No Drew Brees thread?

[The Observer 641]

Just now, Fireballer said:

No attention

FYP

[drobeski 3,061]

3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

When you're the organizer of the movement because you've been mistreated, you get to choose the platform you'd like to get the word out on. I highly doubt that's ever going to happen, Mr White Privilege 

How's the purple hair looking these days ?

[The Observer 641]

Just now, Meglamaniac said:

Exactly what 'mistreatment' did Kap face to start this movement?

   I bet there's a thread on here somewhere.  Do some research

[The Observer 641]

Just now, drobeski said:

How's the purple hair looking these days ?

Katie Perry?  Kelly Osbourne?

[Meglamaniac 497]

5 minutes ago, The Observer said:

   I bet there's a thread on here somewhere.  Do some research

So is it that you are uneducated or just willfully blind?

[Fireballer 2,642]

3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Exactly what 'mistreatment' did Kap face to start this movement?

I dont think he ever said he personally was mistreated, but he heard a story from teammates in college where they were moving stuff out of an apartment and got cops called on them BECAUSE THEY WERE BLACK.  

Like Ive posted many times, Ill examine and discuss each police issue based on its own merits.  But facts and nuance dont get the emotional responses the left wants.  

[Meglamaniac 497]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

I dont think he ever said he personally was mistreated, but he heard a story from teammates in college where they were moving stuff out of an apartment and got cops called on them BECAUSE THEY WERE BLACK.  

Like Ive posted many times, Ill examine and discuss each police issue based on its own merits.  But facts and nuance dont get the emotional responses the left wants.  

No no no, Newbie clearly stated that

When you're the organizer of the movement because you've been mistreated, you get to choose the platform you'd like to get the word out on. I highly doubt that's ever going to happen, Mr White Privilege 

Funnier is that Kap was living the very definition of a 'privileged' life in 2016.

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

I dont think he ever said he personally was mistreated, but he heard a story from teammates in college where they were moving stuff out of an apartment and got cops called on them BECAUSE THEY WERE BLACK.  

Like Ive posted many times, Ill examine and discuss each police issue based on its own merits.  But facts and nuance dont get the emotional responses the left wants.  

I just started a new thread with and article about systemic police racism that I would be shocked if any of the lefties here will post in because it makes too much sense and destroys their narrative.

[Mungwater 597]

2 hours ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 

Yeah, who outside of LA cares about Brees. At one point his jersey was a top five seller for a few years. Guess NO. was stockpiling his jerseys. 

Maybe, but no one gives a what a washed up QB has to say to be honest.  He is and will always be overrated, it’s just there isn’t anything else to watch right now.

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

1 hour ago, Bier Meister said:

Not sure pig socks hurt the message when the message is that it is not minuscule and often cases are covered up.  The message seems to be that these abuses and cover ups are systematically accepted.  

 

Again, I am not going to wear them, nor wear tee shirts that says F* the police.  Would love to see more weeding out of bad apples and better policies and procedures.

Interestingly enough, those cases that get covered up are done in Democrat dominated cities and states....  hmmmm..... 

[Bier Meister 1,710]

5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Interestingly enough, those cases that get covered up are done in Democrat dominated cities and states....  hmmmm..... 

Do you believe that Democrats are solely responsible for PD coverups? If not, what percentage to you think comes down from mayoral leadership?  

Most of it is de-escalated or ignored and likely not to reach the higher positions of power beyond the force (unless it was high profile).

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

42 minutes ago, Mungwater said:

Maybe, but no one gives a what a washed up QB has to say to be honest.  He is and will always be overrated, it’s just there isn’t anything else to watch right now.

Definitely sucks on the road 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

1 hour ago, Bier Meister said:

Do you believe that Democrats are solely responsible for PD coverups? If not, what percentage to you think comes down from mayoral leadership?  

Most of it is de-escalated or ignored and likely not to reach the higher positions of power beyond the force (unless it was high profile).

Honestly, I don't see how you can logically come to any other conclusion.  All of the management of the police departments are hired/appointed by the mayor and council (even if they're elected, they're likely to follow the pattern of the politicians).  ALL politicians (both sides), hire people based on their personal affiliations.  It happens at all levels... local, county, state, and federal.  These kinds of incidents predominantly happen in large cities.  Cities that have been run by democrats for many consecutive decades.  For example, the one in Baltimore... Freddy Gray.  You remember that one, right?  The city of Baltimore had Democrat leadership for over FIFTY consecutive years.  50.  5-0.  That entire police department is run by democrats.  Completely.  Yet, Republicans are the ones that are accused of being racist.  Even thought that city is a dumpster fire at all levels.  Elijah Cummings was heralded by the party for crying out loud.  What was that based on?  It's one of the worst cities in the country.  Yet, he's black and a democrat, so he's a great guy in a bad situation (even though it was created by a black [female] democrat before him... and a black female democrat before her, and a black female democrat before her [I think you see a pattern, right?]), it's always blamed on the white republican.  One's that have not existed (in power), in a half a century.  Since 1947, there have been 12 Democrat mayors and 1 Republican.  Over the last 73 years, a Democrat held the mayors office for 69 of those years.... 6 of the last 7 (all Democrats), were black.  Since 1987, the mayor of Baltimore has been black for 25 of those 33 years.  Yet, when Freddy Gray died... all the fingers got pointed out at white republican's.

This is just an example.  An example that is a standard across the county.  Philadelphia is no different.  They haven't had a Republican mayor since 1947.  Minneapolis hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1961 (had 2 Independents and 8 Democrats).  Speaking of Minneapolis, from the Minneapolis Star Tribune: "Chauvin’s work history at the Minneapolis Police Department includes more than 15 conduct complaints over his 19 years with the department.  Almost all the complaints were closed without discipline, police internal affairs records show, suggesting the allegations weren’t sustained. The nature of the complaints wasn’t made public."  There is a 0% chance that based on the history of the Minneapolis's recent history of Democrat dominance, that the police department aren't controlled by Democrats.

 

Think about this: Democrat politician's can't stay in power unless they're convincing enough people of 2 different narratives... 1) certain people are being victimized... 2) the other kind of people should feel guilty.  Tell me, if that's the only way they stay in power... what makes you think they have any intention of fixing narrative #1?  Without narrative #1, you don't have narrative #2.  Without those, you have no power.

[Fireballer 2,642]

Jake Fromm now taking heat

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/06/04/bills-rookie-qb-jake-fromm-apologizes-racially-insensitive-text-message/

[Bier Meister 1,710]

16 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Honestly, I don't see how you can logically come to any other conclusion.  All of the management of the police departments are hired/appointed by the mayor and council (even if they're elected, they're likely to follow the pattern of the politicians).  ALL politicians (both sides), hire people based on their personal affiliations.  It happens at all levels... local, county, state, and federal.  These kinds of incidents predominantly happen in large cities.  Cities that have been run by democrats for many consecutive decades.  For example, the one in Baltimore... Freddy Gray.  You remember that one, right?  The city of Baltimore had Democrat leadership for over FIFTY consecutive years.  50.  5-0.  That entire police department is run by democrats.  Completely.  Yet, Republicans are the ones that are accused of being racist.  Even thought that city is a dumpster fire at all levels.  Elijah Cummings was heralded by the party for crying out loud.  What was that based on?  It's one of the worst cities in the country.  Yet, he's black and a democrat, so he's a great guy in a bad situation (even though it was created by a black [female] democrat before him... and a black female democrat before her, and a black female democrat before her [I think you see a pattern, right?]), it's always blamed on the white republican.  One's that have not existed (in power), in a half a century.  Since 1947, there have been 12 Democrat mayors and 1 Republican.  Over the last 73 years, a Democrat held the mayors office for 69 of those years.... 6 of the last 7 (all Democrats), were black.  Since 1987, the mayor of Baltimore has been black for 25 of those 33 years.  Yet, when Freddy Gray died... all the fingers got pointed out at white republican's.

This is just an example.  An example that is a standard across the county.  Philadelphia is no different.  They haven't had a Republican mayor since 1947.  Minneapolis hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1961 (had 2 Independents and 8 Democrats).  Speaking of Minneapolis, from the Minneapolis Star Tribune: "Chauvin’s work history at the Minneapolis Police Department includes more than 15 conduct complaints over his 19 years with the department.  Almost all the complaints were closed without discipline, police internal affairs records show, suggesting the allegations weren’t sustained. The nature of the complaints wasn’t made public."  There is a 0% chance that based on the history of the Minneapolis's recent history of Democrat dominance, that the police department aren't controlled by Democrats.

you are drinking too much red cool aid.  Do we have numbers on breakdown of rep vs dem on PD in misc cities?  what were the political affiliation of the guys (one was a former cop, right) in georgia and chauvin?   

to the bolded... this wasn't done because they were dem, rather because they we CTA.  this isn't widespread dem conspiracy. 

 

[tanatastic 2,062]

Every white person needs to just shut up or pledge allegiance to the Floyd cause or they will be blackballed mercilessly. They cannot express love for America, that’s a big no no. You have to even appear anti American or it’s taken as racism.

[The Observer 641]

This racist b1tch represents every single trumptard on this board

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

6 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Great lesson to learn. If you don't have words that 100% support these types of movements, just shut your yammer.

 

Why anyone would say anything that doesn't fit this narrative is just plain dumb

Because that is exactly the point of this narrative. To silence.

They have weaponized the concept of "racism."

There will never be a prominent republican or conservative again that isn't painted with the "racist" brush.

They are pushing a largely false narrative to silence their opponents. Plain and simple. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

Anybody see those fake tears out of that illiterate thug Malcolm Jenkins? What a twat. 

[SUXBNME 1,499]

4 hours ago, Meglamaniac said:

So is it that you are uneducated or just willfully blind?

Why do you bother?  
Newbies only opinions at FFT are opinions he makes up to contradict the "Republicans" here.  
Very rarely anything of substance, just a bored person looking for attention. 

[The Observer 641]

22 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

Why do you bother?  
Newbies only opinions at FFT are opinions he makes up to contradict the "Republicans" here.  
Very rarely anything of substance, just a bored person looking for attention. 

I constantly own about a dozen different people every single day.  I understand that frustrates all you trumptards.  My advice is to rest up and try to do better tomorrow. Lol

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

Just now, The Observer said:

I constantly own about a dozen different people every single day.  I understand that frustrates all you trumptards.  My advice is to rest up and try to do better tomorrow. Lol

You only have 19 wins. Pathetic. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

32 minutes ago, The Observer said:

I constantly own about a dozen different people every single day.  I understand that frustrates all you trumptards.  My advice is to rest up and try to do better tomorrow. Lol

From the guy on estrogen overdose, thats rich.  Until you learn to use facts, you aint pwning sh!t.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

1 hour ago, The Observer said:

I constantly own about a dozen different people every single day.  I understand that frustrates all you trumptards.  My advice is to rest up and try to do better tomorrow. Lol

You just used the word own to refer to people. You need to go turn yourself in to the nearest antifa re-education center for reprogramming. Check your privilege, seriously bro. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

3 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

You just used the word own to refer to people. You need to go turn yourself in to the nearest antifa re-education center for reprogramming. Check your privilege, seriously bro. 

He doesn’t believe Antifa exists. I think some moron on msnbc claimed that so he repeated it. 

[Meglamaniac 497]

10 hours ago, The Observer said:

I constantly own about a dozen different people every single day.  I understand that frustrates all you trumptards.  My advice is to rest up and try to do better tomorrow. Lol

LOL

You still believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy don't you

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

15 hours ago, Bier Meister said:

you are drinking too much red cool aid.  Do we have numbers on breakdown of rep vs dem on PD in misc cities?  what were the political affiliation of the guys (one was a former cop, right) in georgia and chauvin?   

to the bolded... this wasn't done because they were dem, rather because they we CTA.  this isn't widespread dem conspiracy. 

 

Yeah, ok.  Prior to Democrat control, those cities were predominantly Republican control.  Those cities were built on Republican policies.  Democrats knew that the only way they could get control is to cater to the victim-hood mentality.  They told poor people, that if they vote Democrat, that the Democrats will give them money.  Welfare.  Republican's didn't want to give out government money (because they're not stupid), with little to no oversight/regulation.  Poor people starting voting Democrat for that reason.  Don't you notice that "Victim-hood" is still at the forefront of their platform?  How come in 50, 60, 70 years with total Democrat control, the SAME people who were poor, are STILL poor?  Get your head out of the sand.  Be a part of the solution, and stop being a part of the problem.  Vote Republican.

[KSB2424 3,148]

16 hours ago, tanatastic said:

Every white person needs to just shut up or pledge allegiance to the Floyd cause or they will be blackballed mercilessly. They cannot express love for America, that’s a big no no. You have to even appear anti American or it’s taken as racism.

It’s insane

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

This will be good for business. Revenues were already going down without a doubt. Enjoy your newfound voices boys! 

[tanatastic 2,062]

On social media right now if you support America or show imagery of the flag you are labeled a racist. You have to actively oppose and hate the USA. I still don’t understand why they don’t just leave if it’s so bad. Mexicans and Africans seem to not want anything to do with their great countries of peace and tolerance. 

[posty 2,696]

17 hours ago, tanatastic said:

Every white person needs to just shut up or pledge allegiance to the Floyd cause or they will be blackballed mercilessly. They cannot express love for America, that’s a big no no. You have to even appear anti American or it’s taken as racism.

Yep, just like when Obama was president that if you disagreed with one of his policies you were immediately called a racist...

