Kavenaugh has actually kept a diary of everything since the 7th grade and never mentions her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted September 29, 2018 My post was to the people that said they believe Ford believes she is telling the truth. It wasnt for the people that believe Ford is making it up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted September 29, 2018 Sounds like a number of you believe that Ford believes her story is true....AND you believe Kavanaugh believes his story is true. So if that is the case, which is more common? Someone being 100% sure about a person that attacked them.....or someone that has admitted to drinking quite a bit back then having a few occassions in which they drank too much and may not remember everything? I believe Ford is telling a 30 year old, hyperbolic story, of a halfway sexual experience from when she was 15-16. She comes across as ultra sensitive. Some dude, at some point, made a drunken pass at her as a teenager at a party and she freaked. It may have even unbeknown to him, Kavanaugh, who didnt know WTF she was. But much like that 3 pound fish you caught 25 years ago as a kid, when you tell the story now, that SOB fought like hell and had to of weighed 10 pounds. Youd swear by it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,578 Posted September 29, 2018 Fords attorney already saying there should be no time limit on the investigation. Who couldve seen that coming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,601 Posted September 29, 2018 My post was to the people that said they believe Ford believes she is telling the truth. It wasnt for the people that believe Ford is making it up. I believe Ford believes she is telling the truth. It doesn't make it the truth. Now answer mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted September 29, 2018 Wasnt Joe Biden accused of things like touching young boys and touching women inappropriately? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,936 Posted September 29, 2018 Wasnt Joe Biden accused of things like touching young boys and touching women inappropriately? You're confusing "accused" with there are pictures and videos of Creepy Joe touching women and children inappropriately. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted September 29, 2018 You're confusing "accused" with there are pictures and videos of Creepy Joe touching women and children inappropriately. Ah I see. My mistake. I remember him being called creepy joe but couldnt remember the details (I sound like Ford now ). Surprised nothing came about from that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted September 29, 2018 I believe Ford believes she is telling the truth. It doesn't make it the truth. Now answer mine. What is more likely to be true, that her memory regarding whatever traumatic incident she experienced as a teen isn't great, or that all the people she said were there are mistaken? I think not remembering a random party in which nothing of note happened to ones self is common. It would make sense for the victim to have vivid memories whereas someone that didnt experience anything memorable that night wouldnt have any recall of the night....in my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,601 Posted September 29, 2018 What is more likely to be true, that her memory regarding whatever traumatic incident she experienced as a teen isn't great, or that all the people she said were there are mistaken? I think not remembering a random party in which nothing of note happened to ones self is common. It would make sense for the victim to have vivid memories whereas someone that didnt experience anything memorable that night wouldnt have any recall of the night....in my opinion Her good friend says she's never met Kavanaugh. We're not just talking about this one party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted September 29, 2018 What is more likely to be true, that her memory regarding whatever traumatic incident she experienced as a teen isn't great, or that all the people she said were there are mistaken? I think not remembering a random party in which nothing of note happened to ones self is common. It would make sense for the victim to have vivid memories whereas someone that didnt experience anything memorable that night wouldnt have any recall of the night....in my opinion Again, what we believed happened is irrelevant. The prosecutor brought in said, correctly, that she wouldnt even bring this near a courtroom. There isnt enough here to even bring charges, much less successfully prosecute them. This is like the opposite of reasonable doubt. Its become a search for any reasonable possibility. That simply isnt even remotely close to good enough to tarnish a mans reputation as far as it already has been. The us senate should be ashamed of itself for this farce. It would have embarrassed me to sit on that committee yesterday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted September 29, 2018 Again, what we believed happened is irrelevant. The prosecutor brought in said, correctly, that she wouldnt even bring this near a courtroom. There isnt enough here to even bring charges, much less successfully prosecute them. This is like the opposite of reasonable doubt. Its become a search for any reasonable possibility. That simply isnt even remotely close to good enough to tarnish a mans reputation as far as it already has been. The us senate should be ashamed of itself for this farce. It would have embarrassed me to sit on that committee yesterday. Right. Every DA in this country would kick this thing out without a second thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted September 29, 2018 Again, what we believed happened is irrelevant. The prosecutor brought in said, correctly, that she wouldnt even bring this near a courtroom. There isnt enough here to even bring charges, much less successfully prosecute them. This is like the opposite of reasonable doubt. Its become a search for any reasonable possibility. That simply isnt even remotely close to good enough to tarnish a mans reputation as far as it already has been. The us senate should be ashamed of itself for this farce. It would have embarrassed me to sit on that committee yesterday. At least you have enough common sense and objectivity to see that this who thing is BS. Nowadays, if you dont agree with left on things like this then youre automatically a right wing hack and also a white privileged male who doesnt understand anything. It really upsets me how far we have fallen in the past few years. Everything is political, everything is racist, everything is sexist, everything is homophobic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted September 29, 2018 Right. Every DA in this country would kick this thing out without a second thought. I think it would be interesting if Kavanaugh filed suits against the members of the committee individually. Yes, the public figure doctrine requires actual malice, but I think a number of them met that threshold. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted September 29, 2018 This is like the opposite of reasonable doubt. Its become a search for any reasonable possibility. That simply isnt even remotely close to good enough to tarnish a mans reputation as far as it already has This pretty much sums up the emotional tirades from the left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted September 29, 2018 I think it would be interesting if Kavanaugh filed suits against the members of the committee individually. Yes, the public figure doctrine requires actual malice, but I think a number of them met that threshold. If Waters' office is doxxing, thats gotta be malice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 29, 2018 Alrighty, unfortunately, I just caught video and audio of the crazy bitches that trapped flake in the elevator. I got to tell women they're not really helping their cause by bursting into tears and screeching as a means of making their case. either you're strong and mature and competent and every bit as good as men gosh darn it! or you're emotional feebs who are total fuucking basket cases of can't make their point without bursting into hysterics. Pick one. We'll work with it. But only one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 29, 2018 You know, I've seen the term doxing a few times before. It kind of reminds me of catfishing and woke. These are all terms that I guess I should make an effort to understand. But I seriously and genuinely don't give a shiit. Those three words are among many that just won't make it into my lexicon before I die. I can live with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted September 29, 2018 Alrighty, unfortunately, I just caught video and audio of the crazy bitches that trapped flake in the elevator. I got to tell women they're not really helping their cause by bursting into tears and screeching as a means of making their case. either you're strong and mature and competent and every bit as good as men gosh darn it! or you're emotional feebs who are total fuucking basket cases of can't make their point without bursting into hysterics. Pick one. We'll work with it. But only one. Told you they trapped him in the elevator. Figured they started screaming at him and crying. *Listen to me! I matter! My opinion matters! Do what I say to do!* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 29, 2018 If flake weren't so obviously prepping the run for president, he had a great opportunity. If he were actually just walking away from politics for good? He could have had a fuucking ball with these broads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,916 Posted September 29, 2018 If I were innocent I'd welcome an FBI observation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,578 Posted September 29, 2018 If I were innocent I'd welcome an FBI observation.The FBI has already conducted several background checks on him. One more isn't going to turn up anything incriminating. It's a waste of time and resources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,916 Posted September 29, 2018 One more or ten more, if you're innocent nothing to fear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 29, 2018 If I were innocent I'd welcome an FBI observation. You hush up now. You haven't been 'innocent' since the Carter Administration. The urinals at the Apollo haven't seen as much black cack as your snaggletoothed yapper. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,578 Posted September 29, 2018 One more or ten more, if you're innocent nothing to fear.Ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,916 Posted September 29, 2018 Am investigation will help clear the air of suspicion around him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted September 29, 2018 If I were innocent I'd welcome an FBI observation. The problem here is once one starts they are gonna push for more than just seeing if he sexually assaulted her or not. They are gonna try their hardest to find something on him. Which is what bothers me more than anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 29, 2018 Am investigation will help clear the air of suspicion around him. ! Remember when the hearing was supposed to do that? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,578 Posted September 29, 2018 Am investigation will help clear the air of suspicion around him.You pay your taxes so you should welcome an IRS audit or ten. Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted September 29, 2018 So Feinsteins ruse worked. Nice job Flake. Weakling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites