Ahmaud Arbery

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

18 minutes ago, The Observer said:

If some generic petting I did with my girlfriend when I was 15 had you this rattled, you'd have a focking coronary if you knew what I did with my girlfriend these days. .   It's been forever since I talked to s virgin. You're adorable

Listen to this fockin child. We all know what you do with your middle aged girlfriend. Unless you’ve progressed past annalingus. Hard to believe a man in his 50’s thinks like this, never mind talks like it. Hey everybody, Newbie bangs his girlfriend! That he lives with! Who pays the mortgage! So impressed. 

[The Observer 641]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Now it’s “pettting” before it was “ banging”.  Straight clown. 

Lolol. Holy crap, between you, utilitycunt, and 12th man, you guys are on about a 25 straight newbie posts run.  I realize the other two are single and have nothing else, but you are spending yet another night ignoring your kids so you can obssess about me.  Do you even know their names? 

[The Observer 641]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Listen to this fockin child. We all know what you do with your middle aged girlfriend. Unless you’ve progressed past annalingus. Hard to believe a man in his 50’s thinks like this, never mind talks like it. Hey everybody, Newbie bangs his girlfriend! That he lives with! Who pays the mortgage! So impressed. 

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[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Lolol. Holy crap, between you, utilitycunt, and 12th man, you guys are on about a 25 straight newbie posts run.  I realize the other two are single and have nothing else, but you are spending yet another night ignoring your kids so you can obssess about me.  Do you even know their names? 

Just took them out for ice cream while you were making up stories on a low rent message board. Think your “girlfriend “ in her 50’s will let you put it in? Oh wait , you’ve done it 3x today. Lol. 

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Just took them out for ice cream while you were making up stories on a low rent message board. Think your “girlfriend “ in her 50’s will let you put it in? Oh wait , you’ve done it 3x today. Lol. 

Yeah. Sure you did sport. No way you were able to distract yourself from the fact that I had a girlfriend at 15.  That's infuriated you.  Totally unhinged. Poor kids.

[Voltaire 5,316]

8 hours ago, peenie said:

He was up to no good is just your opinion. He may have been curious and if nothing was stolen he simply may have used bad judgement. It didn't mean he was a criminal! I don't have time to listen to the video (as I'm currently on a SKYPE meeting, but not paying attention, lol) at the moment but I will do so later.

If he was seen many times, is it possible that he just regularly runs through the neighborhood? Is that such an insane theory?

When I run I have checkpoints that I use to motivate me. "Ah! I need a rest." "God, I'm tired." "Another half mile, I'll get to the construction site, I'll rest there."

He's been there a few times, he goes on foot (at least the last time) , he never takes anything (we'll see if that's true). People know he likes jogging. I'd like to know for sure if this is within jogging distance of his house. Maybe that's his fock-off-for-five-minutes-and-catch-my-breath place. If so, as CDub points out, he sure looks to be in far better shape than I am when I am in near-exhaustion mode.

It still seems to me that jogging makes the most sense why he's been in the neighborhood multiple times (on foot) and it jives with what people say of him liking to jog. Officer Tatum says that as yet there's nobody who has come forward to vouch that they have seen him jogging the area, but that may change with an investigation. Also, interestingly, he says the house may isn't a construction site at all but a home undergoing renovations. If so, that changes things. New owners? What's up with this place?

If the point on his run where he's tanked has a construction site, that would explain his multiple visits. He's sure making himself welcome there, he leaves through the front door; Tim Pool showed footage of him climbing in the window.

So... if anybody has seen him jogging the neighborhood, the rest of the video footage we know should be three minutes long rather than three seconds, the nature of the "construction site"/ "refurbished house,"  if things had been stolen there. Officer Tatum says they're linking four other incidents into this case, I'd like to see how strong those ties are.

He's trespassing and leaving through the front door of this house. It's understandable that the neighbors think this looks shady as fock, and that they'd be especially wary since they'd just had a gun stolen from their car in January. Also a house being constructed and one being refurbished are quite different. That said the possibility still exists that this really was a construction site and a curious kid is just looking around innocently. And "WTF was he doing there?" is just the first part... the second part,  the incident itself, Georgia felony laws, citizen arrest laws, stand your ground/self defense laws. Then the last part is why the DA sat on the investigation rather than pursue it only after the video was made public which, in today's environment with all the screaming about dead unarmed black guy killed by white guy turns up the intensity of each incident like this. That the case wasn't pursued until there was a public outcry gives the local law enforcement/DA a bad look.

[peenie 1,915]

 

[peenie 1,915]

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

14 minutes ago, peenie said:

 

Okay, that was funny and pretty good.  I like those dudes sense of humor.

 

 

[peenie 1,915]

My daughter agrees with the videos I posted and is angry that so many blacks are up in arms about Ahmaud's death but turning a blind eye to all the deaths and crimes committed by black men in general. She feels white southern men are very protective and can name countless times where they've been overly concerned about her safety, well being and property.

 

[Voltaire 5,316]

24 minutes ago, peenie said:

 

These guys have a great perspective. Thanks, peenie.

[KSB2424 3,148]

10 minutes ago, peenie said:

My daughter agrees with the videos I posted and is angry that so many blacks are up in arms about Ahmaud's death but turning a blind eye to all the deaths and crimes committed by black men in general. She feels white southern men are very protective and can name countless times where they've been overly concerned about her safety, well being and property.

 

You raised a smart, independent thinker.  Kudos as a mother.

To be fair, i am not a minority and I'm sure the old saying "Don't judge a person until you walk a mile in their shoes" holds tons of weight.  I do not know what it is like to be a minority.  However there is also truth, facts and evidence.  Those cannot be denied based on a persons "feelings".  Seems like your daughter see's through the B.S. and thinks and judges stories or people based on the content of their character  not on the color of their skin, as well as the facts that ultimately come out.  Not just the social media narrative at the beginning or some political affliction. 

[Voltaire 5,316]

27 minutes ago, peenie said:

 

Wow, they really bring it. Thanks again, peenie.

[peenie 1,915]

I still believe that...

It was normal behavior to be curious about a home under construction. It was a structure with walls and frames and wood; no furniture, no clear rooms, no bathrooms, no appliances or even wiring. He was there for a few minutes only. He wasn't destroying the property, he wasn't sitting or smoking or eating or sleeping in it. He promptly left. 

It requires your imagination and paranoia to believe he was stealing or burglarizing the home. He left with nothing in his hands and didn't appear to be carrying a weapon. He confronted no one.

Those men were wrong to approach him as if he committed a huge crime. 

I do not care how nice southern men usually are any more than I care how some black men are criminals. 

I think they were wrong and I think they should be punished. 

Lastly, reading how he was up to no good is insulting because for all anyone knows he admired the neighborhood and the people that lived there. 

I will say though, that I do not believe the men were intending to do anything more than make a citizens arrest. I believe they were simply trying to protect their community. I do not think they wanted or intended to kill him.

Why? Because they called the police when the guy was near. The shooting was caught over the phone and I could hear the panic in the callers voice when he yelled, "Stop!" I've only listened once so I may have exaggerated it. 

[BiffTannen 954]

Any results on toxicology? I bet Reggie was smoking crack. 

[The Observer 641]

2 minutes ago, BiffTannen said:

Any results on toxicology? I bet Reggie was smoking crack. 

Murder charges lessen if the victim has drugs in his system?

[BiffTannen 954]

3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Murder charges lessen if the victim has drugs in his system?

I saw Reggie charge two men like a maniac and those two men were forced to defend themselves. Reggie deserves to be dead. 

[Alias Detective 1,400]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Murder charges lessen if the victim has drugs in his system?

Jogging on crack.  Lol.

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, BiffTannen said:

I saw Reggie charge two men like a maniac and those two men were forced to defend themselves. Reggie deserves to be dead. 

#metoo

[The Observer 641]

2 minutes ago, BiffTannen said:

I saw Reggie charge two men like a maniac and those two men were forced to defend themselves. Reggie deserves to be dead. 

And I saw Jethro and Cletus hunt down a black kid and confront him with a shotgun in their hands. When he fought back, they killed him.  Murder.

[BiffTannen 954]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

And I saw Jethro and Cletus hunt down a black kid and confront him with a shotgun in their hands. When he fought back, they killed him.  Murder.

You must see like Reggie does now - not at all. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Murder charges lessen if the victim has drugs in his system?

Where in that video did it show the 2 men harassing or threatening the criminal before the criminal went on a full on assault against them?

[12th Man 884]

19 minutes ago, peenie said:

I still believe that...

It was normal behavior to be curious about a home under construction. It was a structure with walls and frames and wood; no furniture, no clear rooms, no bathrooms, no appliances or even wiring. He was there for a few minutes only. He wasn't destroying the property, he wasn't sitting or smoking or eating or sleeping in it. He promptly left. 

It requires your imagination and paranoia to believe he was stealing or burglarizing the home. He left with nothing in his hands and didn't appear to be carrying a weapon. He confronted no one.

Those men were wrong to approach him as if he committed a huge crime. 

I do not care how nice southern men usually are any more than I care how some black men are criminals. 

I think they were wrong and I think they should be punished. 

Lastly, reading how he was up to no good is insulting because for all anyone knows he admired the neighborhood and the people that lived there. 

I will say though, that I do not believe the men were intending to do anything more than make a cozens arrest. I believe they were simply trying to protect their community. I do not think they wanted or intended to kill him.

Why? Because they called the police when the guy was near. The shooting was caught over the phone and I could hear the panic in the callers voice when he yelled, "Stop!" I've only listened once so I may have exaggerated it. 

You are a fraud. Remember Tyshawn Lee?  Of course you don’t he was killed by black gang bangers. 

[Alias Detective 1,400]

15 minutes ago, 12th Man said:

You are a fraud. Remember Tyshawn Lee?  Of course you don’t he was killed by black gang bangers. 

With respect I don’t remember nor care.

[12th Man 884]

16 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

With respect I don’t remember nor care.

That’s the point. No one gives two craps unless the media blows up a white guy killing a black guy. 

[The Observer 641]

3 minutes ago, 12th Man said:

That’s the point. No one gives two craps unless the media blows up a white guy killing a black guy. 

I'm not familiar with the case either, but if it's similar to this one in the fact that the DA saw a tape of the actual murder and didn't do a thing about it because he was buddies with one of the killers, then you have a good comparison.

[Utilit99 4,099]

11 hours ago, The Observer said:

Yeah. Sure you did sport. No way you were able to distract yourself from the fact that I had a girlfriend at 15.  That's infuriated you.  Totally unhinged. Poor kids.

 Fingerbanger Newbie and the tresspassing construction site tramp. What a couple. Nicknames in school, Lady and the Tramp. 

[12th Man 884]

8 minutes ago, The Observer said:

I'm not familiar with the case either, but if it's similar to this one in the fact that the DA saw a tape of the actual murder and didn't do a thing about it because he was buddies with one of the killers, then you have a good comparison.

Of course you are not familiar with it. Rachel and Brian didn’t tell you to get worked up over a little Black kid getting killed by black gang bangers. 

[peenie 1,915]

It's not our fault that the media only covers certain crimes. I was and am still really disturbed about the murder of the security guard that was shot for asking a woman to wear a mask in Family Dollar (or General Dollar or Dollar Tree, lol). I can care about multiple things at the same time. Don't blame me because the news doesn't report equally.

[The Observer 641]

25 minutes ago, 12th Man said:

Of course you are not familiar with it. Rachel and Brian didn’t tell you to get worked up over a little Black kid getting killed by black gang bangers. 

Oh, so there was no cover-up in that case. That's what I thought.  Next

[RLLD 4,230]

So we still have no idea what led to this guy attempting to assault these two rednecks?

I think I understand why they shot the moron,

[Utilit99 4,099]

Nothing in that video shows the two white dudes starting anything physical with the criminal.

But they will be sacrificed so black people don't start breaking windows in local businesses and looting the stores and pulling unsuspecting truck drivers from their rigs and throwing bricks into their skulls. That's why I think the two white guys will go to jail.

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Nothing in that video shows the two white dudes starting anything with the criminal.

But they will be sacrificed so black people don't start breaking windows in local businesses and looting the stores and pulling unsuspecting truck drivers from their rigs and throwing bricks into their skulls. That's why I think the two white guys will go to jail.

Just wondering what transpired prior to the attack, its pretty startling that this guy decided to assault two guys like that, where they had the vehicle and such advantage.......

 

[The Observer 641]

4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Nothing in that video shows the two white dudes starting anything physical with the criminal.

But they will be sacrificed so black people don't start breaking windows in local businesses and looting the stores and pulling unsuspecting truck drivers from their rigs and throwing bricks into their skulls. That's why I think the two white guys will go to jail.

Poor guys.  Two more innocent white victims. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, RLLD said:

Just wondering what transpired prior to the attack, its pretty startling that this guy decided to assault two guys like that, where they had the vehicle and such advantage.......

 

That needs to be known for sure before anyone can have an accurate opinion. All we can do is speculate until that time. And in the mean time, if all we go by is the video alone, who started  the altercation?

[Utilit99 4,099]

On 5/7/2020 at 2:59 PM, The Observer said:

I have something alright. You are such a racist that you can't even criticize two white guys who attack and then kill an unarmed black guy. 

So, looking at the video, when did the two white guys attack the unarmed black guy?

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

That needs to be known for sure before anyone can have an accurate opinion. All we can do is speculate until that time. And in the mean time, if all we go by is the video alone, who started  the altercation?

Likely depends on your political position or personal bias.  On the one hand you have people say these two hunted this clown, on the other you have people say he was some kind of burglar.

I expect people to disagree, behave badly etc....what I do not accept is that assault is an option, or that shooting should be an option unless attacked.

So you have this idiot who is clearly skulking about to look for something to steal, thats fine, looks like he didnt get anything.  It is VERY common for theft on these work sites.

So perhaps these yahoos come in and try to chase the idiot off, ok, not their role but I can get with that. So long as they did not try that BS citizens arrest stuff, looks like they were planted in the road, which is fine, then this clown runs up to them, thats fine, that can even argue, but the idiot comes up and makes a move to attack.....THAT is where it stops being fine.

[12th Man 884]

42 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Oh, so there was no cover-up in that case. That's what I thought.  Next

Oh! So you are only concerned because there was a cover up! The cover up is what enrages you. You can’t stand cover ups    Gotcha 

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Likely depends on your political position or personal bias.  On the one hand you have people say these two hunted this clown, on the other you have people say he was some kind of burglar.

I expect people to disagree, behave badly etc....what I do not accept is that assault is an option, or that shooting should be an option unless attacked.

So you have this idiot who is clearly skulking about to look for something to steal, thats fine, looks like he didnt get anything.  It is VERY common for theft on these work sites.

So perhaps these yahoos come in and try to chase the idiot off, ok, not their role but I can get with that. So long as they did not try that BS citizens arrest stuff, looks like they were planted in the road, which is fine, then this clown runs up to them, thats fine, that can even argue, but the idiot comes up and makes a move to attack.....THAT is where it stops being fine.

I think you are right on about this. In the end, how can this be deemed a murder? Maybe other gun charges? Not sure of the laws down there.

[peenie 1,915]

20 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Nothing in that video shows the two white dudes starting anything physical with the criminal.

But they will be sacrificed so black people don't start breaking windows in local businesses and looting the stores and pulling unsuspecting truck drivers from their rigs and throwing bricks into their skulls. That's why I think the two white guys will go to jail.

That didn't happen in Florida when Zimmerman was found not guilty nor in NYC with Eric Garner's death, when they didn't even indict the officers involved, even though his death was ruled a homicide.