the left slowly pushes to normalize pedophilia

[Shooter McGavin 618]

19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. You think a 4 year old twerking while adults cheer her on isn't sexualizing children. Just dancing, right. Shoo. You have zero cred on these matters. 

The only one sexualizing children is you.  You're a total piece of sh1t as a person, a complete ass hole.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Leave the kids alone.  That is all.

Drag shows geared toward kids put on by towns and sponsored by corporations is not cool.  I choose to say it’s not.  
 

Others make excuses or stay silent.  All the rest is white noise.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,983]

15 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

The only one sexualizing children is you.  You're a total piece of sh1t as a person, a complete ass hole.

There you go again, getting mad about what you said. Happens all the time. 

[TimHauck 2,633]

8 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Leave the kids alone.  That is all.

Drag shows geared toward kids put on by towns and sponsored by corporations is not cool.  I choose to say it’s not.  
 

Others make excuses or stay silent.  All the rest is white noise.

So you’re boycotting Walmart?

[Shooter McGavin 618]

21 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Leave the kids alone.  That is all.

Drag shows geared toward kids put on by towns and sponsored by corporations is not cool.  I choose to say it’s not.  
 

Others make excuses or stay silent.  All the rest is white noise.

No one here is making excuses, we have all said that's it's focked up, we wouldn't take our kids there, etc.  You guys are the ones creating the white noise, constantly calling us pedos when we have the same focking position here.

[MDC 7,163]

12 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

No one here is making excuses, we have all said that's it's focked up, we wouldn't take our kids there, etc.  You guys are the ones creating the white noise, constantly calling us pedos when we have the same focking position here.

They don’t even believe the things they’re saying. Accusing people of grooming is just something Trumpers do now, like sobbing about fake fraud.

[Raven Fan 362]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

As the only one here that attends church on a regular basis still, I find it amusing that people who don’t attend think the Catholic Church is conservative. Abortion (half heartily) and they won’t marry gay people in the church. There ends the conservative platform of the Catholic Church.  Everything else is liberal. The pope is a socialist.  But you guys keep on trucking. I laugh. 

But it's not JUST the catholic church, it's many large churches.  And the Catholic church was way way more conservative back in the 60's - 80's when all the child harm was being hushed up and enabled. 

Now about the boys scouts.   I assume they're not conservative either?

So stupid to use this as sledgehammer for leftist when it's sick people across the spectrum.  But the reality is that organizational acceptance and enabled are almost all conservative organizations. 

[Raven Fan 362]

4 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

I don't agree with you on much, but I agree that all the extreme talk does is push away rational people from your issues and valid points.  

That goes for you too, and the continuous hammering on the IQ of people on the right or when people largely call the right racist.  This is just the flipside of that.  

You can say you disagree all you want.  If you don't think the conservatives focus on this says TONS about them you're very much mistaken.  Conservatives constantly deal in cultural wars and fear.  Never progress.  That kind of manipulation works best on the least smart people.

I won't apologize for recognizing it. 

[BuckSwope 654]

4 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said:

They all play that same game here, HT, KSB, Reality, Crapman, jonmx, cdub, they all go around calling everyone a pedo, create multiple threads about how we're all pedos, we defend pedos, etc.  It sick and disgusting.  They can't stop talking about this stuff.  It's twisted.  Meanwhile most of us have children and abhor such behavior, have never defended it.  The only thing we defend is the LGBTQ community, which they of course call pedos, so they twist that into pedo defending.

It's all very childish and stupid, and in a real world scenario would be offensive, but this is a dumb internet forum where people troll others and call them names to get a rise out of them.  All these trolls have been thoroughly beaten down intellectually with facts, but they still resort to "yeah but groomer".

I am aware.  I've seen enough in the short time here, and a few of those names were on FBGs as well saying the same things.  

I think you are close to some of the truths here, especially as it revolves around the LGBTQ community.   If it's not their intent, it sure comes off as such.  0 clue if they are aware of that or give two craps.   My example of the movies that upset people - Cuties got all the outrage for girls twerking and being sexualized, but there is no outrage on another streaming service of a literal minor being sexualized and shown nude.    My questions then become:  why the outrage over one but not the other?    The people who are boycotting NF over one, are they going to drop HBO knowing that the other movie is on there?     

That doesn't even start getting into the optics of what is causing the outrage and what you were getting at with your comment.   A common thread when you look at Cuties, the books that are being taken out of libraries and boycotted - damn near all are also LGBTQ materials and situations.   Cuties bad but Bolero good (one has lesbian relationships one doesn't).   Some books are bad, but I guess people don't blink an eye if the same library has Stephen King books.  IT has a squirm educing sex romp with the kids.   Do his books and he as an author get similar bannings and outrage or do we largely shrug if our HS kids are reading IT and similar books.      This is when it gets all silly and the outrage comes off as fake and ignorant.  

I am more of a stay out of people's way and let them live their lives person.   Of course that's branded me a groomer as well because I've largely shrugged at examples like the above - Cuties, some of the books in a HS library, things like that.   My reaction is that way because I mostly shrug at all of it, not because I am advocating for one type over the other.   But again, if you aren't as equally outraged and disgusted by all their specific example -  LIB GROOMER!! or at least you are advocating for grooming behavior by your inaction and lack of outrage.  

[Raven Fan 362]

3 hours ago, MDC said:

They don’t even believe the things they’re saying. Accusing people of grooming is just something Trumpers do now, like sobbing about fake fraud.

And the Stop The Steal and attack on our capital are yet two more examples of low IQ behavior.  How exactly am I wrong about conservatives being the party of the low IQ again?  The educated already vote 2/3rds democrat.  Conservatives push this ridiculous groomer nonsense.  Conservatives rally against non-whites and fear of losing their guns and their religion.  Tech, science, medicine, all vastly more liberal than conservative.  Conservatives enclaves are mostly rural with a heavy reliance on religion and non-diversity.

Explain to me how this all doesn't add up to conservatives being the low IQ party.  I'm all ears. 

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, BuckSwope said:

I am aware.  I've seen enough in the short time here, and a few of those names were on FBGs as well saying the same things.  

I think you are close to some of the truths here, especially as it revolves around the LGBTQ community.   If it's not their intent, it sure comes off as such.  0 clue if they are aware of that or give two craps.   My example of the movies that upset people - Cuties got all the outrage for girls twerking and being sexualized, but there is no outrage on another streaming service of a literal minor being sexualized and shown nude.    My questions then become:  why the outrage over one but not the other?    The people who are boycotting NF over one, are they going to drop HBO knowing that the other movie is on there?     

That doesn't even start getting into the optics of what is causing the outrage and what you were getting at with your comment.   A common thread when you look at Cuties, the books that are being taken out of libraries and boycotted - damn near all are also LGBTQ materials and situations.   Cuties bad but Bolero good (one has lesbian relationships one doesn't).   Some books are bad, but I guess people don't blink an eye if the same library has Stephen King books.  IT has a squirm educing sex romp with the kids.   Do his books and he as an author get similar bannings and outrage or do we largely shrug if our HS kids are reading IT and similar books.      This is when it gets all silly and the outrage comes off as fake and ignorant.  

I am more of a stay out of people's way and let them live their lives person.   Of course that's branded me a groomer as well because I've largely shrugged at examples like the above - Cuties, some of the books in a HS library, things like that.   My reaction is that way because I mostly shrug at all of it, not because I am advocating for one type over the other.   But again, if you aren't as equally outraged and disgusted by all their specific example -  LIB GROOMER!! or at least you are advocating for grooming behavior by your inaction and lack of outrage.  

Conservatives rail against cutie but dance mom is perfectly fine.  They act like having two inappropriate books in a school library is a sign of grooming and if you don't suggest burning the school down you're a groomer.  This place is actually quite tame on the pizza gate/grooming nonsense vs some other more conservative forums.

Conservatives are the party of fear.  The party of stupid.  The party of going backwards.

[BuckSwope 654]

4 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

You can say you disagree all you want.  If you don't think the conservatives focus on this says TONS about them you're very much mistaken.  Conservatives constantly deal in cultural wars and fear.  Never progress.  That kind of manipulation works best on the least smart people.

I won't apologize for recognizing it. 

I said I disagree with you usually, especially your phrasing of things,  but I should have been specific on what I did agree with you on, which was your first sentence (although I'd probably use different wording).  This one:

All this low IQ focus on calling leftist pedo supporters and groomer supporters and worrying about nonsense like CRT is doing is pushing the middle away from the cult of Trump and his conservatives.

I've said similar.  They lost this month because they misread the room and pushed too hard on this stuff - abortion bans and stop the steal I also put in the extreme category that largely turns off the middle.   Calling teachers groomers, and focusing so much on CRT and race is also up there.     They could have handily beat the Ds if they turned some of that attention on things that matter more for people or that actually effect them on a daily basis. 

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,983]

Republicans got 6 million more votes than democrats in the mid terms. Considering most major population areas are full of democrats, that says a lot. Culture matters. 

[BuckSwope 654]

5 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Conservatives rail against cutie but dance mom is perfectly fine.  They act like having two inappropriate books in a school library is a sign of grooming and if you don't suggest burning the school down you're a groomer.  This place is actually quite tame on the pizza gate/grooming nonsense vs some other more conservative forums.

Conservatives are the party of fear.  The party of stupid.  The party of going backwards.

Honestly, I think most of the railing against that one movie is because it's the one the Social Media focused on.   Hardly anybody outraged actually watched the dumb thing or thought for very long about it.   Probably an out of context clip or two and done - no context to the rest of the movie or it's intent, no comparison to other movies on all the other services, etc.  Just the typical click-bait outrage fodder that most of SM and news outlets focus on.  

[Raven Fan 362]

19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Republicans got 6 million more votes than democrats in the mid terms. Considering most major population areas are full of democrats, that says a lot. Culture matters. 

Wow, must have been a bigly red wave then...LMFAO

And 6M cultist in Florida ain't winning any elections boyo.  When was the last time conservatives when the popular vote for president?  Or were even close?

SAD

 

[MDC 7,163]

17 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

And the Stop The Steal and attack on our capital are yet two more examples of low IQ behavior.  How exactly am I wrong about conservatives being the party of the low IQ again?  The educated already vote 2/3rds democrat.  Conservatives push this ridiculous groomer nonsense.  Conservatives rally against non-whites and fear of losing their guns and their religion.  Tech, science, medicine, all vastly more liberal than conservative.  Conservatives enclaves are mostly rural with a heavy reliance on religion and non-diversity.

Explain to me how this all doesn't add up to conservatives being the low IQ party.  I'm all ears. 

This handle is so bad I’m beginning to think it’s a Utoilet alias.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

6 minutes ago, MDC said:

This handle is so bad I’m beginning to think it’s a Utoilet alias.

I was thinking the exact same thing

[Shooter McGavin 618]

27 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I am aware.  I've seen enough in the short time here, and a few of those names were on FBGs as well saying the same things.  

I think you are close to some of the truths here, especially as it revolves around the LGBTQ community.   If it's not their intent, it sure comes off as such.  0 clue if they are aware of that or give two craps.   My example of the movies that upset people - Cuties got all the outrage for girls twerking and being sexualized, but there is no outrage on another streaming service of a literal minor being sexualized and shown nude.    My questions then become:  why the outrage over one but not the other?    The people who are boycotting NF over one, are they going to drop HBO knowing that the other movie is on there?     

That doesn't even start getting into the optics of what is causing the outrage and what you were getting at with your comment.   A common thread when you look at Cuties, the books that are being taken out of libraries and boycotted - damn near all are also LGBTQ materials and situations.   Cuties bad but Bolero good (one has lesbian relationships one doesn't).   Some books are bad, but I guess people don't blink an eye if the same library has Stephen King books.  IT has a squirm educing sex romp with the kids.   Do his books and he as an author get similar bannings and outrage or do we largely shrug if our HS kids are reading IT and similar books.      This is when it gets all silly and the outrage comes off as fake and ignorant.  

I am more of a stay out of people's way and let them live their lives person.   Of course that's branded me a groomer as well because I've largely shrugged at examples like the above - Cuties, some of the books in a HS library, things like that.   My reaction is that way because I mostly shrug at all of it, not because I am advocating for one type over the other.   But again, if you aren't as equally outraged and disgusted by all their specific example -  LIB GROOMER!! or at least you are advocating for grooming behavior by your inaction and lack of outrage.  

Exactly.  Also throw out the biggest a hole here, craftsman, is on record saying 14 year old girls are hot, and dated a teen when he was 40. Yet he calls me a pedo for not thinking a 3 year old dancing was sexual in nature.

[BuckSwope 654]

12 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Exactly.  Also throw out the biggest a hole here, craftsman, is on record saying 14 year old girls are hot, and dated a teen when he was 40. Yet he calls me a pedo for not thinking a 3 year old dancing was sexual in nature.

I think I missed a gem of a conversation here.  

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,983]

Twerking isn’t dancing. Twerking is shaking your ass in a sexual manner. It requires no feet or leg movement, which dancing does.  It’s all about the ass, nothing more. 

[BuckSwope 654]

Also, what is the reference to the 4yo twerking?  On a show, someone's kid, what? 

 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

56 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Also, what is the reference to the 4yo twerking?  On a show, someone's kid, what? 

 

Someone posted a video of a toddler dancing and the magatards said that the video was normalizing pedophiles.  I correctly pointed out their stupidity, so they called me a pedo.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,983]

2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Someone posted a video of a toddler dancing and the magatards said that the video was normalizing pedophiles.  I correctly pointed out their stupidity, so they called me a pedo.

 

Yeah, that’s what happened. Funny you’re not bumping that thread. 

[Reality 3,116]

Enjoy.

 

[craftsman 1,045]

14 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Also, what is the reference to the 4yo twerking?  On a show, someone's kid, what? 

 

Another whack liberal dreaming of the 4yo kids.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,983]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Enjoy.

 

Stop saying Pedo! Be better! 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,983]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Enjoy.

 

From sea to shining sea. In Florida we have the teachers union and a major corporation fighting to be able to talk to first graders about sex and gender, and in California we have this. Sick. But don’t say groomer, oh no! That’s the real issue. 

[Reality 3,116]

Because qanon is one hell of a take...

Hello FBI, I'd like to report the NYT and whoever this chick is. Thanks.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,983]

8 minutes ago, Reality said:

Because qanon is one hell of a take...

Hello FBI, I'd like to report the NYT and whoever this chick is. Thanks.

Like many people here, they just say things. It’s the headline that’s important.  Q! 

[BuckSwope 654]

On 11/29/2022 at 8:30 AM, craftsman said:

Another whack liberal dreaming of the 4yo kids.

WTF are you talking about?

[BuckSwope 654]

On 11/29/2022 at 8:28 AM, Reality said:

Enjoy.

 

Outrage against this and being concerned about pedos =  correct 

This is certainly not the stuff that I consider under what he was describing, but this is exactly what people try to do in their framing of what they think the other side is talking about.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,247]

this Balenciaga thing disgusts me to no ends and anyone giving it even the slightest bit of defense should burn in a fire for eternity, not just the pedo bears in bondage but some of their other sh1t is just downright satanic (and I am an athiest)

and for the record before that statement gets called MAGA

I think its sick that 4 year olds are twerking, but its just a modern form of dance (pathetic yes) but I am sure there was a time where watching kids dance to shake it up baby now would have been considered the same

 

[BuckSwope 654]

8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

this Balenciaga thing disgusts me to no ends and anyone giving it even the slightest bit of defense should burn in a fire for eternity, not just the pedo bears in bondage but some of their other sh1t is just downright satanic (and I am an athiest)

and for the record before that statement gets called MAGA

I think its sick that 4 year olds are twerking, but its just a modern form of dance (pathetic yes) but I am sure there was a time where watching kids dance to shake it up baby now would have been considered the same

 

I am starting to think either some of you people have not had kids, or our experiences and thoughts are just that different.  Probably #2.

 I have a 7 year old and she does all sorts of dumb from weird dance moves to playing with herself in the bath, etc.  She has absolutely 0 clue what she is doing because, well - she is a freakin' kid.    Nothing she does is purposely sexual, because - again, she's a kid and she is just doing weird .    

Again, nobody gave me a straight answer about what this example of a 4year twerking was, all I am saying is because of my kid, I can 100% imagine situations like that where it's not sexual.    Me shrugging my shoulders at a one time event, laughing about it with my wife, whatever - doesn't make me a pedo, doesn't mean I "enjoyed" watching it, it means I think it's just goofy kid along with 100 other goofy things she does.   She hasn't twerked, but she does seem to enjoy dancing around poles from time to time and my wife and I have laughed about that - again, she has 0 clue what she was doing.  

That said, I would for sure inquire if she saw that somewhere, and tell her it's not appropriate.  

[Voltaire 5,205]

On 11/29/2022 at 7:03 AM, BuckSwope said:

I think I missed a gem of a conversation here.  

 

Brooke Shields was in her mid-teens when she was cast in The Blue Lagoon in 1980. Teenage Brooke had developed a woman's body at a young age which is surely why she got that role. For their part, the writing, director and camera crew sexed her up for that movie. It was kind of the point. Films like this one sexualizing teenage girls were increasingly controversial and went out of style in the early 80s. The last of the genre may have been Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Craftsman is a fan of Brooke's performance in that film, calls her "sexy" and people give him a hard time for it.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

I am starting to think either some of you people have not had kids, or our experiences and thoughts are just that different.  Probably #2.

 I have a 7 year old and she does all sorts of dumb from weird dance moves to playing with herself in the bath, etc.  She has absolutely 0 clue what she is doing because, well - she is a freakin' kid.    Nothing she does is purposely sexual, because - again, she's a kid and she is just doing weird .    

Again, nobody gave me a straight answer about what this example of a 4year twerking was, all I am saying is because of my kid, I can 100% imagine situations like that where it's not sexual.    Me shrugging my shoulders at a one time event, laughing about it with my wife, whatever - doesn't make me a pedo, doesn't mean I "enjoyed" watching it, it means I think it's just goofy kid along with 100 other goofy things she does.   She hasn't twerked, but she does seem to enjoy dancing around poles from time to time and my wife and I have laughed about that - again, she has 0 clue what she was doing.  

That said, I would for sure inquire if she saw that somewhere, and tell her it's not appropriate.  

EXACTLY!!

Kids are not trying to be sexual.  Any kind of sexuality imposed on a 4 year old comes from an inappropriate adult.  And all the creepy people here that talk about a 4 year old mimicing sex is vile and disgusting, and they should all be ashamed of themselves.

Let the kids be kids, innocent kids.

I would also bet that non of these clowns have a daughter that takes dance class, unless it's ballet or tap, but I can see them freaking out watching a jazz or modern or hip hop class full of young girls.

FYI, if you're really interested in seeing this video that Tardcore is jerks off to, just google "kid twerking times square"

[Shooter McGavin 618]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Brooke Shields was in her mid-teens when she was cast in The Blue Lagoon in 1980. Teenage Brooke had developed a woman's body at a young age which is surely why she got that role. For their part, the writing, director and camera crew sexed her up for that movie. It was kind of the point. Films like this one sexualizing teenage girls were increasingly controversial and went out of style in the early 80s. The last of the genre may have been Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Craftsman is a fan of Brooke's performance in that film, calls her "sexy" and people give him a hard time for it.

She was 14.  The film was inappropriate and any grown man that thought she was hot in that movie is a disgusting piece of sh1t.

This is me defending kids from vile adults.  It's not about threatening to beat up a tranny for dancing in front of kids like the terrible people here often do.  They hate trannies but jo to 14 year old girls.  disgusting.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,247]

17 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I am starting to think either some of you people have not had kids, or our experiences and thoughts are just that different.  Probably #2.

 I have a 7 year old and she does all sorts of dumb from weird dance moves to playing with herself in the bath, etc.  She has absolutely 0 clue what she is doing because, well - she is a freakin' kid.    Nothing she does is purposely sexual, because - again, she's a kid and she is just doing weird .    

Again, nobody gave me a straight answer about what this example of a 4year twerking was, all I am saying is because of my kid, I can 100% imagine situations like that where it's not sexual.    Me shrugging my shoulders at a one time event, laughing about it with my wife, whatever - doesn't make me a pedo, doesn't mean I "enjoyed" watching it, it means I think it's just goofy kid along with 100 other goofy things she does.   She hasn't twerked, but she does seem to enjoy dancing around poles from time to time and my wife and I have laughed about that - again, she has 0 clue what she was doing.  

That said, I would for sure inquire if she saw that somewhere, and tell her it's not appropriate.  

not sure you are meaning to include me in that or not, I pretty much said what you did just stated it differently 

also I think alot of this started because of the Netflix movie Cuties which was downright disgusting

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,247]

8 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

She was 14.  The film was inappropriate and any grown man that thought she was hot in that movie is a disgusting piece of sh1t.

This is me defending kids from vile adults.  It's not about threatening to beat up a tranny for dancing in front of kids like the terrible people here often do.  They hate trannies but jo to 14 year old girls.  disgusting.

Im not trying to make light of it or anything, but for example I watch something like "Clueless" and think damn Alicia was so fricken hot back then, but I think of it as 16 year old me.  I have tried to date 30 year olds and find that kinda gross, like I could literally be her dad

 

[Horseman 2,383]

24 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I have a 7 year old and she does all sorts of dumb from weird dance moves to playing with herself in the bath, etc. 

Another sicko that bathes with his kids.  Figures.  

[MDC 7,163]

17 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Brooke Shields was in her mid-teens when she was cast in The Blue Lagoon in 1980. Teenage Brooke had developed a woman's body at a young age which is surely why she got that role. For their part, the writing, director and camera crew sexed her up for that movie. It was kind of the point. Films like this one sexualizing teenage girls were increasingly controversial and went out of style in the early 80s. The last of the genre may have been Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Craftsman is a fan of Brooke's performance in that film, calls her "sexy" and people give him a hard time for it.

Crapman brings it on himself.