Fears of a second civil war grow among democrat & republican pundits

[RLLD 4,251]

I simply cannot see how Democrats manage to control the terrorists they created for long.

Biden was recently caught alluding to some capitulation to these terrorists, but chastised people to wait until after the Georgia election to let the word out.....because HE FOCKING KNOWS what they believe is poisonous and rancid and would likely tilt the Georgia election away from Dems.....he knows this sh!t is garbage, but is forced to give into the terrorists to appease them.....its insane

[JustinCharge 2,397]

17 hours ago, OldMaid said:

WTAF is going on in this thread? Did Sderp steal JustinCharge’s login?

The civil war stuff was looney, but to actually imply that Clinton didn’t get hammered for the .com bubble is insane. Sure he was beloved for his personality, but he was a shitty president.

You are completely insane if you think he got criticized for the dotcom bubble. 

I also notice not ONE of the people who think it is insane to say this has provided evidence he got hammered.  News articles in major publications.  Biographical information.  You have NO PROOF of anything.  You just assert.  Show me what you have on the media attacking Clinton for the dotcom crash, and then we will compare it to what Bush endured for the 2008 crisis.

But we already know you have nothing.  It doesn't exist.  You are lying.

Here, I can start the ball rolling.  May 2001 article from Harvard Business Review.  They ask who is to blame for the dotcom crash.  Their villain?  CAPITALISM.  Bill Clinton isn't even MENTIONED.

https://hbr.org/2001/05/whos-to-blame-for-the-bubble

Which brings us to the real culprit: the capital markets. Venture capitalists bear a marked responsibility for the dot-com disaster, as do the investment banks and brokerage houses that hyped dot-com shares.

[MDC 7,480]

Just did a Google search for Bill Clinton + dot com bubble. It pulled up hundreds of sites criticizing his economic record, many of them left leaning or outright liberal. Here are 2.

Salon:

https://www.salon.com/2016/05/17/bubbas_toxic_economic_legacy_when_hillary_brags_about_the_first_clinton_presidency_legacy_she_doesnt_want_you_to_remember_this/

The Nation:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thenation.com/article/archive/note-to-hillary-clintonomics-was-a-disaster-for-most-americans/tnamp/

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Article on republicans looking to object to the Electoral College results.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/playing-fire-gop-sen-ben-135000602.html

'Playing with fire': GOP Sen. Ben Sasse tears into Republicans planning to object to Electoral College results
Lauren Egan
Thu, December 31, 2020, 5:50 AM PST

Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., tore into Republicans who plan to object during the certification of the Electoral College vote next week, saying his party's willingness to entertain President Donald Trump's unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in this year's election was fueled by worries about how the president and his base would react.

"The president and his allies are playing with fire," Sasse said in a lengthy Facebook post Wednesday night. "If you make big claims, you had better have the evidence. But the president doesn’t and neither do the institutional arsonist members of Congress who will object to the Electoral College vote."

Earlier Wednesday, Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., announced that he would object to the certification of some states' Electoral College results Jan. 6, a move that will force his Republican colleagues to vote on whether to reject Trump's false claims of fraud or disenfranchise millions of voters.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Just did a Google search for Bill Clinton + dot com bubble. It pulled up hundreds of sites criticizing his economic record, many of them left leaning or outright liberal. Here are 2.

Salon:

https://www.salon.com/2016/05/17/bubbas_toxic_economic_legacy_when_hillary_brags_about_the_first_clinton_presidency_legacy_she_doesnt_want_you_to_remember_this/

The Nation:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thenation.com/article/archive/note-to-hillary-clintonomics-was-a-disaster-for-most-americans/tnamp/

 

Those are written in 2016.  I'm talking about being critical when it was going down. The political impact of a critique in 2016 on a president from 2000 is pretty much zero.  Its a safe article for the left to write.

[MDC 7,480]

3 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Those are written in 2016.  I'm talking about being critical when it was going down. The political impact of a critique in 2016 on a president from 2000 is pretty much zero.  Its a safe article for the left to write.

In 2016 Hillary was running for POTUS on Bubba’s economic record. She took loads of grief for NAFTA too.

[RLLD 4,251]

Clinton played a role in the eventual real estate bubble and collapse, but her was more of a useful idiot than actor.   Greenspan was supposed to be watching and at the wheel, but wasnt.   As with most Democrat policies they end up crushing the people they pretend to want to help.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,491]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Just did a Google search for Bill Clinton + dot com bubble. It pulled up hundreds of sites criticizing his economic record, many of them left leaning or outright liberal. Here are 2.

