Only 6% of U.S. retail businesses are black owned

[vuduchile 1,941]

According to the commercial I just saw, that NEEDS to change.  

Why can’t we just encourage folks of all colors to open their own biz instead?  

Depending on the type of retail biz you choose, it’s not really that hard. 

And the barriers to entry aren’t as numerous or difficult to overcome as other types of start-ups.  
 

 

 

[Vikings4ever 496]

What's the % that are Asian/Indian owned? If they're overrepresented, does that need to change?

[JustinCharge 2,397]

5 minutes ago, vuduchile said:

According to the commercial I just saw, that NEEDS to change. 

We are the land of the free, not quotas.  No system is perfect.  But in trying to destroy freedoms to create quotas, you open the door to tyranny.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Didn't antifa just burn down a bunch of them?  

[Cdub100 3,389]

Considering their population density that sounds about right.

What am I missing here.

[GutterBoy 2,281]

10 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

We are the land of the free, not quotas.  No system is perfect.  But in trying to destroy freedoms to create quotas, you open the door to tyranny.

 

There is no quota on opening a business

[vuduchile 1,941]

3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Considering their population density that sounds about right.

What am I missing here.

Depending on the category, brick and mortar retail can be a tough way to make a living.  But it can be done by anyone willing to work hard and live frugally early on. 
 

Skin color is no factor whatsoever.  Literally none.  

[GutterBoy 2,281]

7 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Considering their population density that sounds about right.

What am I missing here.

I think what you meant is demographics, not density.

And according to the demographics, it should be 13%, not 6%

[bostonlager 2,467]

The bigger concern is the disproportionate amount of crime they commit. 

[vuduchile 1,941]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

I think what you meant is demographics, not density.

And according to the demographics, it should be 13%, not 6%

Why should it be anything?  
 

Retail shops aren’t distributed to U.S. citizens based on demographics.  
 

They’re opened by people who have ideas and/or a desire to be their own boss.  

[GutterBoy 2,281]

2 minutes ago, vuduchile said:

Why should it be anything?  

Fairness

[vuduchile 1,941]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Fairness

So should I give one of my retail stores to a black person in the interest of fairness?

 

 

[GutterBoy 2,281]

Just now, vuduchile said:

So should I give one of my retail stores to a black person in the interest of fairness?

 

 

No.  More black people should be encouraged and given opportunities to open their own.  Has nothing to do with you, scared white person.

[Cdub100 3,389]

9 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I think what you meant is demographics, not density.

And according to the demographics, it should be 13%, not 6%

Adults do not make up that whole 13% number. Why would you include children and old people in your numbers? 

So no it shouldn't be 13%.

[Gladiators 1,904]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No.  More black people should be encouraged and given opportunities to open their own.  Has nothing to do with you, scared white person.

Why do they need to be encouraged? How are they not given opportunities to open their own?

[5-Points 2,736]

16 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I think what you meant is demographics, not density.

And according to the demographics, it should be 13%, not 6%

Why? 13% of a population shouldn't necessarily own 13% of businesses. Running your own business is a lot of work. Most people can't and/or don't want to do it. 

 

[GutterBoy 2,281]

5 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Adults do not make up that whole 13% number. Why would you include children and old people in your numbers? 

So no it shouldn't be 13%.

Nice try but no, Captain density

[Strike 3,995]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No.  More black people should be encouraged and given opportunities to open their own.  Has nothing to do with you, scared white person.

Who's stopping them?

[GutterBoy 2,281]

4 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Why do they need to be encouraged? How are they not given opportunities to open their own?

Lack of resources, lack of education, lack of role models, lack of ambition.  Do you really not know this?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,695]

So if given the opportunity, they will undoubtably be successful. Where can I invest? Or is this a tax payer thing? Because we all know that that guy doesn’t count anymore. Just print it. 

[vuduchile 1,941]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

No.  More black people should be encouraged and given opportunities to open their own.  Has nothing to do with you, scared white person.

How about this?  
 

ANY person of ANY color is welcome to make me a buy out offer at any time. 
 

Including you.  
 

You could sell booster seats, cat saddles and step stools.  
 

 

[Gladiators 1,904]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Lack of resources, lack of education, lack of role models, lack of ambition.  Do you really not know this?

My bad. I thought you were serious. Carry on.

[GutterBoy 2,281]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Why? 13% of a population shouldn't necessarily own 13% of businesses. Running your own business is a lot of work. Most people can't and/or don't want to do it. 

 

I agree, but if everything was a level playing field, the data would play out that way.

I'm white and I don't want to own a business

[Strike 3,995]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Lack of resources, lack of education, lack of role models, lack of ambition.  Do you really not know this?

Lots of people lack resources.

There is no education requirement to open a business, as opposed to being a lawyer or doctor.

Most of the NBA is black.  What more do  they need for role models?

Lack of ambition has nothing to do with color.

Next excuse?

[GutterBoy 2,281]

Just now, Gladiators said:

My bad. I thought you were serious. Carry on.

Oh my bad, everything between whites and blacks is completely fair, forgot that.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,695]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Lack of resources, lack of education, lack of role models, lack of ambition.  Do you really not know this?

Well, you are right about the lack of ambition for many.  But I would say that about anyone who lived off the dole. Nice job, racist. 

[Fireballer 2,391]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Lack of resources, lack of education, lack of role models, lack of ambition.  Do you really not know this?

What encouragement and opportunities do they need to achieve the things you mentioned?

[GutterBoy 2,281]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Lots of people lack resources.

There is no education requirement to open a business, as opposed to being a lawyer or doctor.

Most of the NBA is black.  What more do  they need for role models?

Lack of ambition has nothing to do with color.

Next excuse?

So then they're just lazy?

[GutterBoy 2,281]

4 minutes ago, vuduchile said:

How about this?  
 

ANY person of ANY color is welcome to make me a buy out offer at any time. 
 

Including you.  
 

You could sell booster seats, cat saddles and step stools.  
 

 

Pass

[Strike 3,995]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

So then they're just lazy?

I would never be so presumptuous as to suggest what someone else's motivation to do or not do something are.  Additionally, there is no requirement that the percentage of people doing a certain thing exactly match the demographics of our great nation.  Everyone is free to pursue their own interests.  I don't call white people lazy because the NBA isn't 65% white. Do you?

[GutterBoy 2,281]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

I would never be so presumptuous as to suggest what someone else's motivation to do or not do something are.  Additionally, there is no requirement that the percentage of people doing a certain thing exactly match the demographics of our great nation.  Everyone is free to pursue their own interests.  I don't call white people lazy because the NBA isn't 65% white. Do you?

There is no requirement.

I assume the ad is encouraging more black owned businesses.  How could anyone be against that?  What's wrong with having more black owned businesses?

[vuduchile 1,941]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Oh my bad, everything between whites and blacks is completely fair, forgot that.

That’s my point. This industry is extremely fair.  Minorities and immigrants open retail shops all the time   

And opportunities abound for anyone with the balls to enter the space right now.  

Skin color is not a factor here.  

 

 

[Cdub100 3,389]

9 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Nice try but no, Captain density

Yeah the proud boys are stopping all the black 6 year olds from starting a business.

Why have you gone full retard these past couple months?

[Strike 3,995]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

There is no requirement.

I assume the ad is encouraging more black owned businesses.  How could anyone be against that?  What's wrong with having more black owned businesses?

You didn't answer my question.  Why not?  Have you seen the ad?

[GutterBoy 2,281]

Just now, vuduchile said:

That’s my point. This industry is extremely fair.  Minorities and immigrants open retail shops all the time   

And opportunities abound for anyone with the balls to enter the space right now.  

Skin color is not a factor here.  

 

 

Then why are blacks underrepresented?  And what's wrong with encouraging more?

[GutterBoy 2,281]

Just now, Strike said:

You didn't answer my question.  Why not?  Have you seen the ad?

No I haven't seen the ad

[GutterBoy 2,281]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

Yeah the proud boys are stopping all the black 6 year olds from starting a business.

Why have you gone full retard these past couple months?

Nobody said that, density bro.  You said dumb sh1t

[Strike 3,995]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

No I haven't seen the ad

And you still haven't answered my question.  I guess, like the people you love arguing with, you don't really want to discuss this issue.  Because people who do realize it's a give and take to have a discussion, and I've addressed every point you've brought up.  I ask one simple question and you refuse to answer it.  I guess we're done.

[Utilit99 4,099]

They know first hand about all the looting. They don't want anything to do with being on the business owner side. 

[vuduchile 1,941]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Then why are blacks underrepresented?  And what's wrong with encouraging more?

I don’t know why.   And there’s nothing wrong with encouraging more people of all colors to start their own biz. 
 

But the % of black owned retail shops  doesn’t NEED to change IMO. This type of language is unnecessary and divisive. 
 

It could change.  It might change, but I can’t see any reason that it NEEDS to.