Fears of a second civil war grow among democrat & republican pundits

[Voltaire 5,202]

19 minutes ago, Mrs. Voltaire said:

Honey come back to bed.  Stop arguing with americans.  I need you to lick my spot so I can sleep.

Yeah, they're a pretty stubborn lot and immune to reason and logic. They refuse to open links. 

Still I'm on the hook with a promise to open a link as soon as the VPN kicks in, so just rub your spot with the cactus again.

[vuduchile 1,945]

If yesterday's attack was the best they have, this civil war will be over by the weekend.   

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

3 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I really think the country could use a divorce. I posted this sentiment before, it's not related to yesterday's events. The left and right hate each other. When I look at the left all I see is societal rot, degeneracy, and cancer. I have zero faith in them whatsoever. Whatever they think of us, fock I don't care, I'm sure it's not pleasant. What I am sure of is that they don't want us around either. 

I don't want to fight a civil war but the country does need splitting, we can't stand each other and we don't want each other in our lives. Find some legislative agreement, amending the Constitution would likely be needed, and just wish each other farewell. 

 

This could not be further from the truth. I work with people that are both on the left and the right and they get along just fine at work. Even in families such as Jerry's and DonS for example there are people on the left and the right.

Why would someone hate someone else based on their political belief, disliking someone based on their opinion is frankly stupid. I understand that there may be 1-2 posters here that do "hate" lefties, but these are by far the most extreme of society and there is a reason they have 10,000+ posts a year on this message board. You do not want to judge society by the worst posters on a low rent bored.

 

Step back from the ledge Voltaire, the world is not ending and the country is doing fine. We just need to get over this issue of 1 person promoting a conspiracy theory.

[t.j 35]

4 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I really think the country could use a divorce. I posted this sentiment before, it's not related to yesterday's events. The left and right hate each other. When I look at the left all I see is societal rot, degeneracy, and cancer. I have zero faith in them whatsoever. Whatever they think of us, fock I don't care, I'm sure it's not pleasant. What I am sure of is that they don't want us around either. 

I don't want to fight a civil war but the country does need splitting, we can't stand each other and we don't want each other in our lives. Find some legislative agreement, amending the Constitution would likely be needed, and just wish each other farewell. 

Good idea. The cities can be one country and rural areas can be another. Thanks for saving the USA!

[Voltaire 5,202]

6 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

you should stay in China

I've already been here nineteen years and as of March or April or so last year, we took our school above ground and got it fully legalized and certified, stamps and documents, so i'll be here a while. When I was 29, I imagined a fiscal crisis brought on by rampant deficit spending. Well, we've had twenty more years of rampant deficit spending since then and the bottom hasn't fallen out, so maybe I was wrong. Right or wrong though, either way the system is proving to be way more resilient than I thought. 

I'd never imagined a cultural collapse though. 2020 caught me totally off guard. Until the George Washington statues hit the ground, I'd presumed the Woke cancer may be a passing phase. Instead of shocking us, we all just yawned, and now it's going to be spreading since it has a proponent in the White House rather than opposition. 

IMO, Biden* sucks for the US and Americans but as an expat in China, he benefits me in that he can lower the tensions between the countries which make things easier. The nearby US consulate I always use was closed in response to the rise in tensions between the two countries. As I type this, I don't even know where the nearest consulate is right now. I support Trump anyway despite this because I care for the country. His trade policies really benefit the community I grew up in which was hit hard with auto plant closures while I was young and it was the USMCA when I really warmed to him.

Anyway, I'm 49 and half retired and will likely be in this situation for another sixteen years. I may retire here but if I do return, I imagine I would be looking to the reddest part of a red state. Some place where the magic that makes America great hopefully still exists. I am glad that I have become so tied in here though, as the US has passed me by. We just watch it dissolve. Everyone shrugs.

I'm just so blackpilled and dejected. The country is just sinking culturally. The frog is being boiled. The biggest body blow for me was seeing them get away with rigging elections. I never thought I'd see Tammany Hall-era BS in the US in my lifetime. I thought it went out the door a hundred years ago but here we are. Even, worse, one of the places it happened was in Detroit. Meanwhile the 2020 deficit is $3.3 trillion and nobody cares. In years past, I would have seethed, this year, I'm numb. it's ... meh. Whatever. Like I told Hawkeye in the post above, I'm already in the process of tuning the news out.

Being in China has insulated me from most of this mess. I should take advantage of that.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

32 minutes ago, t.j said:

Good idea. The cities can be one country and rural areas can be another. Thanks for saving the USA!

Speaking for NY, it was pretty much like that. And it worked. Until Cuomo decided he wanted to run for president at some point. The federal government is too involved in the states . It’s not supposed to be like that. 

[TheNewGirl 1,355]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Speaking for NY, it was pretty much like that. And it worked. Until Cuomo decided he wanted to run for president at some point. The federal government is too involved in the states . It’s not supposed to be like that. 

The same thing is happening out in CA, I believe. Most of the coastal areas are blue, and they are moving to the valleys/foothill areas...because the coastal areas are too expensive. 

[Fnord 2,051]

49 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

This could not be further from the truth. I work with people that are both on the left and the right and they get along just fine at work. Even in families such as Jerry's and DonS for example there are people on the left and the right.

Why would someone hate someone else based on their political belief, disliking someone based on their opinion is frankly stupid. I understand that there may be 1-2 posters here that do "hate" lefties, but these are by far the most extreme of society and there is a reason they have 10,000+ posts a year on this message board. You do not want to judge society by the worst posters on a low rent bored.

 

Step back from the ledge Voltaire, the world is not ending and the country is doing fine. We just need to get over this issue of 1 person promoting a conspiracy theory.

Awomen. (sorry, couldn't resist)

The polarization is party, politician and media driven. From the street level, we're mostly ok. I live in a left leaning city in a left leaning state. During election season, our home was in the middle of a 6 home chain that had Biden signs in their yards. Across the street is a house that was decked out in Trump and several local republican signs. He owns a landscaping business. When it snowed last week, he was out with his UTV-mounted snowblower clearing the sidewalks for all of us. If my neighbor was in trouble, I don't GAF who he voted for, I'm gonna help him. Super nice people. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Awomen. (sorry, couldn't resist)

The polarization is party, politician and media driven. From the street level, we're mostly ok. I live in a left leaning city in a left leaning state. During election season, our home was in the middle of a 6 home chain that had Biden signs in their yards. Across the street is a house that was decked out in Trump and several local republican signs. He owns a landscaping business. When it snowed last week, he was out with his UTV-mounted snowblower clearing the sidewalks for all of us. If my neighbor was in trouble, I don't GAF who he voted for, I'm gonna help him. Super nice people. 

Pretty much the same thing here except for most people are right leaning.  It's really not that hard to put politics aside and be nice to others.

[nobody 2,567]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Awomen. (sorry, couldn't resist)

The polarization is party, politician and media driven. From the street level, we're mostly ok. I live in a left leaning city in a left leaning state. During election season, our home was in the middle of a 6 home chain that had Biden signs in their yards. Across the street is a house that was decked out in Trump and several local republican signs. He owns a landscaping business. When it snowed last week, he was out with his UTV-mounted snowblower clearing the sidewalks for all of us. If my neighbor was in trouble, I don't GAF who he voted for, I'm gonna help him. Super nice people. 

You wouldn't help him.  Lefties don't actually help people.  They demand the government help people and the right pay for it.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

15 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

The same thing is happening out in CA, I believe. Most of the coastal areas are blue, and they are moving to the valleys/foothill areas...because the coastal areas are too expensive. 

I’ve said it before, every governor in NY recognized the difference between rural/ suburban NY and the cites. NYC was pretty much let run itself and so was the rest of the state. I worked for 20 years in NYC and you barely heard from the governor of the state. When you did it was about economic issues. NYC sent the tax revenue to the state, and they were left alone for the most part. Until Cuomo came along. The guy barely mentions the rest of the state. They aren’t the ones that will get him the nomination. The city will. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Pretty much the same thing here except for most people are right leaning.  It's really not that hard to put politics aside and be nice to others.

Harder for others.  It's something we should all aspire to.

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

My issue is with the politicians and the media.  The thing is, the Democrats are the biggest pieces of crap of the bunch.  They can all go jump off a bridge for all I care.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

My issue is with the politicians and the media.  The thing is, the Democrats are the biggest pieces of crap of the bunch.  They can all go jump off a bridge for all I care.

Yup. Both suck but one has some really, really focked up plans for the country. 

[TheNewGirl 1,355]

1 hour ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

This could not be further from the truth. I work with people that are both on the left and the right and they get along just fine at work. Even in families such as Jerry's and DonS for example there are people on the left and the right.

Why would someone hate someone else based on their political belief, disliking someone based on their opinion is frankly stupid. I understand that there may be 1-2 posters here that do "hate" lefties, but these are by far the most extreme of society and there is a reason they have 10,000+ posts a year on this message board. You do not want to judge society by the worst posters on a low rent bored.

 

Step back from the ledge Voltaire, the world is not ending and the country is doing fine. We just need to get over this issue of 1 person promoting a conspiracy theory.

Now I see the opposite. I see plenty of friends and family members who've literally DISOWNED others because of their political party. I can't even count how many posts I saw on FB yesterday that literally said, "If you support Trump, defriend me NOW. I am done with you racist terrorists." A cousin of mine was literally called a "terrorist" because she was asking questions about how the media was just jumping to so many conclusions yesterday - someone interpreted this as her actually condoning what happened yesterday, when she made no type of statement at all. 

I stay quiet about a few of my beliefs mainly because I'd probably lose friends and family from both sides if they knew. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said:

Now I see the opposite. I see plenty of friends and family members who've literally DISOWNED others because of their political party. I can't even count how many posts I saw on FB yesterday that literally said, "If you support Trump, defriend me NOW. I am done with you racist terrorists." A cousin of mine was literally called a "terrorist" because she was asking questions about how the media was just jumping to so many conclusions yesterday - someone interpreted this as her actually condoning what happened yesterday, when she made no type of statement at all. 

I stay quiet about a few of my beliefs mainly because I'd probably lose friends and family from both sides if they knew. 

People will say that stupid crap on social media but would they do it in person.  A lot of people that post that crap to each other on social media rarely even see each other in person.  I see the same posts on Facebook and Twitter all the time.

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

13 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Now I see the opposite. I see plenty of friends and family members who've literally DISOWNED others because of their political party. I can't even count how many posts I saw on FB yesterday that literally said, "If you support Trump, defriend me NOW. I am done with you racist terrorists." A cousin of mine was literally called a "terrorist" because she was asking questions about how the media was just jumping to so many conclusions yesterday - someone interpreted this as her actually condoning what happened yesterday, when she made no type of statement at all. 

I stay quiet about a few of my beliefs mainly because I'd probably lose friends and family from both sides if they knew. 

I see this a lot as well.  I will say, the worst of it is on social media.  For the most part though, I think people generally have a greater number of friends who have similar political beliefs, without even actively doing it.  Meaning, I will gravitate more towards people who have similar beliefs as me, in general.  Without even trying to be political, people talk about things that are going on in everyday life.  The people who you share similar opinions to, generally you have more to talk about and hence, get along better with and become better friends.

I was never really much into politics until about 10 years ago.  Politics rarely came up in my circle of friends.  I've found that in the last 10 years, the people I hang out with more are either anti-politics or conservatives.  The friends that I had that are liberals, I don't really talk to that much anymore.  Normally, when I do see them, they're always the first ones to say "I'm not talking politics", but throughout the night will throw in subtle political jabs.  Anyway, the point is, that disconnect started before I paid more attention to politics and not in the last 10 years.

I have aunts, uncles, and cousins with whom I've talked to somewhat regularly in the past, but now, they may not even admit we're related.  That happened from their side, not mine.

[TheNewGirl 1,355]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I see this a lot as well.  I will say, the worst of it is on social media.  For the most part though, I think people generally have a greater number of friends who have similar political beliefs, without even actively doing it.  Meaning, I will gravitate more towards people who have similar beliefs as me, in general.  Without even trying to be political, people talk about things that are going on in everyday life.  The people who you share similar opinions to, generally you have more to talk about and hence, get along better with and become better friends.

I was never really much into politics until about 10 years ago.  Politics rarely came up in my circle of friends.  I've found that in the last 10 years, the people I hang out with more are either anti-politics or conservatives.  The friends that I had that are liberals, I don't really talk to that much anymore.  Normally, when I do see them, they're always the first ones to say "I'm not talking politics", but throughout the night will throw in subtle political jabs.  Anyway, the point is, that disconnect started before I paid more attention to politics and not in the last 10 years.

I have aunts, uncles, and cousins with whom I've talked to somewhat regularly in the past, but now, they may not even admit we're related.  That happened from their side, not mine.

And it always fascinates me of the 'side' that this comes from. 

The woman that posted, "If you support Trump, unfriend me now" is a pretty strong liberal. My cousin, flat out said, "Well, I am conservative, so I'll let you do the honors and do the unfriending, I don't believe in unfriending just because we have a difference of opinion."  Then they got into a huge back and forth, but neither defriended each other. My cousin was simply saying, here...you do it. 

The majority of the people I see that unfriend are liberal. Most of my conservative friends are quiet about a lot of things. I am glad to have friends on both sides and I am even more thankful when I can have an actual conversation with them about issues. It's rare, so I enjoy it when it happens. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

11 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

And it always fascinates me of the 'side' that this comes from. 

The woman that posted, "If you support Trump, unfriend me now" is a pretty strong liberal. My cousin, flat out said, "Well, I am conservative, so I'll let you do the honors and do the unfriending, I don't believe in unfriending just because we have a difference of opinion."  Then they got into a huge back and forth, but neither defriended each other. My cousin was simply saying, here...you do it. 

The majority of the people I see that unfriend are liberal. Most of my conservative friends are quiet about a lot of things. I am glad to have friends on both sides and I am even more thankful when I can have an actual conversation with them about issues. It's rare, so I enjoy it when it happens. 

This is a very common liberal trait.  I don't think I've ever seen this posted from any of my conservative friends but I see it all the time from liberals.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This is a very common liberal trait.  I don't think I've ever seen this posted from any of my conservative friends but I see it all the time from liberals.

Seen it alot too.  The Trump haters cannot cope with people who don't hate him, it's mind boggling the frenzy they are in.  I hope it goes away when he's gone.

I don't hate Trump.  I don't like him, I didn't vote for him, but I won't go out of my way to say he's the most evil person in history, therefore I am labeled as Red Onslaught and a Trump d!ck sucker.  Conversely the Trump idiots think I'm a cuck and a lefty

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

23 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

And it always fascinates me of the 'side' that this comes from. 

The woman that posted, "If you support Trump, unfriend me now" is a pretty strong liberal. My cousin, flat out said, "Well, I am conservative, so I'll let you do the honors and do the unfriending, I don't believe in unfriending just because we have a difference of opinion."  Then they got into a huge back and forth, but neither defriended each other. My cousin was simply saying, here...you do it. 

The majority of the people I see that unfriend are liberal. Most of my conservative friends are quiet about a lot of things. I am glad to have friends on both sides and I am even more thankful when I can have an actual conversation with them about issues. It's rare, so I enjoy it when it happens. 

 

10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This is a very common liberal trait.  I don't think I've ever seen this posted from any of my conservative friends but I see it all the time from liberals.

Exactly... and they're the first ones to call people bigots.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Seen it alot too.  The Trump haters cannot cope with people who don't hate him, it's mind boggling the frenzy they are in.  I hope it goes away when he's gone.

I don't hate Trump.  I don't like him, I didn't vote for him, but I won't go out of my way to say he's the most evil person in history, therefore I am labeled as Red Onslaught and a Trump d!ck sucker.  Conversely the Trump idiots think I'm a cuck and a lefty

Funny how there is no middle ground for some people.  You're either with us or against us.

[Rusty Syringes 478]

25 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

And it always fascinates me of the 'side' that this comes from. 

The woman that posted, "If you support Trump, unfriend me now" is a pretty strong liberal. My cousin, flat out said, "Well, I am conservative, so I'll let you do the honors and do the unfriending, I don't believe in unfriending just because we have a difference of opinion."  Then they got into a huge back and forth, but neither defriended each other. My cousin was simply saying, here...you do it. 

The majority of the people I see that unfriend are liberal. Most of my conservative friends are quiet about a lot of things. I am glad to have friends on both sides and I am even more thankful when I can have an actual conversation with them about issues. It's rare, so I enjoy it when it happens. 

It's the opposite here in this part of Texor.

Disagreeing with the the far righties here is like disagreeing with Clownzo. You say one thing that's a micron to the left of their far-right beliefs, and the defriend hammer pounds fast and furious.

You're disgusted with the insufferable lefties the same way I'm disgusted with the insufferable righties, kind of like people up north being tired of the cold and people down south tired of the heat and humidity.

It's all about getting fed up with what you're constantly seeing and hearing.

 

[TheNewGirl 1,355]

5 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

It's the opposite here in this part of Texor.

Disagreeing with the the far righties here is like disagreeing with Clownzo. You say one thing that's a micron to the left of their far-right beliefs, and the defriend hammer pounds fast and furious.

You're disgusted with the insufferable lefties the same way I'm disgusted with the insufferable righties, kind of like people up north being tired of the cold and people down south tired of the heat and humidity.

It's all about getting fed up with what you're constantly seeing and hearing.

 

I am not disgusted by anyone of them really. I kind of figure they have reasons to believe the way they do, as I have mine. If we can co-exist, awesome. I am not about ditching someone I've known for 35 years because they voted differently. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

11 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

It's the opposite here in this part of Texor.

Disagreeing with the the far righties here is like disagreeing with Clownzo. You say one thing that's a micron to the left of their far-right beliefs, and the defriend hammer pounds fast and furious.

You're disgusted with the insufferable lefties the same way I'm disgusted with the insufferable righties, kind of like people up north being tired of the cold and people down south tired of the heat and humidity.

It's all about getting fed up with what you're constantly seeing and hearing.

 

If you demean them and speak to them like you do here I can see why you’re not having many productive conversations. 

[Rusty Syringes 478]

2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I am not disgusted by anyone of them really. I kind of figure they have reasons to believe the way they do, as I have mine. If we can co-exist, awesome. I am not about ditching someone I've known for 35 years because they voted differently. 

 

I've had a few people ditch longtime friendships over politics, including Torrid Joe, who didn't like me respectfully saying burning sh!t, trashing things and hurting people wasn't the way to go. Same thing with a few righties I politely responded to after they posted grossly inaccurate information.

It's quite disappointing, but oh well. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

5 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

I've had a few people ditch longtime friendships over politics, including Torrid Joe, who didn't like me respectfully saying burning sh!t, trashing things and hurting people wasn't the way to go. Same thing with a few righties I politely responded to after they posted grossly inaccurate information.

It's quite disappointing, but oh well. 

Maybe you shouldn’t call them fascists? Seems to be your method of political discourse. Came in here firing that one off left and right. Politely. What a joke. 

[Herbivore 1,115]

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I've already been here nineteen years and as of March or April or so last year, we took our school above ground and got it fully legalized and certified, stamps and documents, so i'll be here a while. When I was 29, I imagined a fiscal crisis brought on by rampant deficit spending. Well, we've had twenty more years of rampant deficit spending since then and the bottom hasn't fallen out, so maybe I was wrong. Right or wrong though, either way the system is proving to be way more resilient than I thought. 

I'd never imagined a cultural collapse though. 2020 caught me totally off guard. Until the George Washington statues hit the ground, I'd presumed the Woke cancer may be a passing phase. Instead of shocking us, we all just yawned, and now it's going to be spreading since it has a proponent in the White House rather than opposition. 

IMO, Biden* sucks for the US and Americans but as an expat in China, he benefits me in that he can lower the tensions between the countries which make things easier. The nearby US consulate I always use was closed in response to the rise in tensions between the two countries. As I type this, I don't even know where the nearest consulate is right now. I support Trump anyway despite this because I care for the country. His trade policies really benefit the community I grew up in which was hit hard with auto plant closures while I was young and it was the USMCA when I really warmed to him.

Anyway, I'm 49 and half retired and will likely be in this situation for another sixteen years. I may retire here but if I do return, I imagine I would be looking to the reddest part of a red state. Some place where the magic that makes America great hopefully still exists. I am glad that I have become so tied in here though, as the US has passed me by. We just watch it dissolve. Everyone shrugs.

I'm just so blackpilled and dejected. The country is just sinking culturally. The frog is being boiled. The biggest body blow for me was seeing them get away with rigging elections. I never thought I'd see Tammany Hall-era BS in the US in my lifetime. I thought it went out the door a hundred years ago but here we are. Even, worse, one of the places it happened was in Detroit. Meanwhile the 2020 deficit is $3.3 trillion and nobody cares. In years past, I would have seethed, this year, I'm numb. it's ... meh. Whatever. Like I told Hawkeye in the post above, I'm already in the process of tuning the news out.

Being in China has insulated me from most of this mess. I should take advantage of that.

part of me saying you should stay in China relates to you being insulated.  You talk about how bad it us here without having a firm perspective.  

[Brad GLuckman 519]

There a lot of morons that burned down cities this summer and stormed the capitol yesterday. They are easily influenced and most likely don't have much going on in their life. These same morons are also hoping for civil war. If your life doesn't suck and you are even slightly grounded in reality, you are not hoping for a civil war.

The media and twitter make us think this is a huge problem but in reality it's just that the dumbest among us are also the loudest.

 

 

 

[Herbivore 1,115]

I havent seen anyone unfriend on fb.  Only very recently did lefties post anything political.  A few of the righties have been doing it for years.  We're all still friends.  2/3 bro in laws are full righty, we hang all the time, love them both.  Although I don't consider myself liberal, I have said here before Liberal Libertarian.  There a few righties on this site though that have said many times they would never be friends with a liberal.

[Fnord 2,051]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

You wouldn't help him.  Lefties don't actually help people.  They demand the government help people and the right pay for it.

You don't know anything about me or my beliefs other than I hate Trump. You wanna lie or assume something about me, I can't stop you. But I can tell you to GFY.

[Rusty Syringes 478]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If you demean them and speak to them like you do here I can see why you’re not having many productive conversations. 

I absolutely don't. 

 

 

[Rusty Syringes 478]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Maybe you shouldn’t call them fascists? Seems to be your method of political discourse. Came in here firing that one off left and right. Politely. What a joke. 

Since when did this place become a literary pillow fight?

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

I'm sure the Repubs will start having some hearings soon...they do a lot of that.

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

The biggest thing ruining our country is the lack of trust.  We are so becoming communist.  You cant believe what your read in the media, the results of elections, what you see in pictures..the media..your neighbor..everyone is unable to think for themselves. The dumbing down of America is rooning everything.  We are on a bobsled to hell.  It doesn't matter what side you are on.  Ignorance is bliss.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

Sorry, but I remember when the left would have actual policy and economic discussions. Remember the whole “one percent thing” and the “money has to be taken out of politics” discussion? The left took it from ideas to telling people what they are. “You’re an uneducated, racist bigot and we are shutting you down”.  But wait, I don’t like money in politics. I think the Uber wealthy have way too much power. Don’t you anymore? How come I wasn’t an uneducated, racist bigot when we agreed? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

18 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

The biggest thing ruining our country is the lack of trust.  We are so becoming communist.  You cant believe what your read in the media, the results of elections, what you see in pictures..the media..your neighbor..everyone is unable to think for themselves. The dumbing down of America is rooning everything.  We are on a bobsled to hell.  It doesn't matter what side you are on.  Ignorance is bliss.

Mark Zucherberg spent 400 million dollars this election cycle. Anyone who thinks that’s ok is brainwashed. It wast ok for the Koch bros, it’s not ok for him. It’s not even brought up anymore. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

21 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

The biggest thing ruining our country is the lack of trust.  We are so becoming communist.  You cant believe what your read in the media, the results of elections, what you see in pictures..the media..your neighbor..everyone is unable to think for themselves. The dumbing down of America is rooning everything.  We are on a bobsled to hell.  It doesn't matter what side you are on.  Ignorance is bliss.

Word

[TheNewGirl 1,355]

28 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

The biggest thing ruining our country is the lack of trust.  

This. 

[Gladiators 1,964]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

People will say that stupid crap on social media but would they do it in person.  A lot of people that post that crap to each other on social media rarely even see each other in person.  I see the same posts on Facebook and Twitter all the time.

I’m sure that’s true for the most part. One of the gals in our accounting department was crying the week of Thanksgiving. She told me her sister just got done telling her not to come over for Thanksgiving or Christmas because she voted for Trump. Sister still won’t answer calls or texts.

Another coworker had a bunch of neighbors over for a fish fry back in September. One of the neighbors hates Trump. He walks up to my coworker and asks who he’s voting for. Coworker says he’s not talking politics. They’re getting together to enjoy a fish fry and each other’s company. Guy says, that’s all I needed to hear. Fock Trump and fock you. Week later he asks my coworker and his son for some help getting his dock in. Coworker says, I’ll help you, but under 1 condition...”We’re not talking politics anymore. Let’s just be good neighbors.” Guy says the same thing. Fock Trump and fock you. Coworker didn’t help with the dock.

I have supporters of each party within my family. We can all get together and hang out just fine. We don’t talk politics.