Ukraine - Doomsday

[wiffleball 4,788]

Just now, KSB2424 said:

I’m sold, we should War all the time.  Forget the death and destruction.  That stuff pays!

 

Hey man, any war that doesn't involve American bloodshed, gets other countries to finally step up after decades of ambivalence,and boosts our economy & employment   while effing over the bad guys? (See: Russia in Syria)

 

Yeah, all things considered? Works for me. 

[wiffleball 4,788]

By the way guys, and whatever q anon board you're following? And you'll find that it's well established and proven that out of frustration, Russian troll farms are bombarding America with isolationist messaging. They figure it's the only way they can try to get America to stop backing ukraine. 

 

So, read some of the posts in this thread and draw your own conclusions.

[Gepetto 1,291]

We think for ourselves. No propaganda needed; just intelligence and common sense.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,948]

2 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

By the way guys, and whatever q anon board you're following? And you'll find that it's well established and proven that out of frustration, Russian troll farms are bombarding America with isolationist messaging. They figure it's the only way they can try to get America to stop backing ukraine. 

 

So, read some of the posts in this thread and draw your own conclusions.

Yeah. Not caring about either of these countries is showing support. I DGAF when some warlords go at it in Africa either. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. Not caring about either of these countries is showing support. I DGAF when some warlords go at it in Africa either. 

War pays the bills, let’s go!

So said todays Democrat. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sure. Think I didn’t serve with any gay guys? I know you live in the boonies but gay people have been participating in the military and law enforcement forever. 

Not surprised you know where I live based on your relentless, obsessive creepy Internet stalking, but you can't take one Ukraine super model gay dude and extrapolate that into Ukrainians not wanting to fight. We've had cowards and deserters in our own military since our country's beginnings. Not sure what your point is here.

[wiffleball 4,788]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Not surprised you know where I live based on your relentless, obsessive creepy Internet stalking, but you can't take one Ukraine super model gay dude and extrapolate that into Ukrainians not wanting to fight. We've had cowards and deserters in our own military since our country's beginnings. Not sure what your point is here.

Yeah, but hardhead trapdoor only follows the one gay supermodel dude on Grinder. 

 

So, it's more personal for him.

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

Just now, wiffleball said:

Yeah, but hardhead trapdoor only follows the one gay supermodel dude on Grinder. 

 

So, it's more personal for him.

 

Good for him. 

[wiffleball 4,788]

4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Good for him. 

Nttawwt. 

 

As long as his ahole doesn't go AWOL on HT.

[seafoam1 2,803]

2 hours ago, wiffleball said:

But they're hugely passionate about two crooked countries beating hell out of each other in the middle east?

 

Gotcha. 

No. Pedocrats are. That's why the bidens of the world spend your tax dollars on it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,948]

13 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Nttawwt. 

 

As long as his ahole doesn't go AWOL on HT.

The last time you got laid Rusty was still working at the pennysaver and only had 10 aliases.  

[wiffleball 4,788]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The last time you got laid Rusty was still working at the pennysaver and only had 10 aliases.  

So you're saying you and the gay model had sex?  

 

Good for you pudding! 

[FrancieFootball 96]

If I were Ukrainian, my gay trans ass would be right there on the front line. I hate to see what's going on over there. Nations should not be invading other nations. Greed and power is all this is.

[seafoam1 2,803]

15 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

If I were Ukrainian, my gay trans ass would be right there on the front line. I hate to see what's going on over there. Nations should not be invading other nations. Greed and power is all this is.

You should go there. Anyone stopping you?

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[JustinCharge 2,397]

On 7/18/2023 at 7:14 PM, wiffleball said:

By the way guys, and whatever q anon board you're following? And you'll find that it's well established and proven that out of frustration, Russian troll farms are bombarding America with isolationist messaging. They figure it's the only way they can try to get America to stop backing ukraine. 

 

So, read some of the posts in this thread and draw your own conclusions.

Dude. America is the bad guy in this war. 

1.  We aided a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to install a pro-western Ukrainian government.
2.  This angers Putin because he doesnt want our crap on his doorstep.
3.  There is a bloody civil war because of our coup from 2014-2022 in Ukraine and do jack all.
4. Finally Putin invades to put it down and America falsely claims the invasion was unprovoked.

This thing is entirely Americas fault.   You can go FOCK yourself with your whitewashing of history.  We should impeach and remove Biden and extradite him to Russia for trial.  Not  our president.  Not our war.

[seafoam1 2,803]

Just now, JustinCharge said:

Dude. America is the bad guy in this war. 

1.  We aided a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to install a pro-western Ukrainian government.
2.  This angers Putin because he doesnt want our crap on his doorstep.
3.  There is a bloody civil war because of our coup from 2014-2022 in Ukraine and do jack all.
4. Finally Putin invades to put it down and America falsely claims the invasion was unprovoked.

This thing is entirely Americas fault.   You can go FOCK yourself with your whitewashing of history.

Yep.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Wiffeball and go pick up a Ukrainian flag, fly to Ukraine, pick up a gun and man a post on the front lines for his liberal elite masters like the traitorous scum he is.

[nobody 2,567]

What country is wiffleball betraying by having an opinion?

[seafoam1 2,803]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

What country is wiffleball betraying by having an opinion?

The US...

[seafoam1 2,803]

On 7/18/2023 at 10:59 PM, wiffleball said:

So you're saying you and the gay model had sex?  

 

Good for you pudding! 

Drunk much?

[seafoam1 2,803]

On 7/18/2023 at 10:51 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

The last time you got laid Rusty was still working at the pennysaver and only had 10 aliases.  

So, 1978. Ouch.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

I have to imagine Russia is going to execute a major attack on Kiev with ground troops pretty soon.  At a minimum, it would break the NATO narrative that Ukraine is winning.  Polling shows very few think Russia is winning.

[nobody 2,567]

You seem to be concerned that people think Ukraine is winning.  

There might be a perception that holding Russia to a stalemate is winning since that would be performing above expectation, but I don't think anyone really believes Ukraine is winning in the sense that they are driving Russia out of occupied territory.  

I get you love Russia, but that perceived narrative doesn't really matter.

[seafoam1 2,803]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

You seem to be concerned that people think Ukraine is winning.  

Their might be a perception that holding Russia to a stalemate is winning since that would be performing above expectation, but I don't think anyone really believes Ukraine is winning in the sense that they are driving Russia out of occupied territory.  

I get you love Russia, but that perceived narrative doesn't really matter.

I think maybe the lack of love for Ukraine by some like myself, is being mistakenly perceived as love for Russia. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

I see people flying the Ukrainan flag outside their homes around where I live. That just doesn't make sense. But they are also the same dopes that put black lives matter signs in their yards.

[nobody 2,567]

40 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

I think maybe the lack of love for Ukraine by some like myself, is being mistakenly perceived as love for Russia. 

It's obviously more than "lack of love". That implies ambivalence.

It's clear you would prefer to see Ukraine get run over because you perceive that Ukraine support is coming from the blue team and you want to stick it to them.

[seafoam1 2,803]

7 minutes ago, nobody said:

It's obviously more than "lack of love". That implies ambivalence.

It's clear you would prefer to see Ukraine get run over because you perceive that Ukraine support is coming from the blue team and you want to stick it to them.

No. I've been clear on this. I simply don't think the US should be sending 100s of billions to support a war in Europe. Especially between two such corrupt countries. Let the Europen countries decide how to handle it and fund it on their own.

And the liberals cried about cluster munitions being an evil weapon, but now the US is sending them to Ukraine. 

This country has enough problems that it doesn't need to be wasting time and money on that crap.

[nobody 2,567]

3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

No. I've been clear on this. I simply don't think the US should be sending 100s of billions to support a war in Europe. Especially between two such corrupt countries. Let the Europen countries decide how to handle it and fund it on their own.

And the liberals cried about cluster munitions being an evil weapon, but now the US is sending them to Ukraine. 

This country has enough problems that it doesn't need to be wasting time and money on that crap.

Yes, that's what you said.  

But it's also very clear you want Ukraine to lose.  You and Justin think if Ukraine is successful that's a win for Biden.  And you can't have that.

[seafoam1 2,803]

40 minutes ago, nobody said:

Yes, that's what you said.  

But it's also very clear you want Ukraine to lose.  You and Justin think if Ukraine is successful that's a win for Biden.  And you can't have that.

I don't really care what happens. But what happens if the war goes on for anothrr year or two and they win. How much aid will the Americans being sending their way? Another 100 billion? 200 billion? 

I hope whatever happens the US stops sending them money.

[nobody 2,567]

Well if Ukraine comes out of this as a sovereign country, that will likely be a huge windfall for the Biden family.  

That's got to be an incentive to spend 100s of billions, right?

[League Champion 1,896]

19 minutes ago, nobody said:

Well if Ukraine comes out of this as a sovereign country, that will likely be a huge windfall for the Biden family.  

That's got to be an incentive to spend 100s of billions, right?

$$$$ is the ONLY incentive.

[seafoam1 2,803]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

Well if Ukraine comes out of this as a sovereign country, that will likely be a huge windfall for the Biden family.  

That's got to be an incentive to spend 100s of billions, right?

Desperate move for a desperate party.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

10 hours ago, nobody said:

Yes, that's what you said.  

But it's also very clear you want Ukraine to lose.  You and Justin think if Ukraine is successful that's a win for Biden.  And you can't have that.

its an ideological war.  russia is fighting against multilation of children and for basic human rights.  the democrats are vile evil creatures that just want to dominate the world with an iron fist.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

2 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

its an ideological war.  russia is fighting against multilation of children and for basic human rights.  the democrats are vile evil creatures that just want to dominate the world with an iron fist.

So Russia's intent here is to save the world from child mutilation, even though its leaders don't give a rat's ass how many of their own men die in the futile war that has nothing to do with child mutilation.

You're a special kind of insanity, shielded by the comfort of your mom's tinfoil-lined basement..

[JustinCharge 2,397]

hahahahahah

after over a month and a half after the "Ukrainian Counteroffensive" began and the front not moving at all, the lying, leftist, Biden-supporting MSM actually came out today and said progress has been "slow" and then started lining up a litany of excuses.  Now suddenly, Russia has a much bigger army.  Now suddenly, Russia is isolated on the world stage and that is an advantage because its not beholden to other nations to support the war.  Where was the "unbiased" MSM when it should have been doing its job and repeatedly trumpeting these concerns for months leading up to the counteroffensive instead of now after the fact when weve poured billions more into this mess?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/is-the-ukrainian-counteroffensive-faltering-092519216.html

“We are getting ready for the counteroffensive, so that we can finally end this war,” one Ukrainian soldier said in late May. The counteroffensive began about three weeks later, with Ukraine making initial gains in Donetsk and Luhansk, two regions in eastern Ukraine that were illegally annexed by Russia last year.

Since then, however, the pace of progress has slowed considerably, leading to some frustration from Ukraine’s backers in the West, who hoped that the heavy weaponry and training they had provided would drive the Russian occupiers out of the country’s southeastern provinces.

So far, however, Russia’s defensive positions appear to be holding — while questions about the future of the conflict are growing.

“This is a very difficult fight, it is a very violent fight and it will likely take a considerable amount of time and at high cost,” Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, conceded after meeting U.S. allies in Belgium.

Ukraine unquestionably had the more difficult task in having to launch an offensive. As the much bigger occupying army, Russia always had time on its side. And with few allies to begin with, Russia is not beholden to donor nations eager to see progress.

 

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

hearing rumors tonite that the Ukraine front is breaking down bigly in 1 or 2 areas.  Somewhere east of Izium and possibly the northern front as well.  I cannot confirm it but by the time we really know anything Russia could have totally collapsed half the front in the war.  Ukraine has had major supply lines cut now for about a week after Russia bombed Odessa into oblivion so it would make sense that Ukraine's front is about to crack.  With any luck, Russia could be surrounding Kiev soon and the war will be over.

The next phase would be for Russia to invade Poland en route to wiping out Europe and its commie-loving children-mutilating leadership.  

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2 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

The next phase would be for Russia to invade Poland en route to wiping out Europe and its commie-loving children-mutilating leadership.  

I thought Poland was - more-or-less - on the side of Russia ... Maybe I'm confusing Poland with Hungary ...