Fears of a second civil war grow among democrat & republican pundits

[Alias Detective 1,389]

9 hours ago, Rusty Syringes said:

This post is gold. I spent 30 years in newsrooms, by the way. 

Delivery boy?

[RLLD 4,145]

The main concern for potential violence will be leftists attacking anyone that appears to support Trump.

Of course the media will have the back of the attackers so long as they are attacking what appear to be Trump supporters; call them mostly peaceful.....suggest its Trump that made them do it etc....

The media and the left are evil in their unholy alliance....scary stuff

[dogcows 1,030]

55 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The main concern for potential violence will be leftists attacking anyone that appears to support Trump.

Of course the media will have the back of the attackers so long as they are attacking what appear to be Trump supporters; call them mostly peaceful.....suggest its Trump that made them do it etc....

The media and the left are evil in their unholy alliance....scary stuff

Somebody needs to lay off the drugs... delusional much?

[Mr. Hand 482]

3 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

Delivery boy?

[RLLD 4,145]

52 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Somebody needs to lay off the drugs... delusional much?

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[dogcows 1,030]

14 minutes ago, RLLD said:

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Wait, you actually believe liberals are gonna buy a bunch of guns and start a war, especially right after winning the White House? I thought you were trolling.

[RLLD 4,145]

23 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Wait, you actually believe liberals are gonna buy a bunch of guns and start a war, especially right after winning the White House? I thought you were trolling.

Oh no, of course not, which is why I never stated anything like that.

It would seem reading comprehension is not your area of strength.

[MDC 7,152]

Obviously Trump bears a lot of responsibility for his sore loser sour grapes tiitty baby meltdown and convincing his hillbilly supporters that a secure wonderful election was a fraud.

If anything happens there will be blood on his hands!

[Rusty Syringes 478]

12 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

My bad. Was waiting for my car when I read that part of the thread. Conflated you with Rusty the newsboy.  

I've said many times before that I disliked Clinton, didn't vote for him and that the seeds of the 2008 recession were sewn by the Clinton administration. What part of all that are you having trouble wrapping your mind around in addition me saying myriad times that I'm not liberal?

As for the media not blaming Clinton, that's quite easy to Google. There is a Wall Street Journal story on in, for example. 

Clinton got hammered in the media for his marital indiscretions and impeachment.

Check out some front pages:

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2019/impeached-then-and-now-front-pages-showed-clinton-in-1998-trump-in-2019/

And yep, I spent 30 years as a newspaper journalist, and only one of the newspapers I worked for leaned liberal editorially, which was reflective of the predominantly Democratic audience. 

[Rusty Syringes 478]

4 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

Delivery boy?

Actually I did deliver newspapers on occasion. A little old lady called me one morning and said she didn't get her paper, so I grabbed one, hopped in my truck and delivered it to her. When we finally were able to print after Hurricane Rita, I drove around all over town handing papers to anyone I could find. It was pretty cool.

[RLLD 4,145]

13 minutes ago, MDC said:

Obviously Trump bears a lot of responsibility for his sore loser sour grapes tiitty baby meltdown and convincing his hillbilly supporters that a secure wonderful election was a fraud.

If anything happens there will be blood on his hands!

Obviously, it was also on his hands when the leftists did it for four years, so he remains a convenience pretense

[Alias Detective 1,389]

14 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

Actually I did deliver newspapers on occasion. A little old lady called me one morning and said she didn't get her paper, so I grabbed one, hopped in my truck and delivered it to her. When we finally were able to print after Hurricane Rita, I drove around all over town handing papers to anyone I could find. It was pretty cool.

Essential worker you are.  Keep up the grand work.

[MDC 7,152]

19 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Obviously, it was also on his hands when the leftists did it for four years, so he remains a convenience pretense

Usually it’s the fringe weirdos on both sides who incite violence. Unfortunately we’re in a situation now where the most irresponsible dingbat weirdo is the actual President.

We should all be relieved that fat POS is gone next month. Good riddance.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

The fringes do the violence.  But one side condones it, defends it or ignores it. Simple minds can’t see that. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

12 minutes ago, MDC said:

Usually it’s the fringe weirdos on both sides who incite violence. Unfortunately we’re in a situation now where the most irresponsible dingbat weirdo is the actual President.

We should all be relieved that fat POS is gone next month. Good riddance.  

When was the last time you changed your schtick? Is Buddy Hackett still alive? Maybe he can help get you some more material. 

[MDC 7,152]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

When was the last time you changed your schtick? Is Buddy Hackett still alive? Maybe he can help get you some more material. 

Your schtick has been remarkably consistent. It’s your username that keeps changing.

Peefoam.  

[Utilit99 4,099]

6 minutes ago, MDC said:

Your schtick has been remarkably consistent. It’s your username that keeps changing.

Peefoam.  

 

[RLLD 4,145]

39 minutes ago, MDC said:

Usually it’s the fringe weirdos on both sides who incite violence. Unfortunately we’re in a situation now where the most irresponsible dingbat weirdo is the actual President.

We should all be relieved that fat POS is gone next month. Good riddance.  

Careful what you wish for, the grass is not always greener.

Let's see what Boden does, maybe he too fixes our pathetic trade deals, deregulates, enhances global peace and puts minorities to work.....I doubt it, but lets give him a chance.

[Rusty Syringes 478]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The fringes do the violence.  But one side condones it, defends it or ignores it. Simple minds can’t see that. 

You can bet that far-right hate groups will be stirring up trouble Jan. 6 in D.C. and elsewhere. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

Just now, Rusty Syringes said:

You can bet that far-rate hate groups will be stirring up trouble Jan. 6 in D.C. and elsewhere. 

I don’t know how far right they are at this point. Seems like some otherwise reasonable people are very angry. But bet your ass it won’t be condoned and no one will be putting a bail fund together to bail them  out of jail, like Kamala Harris and her staff did.  And it certainly won’t be called “mostly peaceful” in a serious manner. Only idiots would accept that rationale. And only a media that thinks so low of its audience would put it out there.  Same Idiots that think Biden got more black votes than Obama, in any state. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

7 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

You can bet that far-rate hate groups will be stirring up trouble Jan. 6 in D.C. and elsewhere. 

What kind of trouble will they be stirring up? Will there be anti protesters there, if protests are what you are indicating?

And since you are board grammar and spelling editor of everyone's posts I'm assuming everything you type is perfect. What's a "far-rate hate group"?

[RLLD 4,145]

20 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

You can bet that far-right hate groups will be stirring up trouble Jan. 6 in D.C. and elsewhere. 

They might, who knows, I do not think there is much far right out there, its more of a trope for conservatism.....

[Rusty Syringes 478]

5 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

What kind of trouble will they be stirring up? Will there be anti protesters there, if protests are what you are indicating?

And since you are board grammar and spelling editor of everyone's posts I'm assuming everything you type is perfect. What's a "far-rate hate group"?

It's a typo, which has been corrected.  I make lots of typos and try to go back and fix 'em when I see 'em.

That's a far cry from the illiterate rubbish void of things like capitalization, punctuation and grammar.

Prove to me that I'm doing this with "everyone's posts." 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

4 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

It's a typo, which has been corrected.  I make lots of typos and try to go back and fix 'em when I see 'em.

That's a far cry from the illiterate rubbish void of things like capitalization, punctuation and grammar.

Prove to me that I'm doing this with "everyone's posts." 

So it’s only dumb when others do it. When you do it, it’s actually a testament to your superior intellect. Got it. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

6 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

It's a typo, which has been corrected.  I make lots of typos and try to go back and fix 'em when I see 'em.

That's a far cry from the illiterate rubbish void of things like capitalization, punctuation and grammar.

Prove to me that I'm doing this with "everyone's posts." 

Typos are when someone types out 'beleif' instead of 'belief' or the like. How is 'rate' a typo of 'right'? 

Keep up the good work!

So on topic, what's all this trouble the far-rate is going to stir up?

[JustinCharge 2,397]

54 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

You can bet that far-right hate groups will be stirring up trouble Jan. 6 in D.C. and elsewhere. 

The hate was already stirred up by the looting and rioting all summer.  That's where we went over the edge.  Anything from the far right is simply the response, because far far too many people believe it must be responded to.  We're going over the edge.  People like you have contributed to the hate, with visceral attacks on Trump and yet refusing to condemn the rioters and the looters in the same emotional manner.  People can SEE that.

You seek credibility.  Its obvious when you throw your "I've got 30 years experience in news" on the table.  But if you want credibility, the way to get it is to call all the rioters and summers this past summer a bunch of lickspittles with the same venom you give Trump.  If you condemn it ALL, on both sides, you get credibility that you so desperately seek.  But you don't do that.  So your 30 years means spit.  And people SEE how you types are one-sided.  And that is leading to potential riots from the right on Jan 6th, inauguration day, etc.

[nobody 2,570]

1 hour ago, Utilit99 said:

Typos are when someone types out 'beleif' instead of 'belief' or the like. How is 'rate' a typo of 'right'? 

It got auto-corrected obviously

[OldMaid 2,129]

WTAF is going on in this thread? Did Sderp steal JustinCharge’s login?

The civil war stuff was looney, but to actually imply that Clinton didn’t get hammered for the .com bubble is insane. Sure he was beloved for his personality, but he was a shitty president.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

Why exactly would Clinton catch the blame for the dot com bubble? It didn’t happen because of systematic fraud like the mortgage crisis. Venture capitalists making dumb investments isn’t something he had any control over.  Like has been pointed out here, he deserves much of the blame for the mortgage crisis, which he gets very little if any criticism. That doesn’t let the fool that was George Bush off the hook,  but he  does catch most of the blame. 

[Rusty Syringes 478]

5 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

The hate was already stirred up by the looting and rioting all summer.  That's where we went over the edge.  Anything from the far right is simply the response, because far far too many people believe it must be responded to.  We're going over the edge.  People like you have contributed to the hate, with visceral attacks on Trump and yet refusing to condemn the rioters and the looters in the same emotional manner.  People can SEE that.

You seek credibility.  Its obvious when you throw your "I've got 30 years experience in news" on the table.  But if you want credibility, the way to get it is to call all the rioters and summers this past summer a bunch of lickspittles with the same venom you give Trump.  If you condemn it ALL, on both sides, you get credibility that you so desperately seek.  But you don't do that.  So your 30 years means spit.  And people SEE how you types are one-sided.  And that is leading to potential riots from the right on Jan 6th, inauguration day, etc.

You can bet that if there were a bunch of far-lefties on this board egging on violence, vandalism and anything other that peaceful protesting, I'd be all over their asses.

The basic law of physics is that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, and Antifa focked up when it decided to broaden the definition of what they opposed to include anything to the right of themselves and incorporate violence and vandalism into their actions. Equal and opposite reaction being the rise of the alt-right hate groups such as the Proud Boys and Boogaloo Boys, and these groups potentially are far more dangerous than Antifa.

This is not the same Antifa that rose up in the 1920s to confront the rise of fascism and the Nazis. It's not the same Antifa that popped up in this country to confront the KKK, neo-fascists, skinheads, racists, etc., in the ensuing decades. 

While they do have isolated chapters, they are not an organized group like the Proud Boys. Until September, no one from Antifa had killed anyone in 25 years.

Torrid Joe is a perfect example of the far-left intolerance.

I vigorously attacked his far-left positions on this forum in the 2000s. 

I stopped being a regular here for a number of reasons, the first being that I just didn't have the energy for it because of a series of family hardships that stretched from about 2005 until earlier this year. (Two hurricanes, job insecurity, uprooting the family, divorce, more job insecurity, layoff, starting a new career, one more hurricane with $125,000 in damage, a crooked contractor who stole flood-insurance money from me, etc.) Two other reasons included the invention of Facebook and me just not as interested as I once was in being here. 

Torrid Joe changed after his wife died and became even more insufferable in his far-left leanings, to the point where he began advocating violence and vandalism. I confronted him on that, and he picked up his friendship marbles and left. 

Two other Facebook friends - one I'd known for 25 years - advocated the same kind of crap, and when I respectfully and politely called them out on it, the angry reaction was the same.

I abhor socialism, big government, Obamacare, weakening our military and being puzzies about foreign trade and standing up to Russia and China.

But in the last year I've grown weary of those on the far right buying into conspiracy theories, clinging to baloney information sources and being intolerant of everything to the left of Newsmax and OAN, constantly parroting all those terms I listed as part of the far-right playbook, like Drobeski does because his mushy old brain is incapable of creating something that resembles intelligence.

You seem like a nice guy and an intelligent person, but hoo boy your talk on civil war seems pretty batty to me, and I hope to hell you're not right. 

I didn't vote for Biden in the primaries because he's old and creepy, but he seemed to be the far lesser of two evils in this presidential election. I can't stand arrogant, delusional loud mouths, and not a day went by during his presidency did Trump not disappoint when it came to expecting some kind of embarrassment from him.

I've spent this whole year with my stomach churning about this clown and his loyalists. Now they're predicting that 100,000 Americans might die of COVID in January, when Trump in the spring said it would magically and beautifully disappear. 

I consider myself just a notch to the right of center on the political spectrum, but the alt-right chimpanzees call that liberal and socialist, which is ignorant. So you can't even reasonably discuss anything with them.

I pointed out my newspaper experience because I know a little something about the industry, for which I dedicated north of 60 hours a week for 30 years because I believed in accurate, unbiased news reporting. Other than the editorial board, the people in the newsrooms I served kept their politics to themselves while in the office.

The media in recent years has become a sh!tshow of infotainment, bias and regurgitated misinformation for political gain. Your Newsmax, OAN, Washington Times and Breitbart are no better than your CNN, MSNBC and the New York Times.

No one is getting the big picture unless they look at them all.

What I believe 100 percent is that it's time to isolate and become intolerant of the extremes. This doesn't make me a psychopath prone to violence. I rescue kittens, for god's sake.

If we don't minimize the extremes, we indeed will get that civil war you've been predicting. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

Tl/dr. Can somebody who did give me the cliff notes for what this a-hole is blabbering about? I’ll guess though, it’s all about him and “them”. And Trump. Always Trump. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Tl/dr. Can somebody who did give me the cliff notes for what this a-hole is blabbering about? I’ll guess though, it’s all about him and “them”. And Trump. Always Trump. 

We need to find somebody that can read Fake Outraged Moron to translate what he posted.  Maybe @dogcows ?  or @IGotWorms ?  I hear they are VERY fluent in it.

[Rusty Syringes 478]

26 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Tl/dr. Can somebody who did give me the cliff notes for what this a-hole is blabbering about? I’ll guess though, it’s all about him and “them”. And Trump. Always Trump. 

This is why we can't have nice things. Sad that your brain can't handle more than a few one-syllable words at a time, Hardcore toddler. Lol. Get on with yo' ignorant self. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

4 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

This is why we can't have nice things. Sad that your brain can't handle more than a few one-syllable words at a time, Hardcore toddler. Lol. Get on with yo' ignorant self. 

Ts/wr

[5-Points 3,399]

51 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

 Equal and opposite reaction being the rise of the alt-right hate groups such as the Proud Boys and Boogaloo Boys, and these groups potentially are far more dangerous than Antifa.

While they do have isolated chapters, they are not an organized group like the Proud Boys. 

You seem to know a lot about antifa but very little about the Proud Boys. The Proud Boys started as a joke to get a 20 something year old Jewish, engineer, virgin, laid. It's a drinking club that used to get together at bars and sing show tunes. To become a member you have to let other members punch you until you name 5 breakfast cereals. The name Proud Boys comes from a song in a focking Disney movie for crying out loud. 

They are not a far right hate group. I can't emphasize that enough.  They don't instigate violence, they just never back down when confronted. Do they like to fight? Absolutely. Do they start the fights? No, that blame always falls on antifa. If antifa didn't show up to rallies to "counter protest", there would be no violence. But antifa can't help themselves. They have a juvenile need to show up and rain on somebody else's parade instead of having a counter rally in a different area. 

I'd bet my left nut that if the PB's and antifa held simultaneous rallies in separate cities, there would be mayhem and destruction at only one location. 

[Rusty Syringes 478]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

You seem to know a lot about antifa but very little about the Proud Boys. The Proud Boys started as a joke to get a 20 something year old Jewish, engineer, virgin, laid. It's a drinking club that used to get together at bars and sing show tunes. To become a member you have to let other members punch you until you name 5 breakfast cereals. The name Proud Boys comes from a song in a focking Disney movie for crying out loud. 

They are not a far right hate group. I can't emphasize that enough.  They don't instigate violence, they just never back down when confronted. Do they like to fight? Absolutely. Do they start the fights? No, that blame always falls on antifa. If antifa didn't show up to rallies to "counter protest", there would be no violence. But antifa can't help themselves. They have a juvenile need to show up and rain on somebody else's parade instead of having a counter rally in a different area. 

I'd bet my left nut that if the PB's and antifa held simultaneous rallies in separate cities, there would be mayhem and destruction at only one location. 

That's some interesting information right there. I'm going to research this. I didn't know this about them. Thanks. Like seriously. 

[5-Points 3,399]

43 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

That's some interesting information right there. I'm going to research this. I didn't know this about them. Thanks. Like seriously. 

The group was started by Gavin McInness to get his podcast engineer laid. He told him to steer clear of pron and stop jacking off if he wanted to get laid. It branched out from there. 

The first time any of them got in trouble for violence IIRC was at a gala in NYC where Gavin and friends were attacked by antifa and friends. The PB's turned and left in a different direction. Antifa and friends ran around the block and cut them off. Violence ensued, antifa lost, PB's got arrested. 

I'm not saying the PB'S are all angels but they're a multicultural, group with members of varying sexual orientations. They aren't who they've been portrayed to be. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

What side was it that declared an autonomous zone and appointed a warlord and people were murdered there? Was that the Proud Boys or the booger boys? Couldn’t have been the Proud Boys. The left wing mayor and governor would have sent in tanks. Must have been the Antifa/ Biden-Harris street brigade. Imagine voting for the side aligned with those scumbags? Kamala thought it was great. Bailed a bunch of them out. 

[nobody 2,570]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What side was it that declared an autonomous zone and appointed a warlord and people were murdered there? Was that the Proud Boys or the booger boys? Couldn’t have been the Proud Boys. The left wing mayor and governor would have sent in tanks. Must have been the Antifa/ Biden-Harris street brigade. Imagine voting for the side aligned with those scumbags? Kamala thought it was great. Bailed a bunch of them out. 

Don’t forget how once they realized all the “mostly peaceful” protests were helping Trump, they almost immediately stopped everywhere except the most woke of woke cities. That told me they could’ve shut that shìt down anytime they wanted and chose not to.  Definition of political pawns.  Suckers all fell for it too.

Also notice how shooting unarmed black people these days doesn’t even register as national news anymore?  They riled up people on purpose and let them loose as a political tactic, and Rusty is wrong when he says they aren’t all in lock step.  They’re all owned by the same corporations, and they get their marching orders from their corporate board which in turn gets their orders from the political party that they support.

[Utilit99 4,099]

32 minutes ago, nobody said:

Don’t forget how once they realized all the “mostly peaceful” protests were helping Trump, they almost immediately stopped everywhere except the most woke of woke cities. That told me they could’ve shut that shìt down anytime they wanted and chose not to.  Definition of political pawns.  Suckers all fell for it too.

Also notice how shooting unarmed black people these days doesn’t even register as national news anymore?  They riled up people on purpose and let them loose as a political tactic, and Rusty is wrong when he says they aren’t all in lock step.  They’re all owned by the same corporations, and they get their marching orders from their corporate board which in turn gets their orders from the political party that they support.

The left didn't only rile up the ignorant democrats in this country, they funded and mobilized a good many of them to commit the crimes in the name of some made up "systemic racism". They didn't want the real problems to hit the forefront of the news like all the murders in the democratic cities that has been going on for years, that's why they made it all about police instead of 1000s of black people killing each other around the country every year.