Salon:

https://www.salon.com/2016/05/17/bubbas_toxic_economic_legacy_when_hillary_brags_about_the_first_clinton_presidency_legacy_she_doesnt_want_you_to_remember_this/

The Nation:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thenation.com/article/archive/note-to-hillary-clintonomics-was-a-disaster-for-most-americans/tnamp/

 

2016. When those left wing publications were in the tank for Bernie and trying to derail Hillary  The Nation for gods sake.  You have no clue. Only took them 16 years. Stop to wonder why? No.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Now all the liberals calling me insane for telling them Bill Clinton wasn't being attacked for the dotcom crash are scurrying and hiding.  lol  They have produced ZERO articles to back up their claim from 2000/2001 (so that we may compare them to now the media treated Bush in 2008). 

As usual, full of bullsh!t claims.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,491]

8 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Now all the liberals calling me insane for telling them Bill Clinton wasn't being attacked for the dotcom crash are scurrying and hiding.  lol  They have produced ZERO articles to back up their claim from 2000/2001 (so that we may compare them to now the media treated Bush in 2008). 

As usual, full of bullsh!t claims.

Yup. Trotting out articles from 2016. Laughable. From The Nation no less. About 200 people read that far left rag. 

[Rusty Syringes 478]

3 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

Those are written in 2016.  I'm talking about being critical when it was going down. The political impact of a critique in 2016 on a president from 2000 is pretty much zero.  Its a safe article for the left to write.

I remember a hell of a lot of finger pointing at Bill Clinton at the time for the dotcom bust and then the recession. The crazy 2000 election followed by Sept. 11 put that story in the back seat, though. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,491]

8 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

I remember a hell of a lot of finger pointing at Bill Clinton at the time for the dotcom bust and then the recession. The crazy 2000 election followed by Sept. 11 put that story in the back seat, though. 

Yeah, CNN and the nightly news were all over it.  

[MDC 7,480]

This guy thinks Clinton is the best POTUS of our lifetime:

  

[OldMaid 2,130]

4 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

You are completely insane if you think he got criticized for the dotcom bubble. 

I also notice not ONE of the people who think it is insane to say this has provided evidence he got hammered.  News articles in major publications.  Biographical information.  You have NO PROOF of anything.  You just assert.  Show me what you have on the media attacking Clinton for the dotcom crash, and then we will compare it to what Bush endured for the 2008 crisis.

But we already know you have nothing.  It doesn't exist.  You are lying.

Here, I can start the ball rolling.  May 2001 article from Harvard Business Review.  They ask who is to blame for the dotcom crash.  Their villain?  CAPITALISM.  Bill Clinton isn't even MENTIONED.

https://hbr.org/2001/05/whos-to-blame-for-the-bubble

Which brings us to the real culprit: the capital markets. Venture capitalists bear a marked responsibility for the dot-com disaster, as do the investment banks and brokerage houses that hyped dot-com shares.

 Not even sure how you found this as I can’t even bring it up in an internet search. Good luck finding anything that old.

But like Rusty, I remember it. And why would anyone need to lie about it? I don’t need to make up stuff about Clinton to make you look bad. You can do that all on your own.

[nobody 2,690]

4 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

Now all the liberals calling me insane for telling them Bill Clinton wasn't being attacked for the dotcom crash are scurrying and hiding.  lol  They have produced ZERO articles to back up their claim from 2000/2001 (so that we may compare them to now the media treated Bush in 2008). 

As usual, full of bullsh!t claims.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but you claimed Bill Clinton's wikipedia page not blaming the dot-com crash on him was proof media didn't pin it on him.  Wikipedia didn't even exist in 2000/2001.  Now you want people to dig up articles from 20 years ago?  You'd have better luck going to your library and digging through micro-fiche.  News media was retarded back then and didn't realize the internet was going to make newspapers obsolete.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

I have been banned and mocked for starting civil wars threads on other political forums repeatedly.  They say "x will cause a civil war!" whenever I post something.  Just like the liberals do here.  But in the past month, these people have started using the terms insurrection, rebellion in describing republican actions.  So I switched over to their term while mocking the hell out of the forum for blasting me.  I dunno if it will earn me more bans or what, but I just use the terms they use now. 

I am waiting to see if they will BOTH mock me for warning of rebellion and insurrection while claiming the elected republicans are committing rebellion and insurrection.  That would be quite a sign of a broken mind but I am not putting it past them.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

20 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

I am waiting to see if they will BOTH mock me for warning of rebellion and insurrection while claiming the elected republicans are committing rebellion and insurrection.  That would be quite a sign of a broken mind but I am not putting it past them.

This has been pretty close so far.  If I warn of rebellion or insurrection, they say I am a nazi.  Meanwhile, they complain about insurrection and rebellion.  So basically you aren't allowed to speak unless you are a radical liberal lol.

[MDC 7,480]

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

19 minutes ago, MDC said:

I am a bot. I personally attack people or run guilt trips.  I will keep doing it.  Because I am a bot.

 

[nobody 2,690]

13 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

 

That bot thing you like to do makes me think you're autistic as hell.  Are you on the spectrum by chance?

[MDC 7,480]

You’ve been predicting civil war for almost two years now. In the meantime we’ve had a pandemic lockdown, mass protests, wildfires, a contentious election etc. Know what we haven’t had? Civil war.

At what point do you say “Guess I was wrong.”  

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 hours ago, MDC said:

You’ve been predicting civil war for almost two years now. In the meantime we’ve had a pandemic lockdown, mass protests, wildfires, a contentious election etc. Know what we haven’t had? Civil war.

At what point do you say “Guess I was wrong.”  

We've been seeing acts of civil war over the past year+ in Seattle, Chicago, NY, Portland, etc. Remember when the first time the conservatives protested something and all the looney left left came out to start violence?  Not sure what you have been paying attention to other than maybe your favorite Facts of Life episodes.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

You’ve been predicting civil war for almost two years now. In the meantime we’ve had a pandemic lockdown, mass protests, wildfires, a contentious election etc. Know what we haven’t had? Civil war.

At what point do you say “Guess I was wrong.”  

You either missed the ENTIRE point of this thread or are a troll.

This thread's purpose is to try to brainstorm solutions to PREVENT civil war. As such, I am thrilled it hasn't happened yet.  It gives more time to think of solutions.   Its not about predicting the exact freaking date and time.

How dumb ARE you???

[MDC 7,480]

1 minute ago, JustinCharge said:

You either missed the ENTIRE point of this thread or are a troll.

This thread's purpose is to try to brainstorm solutions to PREVENT civil war. As such, I am thrilled it hasn't happened yet.  It gives more time to think of solutions.   Its not about predicting the exact freaking date and time.

How dumb ARE you???

You may as well start brainstorming ways to avoid the zombie apocalypse.

That’s not happening either.  

[Utilit99 4,099]

6 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

You either missed the ENTIRE point of this thread or are a troll.

This thread's purpose is to try to brainstorm solutions to PREVENT civil war. As such, I am thrilled it hasn't happened yet.  It gives more time to think of solutions.   Its not about predicting the exact freaking date and time.

How dumb ARE you???

He's a self proclaimed 20+ year troll. That's your answer straight from mr. and mrs. 's mouth. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

8 minutes ago, MDC said:

You may as well start brainstorming ways to avoid the zombie apocalypse.

That’s not happening either.  

What is sad is you liberals KEEP doing this.  You keep not understand this thread even tho I keep explaining it you.  Every single one of you have come in here and focked up and tried to say this is about predicting the focking exact millisecond.  LOL.  Sooooo dumb.

[MDC 7,480]

2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

He's a self proclaimed 20+ year troll. That's your answer straight from mr. and mrs. 's mouth. 

I’ve been here for 20 years. You got banned within weeks for dropping n bombs and spend all day on Christmas swordfighting like a lonely phag.

Peefoam.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Pelosi's home was targeted with violence and threats on new years eve.  The attackers seemed to be from the left however, as they had leftist demands such as cancel rent and we want everything!

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/people-vandalize-nancy-pelosis-home-233944280.html

 

Nancy Pelosi's Home Reportedly Vandalized With Pig's Head and Fake Blood
Alex Montrose
Fri, January 1, 2021, 3:39 PM PST

Protestors targeted the home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on New Year’s Eve to send a message about the dire economic hardships facing so many Americans.

According to TMZ, Pelosi’s San Francisco home was vandalized Thursday evening. The people involved spray-painted her garage door with the words "Cancel Rent!" and "We Want Everything” in black. There’s also a reference to the failed $2,000 stimulus checks spray-painted on the garage.

Sitting in front of the door, the protestors left a pig’s head surrounded by fake blood plopped across the driveway. Law enforcement responded to calls reporting the vandalism at around 3:00 a.m., but so far, it’s unclear if there are any suspects.

People across the country expressed outrage at the insulting $600 direct stimulus checks, which passed with the COVID-19 relief package Donald Trump signed last weekend, criticizing both Democrats and Republicans for failing to address the extreme financial precarity so many are facing as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Both Trump and Joe Biden called for the checks to be increased to $2,000.

[Utilit99 4,099]

17 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’ve been here for 20 years. You got banned within weeks for dropping n bombs and spend all day on Christmas swordfighting like a lonely phag.

Peefoam.  

Why do you keep talking about pee? It's weird. Or is that something between you and your special significant other .

And it looks like on your profile you joined in 2004. Hmmm...

I'm gussing you will say something like, "oh yeah, Ummm,  I didn't get banned, I uh, forgot a password even though I've been trolling daily for 20 years on this site." 

[wiffleball 4,790]

I do my best not to reply to this just hoping you would die. How stupid are you to think that this is actually going to happen? I'm so moron. Moon Mars of his brain washed followers are figuring it out. They'll be some jackass like Rush Limbaugh for the rest of his life until he dies. Shut the fuk up

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

I do my best not to reply to this just hoping you would die.

wiff in a bottle. 

[nobody 2,690]

40 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Pelosi's home was targeted with violence and threats on new years eve.  The attackers seemed to be from the left however, as they had leftist demands such as cancel rent and we want everything!

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/people-vandalize-nancy-pelosis-home-233944280.html

 

Nancy Pelosi's Home Reportedly Vandalized With Pig's Head and Fake Blood
Alex Montrose
Fri, January 1, 2021, 3:39 PM PST

Protestors targeted the home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on New Year’s Eve to send a message about the dire economic hardships facing so many Americans.

According to TMZ, Pelosi’s San Francisco home was vandalized Thursday evening. The people involved spray-painted her garage door with the words "Cancel Rent!" and "We Want Everything” in black. There’s also a reference to the failed $2,000 stimulus checks spray-painted on the garage.

Sitting in front of the door, the protestors left a pig’s head surrounded by fake blood plopped across the driveway. Law enforcement responded to calls reporting the vandalism at around 3:00 a.m., but so far, it’s unclear if there are any suspects.

People across the country expressed outrage at the insulting $600 direct stimulus checks, which passed with the COVID-19 relief package Donald Trump signed last weekend, criticizing both Democrats and Republicans for failing to address the extreme financial precarity so many are facing as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Both Trump and Joe Biden called for the checks to be increased to $2,000.

Good post helping brainstorm solutions to prevent civil war.

[nobody 2,690]

33 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Why do you keep talking about pee? It's weird. Or is that something between you and your special significant other .

And it looks like on your profile you joined in 2004. Hmmm...

I'm gussing you will say something like, "oh yeah, Ummm,  I didn't get banned, I uh, forgot a password even though I've been trolling daily for 20 years on this site." 

He used to post under Monkey Death Car.  

[taco breath 424]

57 minutes ago, nobody said:

He used to post under Monkey Death Car.  

And he is super at karate.

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

He used to post under Monkey Death Car.  

I'm guessing he "forgot his user name password." After posting for years.  

[nobody 2,690]

3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

I'm guessing he "forgot his user name password." After having posted for years. 

I figured he shortened it because Monkey DeathCar was too easy to turn into something to rib him with.

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

I figured he shortened it because Monkey DeathCar was too easy to turn into something to rib him with.

Do folks on this site change their user names often?

[nobody 2,690]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Do folks on this site change their user names often?

Not that I’m aware of, but I don’t follow it that closely.

[Utilit99 4,099]

34 minutes ago, nobody said:

Not that I’m aware of, but I don’t follow it that closely.

Yeah, me neither. I just reply to what I read.. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

GOPs Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's home was also vandalized with messages apparently asking for the $2k stimulus money.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pelosi-mcconnell-homes-vandalized-congress-184831396.html

Messages like "where's my money" and other expletives were written with spray paint across the front door and bricks of the Kentucky Republican's house in Louisville. Police spokesman Dwight Mitchell said the incident happened around 5 a.m. Saturday and there was "minor damage of graffiti on a window and door." The department has no suspects.