RLLD 4,256 Posted February 3, 2023 Disney Board Urges Shareholders to Ignore Activist Investor I have done some research, admittedly not enough....but I am rather tired this week.... I cannot yet determine what the "activism" at play here might be. My initial thought is that could this be Disney reacting to the negative outcomes from activism and is now trying to shield itself from the consequences of "woke"? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 59 Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Disney Board Urges Shareholders to Ignore Activist Investor I have done some research, admittedly not enough....but I am rather tired this week.... I cannot yet determine what the "activism" at play here might be. My initial thought is that could this be Disney reacting to the negative outcomes from activism and is now trying to shield itself from the consequences of "woke"?  An "Activist Investor" is not the same as "Activism" in a political sense. It just means an investor that wants to make changes in the company which it invests, think Active vs Passive. So this investment firm Trian is looking to change the operations for Disney. There is nothing about being "woke according to Trian's public statements. Everything they talk about is operating decisions, increasing shareholder value. Absolutely nothing about being woke, gay, movies not in Chinese theaters, or any of the other BS that gets thrown around here. Here is a good link: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230111005991/en/Trian-Nominates-Nelson-Peltz-for-Election-to-Disney-Board Upon attaining Board representation, Trian will look to work collaboratively with Disney’s leadership to: FIX Corporate Governance Develop an effective succession plan Align compensation with performance FIX Strategy & Operations Improve DTC operating margins Eliminate redundant and/or excessive costs Refocus the creative engine to drive profitable growth FIX Capital Allocation Enhance accountability on capital allocation Reinstate the dividend by FY 2025 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,256 Posted February 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said: An "Activist Investor" is not the same as "Activism" in a political sense. It just means an investor that wants to make changes in the company which it invests, think Active vs Passive. So this investment firm Trian is looking to change the operations for Disney. There is nothing about being "woke according to Trian's public statements. Everything they talk about is operating decisions, increasing shareholder value. Absolutely nothing about being woke, gay, movies not in Chinese theaters, or any of the other BS that gets thrown around here. Here is a good link: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230111005991/en/Trian-Nominates-Nelson-Peltz-for-Election-to-Disney-Board Upon attaining Board representation, Trian will look to work collaboratively with Disney’s leadership to: FIX Corporate Governance Develop an effective succession plan Align compensation with performance FIX Strategy & Operations Improve DTC operating margins Eliminate redundant and/or excessive costs Refocus the creative engine to drive profitable growth FIX Capital Allocation Enhance accountability on capital allocation Reinstate the dividend by FY 2025 Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 59 Posted February 6, 2023 triggered over a cartoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,163 Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said: triggered over a cartoon It's almost as if you're unwilling to look past anything than what your masters at the DNC plantation tell you to look at. Are you this stupid in real life? Or is this just a game you play here? I mean, you know how propaganda and indoctrination works, right? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 6, 2023 Has anyone ever been to Disney? They're never getting cancelled. It's all fat, green haired 30 year olds with no kids dressed up like their favorite characters. The crazy Libs usually have Disney tattoos all over their body. Instead of going to an Island for a week they'd rather go to Disney. It's quite fascinating 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said: triggered over a cartoon How is it "triggered" to be concerned what television is showing your kids in the guise of it being on a kids channel? Are you one of those parents that don't give a shlt what your kids are exposed to? Or are you all in on gay and calling everyone a racist? I'm guessing both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 59 Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: It's almost as if you're unwilling to look past anything than what your masters at the DNC plantation tell you to look at. Are you this stupid in real life? Or is this just a game you play here? I mean, you know how propaganda and indoctrination works, right? Yes I do, because I've seen it in real life, pushed by both sides. But you only see it on one side, which means it worked on you. But go ahead and keep getting upset over a cartoon that presents a different viewpoint than yours, and does so in a lighthearted way, including the shocked audience reactions and the face melt meme at the end. A kid watching this cartoon is not going to destroy the earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 59 Posted February 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, League Champion said: Has anyone ever been to Disney? They're never getting cancelled. It's all fat, green haired 30 year olds with no kids dressed up like their favorite characters. The crazy Libs usually have Disney tattoos all over their body. Instead of going to an Island for a week they'd rather go to Disney. It's quite fascinating  I've been to Disney several times, as recent as August 2022, and didn't see one green haired 30 year old dressed up. Keep being wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted February 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, League Champion said: Has anyone ever been to Disney? They're never getting cancelled. It's all fat, green haired 30 year olds with no kids dressed up like their favorite characters. The crazy Libs usually have Disney tattoos all over their body. Instead of going to an Island for a week they'd rather go to Disney. It's quite fascinating I was amazed when I was there. Having to wait on line with adults and their adult children at an amusement park geared towards children. It’s all based on a talking mouse and a duck wearing a shirt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,163 Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Jeff Probst said: Yes I do, because I've seen it in real life, pushed by both sides. But you only see it on one side, which means it worked on you. But go ahead and keep getting upset over a cartoon that presents a different viewpoint than yours, and does so in a lighthearted way, including the shocked audience reactions and the face melt meme at the end. A kid watching this cartoon is not going to destroy the earth. Yep, just as I thought. You really are that stupid in real life. I mean, seriously, you're the perfect Democrat - non-thinking, non-questioning. Just do think what your masters tell you to think. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 6, 2023 47 minutes ago, Strike said: Â 1.) TBF: I know Christopher Rufo is a MAGA hero but I mean history books do show that while Lincoln "freed" the slaves it was not as if when the bill was signed a switch was flicked and people were immediately free. It still took many slaves years and decades to gain their freedom. It is silly to dismiss Lincoln entirely as doing nothing because there were other people who could have been President at the time who truly would've done nothing to help. Lincoln was deeply concerned about slavery and worked hard to provide a steady hand as it related to it and his actions did help towards slavery ending. But it is accurate to say "Emancipation did not equal freedom for many." 2.) Rufo is exactly the type of person and degree MAGA world would mock endlessly if a lIberal who held those degrees was posting this gibberish. In fact, they do. 3.) Who gets this triggered by a cartoon that is run on a pay streaming service? It is watched by an average amount of people. Also, you guys are really dopey if you think kids are so detached that they are going to say "Oh man, if the Proud family says it then it must be true." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 59 Posted February 6, 2023 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yep, just as I thought. You really are that stupid in real life. I mean, seriously, you're the perfect Democrat - non-thinking, non-questioning. Just do think what your masters tell you to think. I'm not a democrat, I even voted for Trump, once. But no didn't vote for Biden, he's terrible, voted all R in my last election. Keep being wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: 1.) TBF: I know Christopher Rufo is a MAGA hero but I mean history books do show that while Lincoln "freed" the slaves it was not as if when the bill was signed a switch was flicked and people were immediately free. It still took many slaves years and decades to gain their freedom. It is silly to dismiss Lincoln entirely as doing nothing because there were other people who could have been President at the time who truly would've done nothing to help. Lincoln was deeply concerned about slavery and worked hard to provide a steady hand as it related to it and his actions did help towards slavery ending. But it is accurate to say "Emancipation did not equal freedom for many." 2.) Rufo is exactly the type of person and degree MAGA world would mock endlessly if a lIberal who held those degrees was posting this gibberish. In fact, they do. 3.) Who gets this triggered by a cartoon that is run on a pay streaming service? It is watched by an average amount of people. Also, you guys are really dopey if you think kids are so detached that they are going to say "Oh man, if the Proud family says it then it must be true." Another school day goes by and here’s Mooney posting away.  Don’t you at least have a hall to monitor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,163 Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said: I'm not a democrat, I even voted for Trump, once. But no didn't vote for Biden, he's terrible, voted all R in my last election. Keep being wrong. Sure you're not.  Defends Democrats and Democrat policies all day while excoriating Republicans and Republican policies all day long but, yeah, you're NOT a Democrat. GTFO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,607 Posted February 6, 2023 Gotta love it when all the suspended accounts run in with their aliases to defend their cause....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Strike said: Gotta love it when all the suspended accounts run in with their aliases to defend their cause....... That is some counter argument to actually debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Another school day goes by and here’s Mooney posting away.  Don’t you at least have a hall to monitor? And still as of 02/06/23...HT just can't quit me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Sure you're not.  Defends Democrats and Democrat policies all day while excoriating Republicans and Republican policies all day long but, yeah, you're NOT a Democrat. GTFO. That's a disease on this site. Democrats are incapable of saying who they are in reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,607 Posted February 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: That is some counter argument to actually debate. What's there to debate? You seem to think impressionable children don't learn anything from cartoons.  I don't even know why they bothered with the schoolhouse rock series of videos.  Now, back to the corner with you until your timeout expires!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Strike said: What's there to debate? You seem to think impressionable children don't learn anything from cartoons.  I don't even know why they bothered with the schoolhouse rock series of videos.  Now, back to the corner with you until your timeout expires!!!! 1.) TBF: I know Christopher Rufo is a MAGA hero but I mean history books do show that while Lincoln "freed" the slaves it was not as if when the bill was signed a switch was flicked and people were immediately free. It still took many slaves years and decades to gain their freedom. It is silly to dismiss Lincoln entirely as doing nothing because there were other people who could have been President at the time who truly would've done nothing to help. Lincoln was deeply concerned about slavery and worked hard to provide a steady hand as it related to it and his actions did help towards slavery ending. But it is accurate to say "Emancipation did not equal freedom for many."  Also, yes- I don't think kids just mindlessly accept things. Also, what was the context of the video in the show? Do you know that or are you just yelling at clouds because Rufo told you to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,878 Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: But it is accurate to say "Emancipation did not equal freedom for many."   Of course it is. The Emancipation Proclamation was limited to those states that joined the Confederacy. It did not attempt to remove slavery in Maryland or Delaware or Kentucky. Lincoln was a great man, the greatest of our Presidents. But he was also a bigoted man of his times. Prior to issuing the Emancipation Proclamation, he invited Frederick Douglass and several other black leaders to the White House, and asked for acceptance for his plan to forcibly deport  all black people back to Africa with the argument that blacks and whites could never live together in peace. Thats history. I think it should be taught; Ron DeSantis does not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,163 Posted February 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Of course it is. The Emancipation Proclamation was limited to those states that joined the Confederacy. It did not attempt to remove slavery in Maryland or Delaware or Kentucky. Lincoln was a great man, the greatest of our Presidents. But he was also a bigoted man of his times. Prior to issuing the Emancipation Proclamation, he invited Frederick Douglass and several other black leaders to the White House, and asked for acceptance for his plan to forcibly deport  all black people back to Africa with the argument that blacks and whites could never live together in peace. Thats history. I think it should be taught; Ron DeSantis does not. The problem with you progressives is that you can never see progress. It's always 1850s USA with you guys. No matter how far we've come, no matter how many strides we've made, it will always be 1850s USA.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,878 Posted February 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: The problem with you progressives is that you can never see progress. It's always 1850s USA with you guys. No matter how far we've come, no matter how many strides we've made, it will always be 1850s USA.  That’s not true. This country is infinitely better, with regard to race issues, than we were in 1850, or 1950 for that matter. We’ve accomplished a great deal and should celebrate and take pride in how far we’ve come. The problem with you conservatives is that you think these sort of accomplishments are all in the past and now we can stop moving forward. We can’t. A more perfect Union is an ongoing task. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: The problem with you progressives is that you can never see progress. It's always 1850s USA with you guys. No matter how far we've come, no matter how many strides we've made, it will always be 1850s USA.  