Vice presidential debate.

[porkbutt 897]

6 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Longtime uber successful politician against an affirmative action slut.  Is there anything less than kid gloves?  That's what Pence used last night.

but newbie says she won

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1 minute ago, porkbutt said:

but newbie says she won

tubbie thinks she is well spoken.

[The Observer 641]

Just now, porkbutt said:

but newbie says she won

Here's what I said.  Feel free to offer a varying opinion.  I love a good discussion.. 

 

I thought it was a good debate. As with 99% of debates, it won't move the needle. There was nothing anyone will remember in a week. That's because you had two intelligent people up there, respectfully debating. Harris predictably destroyed him on his handling of the coronavirus. But he hammered her pretty good on the way they're flip-flopping on that Green New Deal.

Both of them dodged some issues they didn't want to discuss. Harris refused to give an answer about packing the courts. Pence refused to give an answer about whether Trump would honor the election results. Harris wouldn't explain the contradiction between saying taxes won't be raised at all for anyone under $400,000 but would eliminate Trump's tax cuts from day one. Pence wouldn't explain the contradiction between saying people with pre-existing conditions would keep their health care but they're currently in court trying to take away their health care.

As predicted, Biden supporters are saying Harris won and Trump supporters are saying Pence won. I would imagine that for independents, there was no big impression made either way. More importantly, neither did anything to screw things up. I enjoyed watching the debate. Unlike that show 2 weeks ago. With Biden having a double digit lead nationally, the fact that it won't move the needle is a good thing for Harris and Biden. At this point, they just have to avoid making big mistakes. 

More importantly, it was nice to turn it off and go to be not being embarrassed to be an american like I did two weeks ago. 

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This was pretty funny.  Gotta love Trump sometimes.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/07/trump-campaign-invites-tupac-to-vp-debate-in-jab-at-harris/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&__twitter_impression=true

[cmh6476 1,126]

I actually watched it.  I don't want Harris to be President.  Evah.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Pence got 38pct in the CNN poll. Which means he killed it. Trump got 28 pct. 

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20 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

I actually watched it.  I don't want Harris to be President.  Evah.

Oh God no......she is emblematic of every aspect of a politician that I truly despise.

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2 hours ago, The Observer said:

But I thought you guys were just saying how tough Trump was for beating covid.  Now you're telling me he really didn't even have symptoms and anyone would have beat it?   Make up your minds please.

Link?

I'm just pointing out that when the POTUS comes down with a potentially life threatening virus, they pull out all the stops to ensure he gets the best possible care. Whether he needed it or not, he was going to get treatment. 

[porkbutt 897]

8 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Here's what I said.  Feel free to offer a varying opinion.  I love a good discussion.. 

 

I thought it was a good debate. As with 99% of debates, it won't move the needle. There was nothing anyone will remember in a week. That's because you had two intelligent people up there, respectfully debating. Harris predictably destroyed him on his handling of the coronavirus. But he hammered her pretty good on the way they're flip-flopping on that Green New Deal.

Both of them dodged some issues they didn't want to discuss. Harris refused to give an answer about packing the courts. Pence refused to give an answer about whether Trump would honor the election results. Harris wouldn't explain the contradiction between saying taxes won't be raised at all for anyone under $400,000 but would eliminate Trump's tax cuts from day one. Pence wouldn't explain the contradiction between saying people with pre-existing conditions would keep their health care but they're currently in court trying to take away their health care.

As predicted, Biden supporters are saying Harris won and Trump supporters are saying Pence won. I would imagine that for independents, there was no big impression made either way. More importantly, neither did anything to screw things up. I enjoyed watching the debate. Unlike that show 2 weeks ago. With Biden having a double digit lead nationally, the fact that it won't move the needle is a good thing for Harris and Biden. At this point, they just have to avoid making big mistakes. 

More importantly, it was nice to turn it off and go to be not being embarrassed to be an american like I did two weeks ago. 

you also said this

16 hours ago, The Observer said:

Does anyone else kind of preemptively feel bad for Mike Pence?  He is so unlikable to begin with, with his robotic mannerisms and his constant Trump rimming, but he is about to run into a buzzsaw tonight. Kamala is going to absolutely destroy him. He is the head of the coronavirus task force which is currently running rampant through the white house. And she is very well aware of all of the lies he told that all of those briefings.  I'm kind of hoping they have Herb Dean on the stage so he can stop it if it gets too bloody.

pence destroyed her on: green new deal, environment, fracking, blm with the grand jury comment...all things that are supposedly dems strong points. he won on trade too.no answer on court packing was a joke. almost felt bad for her.  harris maybe won coronavirus. and her lies about preexisting conditions. bringing up boogeyman white supremacy was laughable.

pence came off as calm cool and professional and systematically took her apart. she comes off as a cackling bitter bish.

even liberal news was leaning pence or draw. all they wanna do is talk about a fly and "mansplaining" because they know he clearly won.

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2 hours ago, Reality said:

Yes, of course, everybody knows this. Only an absolute idiot would think otherwise. Hence, well, you see the responses.

I get that he hates the President but if his idol Obama had contracted covid while in office, he too would have been admitted to Walter Reed for treatment. 

 

[posty 2,809]

Could someone tell that Newbie, that the presidential debate was eight days ago, not two weeks...  I noticed that when someone quoted him...

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

1 minute ago, posty said:

Could someone tell that Newbie, that the presidential debate was eight days ago, not two weeks...  I noticed that when someone quoted him...

You’re as childish as he is, and far less interesting.  Go away

[Utilit99 4,099]

That slut's voice sounds like a trashy ghetto version of Linda Cohn. Plus she's stupid and if she ends up VP, which is trending in that direction, the majority of the people of this country will have proven they still need baby-sitters. Just begging for someone to take care of them instead of wanting to do work on their own to make a great life. 

This socialist political crap the left is displaying and their sheep eating it up is f*cking disgusting. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Her father doesn’t like her. Ever notice she doesn’t bring him up? Patterns. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Her father doesn’t like her. Ever notice she doesn’t bring him up? Patterns. 

That might be because her father claims to descend from a slave owner, and she doesn't want to have to explain how a POC owes reparations to other POC.

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

That might be because her father claims to descend from a slave owner, and she doesn't want to have to explain how a POC owes reparations to other POC.

Her father is from Jamaica isn't he? Did they have slaves there too? Or was he talking about the slaves that the African people had for their own. The ones they didn't sell? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Her father is from Jamaica isn't he? Did they have slaves there too? Or was he talking about the slaves that the African people had for their own. The ones they didn't sell? 

Her descendants owned a plantation in Jamaica. Full of slaves. 

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1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

Her father is from Jamaica isn't he? Did they have slaves there too? Or was he talking about the slaves that the African people had for their own. The ones they didn't sell? 

In Jamaica.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

That might be because her father claims to descend from a slave owner, and she doesn't want to have to explain how a POC owes reparations to other POC.

Her father chastised her for saying “of course I smoked pot, I’m Jamaican “. He didn’t like that stereotype being furthered. Sounds like a good guy. Plus he knows she’s a hore

[The Observer 641]

22 minutes ago, porkbutt said:

you also said this

pence destroyed her on: green new deal, environment, fracking, blm with the grand jury comment...all things that are supposedly dems strong points. he won on trade too.no answer on court packing was a joke. almost felt bad for her.  harris maybe won coronavirus. and her lies about preexisting conditions. bringing up boogeyman white supremacy was laughable.

pence came off as calm cool and professional and systematically took her apart. she comes off as a cackling bitter bish.

even liberal news was leaning pence or draw. all they wanna do is talk about a fly and "mansplaining" because they know he clearly won.

And she destroyed him on his Covid response, irresponsibility of the rose garden ceremony, taking away health insurance, deserting our allies and nuzzling up to our enemies, How we got killed in the trade war with China...  I could go on and on.   I admitted that Pence did better than I thought he would.    It was basically a draw where the most memorable thing that happened was the fly on Pence's head. 

I hate to tell you this, Trump/Pence don't need ties. Or unmemorable events at this point.  They need game changing moments.  Surviving a fly on the head isn't quite that.  hth

[The Observer 641]

13 minutes ago, posty said:

Could someone tell that Newbie, that the presidential debate was eight days ago, not two weeks...  I noticed that when someone quoted him...

LOL  Love how you point out that you only notice because I was quoted. 

Dude, not one single person here believes you have me on ignore.  Not one.,  You're too much of a paranoid sissy-boy to possibly miss something I say about you. So stop the charade. It makes you look more pathetic than you already are.  

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Her father chastised her for saying “of course I smoked pot, I’m Jamaican “. He didn’t like that stereotype being furthered. Sounds like a good guy. Plus he knows she’s a hore

Random guy asks her father: "So what does your daughter do for a living?"

He replies: "She sucks cack for political gain."

[The Observer 641]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Random guy asks her father: "So what does your daughter do for a living?"

He replies: "She sucks cack for political gain."

Do malania next

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Democrats sure did change their minds about a lot of things. Fracking is now great. Green New Deal is off the table and no more defunding the police, just more police that can talk jive.

[The Observer 641]

8 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

Democrats sure did change their minds about a lot of things. Fracking is now great. Green New Deal is off the table and no more defunding the police, just more police that can talk jive.

Are you suggesting a nominee crept more towards the middle for the general election than they were for the primary??   This will forever change elections!!!!

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

Democrats sure did change their minds about a lot of things. Fracking is now great. Green New Deal is off the table and no more defunding the police, just more police that can talk jive.

They are f*cking idiots. Everything they say now is to get votes. They will not follow up on any of it. If they win, their number 1 agenda is to start planning on how to keep power in government by keeping people dependent on them. They will tax the hell out of everyone and pocket it for their own purposes. Nothing else. They will try to control every service in the country and they will eventually turn it all into a massive DMV type line.  Good luck getting medical care when no one wants to be a doctor and work for garbage government wages. We'll be like Canada having to schedule surgeries out 6-12 months if at all. 

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Just now, The Observer said:

Are you suggesting a nominee crept more towards the middle for the general election than they were for the primary??   This will forever change elections!!!!

Not crept. Like ran full blast to get back to the center. They weren't even on the course when they started. Just last week they stopped the defunding the police. They ran out of time though are are just denying all their other positions like they never said it. Fracking is in 21 states with 8 more waiting. Ain't gonna work shuttin that down.

[The Observer 641]

Just now, FlyinHeadlock said:

Not crept. Like ran full blast to get back to the center. They weren't even on the course when they started. Just last week they stopped the defunding the police. They ran out of time though are are just denying all their other positions like they never said it. Fracking is in 21 states with 8 more waiting. Ain't gonna work shuttin that down.

The primary is for winning the voters in your party. The general is about winning the moderates/independents.  To pretend this is something new or sinister makes you sound like this this is your first election. 

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5 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

They are f*cking idiots. Everything they say now is to get votes. They will not follow up on any of it. If they win, their number 1 agenda is to start planning on how to keep power in government by keeping people dependent on them. They will tax the hell out of everyone and pocket it for their own purposes. Nothing else. They will try to control every service in the country and they will eventually turn it all into a massive DMV type line.  Good luck getting medical care when no one wants to be a doctor and work for garbage government wages. We'll be like Canada having to schedule surgeries out 6-12 months if at all. 

They say whatever gets them someone's vote. Once they get your vote, you are tossed in the nearest garbage can. 

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

The primary is for winning the voters in your party. The general is about winning the moderates/independents.  To pretend this is something new or sinister makes you sound like this this is your first election. 

Dem primary is rigged. Votes don't matter in that race.

[The Observer 641]

Just now, FlyinHeadlock said:

Dem primary is rigged. Votes don't matter in that race.

   My God.  Is there a single conspiracy theory you don't believe?  Sucker

[KayJay1971 239]

18 hours ago, The Observer said:

he is the head of the task force of the biggest failure of the last century in this country. The handling of the coronavirus. Not only was it handled poorly for the country, the White House and entire Trump administration is getting sick. he literally has no excuse for how they handle things and are currently infected. and she is not going to allow him to stand up there and lie like he does to the American people.

Oh no. The virus is also running rampant through Gavin Newsome's staff as well. It appears this could happen to any political group. Even the ones who seem to be over cautious with preventative measure IE. California. 

 

https://deadline.com/2020/10/two-staffers-in-california-governor-gavin-newsoms-office-test-positive-for-coronavirus-as-newsom-is-evasive-about-his-own-testing-history-1234593134/

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

Just now, The Observer said:

   My God.  Is there a single conspiracy theory you don't believe?  Sucker

They went to court over it and admitted the DNC chooses. It's their party. How is a court case they admitted it a conspiracy. It's fact. That fat black woman even told Bernie Hillary bought the DNC. She bought the party with her own money. Donna Brazille...you know damn well it's not a conspiracy.

[porkbutt 897]

that was a cool fake lincoln quote she threw out there though.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

If anyone was undecided heading into last night, and I doubt there were many, Pence won them over. Small potatoes,  but that’s what happened. The libtards in the media know it, that’s why they are going the man-splain route and talking about the fly. Black flies matter. 

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

They went to court over it and admitted the DNC chooses. It's their party. How is a court case they admitted it a conspiracy. It's fact. That fat black woman even told Bernie Hillary bought the DNC. She bought the party with her own money. Donna Brazille...you know damn well it's not a conspiracy.

All I can do is laugh at suckers like you

So, in your mentally-challenged world, the DNC picked a moderate party mainstay like Biden, with the plan for him to pick a more progressive candidate liek Harris as his running mate?  So that he can hang it up after 2 years and hand the presidency to Harris?    Is that what you're trying to sell?

[KayJay1971 239]

17 hours ago, The Observer said:

Harris will be the 47th president

Trump will be the 46th president. 

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

Just now, The Observer said:

All I can do is laugh at suckers like you

So, in your mentally-challenged world, the DNC picked a moderate party mainstay like Biden, with the plan for him to pick a more progressive candidate liek Harris as his running mate?  So that he can hang it up after 2 years and hand the presidency to Harris?    Is that what you're trying to sell?

Look at all the people that dropped out just in time to block Bernie. Bernie was running away with it then all of a sudden the hammer dropped. Warren, the gay guy, Klobachard. they all just bowed out no problem when they were somewhat still in it. That is no conspiracy. DNC told them to take a hike. GOP in 16 that was never going to happen. They fought to the end.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Shows you how FOS the polls are. If Harris/Biden were really winning Pennsylvania by double didgets then they wouldn’t have to run away from fracking like they have. They know.