NFL 2022

[BeenHereBefore 1,669]

How do you feel about the Carr benching ? I can understand it and always though he was average at best.

[Reality 3,134]

7 hours ago, BeenHereBefore said:

How do you feel about the Carr benching ? I can understand it and always though he was average at best.

63-79 as a starter, at his absolute best, he's a top 20 QB. Time to move on, maybe he can be successful with another team but, I don't see it.

[cmh6476 1,154]

I'm glad the Broncos and raiders are in disarray.   But you kind of have to feel sorry for them both.   Maybe.   Not really. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

18 hours ago, MDC said:

I predict he doesn’t play this year. 

thats good.  we need more predictions around here and less mocking of them.

[MDC 8,087]

30 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

thats good.  we need more predictions around here and less mocking of them.

I think we need more predictions that people stand behind right or wrong and less pathetic hedging and crawfishing.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

I think we need more predictions that people stand behind right or wrong and less pathetic hedging and crawfishing.  

there is nothing wrong with hedging.  hedging is good.

[MDC 8,087]

1 minute ago, JustinCharge said:

there is nothing wrong with hedging.  hedging is good.

The shame comes in when you make ridiculous excuses or claim that your prediction was not a prediction in the first place.

For example your prediction that Russia would nuke the US by the end of this year. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

37 minutes ago, MDC said:

The shame comes in when you make ridiculous excuses or claim that your prediction was not a prediction in the first place.

For example your prediction that Russia would nuke the US by the end of this year. 

well now you are an outright liar but ill quote this lie, no problem.

[MDC 8,087]

41 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

well now you are an outright liar but ill quote this lie, no problem.

Did you not claim that Russia is going to nuke the US by year end 2022?

[Hardcore troubadour 16,037]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Did you not claim that Russia is going to nuke the US by year end 2022?

Hey ball bag, it’s a football thread. You can pick on Justin in a bunch of other threads. Cut the crap. 

[MDC 8,087]

Tardcore telling anyone to stop off topic slapfights.  

[Hardcore troubadour 16,037]

27 minutes ago, MDC said:

Tardcore telling anyone to stop off topic slapfights.  

Great. You’re right. Take it elsewhere. 

[listen2me 23 1,966]

I have come to the conclusion that Dak is as average as it gets.   Cowboys never win anything substantial with him.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,037]

2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I have come to the conclusion that Dak is as average as it gets.   Cowboys never win anything substantial with him.

I have been a big defender of his. But it seems he’s going backwards. 

[listen2me 23 1,966]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I have been a big defender of his. But it seems he’s going backwards. 

Seems like a decent dude.  But hes just meh across thr board. 

But I take that back.  The NFC is so bad.  Dak could see Bucs and Minny 1st 2 rounds.   Or worse.  So he could pull off a playoff game or 2.   Hopefully to keep jerrah believing.  

[Hardcore troubadour 16,037]

3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Seems like a decent dude.  But hes just meh across thr board. 

But I take that back.  The NFC is so bad.  Dak could see Bucs and Minny 1st 2 rounds.   Or worse.  So he could pull off a playoff game or 2.   Hopefully to keep jerrah believing.  

I think the Eagles are very good. It would surprise me if anyone but SF gave them a problem in the playoffs. The NFC is weak. 

[MDC 8,087]

Eagles are getting beaten up at a bad time. Lane Johnson would be a massive blow if he can’t go in the playoffs and Maddox is an excellent slot corner. That’s assuming Hurts is good for the layoffs.

Dak is in the Top 10-12 QB range. He doesn’t seem like he’ll ever come all the way back from his injury. But he owns the NFCE.

Sort of reminds me of when Donovan owned the division but never won a title.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I think the Eagles are very good. It would surprise me if anyone but SF gave them a problem in the playoffs. The NFC is weak. 

NFC is weak but SF defense can make them competitive with anyone. Even with Purdy, I can see them giving anyone in the AFC a run for their money.

[listen2me 23 1,966]

20 minutes ago, MDC said:

Eagles are getting beaten up at a bad time. Lane Johnson would be a massive blow if he can’t go in the playoffs and Maddox is an excellent slot corner. That’s assuming Hurts is good for the layoffs.

Dak is in the Top 10-12 QB range. He doesn’t seem like he’ll ever come all the way back from his injury. But he owns the NFCE.

Sort of reminds me of when Donovan owned the division but never won a title.

The division has been bad in his tenure until this year.   He has put up some stats but really what is his calling card?  Decision making? Bad.  Arm? Ok.  Accuracy? Ok.  Legs? Ok.  Gets hurt.  

[listen2me 23 1,966]

15 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said:

NFC is weak but SF defense can make them competitive with anyone. Even with Purdy, I can see them giving anyone in the AFC a run for their money.

Ive maintained this all year and even when Purdy went in.   They have a real team with a real coach/coaches.  Purdy may screw it up but if he doesn't they can beat anyone.  

[listen2me 23 1,966]

Just now, listen2me 23 said:

The division has been bad in his tenure until this year.   He has put up some stats but really what is his calling card?  Decision making? Bad.  Arm? Ok.  Accuracy? Ok.  Legs? Ok.  Gets hurt.  

To add he has jad all the weapons.

He is middling.

[listen2me 23 1,966]

I don't mean to just hop on these trains.   But we have seen backups be better than the starter.  Jets skins.  9ers in a way with lance.  

You can't tell me Minshew or Mike White can't be inserted in the Dallas offense and put up pts?  I think they wouod no doubt.  

[5-Points 3,838]

6 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I don't mean to just hop on these trains.   But we have seen backups be better than the starter.  Jets skins.  9ers in a way with lance.  

You can't tell me Minshew or Mike White can't be inserted in the Dallas offense and put up pts?  I think they wouod no doubt.  

They prolly could if Dallas had a different HC and different OC calling the plays. 

[MDC 8,087]

39 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

The division has been bad in his tenure until this year.   He has put up some stats but really what is his calling card?  Decision making? Bad.  Arm? Ok.  Accuracy? Ok.  Legs? Ok.  Gets hurt.  

The NFCE was bad during most of DMac’s time too.  

Dak has a plus arm and decent accuracy. He used to be a beast ti bring down but the injuries really hurt his mobility. He’s a guy many teams would love to have but not a QB who will elevate the players around him. This year’s Dallas team is the best in a long time though. They have a shot to get to the SB. 

[listen2me 23 1,966]

Just now, MDC said:

The NFCE was bad during most of DMac’s time too.

Dak has a plus arm and decent accuracy. He used to be a beast ti bring down but the injuries really hurt his mobility. He’s a guy many teams would love to have but not a QB who will elevate the players around him. This year’s Dallas team is the best in a long time though. They have a shot to get to the SB. 

They may have a shot to get there basically because thr NFC is the weakest it has been in a long time.

I'm not saying he is horrible.   There are only so many QBs.  But he is middling in my eyes.  Some QBs we tab as lesser may look just as good in his spot.  With as many playoff wins.

[MDC 8,087]

2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

They may have a shot to get there basically because thr NFC is the weakest it has been in a long time.

I'm not saying he is horrible.   There are only so many QBs.  But he is middling in my eyes.  Some QBs we tab as lesser may look just as good in his spot.  With as many playoff wins.

Minshew and White is a stretch.

[listen2me 23 1,966]

Just now, MDC said:

Minshew and White is a stretch.

I think there is an argument.   We can give Dak the benefit of the doubt because he has seen those snaps.   But I bet they would have the same number of playoff wins and move the ball in his shoes.  

I really don't know what Dak does real well? He is one of those guys who is ok at everything.  Isn't like he takes care of the ball. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

dak just seems to turn into a pumpkin for long stretches.  i said i would not give him that contract and they should look elsewhere. but they can win a super bowl with him if he just holds it together for a few games.

[MDC 8,087]

12 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

I think there is an argument.   We can give Dak the benefit of the doubt because he has seen those snaps.   But I bet they would have the same number of playoff wins and move the ball in his shoes.  

I really don't know what Dak does real well? He is one of those guys who is ok at everything.  Isn't like he takes care of the ball. 

Dak has a plus arm and had good mobility. He was a tough guy to bring down. The injury either robbed him of mobility or made him less likely ti run and his decision making has gotten worse. He’s still in the 10-12 range.

Over the course of a season Dak would be leagues better than Minshew or White. 

[listen2me 23 1,966]

Just now, MDC said:

Dak has a plus arm and had good mobility. He was a tough guy to bring down. The injury either robbed him of mobility or made him less likely ti run and his decision making has gotten worse. He’s still in the 10-12 range.

Over the course of a season Dak would be leagues better than Minshew or White. 

He has maybe a decent arm.  So do 20 other starting QBs.  I mean yeah he was mobile.  But he is hardly a threat now.  He was never super fast.  Any typical QB today can move some.  He has had a couple nice statistical seasons.  But he also has had loads of talent on the offense.  Just seems like a guy when things aren't going well or the oline is a little broken, he can't overcome it.  

Yeah jury is still out on Minshew and White.  But I would like those guys to get starting rolls and see how it goes.  Instead of teams throwing money at Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz why not give these QBs a run?  Seems so obvious.    Spot starting is much different than playing 17 games I understand.  But when they are in they move the ball.   Most any other backup comes in and it is game manage time.  

He is probably 10 to 12 range.  Which is a sad fact of current NFL play.  Top drafted QBs turning out mediocre.  Older guys hitting the wall.  Lamar and Stafford injuries.  Guys like Wentz and Russ who are not old just sucking.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

alex rollins just pumped out a video about Brock Purdy.  havent watched it yet but they seem thought provoking.

 

[cmh6476 1,154]

MVPat?

[posty 2,849]

[cmh6476 1,154]

7 minutes ago, posty said:

Who? Hurts?

[Voltaire 5,524]

Thank You Browns and Saints (hopefully). Now need the Jets to come through vs Seattle.

[cmh6476 1,154]

And the Broncos lose to the Chiefs for the 15th straight time. 

[Voltaire 5,524]

Go Jets!

[Voltaire 5,524]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

Go Jets!

Focking dumbasses. How can you give up a 60 yard run on the first play of the game?

 

[Voltaire 5,524]

9 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Focking dumbasses. How can you give up a 60 yard run on the first play of the game?

 

Interception. My God, this pathetic team focking sucks

 

 

[Big Guy 1,430]

Congrats to the Giants!

And good job Saints........Philly on the Hotseat