I think ideas of- "we've come a long way" and "we've still got progress that needs to be made" are not mutually exclusive despite how people position them Too many leftists focus on the latter and ignore the former...too many conservatives focus on the former and ignore the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: That’s not true. This country is infinitely better, with regard to race issues, than we were in 1850, or 1950 for that matter. We’ve accomplished a great deal and should celebrate and take pride in how far we’ve come. The problem with you conservatives is that you think these sort of accomplishments are all in the past and now we can stop moving forward. We can’t. A more perfect Union is an ongoing task. Sure, the country is better today than it was in 1850 as far as race relations, but it's waaayyyy worse than it was before obama took office. Way worse. You love throwing the "racist" word around a lot. Ever think that maybe some people just start disliking others not necessarily because of the color of their skin, but rather because of what type of people they have turned into under the liberal umbrella? I think you are all focking sick. I hate white and black liberals. I'm more wanting of being around people who are more like me, conservative whether they are white or black. I never felt that way in the past before obama started with all his identity politics bullshlt. Liberals went off the deep end on it and I'm done with you all. I don't care if you are black or transexual or black and transexual, if you are a hard core identity politics liberal, I don't like you. Call it racist if you want. But you would be wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,878 Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, craftsman said: Sure, the country is better today than it was in 1850 as far as race relations, but it's waaayyyy worse than it was before obama took office. Way worse. You love throwing the "racist" word around a lot. Ever think that maybe some people just start disliking others not necessarily because of the color of their skin, but rather because of what type of people they have turned into under the liberal umbrella? I think you are all focking sick. I hate white and black liberals. I'm more wanting of being around people who are more like me, conservative whether they are white or black. I never felt that way in the past before obama started with all his identity politics bullshlt. Liberals went off the deep end on it and I'm done with you all. I don't care if you are black or transexual or black and transexual, if you are a hard core identity politics liberal, I don't like you. Call it racist if you want. But you would be wrong. I don’t think you’re a racist. But I think you’re completely wrong about Obama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think you’re a racist. But I think you’re completely wrong about Obama. He is a racist and he is a homophobe as well. Give him enough time and he will show it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Jeff Probst said: I've been to Disney several times, as recent as August 2022, and didn't see one green haired 30 year old dressed up. Keep being wrong. You're full of crap They're everywhere in Disney. My Wife and I were goofing on them relentlessly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 59 Posted February 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, League Champion said: You're full of crap They're everywhere in Disney. My Wife and I were goofing on them relentlessly What happened to you is called frequency bias, when you have heightened awareness of something that you think it happens more frequently than it does. You were looking for this type of person and seemingly saw them everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted February 7, 2023 16 hours ago, Jeff Probst said:  A kid watching this cartoon is not going to destroy the earth. You think they'll be satisfied with Minneapolis or Portland or Kenosha? Anyway, this activism is another example of why non-leftoids can't just plop their kid in front of a Disney cartoon anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted February 7, 2023 16 hours ago, Strike said: What's there to debate? You seem to think impressionable children don't learn anything from cartoons.  I don't even know why they bothered with the schoolhouse rock series of videos.  Now, back to the corner with you until your timeout expires!!!! Oh don't start with Schoolhouse Rock that was awesome. I can still recite the Preamble because of it. I'd be afraid of a leftoid re-do of it though, it'd look like this Disney video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted February 7, 2023 17 hours ago, craftsman said: Sure, the country is better today than it was in 1850 as far as race relations, but it's waaayyyy worse than it was before obama took office. Way worse. You love throwing the "racist" word around a lot. Ever think that maybe some people just start disliking others not necessarily because of the color of their skin, but rather because of what type of people they have turned into under the liberal umbrella? I think you are all focking sick. I hate white and black liberals. I'm more wanting of being around people who are more like me, conservative whether they are white or black. I never felt that way in the past before obama started with all his identity politics bullshlt. Liberals went off the deep end on it and I'm done with you all. I don't