Roe V Wade overturned!!! Leaked, SCOTUS SHOULD BE IMPEACHED

[wiffleball 4,790]

Okay, so I'm not going to read like 17 pages. But I saw something interesting last night. I was absolutely appalled that SCoTuS leaked an opinion. And then I found out last night that the original RvW  was leaked as well.

 

Turns out scotus isnt nearly a sacrosanct as we believed it to be.

 

And separately, at the end of the day?  like everything else in this country, it's going to end up being a state's rights issue. The Federal govt has no business legislating this crap.  I'm a very strict enumerated duties guy. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Second and third party accusations? Searching text? I saw it on my focking TV, in real time

This would be like disputing that planes were flown into the World Trade Center. Are you one of those guys too? We all saw it, bub 

that wasn't an insurrection, there were no weapons, it was mostly peaceful, a few things broken

thats why INSURRECTION has NOT been a charge to ANYONE mr Lawyer

[TimmySmith 2,782]

3 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Okay, so I'm not going to read like 17 pages. But I saw something interesting last night. I was absolutely appalled that SCoTuS leaked an opinion. And then I found out last night that the original RvW  was leaked as well.

Where did you see this? 

[wiffleball 4,790]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

that wasn't an insurrection, there were no weapons, it was mostly peaceful, a few things broken

thats why INSURRECTION has NOT been a charge to ANYONE mr Lawyer

are you f****** kidding me? God, talk about denial. There are pictures of people hundreds of them literally scaling the walls. 

 

I mean, just because Sean hannity tells you it's a couple guys taking selfies doesn't make it f****** true. 

 

That's what kills me. There's so much information out there. I mean God damn pictures. and people just literally pretend it doesn't exist.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

3 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

are you f****** kidding me? God, talk about denial. There are pictures of people hundreds of them literally scaling the walls. 

 

I mean, just because Sean hannity tells you it's a couple guys taking selfies doesn't make it f****** true. 

 

That's what kills me. There's so much information out there. I mean God damn pictures. and people just literally pretend it doesn't exist.

yep, just like every other riot

it was a riot, not an insurrection

who is sean hannity dumba55, you know I don't watch that sh1t

so much info they can't even get anyone convicted, all misdemeanor charges

 

[Gladiators 1,995]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

that wasn't an insurrection, there were no weapons, it was mostly peaceful, a few things broken

thats why INSURRECTION has NOT been a charge to ANYONE mr Lawyer

Careful.  I'll bet Wiff's PTSD is going to kick in.

[wiffleball 4,790]

https://www.google.com/search?q=insurrection+pictures&oq=insurrection+pictures&aqs=chrome..69i57.11891j1j7&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgdii=u5Lt7q55CB7xGM&imgrc=6ppb8mAhP63v5M

You think this was f****** photoshopped? Does this look like a couple guys taking selfies? Because if it's any other country , we would consider it a s*** hole banana republic.

 

[wiffleball 4,790]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

 

it was a riot, not an insurrection

 

Well that's a new one.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=insurrection+pictures&oq=insurrection+pictures&aqs=chrome..69i57.11891j1j7&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgdii=u5Lt7q55CB7xGM&imgrc=6ppb8mAhP63v5M

You think this was f****** photoshopped? Does this look like a couple guys taking selfies? Because if it's any other country , we would consider it a s*** hole banana republic.

 

looks like a rally with some people rioting

but nothing was being burnt down like your peaceful protests

[Gladiators 1,995]

Just now, wiffleball said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=insurrection+pictures&oq=insurrection+pictures&aqs=chrome..69i57.11891j1j7&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgdii=u5Lt7q55CB7xGM&imgrc=6ppb8mAhP63v5M

You think this was f****** photoshopped? Does this look like a couple guys taking selfies? Because if it's any other country , we would consider it a s*** hole banana republic.

 

Yep, I see people taking selfies, but you're right, it wasn't just guys...There were women as well.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

Well that's a new one.

how is it a new one, I have always called it a riot

please show me one person charged with insurrection, how about murder, assault, etc etc

trespassing is all you got

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

Just now, Gladiators said:

Yep, I see people taking selfies, but you're right, it wasn't just guys...There were women as well.

are you a focking biologist, 

oh wait that went out the window a couple days ago

[Gladiators 1,995]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

are you a focking biologist, 

oh wait that went out the window a couple days ago

My bad

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

that wasn't an insurrection, there were no weapons, it was mostly peaceful, a few things broken

thats why INSURRECTION has NOT been a charge to ANYONE mr Lawyer

Why do you downplay this so much?  A man plead guilty to bringing 11 molotov cocktails to the Capitol.  Others had stun guns, pepper spray, bats and clubs.

I'm not going to make it sound as bad as the left does but I'm also not going to downplay it like you are.  Let's be a little honest with what actually happened.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Why do you downplay this so much?  A man plead guilty to bringing 11 molotov cocktails to the Capitol.  Others had stun guns, pepper spray, bats and clubs.

I'm not going to make it sound as bad as the left does but I'm also not going to downplay it like you are.  Let's be a little honest with what actually happened.

what I know is that if you wanna form an insurrection, they suck at it

a few bad apples in the bunch, yep some people did some things

its bad, its just like every other Riot, I lived outside of Watts in 92, that was scary and an insane riot, george floyd insane riot

this was a day, where people went into the capitol and one person died (a person who went in) and the lies started from day one

it was stupid, it focked every conservative cause they continue to try and push this like its the worst day in history

gimme a break

Hawk, I know youre realistic, you know if the same exact thing happened from the left, it would never be in the news 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

what I know is that if you wanna form an insurrection, they suck at it

a few bad apples in the bunch, yep some people did some things

its bad, its just like every other Riot, I lived outside of Watts in 92, that was scary and an insane riot, george floyd insane riot

this was a day, where people went into the capitol and one person died (a person who went in) and the lies started from day one

it was stupid, it focked every conservative cause they continue to try and push this like its the worst day in history

gimme a break

Hawk, I know youre realistic, you know if the same exact thing happened from the left, it would never be in the news 

What makes this a bigger deal is that is was our Nation's Capitol.  I'm sure it would have been handled differently by the media if it were the left but none of that is the point, that's just deflecting.  It was a bigger deal than what a bunch here make it out to be.

Here's a list of all the charges.  You'll see some charges for weapons.  https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

[wiffleball 4,790]

7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

 

so much info they can't even get anyone convicted, all misdemeanor charges

 

No one convicted huh? Jesus.

 

As much as I absolutely abhor stupid f****** liberals,  Republicans used to be the smartest guys in the room when I was a younger man. Now, stupid f****** white trash has ruined the Republican party. God dammit...

 

I mean Jesus christ, when George Bush the stupid looks like an elder statesman compared to the f****** clown show from Trump and whatever the f*** else is going on with the pillow guy and Rudy Giuliani and on and on and on? 

 

Jesus putin. Right before your cancer surgery, just go ahead and launch the f****** nukes.

 

The left will b**** about how nuclear war is going to accelerate global warming snd the right will claim that Putin is still a really good guy at heart and Hunter Biden is the real enemy to amurica...

 

[RLLD 4,254]

10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Why do you downplay this so much?  A man plead guilty to bringing 11 molotov cocktails to the Capitol.  Others had stun guns, pepper spray, bats and clubs.

I'm not going to make it sound as bad as the left does but I'm also not going to downplay it like you are.  Let's be a little honest with what actually happened.

I see that you want to change the act based on the location, I get that, i simply do not agree.  The lives of those at the Capital are not more important to me than those in areas where the leftists introduced violence.

[Gladiators 1,995]

Hawkeye only calling out one side...shocker

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I see that you want to change the act based on the location, I get that, i simply do not agree.  The lives of those at the Capital are not more important to me than those in areas where the leftists introduced violence.

What?  I'm not changing anything.  Why is it that the riot at the Capitol can not be talked about without having a bunch of "whatabouts" from the stupid antifa riots?  I don't think a single person here has downplayed those other riots, that was the media.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

2 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Hawkeye only calling out one side...shocker

What side am I suppose to be calling out here?  You know any time I agree with you guys here it just gets ignored.  You only see what you want to see.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,513]

25 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Okay, so I'm not going to read like 17 pages. But I saw something interesting last night. I was absolutely appalled that SCoTuS leaked an opinion. And then I found out last night that the original RvW  was leaked as well.

 

Turns out scotus isnt nearly a sacrosanct as we believed it to be.

 

And separately, at the end of the day?  like everything else in this country, it's going to end up being a state's rights issue. The Federal govt has no business legislating this crap.  I'm a very strict enumerated duties guy. 

You should read the 17 pages. Then you would know that a draft isn’t a decision.  HTH.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What makes this a bigger deal is that is was our Nation's Capitol.  I'm sure it would have been handled differently by the media if it were the left but none of that is the point, that's just deflecting.  It was a bigger deal than what a bunch here make it out to be.

Here's a list of all the charges.  You'll see some charges for weapons.  https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

was there a problem when protestors stormed the capitol and tried banging down the door during the Kavanuagh hearing?

thats good info, some weapon charges, very few if any convictions for weapons

[Gladiators 1,995]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What side am I suppose to be calling out here?  You know any time I agree with you guys here it just gets ignored.  You only see what you want to see.

If you're a middle of the road guy, you call out neither or both sides.  Have you not read wiff's posts on the subject?

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

What?  I'm not changing anything.  Why is it that the riot at the Capitol can not be talked about without having a bunch of "whatabouts" from the stupid antifa riots?  I don't think a single person here has downplayed those other riots, that was the media.

Then you haven't been paying attention. Liberals don't talk about the 2020 riots. 

And by the way, the 2020 riots were caused $2B x more pain and suffering. 

All this "insurrection" bullshlt is made up. aoc needing PSTD therapy is a farcical. So stupid. 

[IGotWorms 4,059]

18 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yep, just like every other riot

it was a riot, not an insurrection

who is sean hannity dumba55, you know I don't watch that sh1t

so much info they can't even get anyone convicted, all misdemeanor charges

 

It was a riot that penetrated the walls of the United States Capitol in an effort to prevent certification of the results of a democratic election, with some people threatening to murder members of Congress and the Vice President of the United States, and involving assaults on and deaths of Capitol police officers.

So yeah, I think that’s a riot that we can also call an insurrection. There are riots that are not also insurrections, but this was not one of them.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

was there a problem when protestors stormed the capitol and tried banging down the door during the Kavanuagh hearing?

 

Yes.  Pretty simple.  Were people here saying it was cool to do that?

[RLLD 4,254]

6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What?  I'm not changing anything.  Why is it that the riot at the Capitol can not be talked about without having a bunch of "whatabouts" from the stupid antifa riots?  I don't think a single person here has downplayed those other riots, that was the media.

I wonder, would there have been such an act without the antifa/BLM riots?  

You see, when i hear liberal talking heads point to events like Chapelle being attacked and say : Because of Trump" I think to myself, well lets extend that philosophical notion and see if it can work elsewhere.

It is whataboutism, because Liberals pretend their actions are moral and just, and when someone with whom they are ideologically opposed does the same thing, those people are evil.

Either the act is wrong or it isnt. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

It was a riot that penetrated the walls of the United States Capitol in an effort to prevent certification of the results of a democratic election, with some people threatening to murder members of Congress and the Vice President of the United States, and involving assaults on and deaths of Capitol police officers.

So yeah, I think that’s a riot that we can also call an insurrection. There are riots that are not also insurrections, but this was not one of them.

ok mr lawyer, this is why nobody believes you are a lawyer, LAW has absolute definitions, where are the charges of INSURRECTION

as far as going to the capitol, awesome

I think its better if you are going to riot and protest take that sh1t to the politicians, not burn down your neighborhood like morons

 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, RLLD said:

I wonder, would there have been such an act without the antifa/BLM riots?  

You see, when i hear liberal talking heads point to events like Chapelle being attacked and say : Because of Trump" I think to myself, well lets extend that philosophical notion and see if it can work elsewhere.

It is whataboutism, because Liberals pretend their actions are moral and just, and when someone with whom they are ideologically opposed does the same thing, those people are evil.

Either the act is wrong or it isnt. 

They're wrong.  Who's arguing that here?  I think you want to have this conversation with the media or others that do not post here.  I haven't seen anyone here downplay the antifa riots but I've seen a lot of downplaying of what happened at the Capitol.  How do you not see that?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Yes.  Pretty simple.  Were people here saying it was cool to do that?

my point being was it covered even?  were there charges? what happened there?  it just went away

 

[Cdub100 3,933]

We should have free on-demand abortions at any stage of pregnancy for POC. White people need to pay 5x the cost.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

ok mr lawyer, this is why nobody believes you are a lawyer, LAW has absolute definitions, where are the charges of INSURRECTION

as far as going to the capitol, awesome

I think its better if you are going to riot and protest take that sh1t to the politicians, not burn down your neighborhood like morons

 

This site makes it much easier to see what everyone got charged for.  People are still being arrested.  Just yesterday an Iowa man was arrested for being there.

Forgot the link, https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

[IGotWorms 4,059]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

ok mr lawyer, this is why nobody believes you are a lawyer, LAW has absolute definitions, where are the charges of INSURRECTION

as far as going to the capitol, awesome

I think its better if you are going to riot and protest take that sh1t to the politicians, not burn down your neighborhood like morons

 

People have been charged, convicted, and pled guilty to a number of different crimes in connection with the insurrection. Has anyone been hung for treason? No, and I’m totally fine with that. Clearly it would be several bridges too far. But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a significant attack on the Capitol.

I don’t understand why you can’t just acknowledge that. You weren’t there, right? So why can’t you just say yeah geez that was really bad and they shouldn’t have oughta done that?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,513]

4 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

We should have free on-demand abortions at any stage of pregnancy for POC. White people need to pay 5x the cost.

Even down at the trailer park? Can’t we give them feeebies too? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

People have been charged, convicted, and pled guilty to a number of different crimes in connection with the insurrection. Has anyone been hung for treason? No, and I’m totally fine with that. Clearly it would be several bridges too far. But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a significant attack on the Capitol.

I don’t understand why you can’t just acknowledge that. You weren’t there, right? So why can’t you just say yeah geez that was really bad and they shouldn’t have oughta done that?

Why do you call it an "insurrection"‽

I'll tell you why. Because some hack reporter said it first, then the liberal politicians thought yeah, that's better than what we were saying. Let's say that now.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,513]

I don’t draw a big distinction between a persons business being destroyed and looting and burning and what went on at the Capitol. I’m not a toady who thinks one group of citizens is more important than another. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

Hey, it turns out that no one's ever been charged with leaving their child in a hot car. So I guess that never f****** happened?  Yeah, they were charged with murder and child endangerment, but never leaving a child in a hot car! 

 

Jesus, I'm so sick of f****** stupid and semantic word play. If this were any other country and we saw pictures like that we'd consider it to be a s*** hole banana republic.

 

I mean, how we go from 9/11 patriotism to jackasses literally storming the capital? And you think they're both patriots? F*** them. F*** you. 

 

The thing is? And I've said this before. Trump isn't stupid. He is making a ton of money on the stupid. And on the system.  When you morons contribute money to fight " the fake election?" 99% of that money goes into Trump's pockets. F****** read something. He finally figured out what Eddie Murphy figured out a long time ago. In The Distinguished Gentleman. The big money is found in washington.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,513]

I think a few people have been charged with insurrection recently. It was still mostly peaceful though.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

People have been charged, convicted, and pled guilty to a number of different crimes in connection with the insurrection. Has anyone been hung for treason? No, and I’m totally fine with that. Clearly it would be several bridges too far. But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a significant attack on the Capitol.

I don’t understand why you can’t just acknowledge that. You weren’t there, right? So why can’t you just say yeah geez that was really bad and they shouldn’t have oughta done that?

there is no connection to an insurrection, just cause you keep saying it doesn't make it true

yes people have been convicted and plead

remove insurrection from your sentence and I agree with everything else you said

it was significant, it was stupid, it should have never happened

but it WAS NOT an attempt to overthrow the govt