"Racist" has been used so much by the left since 2009, it doesn't hold any meaning any more...

[Bier Meister 1,710]

4 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Yeah, ok.  Prior to Democrat control, those cities were predominantly Republican control.  Those cities were built on Republican policies.  Democrats knew that the only way they could get control is to cater to the victim-hood mentality.  They told poor people, that if they vote Democrat, that the Democrats will give them money.  Welfare.  Republican's didn't want to give out government money (because they're not stupid), with little to no oversight/regulation.  Poor people starting voting Democrat for that reason.  Don't you notice that "Victim-hood" is still at the forefront of their platform?  How come in 50, 60, 70 years with total Democrat control, the SAME people who were poor, are STILL poor?  Get your head out of the sand.  Be a part of the solution, and stop being a part of the problem.  Vote Republican.

I am not sure if either party has effectively resolved poverty (or other socio-economic problems). I also think many of these problems do not have an immediate fix.  While the different parties have differing platforms for criminal justice (in different areas), what I am talking about is the good ole boy, ignore or brush it under the rug activity- which i believe is done by LEO of both parties on the street.  

I still believe that the role of our government goes beyond border patrol or law enforcement in addition to  wanting to see more of my tax dollars go towards social programs and infrastructure than military funding.  Of course- trim the fat. Take care of those abusing the system.  This can be contrary to conservative stances, so depending of the candidate I will have a blue lean:   Bush sr, Clinton, Clinton, Gore,  Kerry (but did not love him), Obama, Obama, H clinton (but also did not love this option)

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

To quote former New Orleans mayor/convicted felon Ray Nagin, NO is a “chocolate city”. Drew Brees has done more for that city than all his teammates and nay sayers combined.  But we live in the words not deeds era, instead of the other way around. Malcolm Jenkins should step up as much as Brees has before he starts his BS. I forgive Brees for backing off. You can’t hold back the ocean. I know what’s in his heart. 

[Bier Meister 1,710]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

To quote former New Orleans mayor/convicted felon Ray Nagin, NO is a “chocolate city”. Drew Brees has done more for that city than all his teammates and nay sayers combined.  But we live in the words not deeds era, instead of the other way around. Malcolm Jenkins should step up as much as Brees has before he starts his BS. I forgive Brees for backing off. You can’t hold back the ocean. I know what’s in his heart. 

I think he is a pretty upstanding individual that had a mental hiccup.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

Just now, Bier Meister said:

I think he is a pretty upstanding individual that had a mental hiccup.

And I think you are having one as well if you think him wanting to express himself by standing for the NA is wrong. That’s all he said. 

[Meglamaniac 497]

2 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

I think he is a pretty upstanding individual that had a mental hiccup.

There was no hiccup, there is nothing wrong with stating your beliefs.

 

[Bier Meister 1,710]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And I think you are having one as well if you think him wanting to express himself by standing for the NA is wrong. That’s all he said. 

 "Well, I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country." 

 

1.  I think the words never and always should be avoided

2.  Disrespect is subjective

 

I think he could have handled it better.

[Bier Meister 1,710]

8 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

There was no hiccup, there is nothing wrong with stating your beliefs.

 

Depends upon the belief. It not all black and white.  

 

If the kneeling is supposed to oppose mistreatment of a segment of society and brees makes such a statement, he is denouncing that cause and supporting a suppressive system and status quo.  Problems magnify when opinions become harmful actions/or inaction. 

 

He made or comments that did in fact show support for AA.  He has been a representative for the NFLPU and is generally pretty bright.  I think it was a polarizing statement.

 

Also- not over rated  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

9 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

 "Well, I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country." 

 

1.  I think the words never and always should be avoided

2.  Disrespect is subjective

 

I think he could have handled it better.

Is racism subjective sometimes? 

[Strike 5,539]

52 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

I am not sure if either party has effectively resolved poverty (or other socio-economic problems). I also think many of these problems do not have an immediate fix.  While the different parties have differing platforms for criminal justice (in different areas), what I am talking about is the good ole boy, ignore or brush it under the rug activity- which i believe is done by LEO of both parties on the street.  

I still believe that the role of our government goes beyond border patrol or law enforcement in addition to  wanting to see more of my tax dollars go towards social programs and infrastructure than military funding.  Of course- trim the fat. Take care of those abusing the system.  This can be contrary to conservative stances, so depending of the candidate I will have a blue lean:   Bush sr, Clinton, Clinton, Gore,  Kerry (but did not love him), Obama, Obama, H clinton (but also did not love this option)

How do you resolve something when you're constantly importing more of it to replace those who get out of it?