PA conservative group wants to put spies in schools

[Hawkeye21 2,454]

Just now, vomit said:

exactly, they are brainwashed.  It's a real problem that's gotten so bad in the past 10 years, and will only continue to get worse.  And it's both sides, there are some really focked up people on the left too, just not any of them here.  It's a societal problem.

You were included in my post.  Relax a bit.  Every thread here seems to turn into personal attacks and it's always the same handful of posters.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

23 minutes ago, vomit said:

It all stems from the theory that started on 8chan in 2017 about how there is a global pedo ring and Trump was sent by the flying spaghetti monster to rid the world of baby eating devils.

There are some good podcasts out there that really dive into all this.  It's fascinating.

 No it doesn’t. I know that’s what you want it to be, but it isn’t. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

24 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I've seen your version of morality an lack of concern for basic issues. It is an issue where we have very little in common. 

Don’t worry about them. As usual they can foot stomp and whine, but the sea change is underway. It’s not as out of control as we may think,  but the issues in schools are significant enough to put and end to them before they do get out of control, like the have done with discipline, which is pretty much non existent at this point. They’re our schools, not the democrats or the teachers.  Ours. School boards are being rid of the Vomits of the world, and its a good thing. And the Hawkeyes have to go too. They’re next. 

[Cloaca du jour 2,157]

Local high school next town over...many threesomes have been had under the stage in the auditorium the school just covers it up.  One mom was blowing all of her sons coaches to get him playing time...in the parking lot lol.  Reminds me of forrest gumps mom.  It is a rural school..everything is covered up.

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37 minutes ago, MDC said:

Ironical that Trumpers voted for a guy who has numerous assault allegations against him, palled around with Epstein and campaigned for known baby diddler Roy Moore.

But now they seem groomers and pedos everywhere.  

You have to be reminded that you're Pedo Defender II?  Or was that Worms?  No surprise that you and vomit are on the same side here.  You forgot to mention that the assault allegations against Trump were fabricated, if he palled around with Epstein there's no record of him going to pedo island and he at some point kicked Epstein out of his club and "baby diddler" is an intentional exaggeration against Moore, but more to the point, you act like Trump was there all along with Moore or something.  Yet, when we are shown tiktok videos of phaggot leftist teachers bragging about how they're indoctrinating kids, not a peep out of you.  I wonder why?

[TBayXXXVII 2,669]

36 minutes ago, vomit said:

How have you heard otherwise?  From this board?  From a website pushing an agenda?  Please share why you would say that we have a national crisis of teachers grooming kids to be transexual.

Any "lack of concern" you may perceive is through your own lens.  I have kids and am extremely concerned about protecting them against abuse.  I am also a well educated, rational person, so what you perceive as "lack of concern" is just pragmatism from someone who knows more than you.

Just a couple questions...

1)  Do you think this issue would ever be a concern?

2)  If yes, at what point would you say they've crossed the line

3)  To wit, from what website would you expect to see this at?

[Hawkeye21 2,454]

9 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Local high school next town over...many threesomes have been had under the stage in the auditorium the school just covers it up.  One mom was blowing all of her sons coaches to get him playing time...in the parking lot lol.  Reminds me of forrest gumps mom.  It is a rural school..everything is covered up.

Are stories like that exclusively a recent thing because I have heard stories like that from people that happened over 30 years ago.  Doesn't make it right but that crap has been happening for a very long time.  Just look at the movies we use to have like Porky's.  Can't make a movie like that now days.

[Voltaire 5,485]

30 minutes ago, vomit said:

So you're saying that people that identify as LGBTQ are all groomers and pedos?

People that identify as LGBTQ are immoral and mentally disturbed?  That's quite the judgement there.  That's looking at it from a strict religious sense, right?

And then you're making the conclusion that the only way to be LGBTQ is to be taught that way, right?  Saying they aren't getting to your kids.  So you're dismissing any biological aspect, and assuming that your kids are already not gay.

This is quite the prejudice you have against gay people, and exactly why so many of these people have denied/hid themselves from people like you.

"All" is a very general term. My sense is there's a far greater propensity for grooming in the LGBTQ community which is the only explanation I can come up with for why the case totals are skyrocketing. Also, one of the few gay people I've had the stomach to listen to on this issue mentions how he had been groomed and how quietly common and accepted grooming is in the gay community. It's why I will highly prioritize avoiding any LGBTQ community wherever I relocate to.

There is no known biological connection to gender confusion and gayness. Exposure/proximity is the major factor. And we've moved way beyond tolerance to engage in active promotion at this point.. The best way to prevent it is to avoid it.

Finally, its not for religious views as I'm an atheist. although I do appreciate the teachings of the traditional churches on morality. . The two can be separate. Look at this otherwise stupid country (China). It is actually an example of being good on LGBTQ issues while being secular with traces of Confucianism otherwise.

 

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5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Just a couple questions...

1)  Do you think this issue would ever be a concern?

2)  If yes, at what point would you say they've crossed the line

3)  To wit, from what website would you expect to see this at?

1) Yes

2) Everyone has a different line.  Are you asking me what my line is?

3) See what, examples of inappropriate behavior?  I would expect to hear about it locally, or see examples from locals, local news, etc.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

School boards are being taken back by normal people, not the ones who would cover up the rape of a child for ideological reasons. Keep your shitty schools in the city and do what you want with them. Those kids are hopeless for the most part anyway. You liberals should have left the normal men and women alone. And it’s just a matter of time before the inner city blacks and Latinos kick you out as well. They’re more homophobic than anyone. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

School boards are being taken back by normal people, not the ones who would cover up the rape of a child for ideological reasons. Keep your shitty schools in the city and do what you want with them. Those kids are hopeless for the most part anyway. You liberals should have left the normal men and women alone. And tie just a matter of time before the inner city blacks and Latinos kick you out as well. 

So its a race thing?  What do you call "normal men and women"?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

So its a race thing?  What do you call "normal men and women"?

Conservatives. They come in all colors. If you’re still a democrat at this point you’re  an enabler at least. Time to pick a side. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Conservatives. They come in all colors. 

How do you define a conservative?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

2 minutes ago, vomit said:

So its a race thing?  What do you call "normal men and women"?

My mention of race had to do with blacks and Latinos being much more homophobic than whites. If you think that’s racist then you don’t know anything about those communities.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

How do you define a conservative?

One who rejects todays Democratic Party and liberals. If you haven’t moved on then you’re ok with what they do and stand for. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

My mention of race had to do with blacks and Latinos being much more homophobic than whites. If you think that’s racist then you don’t know anything about those communities.  

I agree with you on the blacks but I haven't been around latinos much.  I had a friend who was black and came out as gay at 25, because if he did any earlier he probably would have been beaten to death by his community.

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

One who rejects todays Democratic Party and liberals. If you haven’t moved on then you’re ok with what they do and stand for. 

Does it have to be everything that the democratic party stands for?  There are some things here that I agree with https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/  There is much that I don't agree with.  I call myself a conservative but you call me a liberal.  I'm trying to figure out if I'm normal or not.  You're good at labeling people, what say you?

[Voltaire 5,485]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

School boards are being taken back by normal people, not the ones who would cover up the rape of a child for ideological reasons. Keep your shitty schools in the city and do what you want with them. Those kids are hopeless for the most part anyway. You liberals should have left the normal men and women alone. And it’s just a matter of time before the inner city blacks and Latinos kick you out as well. They’re more homophobic than anyone. 

Let's hope so. I'll feel a lot better when the results start snowballing.

[Hawkeye21 2,454]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

School boards are being taken back by normal people, not the ones who would cover up the rape of a child for ideological reasons. Keep your shitty schools in the city and do what you want with them. Those kids are hopeless for the most part anyway. You liberals should have left the normal men and women alone. And it’s just a matter of time before the inner city blacks and Latinos kick you out as well. They’re more homophobic than anyone. 

Do you consider yourself "normal?"

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

Does it have to be everything that the democratic party stands for?  There are some things here that I agree with https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/  There is much that I don't agree with.  I call myself a conservative but you call me a liberal.  I'm trying to figure out if I'm normal or not.  You're good at labeling people, what say you?

The time for nuance has passed us by. Maybe we can get back there someday, where you can agree or disagree with parts of a parties platform. Right now the Democratic Party has to take a severe beating over the next two major elections so they will wake the Fock up and stop with the far left garbage. Look at Biden, a moderate who is governing like a far left ideologue. We need moderates who govern like one. They need to be slapped back to reality. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Let's hope so. I'll feel a lot better when the results start snowballing.

I don’t live in a deep red area, it’s pretty much 50-50 on the whole. The people running for school board except for one far left teacher from another district are making no bones what they are about. They even mention, wait for it, god in their campaign literature. 

[Fireballer 2,677]

1 hour ago, vomit said:

Can you share this info?

First of all, yes, the California Teachers Assoc supports legislation that would either allow kids to leave school to get puberty blockers or have puberty blockers available to students at school.  All without parental knowledge. 

Also, the CTA held a training conference last year where they taught teachers "How to run a GSA(gay/straight alliance) in a conservative community".  They taught them creative names for these clubs or to hold these meetings during lunch so no parental permission was needed. All this was so it did not attract parental attention.  In addition, they taught that "stalking" students Google searches for LGBTQA+ content was a good way to recruit students.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

First of all, yes, the California Teachers Assoc supports legislation that would either allow kids to leave school to get puberty blockers or have puberty blockers available to students at school.  All without parental knowledge. 

Also, the CTA held a training conference last year where they taught teachers "How to run a GSA(gay/straight alliance) in a conservative community".  They taught them creative names for these clubs or to hold these meetings during lunch so no parental permission was needed. All this was so it did not attract parental attention.  In addition, they taught that "stalking" students Google searches for LGBTQA+ content was a good way to recruit students.  

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11 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

First of all, yes, the California Teachers Assoc supports legislation that would either allow kids to leave school to get puberty blockers or have puberty blockers available to students at school.  All without parental knowledge. 

Also, the CTA held a training conference last year where they taught teachers "How to run a GSA(gay/straight alliance) in a conservative community".  They taught them creative names for these clubs or to hold these meetings during lunch so no parental permission was needed. All this was so it did not attract parental attention.  In addition, they taught that "stalking" students Google searches for LGBTQA+ content was a good way to recruit students.  

Not trying to impugn you on this, but do you have some source from which this information is arising?

[TBayXXXVII 2,669]

25 minutes ago, vomit said:

1) Yes

2) Everyone has a different line.  Are you asking me what my line is?

3) See what, examples of inappropriate behavior?  I would expect to hear about it locally, or see examples from locals, local news, etc.

2) Well yeah, I said "at what point would you say they've crossed the line".

3) You said "How have you heard otherwise?  From this board?  From a website pushing an agenda?"  My question was, if you felt they crossed the line, from what outlet would you expect to see that evidence?  Now, by you saying that you'd hear it locally, are you saying that only your school district matters and if it's happening everywhere else, it's irrelevant?  If your local news is (which I assume it is), ABC, NBC, CBS, & FOX, do you really expect to see it on there... other than FOX?

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8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

2) Well yeah, I said "at what point would you say they've crossed the line".

3) You said "How have you heard otherwise?  From this board?  From a website pushing an agenda?"  My question was, if you felt they crossed the line, from what outlet would you expect to see that evidence?  Now, by you saying that you'd hear it locally, are you saying that only your school district matters and if it's happening everywhere else, it's irrelevant?  If your local news is (which I assume it is), ABC, NBC, CBS, & FOX, do you really expect to see it on there... other than FOX?

2) I don't think teachers should be talking about sex with any kids outside of the approved sex ed curriculum.  As far as what is an approved curriculum, I don't think k-3 is appropriate for anything, maybe some small stuff after that.

3) I really only care about about locally.  If a bunch of insane people in CA do something insane, it doesn't affect me.  I feel for anyone impacted of course, but I dont have the capacity to worry about everyone in the world, my focus is on my family, my community and then the greater world.

[TBayXXXVII 2,669]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

My mention of race had to do with blacks and Latinos being much more homophobic than whites. If you think that’s racist then you don’t know anything about those communities.  

Specifically with respect to Latinos, I don't think they're more homophobic than whites.  I'd say they're around the same.  Black folks, I agree with you.  They are definitely the most homophobic of all races.

[TBayXXXVII 2,669]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

2) I don't think teachers should be talking about sex with any kids outside of the approved sex ed curriculum.  As far as what is an approved curriculum, I don't think k-3 is appropriate for anything, maybe some small stuff after that.

3) I really only care about about locally.  If a bunch of insane people in CA do something insane, it doesn't affect me.  I feel for anyone impacted of course, but I dont have the capacity to worry about everyone in the world, my focus is on my family, my community and then the greater world.

Ok, so then why in the world are you even arguing with people in this thread?  You agree with them.  The only difference is that they care about the issue on a national level, not just local like you.  You are very narrow minded and your villainizing people who are more nationally focused.

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15 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Ok, so then why in the world are you even arguing with people in this thread?  You agree with them.  The only difference is that they care about the issue on a national level, not just local like you.  You are very narrow minded and your villainizing people who are more nationally focused.

No, it's quite the opposite.  I get called a liberal, pedo, groomer, simply because I'm trying to be rational about this stuff.  That's the narrow mindedness.  The prevailing groupthink here is that "All teachers are grooming every kid to be gay or trans so they can have sex with them, and if you disagree then you are one of them".  That is nuts.

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3 minutes ago, vomit said:

No, it's quite the opposite.  I get called a liberal, pedo, groomer, simply because I'm trying to be rational about this stuff.  That's the narrow mindedness.  The prevailing groupthink here is that "All teachers are grooming every kid to be gay or trans so they can have sex with them, and if you disagree then you are one of them".  That is nuts.

No one thinks all teachers are doing this. What a Mary. Stop with the hype. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

No one thinks all teachers are doing this. What a Mary. Stop with the hype. 

What percentage do you think?  Voltaire said we have a national crisis

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

What percentage do you think?  Voltaire said we have a national crisis

A high enough percentage to be concerned about. There are more bullets than bombs. But bombs cause the most damage. Get it? So the percentage is a silly way of looking at it. When it does happen it’s devastating. 

[Sean Mooney 2,049]

Outside of whatever personal feelings you have on this stuff....put aside your own ideological beliefs as well-

 

Do you honestly not see potential issues with putting people in schools to explicitly spy on people? Do you honestly not see how that would violate privacy and trust of kids and parents who have no strong feelings any one way on any of this? Do you honestly not see how this would put good teachers who don't do this stuff under unfair working conditions? Do you honestly not see how putting people- who are untrained in how to deal with issues in school, and might be potentially irrationally ideologically driven into schools?

[TBayXXXVII 2,669]

12 minutes ago, vomit said:

What percentage do you think?  Voltaire said we have a national crisis

A substantially higher number than the amount of cops killing unarmed black men... which apparently is a national issue requiring a massive overhaul of the justice system.

[TBayXXXVII 2,669]

10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Outside of whatever personal feelings you have on this stuff....put aside your own ideological beliefs as well-

 

Do you honestly not see potential issues with putting people in schools to explicitly spy on people? Do you honestly not see how that would violate privacy and trust of kids and parents who have no strong feelings any one way on any of this? Do you honestly not see how this would put good teachers who don't do this stuff under unfair working conditions? Do you honestly not see how putting people- who are untrained in how to deal with issues in school, and might be potentially irrationally ideologically driven into schools?

In a vacuum?  Yes.  At this point to which society has gone?  No.

[Hawkeye21 2,454]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

A substantially higher number than the amount of cops killing unarmed black men... which apparently is a national issue requiring a massive overhaul of the justice system.

Based on what data?

[Voltaire 5,485]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Based on what data?

The police unions hold training sessions to root out abuse and to combat racial animus and the number of cops who brag about abusing suspects on tiktok is ~zero. Meanwhile the NEA and AFT both support LGBTQ indoctirnation, and Critical Racde Theory and the number of teachers who brag about teaching it on TikTok is staggering.

[Hawkeye21 2,454]

Just now, Voltaire said:

The police unions hold training sessions to root out abuse and to combat racial animus and the number of cops who brag about abusing suspects on tiktok is ~zero. Meanwhile the NEA and AFT both support LGBTQ indoctirnation, and Critical Racde Theory and the number of teachers who brag about teaching it on TikTok is staggering.

So... No data.  I have yet to see how many teachers are grooming students in the nation.  I'm just looking for something factual and not people on TikTok.

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5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

So... No data.  I have yet to see how many teachers are grooming students in the nation.  I'm just looking for something factual and not people on TikTok.

Judging teachers and making assumptions of them based off of a few idiots on TikTok is akin to people who say all cops are bad because a few are.

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