Kopy 496 Posted January 14, 2022 Someday, when they make a Covid vaccine. I'll happily take it. Let me know when they make one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,501 Posted January 14, 2022 Pfizer CEO Condemns SCOTUS Ruling As A ‘Clear Violation Of Our Constitutional Right To Produce Experimental Drugs And Use The Full Power Of Government To Force The Entire Population To Inject Them Into Their Bodies’ https://babylonbee.com/news/pfizer-ceo-condemns-scotus-ruling-as-a-clear-violation-of-our-constitutional-right-to-billions-in-profits 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 43 minutes ago, Kopy said: Someday, when they make a Covid vaccine. I'll happily take it. Let me know when they make one. We have one now. Or are you saying that you only want a vaccine that is 100% effective? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,959 Posted January 14, 2022 I saw a doctor/ scientist from MIT on Fox last night saying don’t give your children the vax. I know those MIT folks are rabid conservatives and all, eye roll, but they are scientists. I guess we should dismiss what she said because it was on Fox? It’s the world we live in for some. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,501 Posted January 14, 2022 19 hours ago, Djgb13 said: Awe is that why you’re so triggered? You feel inferior to me? I’m sorry bro. Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings but that’s life. Maybe you’ll learn one day as old as you are not to be a little B1tch Tilt Baker for the win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 14, 2022 13 hours ago, RLLD said: I find it curious that three of the judges ruled not based on the constitution or the rights of the people at all..... To me, this is a huge point. The mandate was a clear overstep of presidential powers and they ignored it for political reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,661 Posted January 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: We have one now. Or are you saying that you only want a vaccine that is 100% effective? How bout just let me know when it has minimal chance of preventing Covid 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: How bout just let me know when it has minimal chance of preventing Covid It has a minimal chance now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,661 Posted January 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: It has a minimal chance now. no, it has zero studies showing it has ANY chance of making ANY one immune if you are vaxxed or not you will get covid, period. get exposed enough its a guarantee no other "vaccine" can that be said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: no, it has zero studies showing it has ANY chance of making ANY one immune if you are vaxxed or not you will get covid, period. get exposed enough its a guarantee no other "vaccine" can that be said I'm not gonna disagree on that, when you say "Get exposed enough", sure. The new variant changed everything. There are studies out there that show it has some efficacy. There is good data that it helps prevent serious illness though. But since that wasn't the original intent, it's just another excuse for the petulant little fools like yourself to avoid it. Since it's clear that everyone is gonna get this at some point, good luck. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 496 Posted January 14, 2022 A symptom reducer isn't a vaccine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Kopy said: A symptom reducer isn't a vaccine I'm sorry buddy but it is a vaccine by definition. That's a fact that you really can't argue. I'm sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,204 Posted January 14, 2022 20 hours ago, Old School said: What happens to all the folks who have been fired by their employers for not taking the jab? Nothing.... 20 hours ago, lod001 said: Hopefully they can sue the employers. .... because the employer will say they did this on their own account. If a business wants to mandate the vaccine for their employees, that's their right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 496 Posted January 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I'm sorry buddy but it is a vaccine by definition. That's a fact that you really can't argue. I'm sorry. Don't be sorry for me buddy. Like I said earlier. Make a vaccine, and I'm in. I don't drink kool aid or shoot kool aid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,583 Posted January 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: It has a minimal chance now. Lord Fauci said himself which was surprising that basically everyone is going to get covid vaxed or not. But your statement is probably still true. It may have very minimal chance of working right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,661 Posted January 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I'm not gonna disagree on that, when you say "Get exposed enough", sure. The new variant changed everything. There are studies out there that show it has some efficacy. There is good data that it helps prevent serious illness though. But since that wasn't the original intent, it's just another excuse for the petulant little fools like yourself to avoid it. Since it's clear that everyone is gonna get this at some point, good luck. already had it, been exposed daily to it since why do I need a useless "vaccine" I know, just shut up and get it you know what has amazing efficacy? not being a slob fat fock and exercising Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Kopy said: Don't be sorry for me buddy. Like I said earlier. Make a vaccine, and I'm in. I don't drink kool aid or shoot kool aid. Now you're lying. Because there is a vaccine, and you still refuse to take it. There is no reason for you to lie, just say "I don't want it. I'm scared, I feel like I don't need it, I don't trust it, etc" Those are all valid reasons to not want, and it's within your right to make that choice. But when you say "It's not a vaccine" well that just makes you look dumb. It is by definition a vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: already had it, been exposed daily to it since why do I need a useless "vaccine" I know, just shut up and get it If you've already had covid then yeah I don't see why you would need a vaccine. I had covid, then I got vaccinated, then I got covid again. There is no escape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,661 Posted January 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: If you've already had covid then yeah I don't see why you would need a vaccine. I had covid, then I got vaccinated, then I got covid again. There is no escape. so I am not some petulant little fool I had covid, didnt get vaccinated spent 3 days with 6 people who were all vaccinated and got covid, I got sick with the same symptoms as them, but didn't have covid no solution any govt agency has pushed has had any success, so why bow down and listen to them just cause? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 496 Posted January 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Now you're lying. Because there is a vaccine, and you still refuse to take it. There is no reason for you to lie, just say "I don't want it. I'm scared, I feel like I don't need it, I don't trust it, etc" Those are all valid reasons to not want, and it's within your right to make that choice. But when you say "It's not a vaccine" well that just makes you look dumb. It is by definition a vaccine. Can you show me where to get this vaccine. I'll get it today, and PM you a video. An in action video if you will. There's a couple shots, and some sort of magic bean pills that's getting pushed through now. But I haven't been told of this vaccine yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,661 Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Kopy said: Can you show me where to get this vaccine. I'll get it today, and PM you a video. An in action video if you will. There's a couple shots, and some sort of magic bean pills that's getting pushed through now. But I haven't been told of this vaccine yet. if we change what classifies as a vaccine then it is then a vaccine a boy is a girl now so why can't you just accept this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 14, 2022 14 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Just get the vaccine you pussay 12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Now you're lying. Because there is a vaccine, and you still refuse to take it. There is no reason for you to lie, just say "I don't want it. I'm scared, I feel like I don't need it, I don't trust it, etc" Those are all valid reasons to not want, and it's within your right to make that choice. But when you say "It's not a vaccine" well that just makes you look dumb. It is by definition a vaccine. Talking out of both ends comes to mind... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,423 Posted January 14, 2022 We have a "vaxx or test" mandate at work. Numerous guys got vaxxed in Jan/Feb when people believed the rhetoric about the vaxx. They've taken antibody tests recently and show ZERO immunity. None, zilch, zero. And they haven't gotten Covid. These people are in the exact same circumstances, immunity/protection-wise as the unvaxxed that have to get tested weekly. They have the same "dangers" of all those health professionals that were fired. But, since they have at least twice, bowed at the alter of the Covid gods they walk around enjoying all the exemptions of the vaxxed/boosted. This has little to do with preventing illness, and much to do with compliance. The premise that these mandates are based on is completely arbitrary and one of the greatest abominations forced on society. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,924 Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: It has a minimal chance now. I haven't seen anything that proves it minimizes getting covid. I know far more people who have gotten covid than haven't and the majority of them are vaccinated. I think it does minimize the symptoms once you get it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kopy said: Can you show me where to get this vaccine. I'll get it today, and PM you a video. An in action video if you will. There's a couple shots, and some sort of magic bean pills that's getting pushed through now. But I haven't been told of this vaccine yet. It's cute to see you continue to deny that a vaccine exists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: Talking out of both ends comes to mind... How so? It is everyone's individual right to choose if they get the vaccine or not. I also believe if you decide not to get it and give up your career, then that was the wrong choice. But it's his choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 496 Posted January 14, 2022 If I take a Polio vax. I don't get Polio. If I take a symptom reducing flu shot. I still get the flu. If I take a Covid vax, I still get Covid. So not a "vaccine". A symptom reducing shot. I don't want a shot, I want a vaccine. You seem to know where we get these. So please let me know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,924 Posted January 14, 2022 It's complete BS that they changed the definition of what a vaccine is just for this virus. It's pretty much legal false advertising now. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, Kopy said: If I take a Polio vax. I don't get Polio. If I take a symptom reducing flu shot. I still get the flu. If I take a Covid vax, I still get Covid. So not a "vaccine". A symptom reducing shot. I don't want a shot, I want a vaccine. You seem to know where we get these. So please let me know. The polio vaccine is only 99% effective, you can still get polio after getting a vaccine, same with covid, same with the flu, or pneumonia, or chicken pox, etc. If you are serious about educating yourself, here is a link: https://www.historyofvaccines.org/index.php/content/articles/top-20-questions-about-vaccination You continue to sound like a fool by repeating the lie that the covid vaccine is not a vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: It's complete BS that they changed the definition of what a vaccine is just for this virus. It's pretty much legal false advertising now. That's not what happened. The definition was changed to be more accurate. It had nothing to do with the covid vaccine being less than 100% effective. We have a history of vaccines that are not 100% effective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,924 Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, GutterBoy said: That's not what happened. The definition was changed to be more accurate. It had nothing to do with the covid vaccine being less than 100% effective. We have a history of vaccines that are not 100% effective. A vaccine was always meant to prevent disease and they always have. They may not be 100% but they did prevent diseases like they were designed to do. The covid vaccine is not preventing anything. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 496 Posted January 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: The polio vaccine is only 99% effective, you can still get polio after getting a vaccine, same with covid, same with the flu, or pneumonia, or chicken pox, etc. If you are serious about educating yourself, here is a link: https://www.historyofvaccines.org/index.php/content/articles/top-20-questions-about-vaccination You continue to sound like a fool by repeating the lie that the covid vaccine is not a vaccine. Well now finally we agree with each other. We both agree the other one is a fool At least something good came from this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 496 Posted January 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: A vaccine was always meant to prevent disease and they always have. They may not be 100% but they did prevent diseases like they were designed to do. The covid vaccine is not preventing anything. You said it even better than I did. And I tried 10 times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,661 Posted January 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: The polio vaccine is only 99% effective, you can still get polio after getting a vaccine, same with covid, same with the flu, or pneumonia, or chicken pox, etc. If you are serious about educating yourself, here is a link: https://www.historyofvaccines.org/index.php/content/articles/top-20-questions-about-vaccination You continue to sound like a fool by repeating the lie that the covid vaccine is not a vaccine. wrong That said, the effectiveness of most vaccines is high. After receiving the second dose of the MMR vaccine (measles, mumps and rubella) or the standalone measles vaccine, 99.7% of vaccinated individuals are immune to measles. The inactivated polio vaccine offers 99% effectiveness after three doses. The varicella (chickenpox) vaccine is between 85% and 90% effective in preventing all varicella infections, but 100% effective in preventing moderate and severe chicken pox. ....................... from your own article, see that key word? IMMUNE. 99.7 people are immune to measles, meaning if you are in the .3% where the vaccine doesn't work with you, then you are at risk always. The other 99.7% of people will be 100% IMMUNE to measles, being around 1 million people with measles you will be 100% safe for what its worth prior to the Chicken pox vaccine the standard of classification for a "vaccine" was 90% IMMUNITY, Rubela tested at 87% which is why they had to pair it with MMR in order to classify it as a vaccine (overall efficacy now 98%) The Pox vaccine is 85-90% of making you IMMUNE, and if it doesn't reduces the severity at 100% the covid "vaccine" does NOT fit with any of the above Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted January 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kopy said: You said it even better than I did. And I tried 10 times Telling people to get this "vaccine" is less important than telling people not to get fat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,245 Posted January 14, 2022 People still comparing the useless juice for this weak ass virus to the polio vaccine are serious morons. The dumbest fucktards on the planet. It's amazing how one retard can spout off about polio vaccine and the rest of the idiots fall right in line with 'yeah, the polio vaccine......'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,959 Posted January 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: That's not what happened. The definition was changed to be more accurate. It had nothing to do with the covid vaccine being less than 100% effective. We have a history of vaccines that are not 100% effective. When was it changed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted January 14, 2022 Everybody knows about this crap by now after talking about it for 2 years. Let people make their own choices and move on. Fix the focking border. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: A vaccine was always meant to prevent disease and they always have. They may not be 100% but they did prevent diseases like they were designed to do. The covid vaccine is not preventing anything. Wrong. At the time the vaccines were introduced, they were very effective at preventing covid. We have several clinical trials and hoards of data that support that. What we've since since is that immunity is shorter lived than we originally thought, and the virus mutated to evade the vaccine. So now we're at the point were it probably prevents very little. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,446 Posted January 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Kopy said: You said it even better than I did. And I tried 10 times That's because you keep denying that it is a vaccine, and only a complete idiot would ever do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites