Patented Phil 823 Posted February 7, 2023 Fact. Seen it for myself firsthand. They dress it up in "Socialism" and "Social Justice", but the primary impetus behind today's Liberal movement is a belief that Capitalism is irredeemable and the only solution is a state-forced redistribution of wealth on a massive scale. Their goal is rule by the Liberal Intelligentsia, where the idiot masses (ie - Trump voters) have no say in the new order. Most Liberals - many in this forum - are completely naive to this. They need to join a local radical movement and hear for themselves what is said during these meetings, like I have. Race and sexual identity are mere vehicles to get to their ultimate goal, which at its core is a total takedown of everything America was built on. Discuss my fellow a-holes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozmiq 70 Posted February 7, 2023 I can see why you would say that BUT NOT on a massive scale as you say. And funds are already being redistributed in many ways. So, I'm sure that you would understand (without argument) that Conservativisms is at heart, Naziism. Btw, your pillows suck ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517 Posted February 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Fact. Seen it for myself firsthand. They dress it up in "Socialism" and "Social Justice", but the primary impetus behind today's Liberal movement is a belief that Capitalism is irredeemable and the only solution is a state-forced redistribution of wealth on a massive scale. Their goal is rule by the Liberal Intelligentsia, where the idiot masses (ie - Trump voters) have no say in the new order. Most Liberals - many in this forum - are completely naive to this. They need to join a local radical movement and hear for themselves what is said during these meetings, like I have. Race and sexual identity are mere vehicles to get to their ultimate goal, which at its core is a total takedown of everything America was built on. Discuss my fellow a-holes. Well, yeah. I mean, I've been saying this for at least a decade already. It's not even debatable at this point. I LIVE with one of those liberals so I'm getting is straight from the horse's mouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, kozmiq said: I can see why you would say that BUT NOT on a massive scale as you say. And funds are already being redistributed in many ways. So, I'm sure that you would understand (without argument) that Conservativisms is at heart, Naziism. Btw, your pillows suck ! Another liberal hack has spoken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,939 Posted February 7, 2023 At the heart of modern conservatism is fascism. OK I don’t really believe that, but see how easy it was to write? People who write tripe like this, about Communism or fascism, don’t really understand the meaning of those two horrors. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517 Posted February 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: At the heart of modern conservatism is fascism. OK I don’t really believe that, but see how easy it was to write? People who write tripe like this, about Communism or fascism, don’t really understand the meaning of those two horrors. Well, it was easy if you ignore reality of course. I mean, your side of the aisle has LITERALLY elected at least 6 confirmed socialists and I believe there are like 92 others who claim to be "Democratic Socialists", which is just a smoke screen to cover up the fact that they are, y'know, actual Socialists. Your side of the aisle is more comfortable in a room with Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Mao than they would be with the Founding Fathers. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,939 Posted February 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Well, it was easy if you ignore reality of course. I mean, your side of the aisle has LITERALLY elected at least 6 confirmed socialists and I believe there are like 92 others who claim to be "Democratic Socialists", which is just a smoke screen to cover up the fact that they are, y'know, actual Socialists. Your side of the aisle is more comfortable in a room with Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Mao than they would be with the Founding Fathers. The problem with your theory is that Democratic Socialists aren’t Communists. In fact, if you study the history of Europe, it was Democratic Socialists who fought the Communist Party the most, like Lech Walesa of Poland or the labor party of Germany (social Democrats). While I don’t agree with their politics, the Democratic Socialists of modern times, like AOC and Bernie, are aligned with the Labor Party in England and the governments of most of Scandinavia, none of whom are Communist. Meanwhile the most prominent leader of the conservative movement plays footsie with fascist dictators in Hungary, Turkey, Brazil, and a few other places. That’s more of a connection to extremism, if you’re looking for it, than anything the Democrats are up to. But again, I don’t really believe Republicans are fascist either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 896 Posted February 7, 2023 It is 2023 and people are still talking about Communism like it is somehow a viable political ideology. I love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,649 Posted February 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The problem with your theory is that Democratic Socialists aren’t Communists. In fact, if you study the history of Europe, it was Democratic Socialists who fought the Communist Party the most, like Lech Walesa of Poland or the labor party of Germany (social Democrats). While I don’t agree with their politics, the Democratic Socialists of modern times, like AOC and Bernie, are aligned with the Labor Party in England and the governments of most of Scandinavia, none of whom are Communist. Meanwhile the most prominent leader of the conservative movement plays footsie with fascist dictators in Hungary, Turkey, Brazil, and a few other places. That’s more of a connection to extremism, if you’re looking for it, than anything the Democrats are up to. But again, I don’t really believe Republicans are fascist either. Biden begged Venezuela for oil. Is that kind of footsie ok with you? China gave his family millions. Is Saudi Arabia a dictatorship? He just kissed their ass not long ago. One of the first things he did was lift the sanctions on Russias pipeline. I guess footsie with despots is ok . Sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517 Posted February 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, squistion said: It is 2023 and people are still talking about Communism like it is somehow a viable political ideology. I love it. Viable? Your side is literally promoting it. I mean my previous post. I just listed out all of the socialists you have in your party. A democratic socialist is nothing more than a socialist with the word Democrat in front of his name to confuse people. They really no different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,939 Posted February 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Biden begged Venezuela for oil. Is that kind of footsie ok with you? China gave his family millions. Is Saudi Arabia a dictatorship? He just kissed their ass not long ago. One of the first things he did was lift the sanctions on Russias pipeline. I guess footsie with despots is ok . Sometimes. I think you raise a good point here. But it depends on what is said. Trump consistently made headlines by praising strong men and saying how much he admired their autocratic ways. No President of the USA has ever said that before. True, guys like Biden and Obama and Bush talk about our friendship with China and Saudi Arabia, but they never say stuff like “hey China, I like how you handled that protest in Tianneman Square!” That’s the sort of thing Trump did. Which is part of what made him so unique and awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,649 Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: I think you raise a good point here. But it depends on what is said. Trump consistently made headlines by praising strong men and saying how much he admired their autocratic ways. No President of the USA has ever said that before. True, guys like Biden and Obama and Bush talk about our friendship with China and Saudi Arabia, but they never say stuff like “hey China, I like how you handled that protest in Tianneman Square!” That’s the sort of thing Trump did. Which is part of what made him so unique and awful. He never said anything like that. Or “tell Vladimir I’ll have more flexibility after the election”. That really happened. I guess we didn’t know Putin was a bad guy back then. Also, Trump never said about Russia being a geo- political threat “the 1980’s called, they want their foreign policy back”. I bet the neocons gave Obama a good thrashing after that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,939 Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He never said anything like that. Or “tell Vladimir I’ll have more flexibility after the election”. That really happened. I guess we didn’t know Putin was a bad guy back then. Also, Trump never said about Russia being a geo- political threat “the 1980’s called, they want their foreign policy back”. I bet the neocons gave Obama a good thrashing after that one. Obama was very wrong about that. Part of the reason I voted for Mitt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,649 Posted February 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Obama was very wrong about that. Part of the reason I voted for Mitt. You don’t think we should pursue peace or better relations with bad people? Just go begging when you need something, after you trash them ? You know, the only ones you can make peace with is your enemies. Biden had no issues with China when they were paying his family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 7, 2023 I swear to God I thought the thread title said communion... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,939 Posted February 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You don’t think we should pursue peace or better relations with bad people? Just go begging when you need something, after you trash them ? You know, the only ones you can make peace with is your enemies. Biden had no issues with China when they were paying his family. For a moment I thought you wanted to engage in a real, serious discussion. My bad. You just want to score points off liberals. Not really interested. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,649 Posted February 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: For a moment I thought you wanted to engage in a real, serious discussion. My bad. You just want to score points off liberals. Not really interested. Yeah, stick to your OMB narratives even when it’s shown to be BS and your guys are far worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,266 Posted February 7, 2023 At the heart of modern conservatism is fascism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 823 Posted February 7, 2023 2 hours ago, kozmiq said: I can see why you would say that BUT NOT on a massive scale as you say. And funds are already being redistributed in many ways. So, I'm sure that you would understand (without argument) that Conservativisms is at heart, Naziism. Btw, your pillows suck ! You had me until the pillows bit. I’m sleeping on that b!tch right now and it’s the best thing since sliced bread. As any drug addict will tell you, sometimes great epiphanies come to you when you’re focked up and rolling around in your own vomit. The Giza Dream Sheets are crap though. So are the slippers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 823 Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: At the heart of modern conservatism is fascism. OK I don’t really believe that, but see how easy it was to write? People who write tripe like this, about Communism or fascism, don’t really understand the meaning of those two horrors. Oh contraire Mr. Schocet. I speak from personal experience. I will say this though…. The hairy arm-pitted sea hag that attracted me to the whole movement to begin with ended up being 100% worth it. FREAK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 823 Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, squistion said: It is 2023 and people are still talking about Communism like it is somehow a viable political ideology. I love it. In 2023, are you still pleasuring yourself to pigeons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 823 Posted February 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: At the heart of modern conservatism is fascism. I’m not prepared to dismiss this notion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted February 7, 2023 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: The problem with your theory is that Democratic Socialists aren’t Communists. In fact, if you study the history of Europe, it was Democratic Socialists who fought the Communist Party the most, like Lech Walesa of Poland or the labor party of Germany (social Democrats). While I don’t agree with their politics, the Democratic Socialists of modern times, like AOC and Bernie, are aligned with the Labor Party in England and the governments of most of Scandinavia, none of whom are Communist. Meanwhile the most prominent leader of the conservative movement plays footsie with fascist dictators in Hungary, Turkey, Brazil, and a few other places. That’s more of a connection to extremism, if you’re looking for it, than anything the Democrats are up to. But again, I don’t really believe Republicans are fascist either. Bernie and AOC are capitalists, pushing socialism cause they are elite and dont have to worry about socialism focking up their lives Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,939 Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Patented Phil said: Oh contraire Mr. Schocet. I speak from personal experience. I will say this though…. The hairy arm-pitted sea hag that attracted me to the whole movement to begin with ended up being 100% worth it. FREAK. You speak from personal experience regarding Communism? Please explain, thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,590 Posted February 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Patented Phil said: Fact. Seen it for myself firsthand. They dress it up in "Socialism" and "Social Justice", but the primary impetus behind today's Liberal movement is a belief that Capitalism is irredeemable and the only solution is a state-forced redistribution of wealth on a massive scale. Their goal is rule by the Liberal Intelligentsia, where the idiot masses (ie - Trump voters) have no say in the new order. Most Liberals - many in this forum - are completely naive to this. They need to join a local radical movement and hear for themselves what is said during these meetings, like I have. Race and sexual identity are mere vehicles to get to their ultimate goal, which at its core is a total takedown of everything America was built on. Discuss my fellow a-holes. Modern leftism is not communism at all. What we have today is a corporate-government alliance which runs the country and has much more power than our elected leaders. Our media, universities, entertainment industry, social media, search-engines, health industry, military industry, banking industry, energy industry in alliance with our intelligence cartel already run this country. The CIA. NSA, and FBI are completely above the law and has partnered with or infiltrated these institutions to control the vast of wealth and the vast majority of information our minds consume. This is why it barely matters of who we elect. The Democratic party completely endorses this modern day fascist hierarchy of authority. And while the GOP might mildly oppose it, their opposition is more to appease the disgruntled masses who are uncomfortable with where we are headed, without really exposing the truth. We really completely lost this country when LBJ and the CIA-FBI executed their Coup d-Etat. They really have no desire to redistribute wealth because they have the wealth and power. Their goal is to expand this fascist hierarchical power structure while they manufacture division within the masses through such things as racial conflict and through the perversion of the family structure with the LGBQT-XYZ nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,559 Posted February 7, 2023 When I was in school, liberal academia had tolerated all these unserious ill-reputed radical gender, racial, and Marxism beliefs on its fringes but had not given them much oxygen. Unfortunately, they didn't stay there, they've now taken over and have mutated the educational environment; those of us that love and respect the country are left fighting a rearguard action. Decent liberals are over-run but at least they are starting to see what's going on. Conservatives can help but many of the overwhelmed idiots think we're all racists. Hopefully people of good will realize what the leftoids are up to so we can take the fight to their freak show better. If JK Rowling and Bill Maher can stuff the animals back in their cages, I'd be delighted to go back to debating policy with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517 Posted February 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: At the heart of modern conservatism is fascism. Please provide me list of congressman that are Republicans that were elected to office that proclaim to be fascists. In the meantime, your side of the aisle has elected a at least six defacto socialists and another 92 others pretending that they're not. Keep in mind, they all proclaim to be socialists. Of course, you won't be able to, but I'd like to see you try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 839 Posted February 7, 2023 9 hours ago, squistion said: It is 2023 and people are still talking about Communism like it is somehow a viable political ideology. I love it. We know you love it commie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 896 Posted February 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: We know you love it commie Commie? I'm wouldn't even call myself a socialist, although I do believe in a loose form of socialism, like Social Security and Medicare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,266 Posted February 7, 2023 4 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Please provide me list of congressman that are Republicans that were elected to office that proclaim to be fascists. In the meantime, your side of the aisle has elected a at least six defacto socialists and another 92 others pretending that they're not. Keep in mind, they all proclaim to be socialists. Of course, you won't be able to, but I'd like to see you try. It will equal in number to the Democrats you can name who are in office and proclaim to be communists. Of course, you won't be able to, but I'd like to see you try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,939 Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, Pimpadeaux said: It will equal in number to the Democrats you can name who are in office and proclaim to be communists. Of course, you won't be able to, but I'd like to see you try. But but but…they’re Democratic socialists and Tucker Carlson says it’s the EXACT SAME THING!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted February 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Patented Phil said: Fact. Seen it for myself firsthand. They dress it up in "Socialism" and "Social Justice", but the primary impetus behind today's Liberal movement is a belief that Capitalism is irredeemable and the only solution is a state-forced redistribution of wealth on a massive scale. Their goal is rule by the Liberal Intelligentsia, where the idiot masses (ie - Trump voters) have no say in the new order. Most Liberals - many in this forum - are completely naive to this. They need to join a local radical movement and hear for themselves what is said during these meetings, like I have. Race and sexual identity are mere vehicles to get to their ultimate goal, which at its core is a total takedown of everything America was built on. Discuss my fellow a-holes. Interesting take - I’ve never seen this before. You should write a blog! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,266 Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: But but but…they’re Democratic socialists and Tucker Carlson says it’s the EXACT SAME THING!!!! My point being that the extreme right sees the entire left in this communism light, while the extreme left sees the entire right in a fascist light. The far right is noisier because it has Cucker Carlson - the No. 1 MSM mouthpiece in the land - as their savior, despite being an ongoing fountain of misinformation and catastrophizing hack, with his resting constipation face and joyless nature in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,266 Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, MDC said: Interesting take - I’ve never seen this before. You should write a blog! Our cities are burning. Our children are being sent to pedophile grooming camps. The Chinese balloon inundated us with 5G rays and a new virus we can't stop. The Deep State, laughing, spreads its wings. Oh lord, yeah! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Our cities are burning. Our children are being sent to pedophile grooming camps. The Chinese balloon inundated us with 5G rays and a new virus we can't stop. The Deep State, laughing, spreads its wings. Oh lord, yeah! And your ex wife's hair color is not safe!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,266 Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, craftsman said: And your ex wife's hair color is not safe!!! 5G turned her hair from black to gray The angels came, took her away Along the beach, along the waves And on and on, no more to say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said: 5G turned her hair from black to gray The angels came, took her away Along the beach, along the waves And on and on, no more to say Someone restated what I wrote online a couple months ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted February 7, 2023 "Communism was just a red herring" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted February 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: But but but…they’re Democratic socialists and Tucker Carlson says it’s the EXACT SAME THING!!!! democratic socialism is the same as regular socialism, just cause you vote to take stuff you didn't earn doesn't change that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,266 Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: democratic socialism is the same as regular socialism, just cause you vote to take stuff you didn't earn doesn't change that I suppose that means republican fascism is the same as regular fascism, just cause you vote against to take stuff you earned doesn't change that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites