Hardcore troubadour 15,525 Posted December 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: You are just being dopey at this point to try to distract from you being a massive piece of garbage. Here I am, saving people from harm and you talk to me like that. For shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,997 Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I havent read all the tweets, just reported what I heard doxxing can be treated as accessory to a crime his family was threatened he has received numerous death threats, more than probably any left winger, but you guys are ok with his family being threatened Drew Harwell - didn’t technically post a link, but did post a screenshot but I’ll give Elon the benefit of the doubt here. Well I guess he technically linked to the twitter account which was already suspended, not sure if that counts too. Violation Aaron Rupar - posted a link to the Fb page. Violation Tony Webster - allegedly posted the link. Violation Olbermann - posted the link. Violation Micah Flee - kinda posted the link. Violation Donie O’Sullivan - as mentioned, only see that he linked to an article about the situation Matt Binder - don’t see evidence he linked to anything, just this: Ryan Mac - don’t see evidence he linked to anything, do see some specifically claiming that he didn’t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,525 Posted December 16, 2022 WTF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,997 Posted December 16, 2022 Looks like he might give in to unsuspending them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,202 Posted December 16, 2022 maybe elon should post 24/7 the real-time locations of where those journalists are too and see how they like it? This is not a free speech issue. It's a liberal POS whiney bastard issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: maybe elon should post 24/7 the real-time locations of where those journalists are too and see how they like it? This is not a free speech issue. It's a liberal POS whiney bastard issue. Musk said it's a free speech issue, said he wouldn't ban the jet account because he believes in free speech. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 Musk is raging. This is like a digby meltdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 I also learned that his son is named X Æ A-Xii what a douche Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,272 Posted December 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Musk is raging. This is like a digby meltdown It is curious. I honestly do hope he is only doing it to make a point, and show them what was being done. So as to allow them time and space to complain as others did when it was working the other way......but I am not sure that is the way to go on this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,525 Posted December 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Musk is raging. This is like a digby meltdown Musk! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 16, 2022 PLEASE CALL ELON A HYPOCRITE SO I CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT Elon buying Twitter is the gift that keeps on giving. This is reaching TDS levels of consumed. How the fock do you people do this all day long and into the night? Do you have families? Do you work? Sweetheart, don't bother your Dad tonight, he's on the internet again owning strangers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted December 16, 2022 Why would you track and post someone’s flight information in the first place? I can only think of very nefarious reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,525 Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, KSB2424 said: Why would you track and post someone’s flight information in the first place? And why would anyone defend someone doing it? It’s like the tranny/kid stuff. No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, KSB2424 said: Why would you track and post someone’s flight information in the first place? I can only think of very nefarious reasons. Seriously? You think the guy was tweeting out the flight plans in hopes that someone would grab a stinger missile and shoot down Musk's plane? You don't think the more believable reason is that they guy is just a d1ck and wants to piss off the richest man in the world to prove a point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,272 Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, KSB2424 said: Why would you track and post someone’s flight information in the first place? I can only think of very nefarious reasons. To catch them being a hypocrit. Project Veritas is notable for using this tactic, and it is rather effective....so much so that they are reviled by the leftists, and the Dems send their DOJ brown shirts after them too..... The powerful want to present you one image, while the reality is another, this is how you show it....to their dismay..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,895 Posted December 16, 2022 I'm kinda glad I was busy yesterday and missed all of Tim's centrist takes on this; it was easier to read in one sad lump. I have learned however that if a man acts to protect his family before instituting a corporate-wide policy, he is a hypocrite. So that's good to know, I think. I wonder if Saint Obama the Only was a hypocrite for thinking marriage was between a man or a woman, or not closing Gitmo. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,997 Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, KSB2424 said: Why would you track and post someone’s flight information in the first place? I can only think of very nefarious reasons. 42 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Seriously? You think the guy was tweeting out the flight plans in hopes that someone would grab a stinger missile and shoot down Musk's plane? You don't think the more believable reason is that they guy is just a d1ck and wants to piss off the richest man in the world to prove a point? There are certainly non-nefarious reasons, such as trying to get a selfie or something. I believe people have also used the data to point out the gas usage or something considering he owns an electric car company, which of course isn’t flattering for Musk but isn’t really “nefarious.” And Sweeney was (past tense I assume) a fan of Musk’s. He had countered Musk’s initial offer of $5k to shut down the account with $50k, saying maybe he’d buy a Tesla with it and that he hoped to work for one of Musk’s companies in the future. https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/elon-musk-offered-teen-5k-to-stop-tracking-his-jet-on-twitter/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I have learned however that if a man acts to protect his family before instituting a corporate-wide policy, he is a hypocrite. So that's good to know, I think. What does this mean? Musk's family was in danger for having the location of his jet tweeted? Is his family safe now considering that the location of his jet is still publicly available elsewhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,997 Posted December 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I'm kinda glad I was busy yesterday and missed all of Tim's centrist takes on this; it was easier to read in one sad lump. I have learned however that if a man acts to protect his family before instituting a corporate-wide policy, he is a hypocrite. So that's good to know, I think. I wonder if Saint Obama the Only was a hypocrite for thinking marriage was between a man or a woman, or not closing Gitmo. Pointing out that someone specifically said they wouldn’t do something (in spite of the acknowledged security risk), but does it anyway is a hypocrite, is absolutely a centrist take. I’m sorry you all can’t see that through your red glasses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Pointing out that someone specifically said they wouldn’t do something (in spite of the acknowledged security risk), but does it anyway is a hypocrite, is absolutely a centrist take. I’m sorry you all can’t see that through your red glasses. Cultists will do anything to defend their side. It's so sad. Any honest, rational person can see that Musk is being a douche. It's OK to admit it guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,272 Posted December 16, 2022 Hold on, is it the policy of twitter to punish those who publish the locations of account-holders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Hold on, is it the policy of twitter to punish those who publish the locations of account-holders? It is now, yes. So I guess that means if I tweet out that I saw you at CVS today, then I get banned? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,706 Posted December 16, 2022 Musk certainly is a douche. I get it's stalkerish and creepy, but who cares if someone tracks his plane on Twitter. People who are motivated to do him or his family harm would be able to readily find that info elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,997 Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: Hold on, is it the policy of twitter to punish those who publish the locations of account-holders? As of 2 days ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,272 Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: It is now, yes. So I guess that means if I tweet out that I saw you at CVS today, then I get banned? I need to think about this one. I might be able to get behind this. Notably if one is a prominent person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,320 Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, KSB2424 said: Why would you track and post someone’s flight information in the first place? I can only think of very nefarious reasons. Ask that question the next time someone posts so and so took a private plane to a climate conference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,895 Posted December 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: What does this mean? Musk's family was in danger for having the location of his jet tweeted? Is his family safe now considering that the location of his jet is still publicly available elsewhere? Tim pointed out that Elon banned the elonjet tracker the same day as instituting the policy and banning the others, but he banned his first, so he is a HIPPOCRITTTT%$#@! 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Pointing out that someone specifically said they wouldn’t do something (in spite of the acknowledged security risk), but does it anyway is a hypocrite, is absolutely a centrist take. I’m sorry you all can’t see that through your red glasses. Or, something happened which endangered his kid, and his new life experience caused him to change his mind. What my red glasses see is you being roughly, hmm, carry the one... 100% looking for big gotchas with Musk since he bought Twitter. Plus or minus 0.0%. Centrist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,374 Posted December 16, 2022 hacked information, Musk still allowed it, then his family was threatened, even the Sullivan dude has admitted he lied now another win for Musk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Tim pointed out that Elon banned the elonjet tracker the same day as instituting the policy and banning the others, but he banned his first, so he is a HIPPOCRITTTT%$#@! Or, something happened which endangered his kid, and his new life experience caused him to change his mind. What my red glasses see is you being roughly, hmm, carry the one... 100% looking for big gotchas with Musk since he bought Twitter. Plus or minus 0.0%. Centrist. Dude, he's a hypocrite because he said that he believes in free speech and would never ban the elonjet account, then he banned it, and he banned a bunch of journalists for commenting on the banning. Also, new life experience? Dude's got 10 kids. The location of his private jet has been known forever, but someone tweets it and now he's scared? Come on man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: hacked information, Musk still allowed it, then his family was threatened, even the Sullivan dude has admitted he lied now another win for Musk What was hacked? Who threatened his family? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,374 Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: What was hacked? Who threatened his family? the jet information Musk had a PIA, meaning his information was blocked, it was hacked and the real time tracking was posted Musk allowed it, then his family was threatened and he decided to block all doxing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,997 Posted December 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Tim pointed out that Elon banned the elonjet tracker the same day as instituting the policy and banning the others, but he banned his first, so he is a HIPPOCRITTTT%$#@! Or, something happened which endangered his kid, and his new life experience caused him to change his mind. What my red glasses see is you being roughly, hmm, carry the one... 100% looking for big gotchas with Musk since he bought Twitter. Plus or minus 0.0%. Centrist. I’m not looking for them, but he’s just offering them up constantly. I’ll put the most hypocritical aspects of this story in order of how hypocritical I think they are: 1. Specifically saying he wasn’t going to do something (and acknowledging the security risk), but doing it anyway. 2. Saying he wants twitter to allow all “legal free speech” but then creating a policy that bans speech protected by the first amendment. 3. Banning the elonjets account, then updating the policy after the fact, despite the account not having tweeted anything since the policy update was made. Banning the other accounts later is a minor tangential point to that, that was never my focus other than in proving that idiot @Strike wrong. I honestly don’t have an issue with the journalists being suspended (although a permaban would certainly seem harsh IMO) if they posted the link to the elonjet account on other platforms, after the policy was changed. But I’d like to see it confirmed they all did that and not just link to a news article. I’ll watch the Timcast video 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: the jet information Musk had a PIA, meaning his information was blocked, it was hacked and the real time tracking was posted Musk allowed it, then his family was threatened and he decided to block all doxing No, you have the wrong information. His Gulfstream jet, registered through an LLC he owns, could be seen having landed on Wednesday evening in Austin through an online tracker, ADS-B Exchange. On Thursday, it took off again in the afternoon local time heading northwest. ADS-B is accessible to anyone online. The site makes use of flight information transmitted by federal law to show thousands of commercial and private aircraft flights all over the world. While Musk has recently begun to claim such tracking poses a security risk, ADS-B addresses that stance on its website. "If aircraft do not want to be seen, (such as military aircraft on a mission) they can always turn their transponders 'off,'" the site says. "The position data shown by ADSBexchange is available to anyone who can spend $50 on Amazon and put the parts together. It's not secret. Air Traffic Control voice comms are not encrypted either, and contain similar (or more) information." https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-private-jet-no-longer-appearing-on-public-tracking-2022-12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 Also there is now a subreddit to track the jet https://www.reddit.com/r/ElonJetTracker/ Maybe the lil baby is gonna buy reddit and ban it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,374 Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: No, you have the wrong information. His Gulfstream jet, registered through an LLC he owns, could be seen having landed on Wednesday evening in Austin through an online tracker, ADS-B Exchange. On Thursday, it took off again in the afternoon local time heading northwest. ADS-B is accessible to anyone online. The site makes use of flight information transmitted by federal law to show thousands of commercial and private aircraft flights all over the world. While Musk has recently begun to claim such tracking poses a security risk, ADS-B addresses that stance on its website. "If aircraft do not want to be seen, (such as military aircraft on a mission) they can always turn their transponders 'off,'" the site says. "The position data shown by ADSBexchange is available to anyone who can spend $50 on Amazon and put the parts together. It's not secret. Air Traffic Control voice comms are not encrypted either, and contain similar (or more) information." https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-private-jet-no-longer-appearing-on-public-tracking-2022-12 I would say watch the video I posted, which I know you wont. It explains it better than I could also it goes over a lot more than just the jet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I would say watch the video I posted, which I know you wont. It explains it better than I could Correct, I'm not watching a 22 minute of a guy known for spreading misinformation when I have the correct factual information in front of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,374 Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, Shooter McGavin said: Correct, I'm not watching a 22 minute of a guy known for spreading misinformation when I have the correct factual information in front of me. right, hand fed info from media who hates musk, got it let me know what misinformation Tim has spread mr CNN hack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,685 Posted December 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: 3. Banning the elonjets account, then updating the policy after the fact, despite the account not having tweeted anything since the policy update was made. Banning the other accounts later is a minor tangential point to that, that was never my focus other than in proving that idiot @Strike wrong. Musk banned all those accounts. Not sure how you proved me wrong about anything. Of course, you never have proven me wrong about anything so your track record is intact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,997 Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Strike said: Musk banned all those accounts. Not sure how you proved me wrong about anything. Of course, you never have proven me wrong about anything so your track record is intact. Dude, I said that he banned those accounts. But he banned elonjets first, then changed the policy, then banned the others. I have you admitting you were wrong to me at least once, and several other times that you won’t admit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites