Big Guy 1,414 Posted March 28, 2019 DeMarcus Lawrence turns down 6 YR / $120 Million Dollar DealĀ Ā Next! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted March 28, 2019 13 hours ago, Big Guy said: DeMarcus Lawrence turns down 6 YR / $120 Million Dollar DealĀ Ā Next! Tank Lawrence has Dallas over a barrel... The Boys haves absolutely nobody to fill his role and the rest of the line (as a unit) either sucks or is disintegrating before our eyes.. The kicker part is, Tank needs shoulder surgery. Lawrence is willing to have it preformed now and be ready for the start of the season - but he wants his deal 1st... If Dallas Franchises him again, Tank said he will wait until the start of the season to have the surgery, thus missing the year... And since he's hurt, you can't' exactly trade him. * I would rather pay Lawrence than Dak. * Lawrence 1st said he wanted $20m a year, then changed his mind and demandedĀ $22m. * If the difference is $2m - both sides should come a compromise and figure it out. * if an deal can't be meant - fock'm.. Let him sit out and make due. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Cruzer said: Tank Lawrence has Dallas over a barrel... The Boys haves absolutely nobody to fill his role and the rest of the line (as a unit) either sucks or is disintegrating before our eyes.. The kicker part is, Tank needs shoulder surgery. Lawrence is willing to have it preformed now and be ready for the start of the season - but he wants his deal 1st... If Dallas Franchises him again, Tank said he will wait until the start of the season to have the surgery, thus missing the year... And since he's hurt, you can't' exactly trade him. * I would rather pay Lawrence than Dak. * Lawrence 1st said he wanted $20m a year, then changed his mind and demandedĀ $22m. * If the difference is $2m - both sides should come a compromise and figure it out. * if an deal can't be meant - fock'm.. Let him sit out and make due. The Cowboys offer was already too high IMO. The Salary Cap plus the over inflated ego on these "Superstar" Players is pretty much unmanageable. If I were an owner I'd be all about finding hungry, raw, talented players and paying them the minimum then letting them walk when they become too pricey. Next man up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,704 Posted March 28, 2019 NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Cowboys are expected to acquire Dolphins DE Robert Quinn. Rapsheet reports there are still "minor issues" to be worked out ā we have heard that one before ā but that the deal will get done. He is reportedly fetching a late-round pick. Rapsheet's colleague Tom Pelissero reports Quinn, who is currently due $11.811 million, is expected to agree to a new one-year deal. No longer the pass-rushing force he briefly was earlier in his career, 29-year-old Quinn is still good for 6-8 sacks per season. He will provide a non-trivial boost to the Cowboys' Randy Gregory-less defensive line. RELATED:Ā Dallas Cowboys SOURCE:Ā Ian Rapoport on Twitter Mar 28, 2019, 10:32 AM 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted March 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Cowboys are expected to acquire Dolphins DE Robert Quinn. Rapsheet reports there are still "minor issues" to be worked out ā we have heard that one before ā but that the deal will get done. He is reportedly fetching a late-round pick. Rapsheet's colleague Tom Pelissero reports Quinn, who is currently due $11.811 million, is expected to agree to a new one-year deal. No longer the pass-rushing force he briefly was earlier in his career, 29-year-old Quinn is still good for 6-8 sacks per season. He will provide a non-trivial boost to the Cowboys' Randy Gregory-less defensive line. RELATED:Ā Dallas Cowboys SOURCE:Ā Ian Rapoport on Twitter Mar 28, 2019, 10:32 AM Another 1 year deal. Ā Can heĀ stay healthy enough to make an impact on this d line? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted March 28, 2019 Quinn is a kneeler. Jerruh needs to get that boy in lineĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted March 28, 2019 Seems like the cowboys window is already closing. Ā But not sure it was even open to begin with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said: Seems like the cowboys window is already closing. Ā But not sure it was even open to begin with? Shockingly, they were in the hunt last year. Ā With a bit more luck and a little more talentĀ to take the pressure off an average QB and a below average coach, you never know. Ā I give em credit forĀ trying something.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted March 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, vuduchile said: Shockingly, they were in the hunt last year. Ā With a bit more luck and a little more talentĀ to take the pressure off an average QB and a below average coach, you never know. Ā I give em credit forĀ trying something.Ā I feel it was a fluke. Ā Wasnt the sky falling for cowboy fans for most of the year? Ā Im just trying to understand the cap situation. Ā They arent in terrible shape right now. Ā But they have SO MANY FAs in 2020. Ā Dak. Collins. Jones. Heath. Jaylon Smith. Hurns. Cooper. Cobb. Quinn. Lee. Ā Then of course the Lawrence situation right now. Ā Just seems like next year they will lose some key players. Ā Dak better improve this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted March 29, 2019 19 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: I feel it was a fluke. Ā Wasnt the sky falling for cowboy fans for most of the year?Ā Ā 2016, one could argue, was just as detrimental to this team as it was successful. Yes the run was funĀ - but that false sense of security set this team back years. Out of that came a belief that Dak was (and is) a franchise qb, that you can win just running the ball and that you compete with average defensive talent. Last year for the most part was a fluke. This team was dead in the water, ridingĀ 3-5 and headed to Philly, Atlanta and NO. Who knew Philly would be so banged up, that Atlanta had given up and that they would actually beat NO. .. But in the end, Indy and the Rams both exposed this team for what it is - average. Dak is not a drop back pocket passer - never has been. And as long as this team insists on treating him like one - we will never flourish. Factor into account Jerry is about to pay him out him out the ass - we are going to be spinning our wheels for a long damn time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted March 31, 2019 On 3/29/2019 at 10:27 PM, Cruzer said: 2016, one could argue, was just as detrimental to this team as it was successful. Yes the run was funĀ - but that false sense of security set this team back years. Out of that came a belief that Dak was (and is) a franchise qb, that you can win just running the ball and that you compete with average defensive talent. Last year for the most part was a fluke. This team was dead in the water, ridingĀ 3-5 and headed to Philly, Atlanta and NO. Who knew Philly would be so banged up, that Atlanta had given up and that they would actually beat NO. .. But in the end, Indy and the Rams both exposed this team for what it is - average. Dak is not a drop back pocket passer - never has been. And as long as this team insists on treating him like one - we will never flourish. Factor into account Jerry is about to pay him out him out the ass - we are going to be spinning our wheels for a long damn time. Yep. You're in a similar boat to my Titans, quarterback wise anyway. There's practically a civil war on the Titans forum between the resign Mariota faction and the let him walk faction. I am of the latter faction, as Mariota is mediocre are best and often not even that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 572 Posted March 31, 2019 The bigger issue is mediocre at best is still gonna probably cost 15 to 20 million a year. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted April 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Kopy said: The bigger issue is mediocre at best is still gonna probably cost 15 to 20 million a year. Ā Yep. That's why I advocate the Titans let Mariota walk and draft a rookie. If your going to have mediocre with weeks of terrible, might as well get it for cheap. And maybe you get lucky and get live one. The roster is good enough to make the playoffs with just ok qb play. Don't overpay for average.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted May 9, 2019 Now we know who was the missing link, this explains why we've haven't been back yet to the Big Game.Ā Oh how I wish this is the way it happened.... Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted July 15, 2019 Iconic 1977 Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders poster will hang in the Smithsonian https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/02/24/iconic-1977-dallas-cowboys-cheerleader-poster-will-hang-smithsonian?fbclid=IwAR3yqbBeDtnxRIbKO4o6w_H_mBcjuw2zRt7yOyjJaPrnq7HjxmikJcnV1PI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted July 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Big Guy said: Iconic 1977 Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders poster will hang in the Smithsonian https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/02/24/iconic-1977-dallas-cowboys-cheerleader-poster-will-hang-smithsonian?fbclid=IwAR3yqbBeDtnxRIbKO4o6w_H_mBcjuw2zRt7yOyjJaPrnq7HjxmikJcnV1PI This is one of 3 posters I had in my bedroom when I was a teenager.Ā The other 2 were Loni Anderson and Van Halen. Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted July 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, vuduchile said: This is one of 3 posters I had in my bedroom when I was a teenager.Ā The other 2 were Loni Anderson and Van Halen. Ā Nice! ......mine were this, Farrah Fawcett, and and tons of centerfolds from Creem, Circus & Onmi magazines.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted August 20, 2019 "Zeke who?" Jerrah sure got #21's panties in a wad - Zeke not happy about the comment and feeling 'disrespected'... Well you know what you stupid sumbiitch - Dallas isn't happy that you're holding out, it's disrespectful for you to not honor your contract and report to camp....... I hope Zeke stays away - fock'm. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ezekiel-elliott-agent-found-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-zeke-who-joke-disrespectful/ Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,505 Posted August 20, 2019 Iām sort of torn here. Zeke has 2 years left and he should honor that. On the other hand, the rookie wage scale arguably hurts RBs more than any other position, since backs tend to peak early in their careers.Ā Mostly I am just glad to see dysfunction in Big D and hoping they pay Dak $30m/year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, MDC said: Iām sort of torn here. Zeke has 2 years left and he should honor that. On the other hand, the rookie wage scale arguably hurts RBs more than any other position, since backs tend to peak early in their careers.Ā Mostly I am just glad to see dysfunction in Big D and hoping they pay Dak $30m/year. The problem is it's not just two more years.Ā They can franchise him for 2-3 more.Ā Then he's 28-29 years old.Ā Not every running back is Adrian Peterson.Ā If I were him I wouldn't count on being the same player I am now when I'm 29.Ā RB's get screwed in this system.Ā I normally side with the owners but in this case I understand why Zeke wants a real contract now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted August 20, 2019 I wish I was getting screwed like Zeke.Ā Ā https://overthecap.com/player/ezekiel-elliott/4717/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, bostonlager said: I wish I was getting screwed like Zeke.Ā Ā https://overthecap.com/player/ezekiel-elliott/4717/ Don't be jealous.Ā If you'd applied yourself more you could have been one of the best RB's in the NFL too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, Strike said: Don't be jealous.Ā If you'd applied yourself more you could have been one of the best RB's in the NFL too. No doubt and if he wants more money he should learn to hit homeruns or shoot 3 points.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,704 Posted August 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Strike said: The problem is it's not just two more years.Ā They can franchise him for 2-3 more.Ā Then he's 28-29 years old.Ā Not every running back is Adrian Peterson.Ā If I were him I wouldn't count on being the same player I am now when I'm 29.Ā RB's get screwed in this system.Ā I normally side with the owners but in this case I understand why Zeke wants a real contract now. It is all part of the CBA the Players Union approved. Blame the Union not the owners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted August 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, bostonlager said: I wish I was getting screwed like Zeke.Ā Ā https://overthecap.com/player/ezekiel-elliott/4717/ Agreed. Nobody made Zeke sign his $25m contract - and he sure and hell didn't seem disrespected or unappreciated when he cashed that $16m signing bonus check. One can make the argument RBs get screwed under the current system - fair enuff. But that's a fight for another day. This is the biz and system Zeke chose to be in... And it's nobody's fault but his own that he's not rolling in $$ off endorsement deals - his own stupidity and childish behavior is on him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, Baker Boy said: It is all part of the CBA the Players Union approved. Blame the Union not the owners. I'm not blaming anyone.Ā Just commenting on how it is based upon the current rules.Ā I realize the players made their own bed.Ā And the one option they have is to not show up and Zeke is availing himself of that option.Ā Jerry doesn't have to budge.Ā We'll see how good the Cowboys are without their best offensive weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,505 Posted August 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Strike said: The problem is it's not just two more years.Ā They can franchise him for 2-3 more.Ā Then he's 28-29 years old.Ā Not every running back is Adrian Peterson.Ā If I were him I wouldn't count on being the same player I am now when I'm 29.Ā RB's get screwed in this system.Ā I normally side with the owners but in this case I understand why Zeke wants a real contract now. Thatās a good point and youāre totally right. I think Zeke is a complete doosh but I canāt really blame him for trying to get paid while his value is at its highest. He is far more valuable to the Cowboys than Dak and he knows it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted August 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, MDC said: Thatās a good point and youāre totally right. I think Zeke is a complete doosh but I canāt really blame him for trying to get paid while his value is at its highest. He is far more valuable to the Cowboys than Dak and he knows it. Maybe 30 years ago. I'd argue kickers are more important in today's game than RBs. Look at New England - a white guy and some middle round picks.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,505 Posted August 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, bostonlager said: Maybe 30 years ago. I'd argue kickers are more important in today's game than RBs. Look at New England - a white guy and some middle round picks.Ā I think youāve overstating your case by a mile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted August 20, 2019 As a Cowboys fan, it wouldn't bother me if Zeke never suited up again.Ā He's too much of knucklehead off the field and has already cost the team a great deal because of it.Ā However, the Cowboys need to have a viable replacement right now in order to have a fighting chance.Ā Maybe they have that in Pollard, but who knows? I'd hate to see another year wasted experimenting with RBs like they did when Murray left.Ā Ā Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted August 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, MDC said: I think youāve overstating your case by a mile. There are fewer NFL caliber kickers on the planet than their are running backs. There are running backs on the street right now that could be signed and rush for 1000 yards this year.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, vuduchile said: As a Cowboys fan, it wouldn't bother me if Zeke never suited up again.Ā He's too much of knucklehead off the field and has already cost the team a great deal because of it.Ā However, the Cowboys need to have a viable replacement right now in order to have a fighting chance.Ā Maybe they have that in Pollard, but who knows? I'd hate to see another year wasted experimenting with RBs like they did when Murray left. Ā Poor Opie, another year on the bubble with half a roster and with a QB that every fan secretly (or openly) wants to fail so they can get rid of him.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,505 Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, bostonlager said: There are fewer NFL caliber kickers on the planet than their are running backs. There are running backs on the street right now that could be signed and rush for 1000 yards this year.Ā Stop. There were 24 RBs drafted in 2019 and eleven of them went before the only placekicker to get drafted in Round 5. The league sure seems to value RB more than kicker.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted August 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, MDC said: Stop. There were 24 RBs drafted in 2019 and eleven of them went before the only placekicker to get drafted in Round 5. The league sure seems to value RB more than kicker.Ā Leveon Bell was literally replaced with cancer. Stillers haven't missed a beat.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted August 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, vuduchile said: Maybe they have that in Pollard, but who knows?Ā Ā Pollard has looked fantastic - much to be excited about with him. I'd love to see him get a shot. My only concern is pass protection - he's still pretty green there. I'm not sure how much they will trust him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted August 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cruzer said: Pollard has looked fantastic - much to be excited about with him. I'd love to see him get a shot. My only concern is pass protection - he's still pretty green there. I'm not sure how much they will trust him. Hmm.Ā Buncha no names behind him, so they probably won't trust them either.Ā Maybe they could signĀ FA to help.Ā I don't know who's out there though.Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, vuduchile said: Hmm.Ā Buncha no names behind him, so they probably won't trust them either.Ā Maybe they could signĀ FA to help.Ā I don't know who's out there though.Ā Ā I think that's why they brought Morris back... Which speaking of, is as slim and quick as he's ever been (word out of camp). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted August 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, MDC said: Stop. There were 24 RBs drafted in 2019 and eleven of them went before the only placekicker to get drafted in Round 5. The league sure seems to value RB more than kicker.Ā Again, anotherĀ stupid comment. Kickers don't get hurt or age out quicklyĀ genius, and if they are good there is no need to replace them. Let their attrition rate be the same as a rb's and they would start getting drafted earlier.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted August 20, 2019 56 minutes ago, Cruzer said: I think that's why they brought Morris back... Which speaking of, is as slim and quick as he's ever been (word out of camp). I didnāt realize they brought him back. Ā That might work.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,414 Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Cruzer said: "Zeke who?" Jerrah sure got #21's panties in a wad - Zeke not happy about the comment and feeling 'disrespected'... Well you know what you stupid sumbiitch - Dallas isn't happy that you're holding out, it's disrespectful for you to not honor your contract and report to camp....... I hope Zeke stays away - fock'm. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ezekiel-elliott-agent-found-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-zeke-who-joke-disrespectful/ Ā I fully agree......time to trade his ass for all it's worth!!!Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites