Alias Detective 1,402 Posted September 24, 2019 Itās getting serious for Teflon Don. Ā Potential bribery with theĀ President of theĀ Ukraine. Ā This may stick a little. Ā Pelosi to speak at 5:00 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,677 Posted September 24, 2019 lock him up lock him upĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/breaking-president-trump-authorizes-release-of-unredacted-transcript-of-his-phone-call-to-ukrainian-president-zelensky/ He got word of their intention to open an inquiry then he sets up release for tomorrow after they commit.Ā This will end badly for the Dems.Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 24, 2019 Ā 28 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Itās getting serious for Teflon Don. Ā Potential bribery with theĀ President of theĀ Ukraine. Ā This may stick a little. It would actually be extortion.Ā According to the left.Ā Won't stick for impeachment.Ā This is yet another example of several possiblyĀ unrelated incidents being added up into conspiracy.Ā Hasn't worked yet. Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,107 Posted September 24, 2019 So let me get this straight - when Biden ACTUALLY threatened Ukraine by withholding money and followed thru on it to get the prosecutor fired, THAT was okay?Ā But Trump withholding aid is NOT okay? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/breaking-president-trump-authorizes-release-of-unredacted-transcript-of-his-phone-call-to-ukrainian-president-zelensky/ He got word of their intention to open an inquiry then he sets up release for tomorrow after they commit.Ā This will end badly for the Dems.Ā It's Christmas for every Dem candidate except Biden.Ā This could ruin him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,677 Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: It's Christmas for every Dem candidate except Biden. This could ruin him. lock him up lock him up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted September 24, 2019 I said since this story broke ā I think this oneās going to hurt. Very serious charges and heās essentially admitted to it as has GiulianiĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,593 Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, kutulu said: lock him up lock him up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, IGotWorms said: I said since this story broke ā I think this oneās going to hurt. Very serious charges and heās essentially admitted to it as has GiulianiĀ Admitted to what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, Filthy Fernadez said: Admitted to what? That he delayed military aid to the Ukraine and then tried to pressure the Ukrainian President into investigating a political adversary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,593 Posted September 24, 2019 lock him upĀ lock him upĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, IGotWorms said: That he delayed military aid to the Ukraine and then tried to pressure the Ukrainian President into investigating a political adversary Link to where he admitted all that?Ā Don't bother with NYT, CNN, WaPo. Exactly what you just asserted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,611 Posted September 24, 2019 We got him now boys reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,611 Posted September 24, 2019 Worms is a reddit bot. GuyĀ probably canāt contain himself while he searches /r/politicsĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,107 Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: That he delayed military aid to the Ukraine and then tried to pressure the Ukrainian President into investigating a political adversary Biden withheld aid to Ukraine to get the investigation into his son stopped.Ā What's the difference?Ā Why didn't Biden get impeached? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Biden withheld aid to Ukraine to get the investigation into his son stopped.Ā What's the difference?Ā Why didn't Biden get impeached? Don't feed worms by agreeing that Trump did this. Ukraine has been trying for years (2016) to give USA the evidence of this stuff. Deep state has been blocking it. Read the link to John Solomon article I posted. Ukraine reached out i.e. initiated the interest in investigating this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,446 Posted September 24, 2019 So withholdingĀ aid in order to find out about a crime, is the same as withholdingĀ aid to cover up a crime. NiceĀ workĀ there Worms. Your contortions are taking on legendary status.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,435 Posted September 24, 2019 President Donald Trump once again twisted the facts to claim that Joe Biden, as vice president, threatened to withhold ābillions of dollars to Ukraineā unless it removed the prosecutor general who āwas prosecutingā Bidenās son, Hunter. In May, Ukraineās top prosecutor at the time said the younger Biden āĀ a formerĀ board memberĀ for a gas company in UkraineĀ ā was not investigated. āHunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws ā at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing,āĀ Yuriy Lutsenko, Ukraineās then-prosecutor general,Ā toldBloomberg News. Lutsenko, whoĀ resignedin August, said a corruption investigation into leaders of Ukrainian gas companies concerned a potential money-laundering transaction that had occurred before Hunter Biden joined the board. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/trump-twists-facts-on-biden-and-ukraine/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, Filthy Fernadez said: Link to where he admitted all that?Ā Don't bother with NYT, CNN, WaPo. Exactly what you just asserted. How about the Wall Street Journal? Theyāre the ones that broke the story. For example: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/trump-says-he-discussed-biden-in-call-with-ukraines-president-11569177685 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/president-trump-repeats-criticism-of-biden-in-impromptu-u-n-appearance-11569254230 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,435 Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, IGotWorms said: How about the Wall Street Journal?Ā Biased librul fake news. Check a reputable source like 4chan or QAnon. Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, MDC said: Ā Ā 1:20 markĀ Ā Ā You're not getting the 1 billion unless you fire the prosecutor.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, MDC said: Biased librul fake news. Check a reputable source like 4chan or QAnon. Ā Donāt think itās gonna work for āem this time, but weāll definitely find outĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,435 Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, Filthy Fernadez said: 1:20 markĀ Ā Ā You're not getting the 1 billion unless you fire the prosecutor.Ā Yeah thatās in the link I posted too: Ā But the U.S. was not alone in pressuring Ukraine to fire Shokin. A month earlier, International Monetary Fund managing director Christine LagardeĀ threatenedĀ to withhold $40 billion unless Ukraine undertook āa substantial new effortā to fight corruption after the countryās economic minister and his teamĀ resignedĀ to protest government corruption. That same month, a āreform-minded deputy prosecutor resigned, complaining that his efforts to address government corruption had been consistently stymied by his own prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin,ā according to a Jan. 3, 2017, Congressional Research ServicesĀ report.Ā Shokin served as prosecutor general underĀ Viktor Yanukovych, the former president of Ukraine who fled to Russia after he was removed from power in 2014 and was later found guilty of treason. Shokin remained in power after Yanukovychās ouster, but he failed āto indict any major figures from the Yanukovych administration for corruption,āĀ according toĀ testimonyĀ John E. Herbst, aĀ former U.S. ambassador to UkraineĀ under President George W. Bush, gave in March 2016 to a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: How about the Wall Street Journal? Theyāre the ones that broke the story. For example: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/trump-says-he-discussed-biden-in-call-with-ukraines-president-11569177685 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/president-trump-repeats-criticism-of-biden-in-impromptu-u-n-appearance-11569254230 Pay wall. Link to Trump being QUOTED i.e. admitting that?Ā Ā No 'person familiar with the matter'Ā Ā Once again you libtards take the focking bait he throws out there and go all in. Tomorrow when the transcript is released, you guys will move onto 'yeah, but...........' 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, MDC said: Yeah thatās in the link I posted too: Ā Ā Ā "But the U.S. was not alone in pressuring Ukraine to fire Shokin." But the U.S. a.k.a. Biden pressured another country to fire a prosecutor to fire someone investigating his son's company. All you've done is prove since Biden didn't act alone, there's a conspiracy. Nice............Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,677 Posted September 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, edjr said: lock him upĀ lock him upĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,435 Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: "But the U.S. was not alone in pressuring Ukraine to fire Shokin." But the U.S. a.k.a. Biden pressured another country to fire a prosecutor to fire someone investigating his son's company. All you've done is prove since Biden didn't act alone, there's a conspiracy. Nice............Ā So Biden and the International Moneyary Fund weāre conspiring to have a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating Hunterās company for things the company allegedly did before Hunter worked there.Ā Am I getting that right? Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, MDC said: So Biden and the International Moneyary Fund weāre conspiring to have a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating Hunterās company for things the company allegedly did before Hunter worked there.Ā Am I getting that right? Ā Your brain no worky.Ā https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/437719-ukrainian-to-us-prosecutors-why-dont-you-want-our-evidence-on-democrats Ukrainian law enforcement officials believe they have evidence of wrongdoing by American Democrats and their allies in Kiev, ranging from 2016 election interference to obstructing criminal probes. But, they say, theyāve been thwarted in trying to get the Trump Justice Department to act. Kostiantyn Kulyk, deputy head of the Prosecutor Generalās International Legal Cooperation Department, told me he and other senior law enforcement officials tried unsuccessfully since last year to get visas from the U.S. Embassy in Kiev to deliver their evidence to Washington. Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas companyĀ routed more than $3 millionĀ to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice PresidentĀ Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukraine relations for the Obama administration. Bidenās son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,700 Posted September 24, 2019 The Democrats are only trying this because they know that they can't beat him come the 2020 election with a candidate...Ā They should spend the time to find a quality candidate that could beat him in the electoral college and quit wasting the time with impeachment talk... Plus do they really want Pence be #46? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,913 Posted September 24, 2019 Don't get why Biden keeps being brought up.Ā It's not a defense.Ā If Biden did the same thing as Trump, then by God hammer him too.Ā I'm not sure I am understanding how because Biden did this, Trump should be exonerated immediately. THAT argument isn't going to work for me.Ā Ā There may be better ones out there, and I am dying to see the transcript of the call, but using Biden as a defense is worthless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,435 Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, Filthy Fernadez said: Your brain no worky.Ā https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/437719-ukrainian-to-us-prosecutors-why-dont-you-want-our-evidence-on-democrats Ukrainian law enforcement officials believe they have evidence of wrongdoing by American Democrats and their allies in Kiev, ranging from 2016 election interference to obstructing criminal probes. But, they say, theyāve been thwarted in trying to get the Trump Justice Department to act. Kostiantyn Kulyk, deputy head of the Prosecutor Generalās International Legal Cooperation Department, told me he and other senior law enforcement officials tried unsuccessfully since last year to get visas from the U.S. Embassy in Kiev to deliver their evidence to Washington. Not sure what that has to do with the Biden withholding / Hunter investigation story.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, MDC said: Not sure what that has to do with the Biden withholding / Hunter investigation story.Ā You quoted me too soon; see below quote from that story. Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas companyĀ routed more than $3 millionĀ to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice PresidentĀ Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukraine relations for the Obama administration. Bidenās son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,913 Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said: You quoted me too soon; see below quote from that story. Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas companyĀ routed more than $3 millionĀ to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice PresidentĀ Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukraine relations for the Obama administration. Bidenās son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings; LockĀ Ā HimĀ Ā UpĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,593 Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Don't get why Biden keeps being brought up.Ā It's not a defense.Ā If Biden did the same thing as Trump, then by God hammer him too.Ā I'm not sure I am understanding how because Biden did this, Trump should be exonerated immediately. THAT argument isn't going to work for me.Ā Ā There may be better ones out there, and I am dying to see the transcript of the call, but using Biden as a defense is worthless. bu bu but OBAMA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,435 Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: You quoted me too soon; see below quote from that story. Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas companyĀ routed more than $3 millionĀ to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice PresidentĀ Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukraine relations for the Obama administration. Bidenās son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings; Was the prosecutor Biden strongarmed the Ukraine into firing conducting this investigation too? Did the investigation stop after he was fired? Seems like youāre just spasming and throwing shiit at the wall at this point.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,402 Posted September 24, 2019 Pelosiās lips bug me. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted September 24, 2019 Nancy has taken too much Botox. She can barely move her mouth when she talks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeshushu 51 Posted September 24, 2019 I have never liked this women. Fix California! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, MDC said: Was the prosecutor Biden strongarmed the Ukraine into firing conducting this investigation too? Did the investigation stop after he was fired? Seems like youāre just spasming and throwing shiit at the wall at this point.Ā Still projecting. Biden is on film bragging about getting that prosecutor fired. Other than the prosecutor being guilty of criminal activity against the U.S. why would you be okay with Biden threatening a country to fire someone? That's thwarting justice. IF Trump told Ukraine to investigate, that's demanding justice. I thought all you Dems loved investigations...............aren't they the way to the truth?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites