Georgia grand jury recommends multiple indictments in Trump election probe

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1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

If Arizonas signature verification process was secure, why did a bipartisan group of lawmakers just pass specific minimum requirements for signature verification?

https://www.azleg.gov/press/house/56LEG/1R/230223KOLODINHB2322.pdf

So as to avoid another POS losing candidate claiming election fraud.

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3 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

So as to avoid another POS losing candidate claiming election fraud.

Kari Lake rings a bell...

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7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Kari Lake rings a bell...

Stacy Abrams too. You forgot her. 

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

6 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

You said they didn't exist "in all the swing states"---so far you have provided ZERE evidence to back up your claim. 

Curious about your list you posted above can you share a link. 

https://www.dos.pa.gov/about-us/Documents/statements/2022-10-28-ResponseRepRyan-Letter.pdf

“The Pennsylvania Department of State’s guidance unconstitutionally did away with Pennsylvania’s statutory signature verification requirements prior to 2020.”

"The effect of this unconstitutional change in Georgia election law, which made it more likely that ballots without matching signatures would be counted, had a material impact on the outcome of the election."

2020 GA rejection rate: 0.37%
2016 GA rejection rate: 6.42%

How does an election with an unprecedented amount of mail in ballots have such a minuscule rejection rate vs. 4 years prior? 

 

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11 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

So as to avoid another POS losing candidate claiming election fraud.

It's amazing to me how these election deniers continue to cling to this belief despite pretty much everyone else on both side of the political spectrum - judges included - have dismissed the claims and moved on with their lives.

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

12 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

So as to avoid another POS losing candidate claiming election fraud.

This isn’t the Hillary thread 

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Muh election fraud.

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

It's amazing to me how these election deniers continue to cling to this belief despite pretty much everyone else on both side of the political spectrum - judges included - have dismissed the claims and moved on with their lives.

I’ve proved you wrong just accept the loss and move on. Plenty of election laws passed without legislative action we deemed unconstitutional.

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

5 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Curious about your list you posted above can you share a link. 

https://www.dos.pa.gov/about-us/Documents/statements/2022-10-28-ResponseRepRyan-Letter.pdf

“The Pennsylvania Department of State’s guidance unconstitutionally did away with Pennsylvania’s statutory signature verification requirements prior to 2020.”

"The effect of this unconstitutional change in Georgia election law, which made it more likely that ballots without matching signatures would be counted, had a material impact on the outcome of the election."

2020 GA rejection rate: 0.37%
2016 GA rejection rate: 6.42%

How does an election with an unprecedented amount of mail in ballots have such a minuscule rejection rate vs. 4 years prior? 

 

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-14-how-states-verify-voted-absentee-mail-ballots

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-14-how-states-verify-voted-absentee-mail-ballots

From your link. 

Nine states, the Virgin Islands and Washington, D.C., verify that an absentee/mail ballot envelope has been signed but do not conduct signature verification:

Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Kansas, Maryland, Nebraska, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Vermont and Wyoming.

How do you verify a signature without verifying a signature?

 

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

From your link. 

Nine states, the Virgin Islands and Washington, D.C., verify that an absentee/mail ballot envelope has been signed but do not conduct signature verification:

Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Kansas, Maryland, Nebraska, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Vermont and Wyoming.

How do you verify a signature without verifying a signature?

 

Sorry, but no where does it say on that page that they "verify a signature without verifying a signature?  Those states/district don't require signature verification. 

Also, you said every swing state, this is not true, nor have you even attempted to prove it to be true. Be better with your arguments and statements. 

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5 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

From your link. 

Nine states, the Virgin Islands and Washington, D.C., verify that an absentee/mail ballot envelope has been signed but do not conduct signature verification:

Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Kansas, Maryland, Nebraska, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Vermont and Wyoming.

How do you verify a signature without verifying a signature?

 

And Trump would have won were it not for those sneaky Virgin Islanders!!!!

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Sorry, but no where does it say on that page that they "verify a signature without verifying a signature?  Those states/district don't require signature verification. 

Also, you said every swing state, this is not true, nor have you even attempted to prove it to be true. Be better with your arguments and statements. 

Nine states, the Virgin Islands and Washington, D.C., verify that an absentee/mail ballot envelope has been signed but do not conduct signature verification:

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

Just now, Dizkneelande said:

Nine states, the Virgin Islands and Washington, D.C., verify that an absentee/mail ballot envelope has been signed but do not conduct signature verification:

There is a line on the envelop that says "signature".  If it's not signed, they don't allow the ballot. Those states do not claim to verify the signature so again, your statement of ""verify a signature without verifying a signature?" makes no sense what-so-ever and...

Also, you said every swing state, 

 

 

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

5 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Sorry, but no where does it say on that page that they "verify a signature without verifying a signature?  Those states/district don't require signature verification. 

Also, you said every swing state, this is not true, nor have you even attempted to prove it to be true. Be better with your arguments and statements. 

Michigan, GA, PA, WI, NV all relaxed absentee voting laws including signature verification and ballot harvesting laws unconstitutionally without legislative action. Texas, and 14 other states, presented a clear case. Recounts are pointless if fraudulent ballots were counted in the first place, and without signature verification they mean nothing. You be better I’ve shown my work even pointed out discrepancies and contradictions from your link which was updated last year. 

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

Just now, Mike Honcho said:

There is a line on the envelop that says "signature".  If it's not signed, they don't allow the ballot. Those states do not claim to verify the signature so again, your statement of ""verify a signature without verifying a signature?" makes no sense what-so-ever and...

Also, you said every swing state, 

 

 

So how do you verify the name on the ballot is the same person that signed it if you cannot verify the signature?

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

Michigan, GA, PA, WI, NV all relaxed absentee voting laws including signature verification and ballot harvesting laws unconstitutionally without legislative action. Texas, and 14 other states, presented a clear case. Recounts are pointless if fraudulent ballots were counted in the first place, and without signature verification they mean nothing. You be better I’ve shown my work even pointed out discrepancies and contradictions from your link which was updated last year. 

 

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12 million harvested ballots through mass mailings in urban county swing states with no signature verification and no post mark dates.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Stacy Abrams too. You forgot her. 

So sick and tired of this comparison. 
 

Stacy Abrams fought the result in court. I think that was unwise of her. When she lost in court she conceded the election and even congratulated her opponent. Neither Donald Trump or Kari Lake has ever done that. Please stop comparing them to Abrams or Hillary who have both behaved honorably. 

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29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So sick and tired of this comparison. 
 

Stacy Abrams fought the result in court. I think that was unwise of her. When she lost in court she conceded the election and even congratulated her opponent. Neither Donald Trump or Kari Lake has ever done that. Please stop comparing them to Abrams or Hillary who have both behaved honorably. 

Not in 2018. 

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The only reason why states changed their election rules was because of COVID. PHUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

 

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2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

So sick and tired of this comparison. 
 

Stacy Abrams fought the result in court. I think that was unwise of her. When she lost in court she conceded the election and even congratulated her opponent. Neither Donald Trump or Kari Lake has ever done that. Please stop comparing them to Abrams or Hillary who have both behaved honorably. 

WTF are you talking about?  She never conceded. To this day she says she won.

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8 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

WTF are you talking about?  She never conceded. To this day she says she won.

Yes but she conceded in 2022. And even in 2018 she acknowledged that she lost, though she wouldn’t use the word “concession”. That was wrong of her. But it’s still nothing like Trump or Lake. 

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Rudy admits to his lies

In a court filing, Rudy Giulianiadmitted he made “false” allegations about Georgia election workers and no longer contests the outcome of the Georgia election. The filing came in response to a motion filed by election workers against Giuliani.

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GET TRUMP!!!!  

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Bring it on. 

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Just now, HellToupee said:

 

But Trump said his house was worth more than it is! 

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On 8/4/2023 at 12:32 PM, squistion said:

 

I am grateful that our system allows for some defense against malicious prosecution, but I lament that you have to be wealthy to really be able to defend yourself.