Ukraine - Doomsday

[fandandy 3,313]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0LAs7X5ybE

And so does reality.  Suck it up buttercups.

[Gepetto 1,382]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-zelenskyy-kyiv-business-1453669c4918e71051806e38f9d076c3

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Gepetto said:

Not really.  Ukraine won the battle of Ukraine and Russia fled.

Russia is not going anywhere. They are maneuvering. 

[fandandy 3,313]

One Jewish comedian dies and one leads us into war.  They are like roaches.

[Gepetto 1,382]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Russia is not going anywhere. They are maneuvering. 

I meant the battle of Kyiv.  Can you admit, they tried to take Kyiv and failed?

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Then they are genocidal. Just like the Hutus and Tutsis were. 

And Ukraine is getting destroyed. 

So did North Vietnam. Please bring intelligence and research to the table.

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I meant the battle of Kyiv.  Can you admit, they tried to take Kyiv and failed?

I can't. Because I don't know what the fock Russia is doing. All I'm saying is, Russia sucks and the Ukrainian leaders suck too. 

The people suffer. 

Fock. Good  time to attach the fock out of Russia.

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

So did North Vietnam. Please bring intelligence and research to the table.

What does N. Vietnam have to do with the demolished cities and all the dead people of Ukraine? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

22 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Not really.  Ukraine won the battle of Ukraine and Russia fled.

No they didn't. They moved forces.

 

[fandandy 3,313]

16 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I meant the battle of Kyiv.  Can you admit, they tried to take Kyiv and failed?

If they want a land bridge from point A to point B and they get it and they also want Ukraine to not even think about joining NATO and they get it.

Which part is the West winning again?

And...

their natural resources are now backed by gold and traded in rubles.

Just fill me in.  Which part thus far has Russia lost?

[Gepetto 1,382]

3 minutes ago, fandandy said:

If they want a land bridge from point A to point B and they get it and they also want Ukraine to not even think about joining NATO and they get it.

Which part is the West winning again?

And...

their natural resources are now backed by gold and traded in rubles.

Just fill me in.  Which part thus far has Russia lost?

Russia tried to take major cities and failed.  They tried to take Kyiv and to change the government of Ukraine and the Ukrainians kicked Russia's ass and the Russian Military (those that lived) left the areas surrounding Kyiv for Belarus and Russia.  Russia lost the battle of Kyiv.  It's a major battle.  The war is still going on.  Neither country has won or lost the war yet.

[fandandy 3,313]

Just now, Gepetto said:

Russia tried to take major cities and failed.  They tried to take Kyiv and to change the government of Ukraine and the Ukrainians kicked Russia's ass and the Russian Military (those that lived) left the areas surrounding Kyiv for Belarus and Russia.  Russia lost the battle of Kyiv.  It's a major battle.  The war is still going on.  Neither country has won or lost the war yet.

The intent from the very beginning according to Putin was what?

[Utilit99 4,099]

5 minutes ago, fandandy said:

The intent from the very beginning according to Putin was what?

Good question. Interested to see the answer. 

[fandandy 3,313]

Russia will end up with a land bridge on Ukraine's east to Crimea.  The final marcation line will be the Dnipro River, in time.

[fandandy 3,313]

It may be a few years but in time.

[Gepetto 1,382]

12 minutes ago, fandandy said:

The intent from the very beginning according to Putin was what?

de-militarize and de-nazify Ukraine 

your point?

We all could see from satellite images and from the videos what occurred around Kyiv in the first month of this war.  Don't deny it, it happened.

[Utilit99 4,099]

10 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

de-militarize and de-nazify Ukraine 

your point?

We all could see from satellite images and from the videos what occurred around Kyiv in the first month of this war.  Don't deny it, it happened.

Russia is winning. 

[Drizzay 725]

Putin looks like he has b!tch t!ts

[IGotWorms 4,060]

1 minute ago, Drizzay said:

Putin looks like he has b!tch t!ts

Supposedly he’s on cancer treating drugs and that’s why he’s all puffy looking now? I have no idea if that’s legit though

[nobody 2,706]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The Ukers have slaughtered 20,000 Russian soldiers and destroyed hundreds of tanks, jets, artillery pieces and other military equipment. 

How many Ukrainian soldiers and equipment have been lost?  

[Utilit99 4,099]

20 minutes ago, nobody said:

How many Ukrainian soldiers and equipment have been lost?  

A shiltload. Focking rusty is claiming victoty for war torn land because he loves liberals or something. 

Whatever. Ukraine is focked. 

[vomit 502]

6 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

 

Whatever. Ukraine is focked. 

Same thing the pro Russians were saying before the war too, when they were supposed to roll the country in a week.

Face it, your military is weak.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

7 hours ago, nobody said:

How many Ukrainian soldiers and equipment have been lost?  

the death crowd doesn't know nor care. Any  amount of Ukraine deaths is worth killing 20000 Russians in their eyes. 

[NorthernVike 2,087]

Russia will not be a "Super Power" after this is all done.    Their military is being exposed for what it is and its hardware is either being destroyed or shown not to work.  If it weren't for the nukes, they would be Iraq pre 1991.

[vomit 502]

8 minutes ago, NorthernVike said:

Russia will not be a "Super Power" after this is all done.    Their military is being exposed for what it is and its hardware is either being destroyed or shown not to work.  If it weren't for the nukes, they would be Iraq pre 1991.

I wonder if their nukes actually work.  I mean they haven't tested anything in over 30 years.  It's not out of the realm of possibility that it's all sh!t.  Ours too for that matter.

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 hours ago, vomit said:

Same thing the pro Russians were saying before the war too, when they were supposed to roll the country in a week.

Face it, your military is weak.

Says a peon 4700 miles from the battle.

[Voltaire 5,343]

7 minutes ago, vomit said:

I wonder if their nukes actually work.  I mean they haven't tested anything in over 30 years.  It's not out of the realm of possibility that it's all sh!t.  Ours too for that matter.

The US hasn't tested in thirty years either. Only India, Pakistan, North Korea and South Africa (cough Israel cough) have conducted nuclear tests in our lifetime. The Soviets were known to have tested not just nuclear but thermonuclear weapons. It's best to just assume they work.

[nobody 2,706]

I think the Ukraine lovers are getting a little caught up in the moment.  

I think most conflicts aren't necessarily executed perfectly.  Russia made some mistakes.  They underestimated Ukraine's ability and resolve, and they let corruption rot their military to an extent.

But the fact remains, even with sanctions, Russia has an endless supply of resources and they will learn from their mistakes and adapt.  The shift to focus on the east is going to make them virtually impossible to dig out of there.  They have fairly unfettered supply lines thanks to a russian friendly populace.  They have a river providing a natural barrier, and they just split the forces defending Mariupol, so they'll likely fall shortly.

I don't see a scenario where Ukraine retains the Donbas region.

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, nobody said:

I think the Ukraine lovers are getting a little caught up in the moment.  

I think most conflicts aren't necessarily executed perfectly.  Russia made some mistakes.  They underestimated Ukraine's ability and resolve, and they let corruption rot their military to an extent.

But the fact remains, even with sanctions, Russia has an endless supply of resources and they will learn from their mistakes and adapt.  The shift to focus on the east is going to make them virtually impossible to dig out of there.  They have fairly unfettered supply lines thanks to a russian friendly populace.  They have a river providing a natural barrier, and they just split the forces defending Mariupol, so they'll likely fall shortly.

I don't see a scenario where Ukraine retains the Donbas region.

Ukraine is done for. They fight hard but it's over. Just a matter of time and what Russia wants from them. 

[vomit 502]

5 minutes ago, nobody said:

I think the Ukraine lovers are getting a little caught up in the moment.  

I think most conflicts aren't necessarily executed perfectly.  Russia made some mistakes.  They underestimated Ukraine's ability and resolve, and they let corruption rot their military to an extent.

But the fact remains, even with sanctions, Russia has an endless supply of resources and they will learn from their mistakes and adapt.  The shift to focus on the east is going to make them virtually impossible to dig out of there.  They have fairly unfettered supply lines thanks to a russian friendly populace.  They have a river providing a natural barrier, and they just split the forces defending Mariupol, so they'll likely fall shortly.

I don't see a scenario where Ukraine retains the Donbas region.

I predict we get a cease fire where Russia keeps the east territories they really wanted, and of course Crimea, and Ukraine gets to survive with the rest.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Just now, vomit said:

I predict we get a cease fire where Russia keeps the east territories they really wanted, and of course Crimea, and Ukraine gets to survive with the rest.

Bold prediction.  2 weeks after the rest of us predicted it. 

[vomit 502]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

Bold prediction.  2 weeks after the rest of us predicted it. 

You mean all of you that said Russia would never invade?

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Bold prediction.  2 weeks after the rest of us predicted it. 

Yeah. I think I even said the same and I don't even pay attention to it. No one knows what Russia really wants out of this. 

But whatever it is, they will get it. Probably some key territory. With a lot of natural gas reserves.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

You mean all of you that said Russia would never invade?

If the invasion was such a sure thing then why wasn’t anything done? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

You mean all of you that said Russia would never invade?

Who said that? Once biden became president, it was a given. Just like when hussein was president. 

[vomit 502]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

If the invasion was such a sure thing then why wasn’t anything done? 

Because Biden is a puzzy.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

3 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Bold prediction.  2 weeks after the rest of us predicted it. 

This. And some of us said the Ukraine people would be dying for what was  already decided.   

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

If the invasion was such a sure thing then why wasn’t anything done? 

biden threatened to do things but said he wouldn't until Putin started the war. Then biden said, let's wait and see. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Russian ship fuxored.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/europe/russia-navy-cruiser-moskva-fire-abandoned-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chair of Russia's Security Council, warned in a statement Thursday Russia's military would “more than double” its forces in Russia’s Western flank should Sweden and Finland join NATO.

Ground- and air-defense forces would be beefed up, he wrote on Telegram, and Russia would deploy “significant naval forces” in the Gulf of Finland.

If Sweden and Finland join NATO, Medevedev added, “it will no longer be possible to talk about any non-nuclear status of the Baltic — the balance must be restored." 

Medvedev, who served as president of Russia from 2008 to 2012 in a four-year interregnum for Russia President Vladimir Putin's two-decade rule, has struck a bellicose pose in recent months, though he is not a top decision-maker.

 

What does the pro-Putin set have to say about this? Should NATO put its tail between its legs and slink away?