care if you are black or transexual or black and transexual, if you are a hard core identity politics liberal, I don't like you. Call it racist if you want. But you would be wrong. You're right, racial issues were set just right in the late 90s and I'd thought the election of Obama which culminated in that was a product of the era. I personally missed most of the 2000s or 10s to identify when things went off the rails. From overseas, I'd held generally positive, but mixed feelings towards Obama for those years. Part of that might have been the residual goodwill of being overjoyed that GWB was out of office. There are quite a few responsible black people with good moral values, with a work ethic, and that don't hate police that can and should be peeled off from the Democrats. The Dems' grip on Hispanic voters is loosening for these same reason. I'd like to pull the carpet out from under the skeevy white liberals who are the true enemy of decency and a lost cause, by swiping ethnic minorities who are tired of being run over and taken for granted and can come to their senses. I think that's the smart move for the GOP to make. Dems make and target them with sickening Disney videos like this trashing the country in order to keep them blind and on the plantation.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted February 7, 2023 17 hours ago, craftsman said: How is it "triggered" to be concerned what television is showing your kids in the guise of it being on a kids channel? Are you one of those parents that don't give a shlt what your kids are exposed to? Or are you all in on gay and calling everyone a racist? I'm guessing both. It is essential that your kids be taught they are white supremists and that African Americans are 100 percent responsible for building this country. We must continue the brainwashing of children. On the plus side, at least our corporate-governance has moved on from hiring Nazis and doing LSD experiments on citizens. Now they use Disney and target children.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Voltaire said: Oh don't start with Schoolhouse Rock that was awesome. I can still recite the Preamble because of it. I'd be afraid of a leftoid re-do of it though, it'd look like this Disney video. They just did a 50th anniversary thing about it on TV last week with celebrities doing a sing-a-long of the sonds It was good..but they did have Raven Symone on, and the Black Eyed Peas, Kemit and Fozzie sang with a lesbian, and the dude who banged a pie was a part of it....so I'm sure many pearls were clutched and fainting couches all over America were occupied....Maybe not on the last guy- he was white at least, but he did have a relationship with an apple pie which now he wants to get married too. All because we let gay people get married. The horror Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted February 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: They just did a 50th anniversary thing about it on TV last week with celebrities doing a sing-a-long of the sonds It was good..but they did have Raven Symone on, and the Black Eyed Peas, Kemit and Fozzie sang with a lesbian, and the dude who banged a pie was a part of it....so I'm sure many pearls were clutched and fainting couches all over America were occupied....Maybe not on the last guy- he was white at least, but he did have a relationship with an apple pie which now he wants to get married too. All because we let gay people get married. The horror Oh dear Lord. I mean I don't care about the people presenting the information so long as they look presentable and are providing accurate information, but I don't trust/want the people making that bullsh*t Disney content above, the same people who masturbating to images of BLM rioters tearing down George Washington statues, to be replacing Schoolhouse Rock in providing "civics" lessons to kids. Indoctrination of kids into LGBTQ and CRT is the place where the lines get drawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,984 Posted February 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Oh dear Lord. I mean I don't care about the people presenting the information so long as they look presentable and are providing accurate information, but I don't trust/want the people making that bullsh*t Disney content above, the same people who masturbating to images of BLM rioters tearing down George Washington statues, to be replacing Schoolhouse Rock in providing "civics" lessons to kids. Indoctrination of kids into LGBTQ and CRT is the place where the lines get drawn. I think the pearl clutching is beyond absurd here at this point on this stuff. "Masturbating to images of BLM rioters"....are you listening to yourself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,256 Posted February 7, 2023 5 hours ago, jonmx said: It is essential that your kids be taught they are white supremists and that African Americans are 100 percent responsible for building this country. We must continue the brainwashing of children. On the plus side, at least our corporate-governance has moved on from hiring Nazis and doing LSD experiments on citizens. Now they use Disney and target children.  I am just so very glad that my kids managed to escape this trite nonsense....good lord, the damage being done here is substantial.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites