Donald Trump claims he will be arrested Tuesday in Manhattan probe, calls for protests

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Paul Manafort

Served time for tax and bank fraud, not Russia collusion, dumb asss.  

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And you went back 25 years. You’re damn right I was doing better things back then. You missed a lot of fun. But it was real nice of that degenerate Clinton to get a Cumm stained dress as part of the nightly news. 

So, the answer is yes you have a double standard. 

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3 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

So, the answer is yes you have a double standard. 

Nope. The Lewinsky affair investigation was 100 pct political. And the Ted Kennedy non investigation was too. 

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1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said:

If you are talking about whitewater, the NYT first raised the issue so yes it is whataboutism.

And what the 3000 WSJ articles about Whitewater? If you think Trump is being a victim of leftist media, but don't think Clinton faced the same from right wing media, you aren't being honest or you are a partisan shill without any ability to think critically on your own.

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nope. The Lewinsky affair investigation was 100 pct political. And the Ted Kennedy non investigation was too. 

Why didn't you just say that hours ago when I asked?

 

 

 

[Strike 5,276]

It is what we thought it was:

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-trump-to-be-charged-tuesday-with-34-felony-counts-but-spared-handcuffs-and-mug-shot-001241750.html

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We're up to 34 counts.

 

[thegeneral 2,994]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

It is what we thought it was:

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-trump-to-be-charged-tuesday-with-34-felony-counts-but-spared-handcuffs-and-mug-shot-001241750.html

That kind of sounds like what was being speculated, no?

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3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

That kind of sounds like what was being speculated, no?

Tell that to TimsCrotch.

[The Real timschochet 6,529]

60% of Americans approve of this indictment: 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/03/politics/cnn-poll-trump-indictment/index.html

They shouldn’t. Like the rest of us they don’t know anything- in fact I would venture to guess that most of those polls know far less than anyone reading this post- because most of you, like myself, are at least politically interested. 
 

The takeaway from this poll, for me, is that around 60% of the public doesn’t like Trump. If that number is firm he has NO chance of winning an election, even against an unpopular Biden. Yet at the same time this indictment appears to be firming up Trump’s already strong support among the Republican base. Which means he will likely be the GOP nominee, and he’ll likely be crushed. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

60% of Americans approve of this indictment: 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/03/politics/cnn-poll-trump-indictment/index.html

They shouldn’t. Like the rest of us they don’t know anything- in fact I would venture to guess that most of those polls know far less than anyone reading this post- because most of you, like myself, are at least politically interested. 
 

The takeaway from this poll, for me, is that around 60% of the public doesn’t like Trump. If that number is firm he has NO chance of winning an election, even against an unpopular Biden. Yet at the same time this indictment appears to be firming up Trump’s already strong support among the Republican base. Which means he will likely be the GOP nominee, and he’ll likely be crushed. 

This story is along the lines of what I was getting at earlier.  More people in today's world, including jurors, have preconceived notions about all political figures, including their guilt or innocence.  I do agree it's unlikely Trump could ever win the general election today.  I would like to see DeSantis but for the time being this is helping Trump tremendously in the primary.  That's short term, we will see long term.

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1 minute ago, Mark Davis said:

This story is along the lines of what I was getting at earlier.  More people in today's world, including jurors, have preconceived notions about all political figures, including their guilt or innocence.  I do agree it's unlikely Trump could ever win the general election today.  I would like to see DeSantis but for the time being this is helping Trump tremendously in the primary.  That's short term, we will see long term.

I think you’re right. At the moment, Republicans are angry and defiant and their inclination is to stand by Trump. But if he’s indicted 2, maybe 3 more times for much more serious crimes? (Georgia, the files, Jan 6). It could change conservative opinion. 
 

Personally every conservative I talk to, 100% of them, would prefer DeSantis. I hear it over and over and over. They like Trump, they think Trump is getting the shaft, but he’s too old and got too much baggage. They want the new. But it’s not being reflected in Republican polling. 

[Mike Honcho 5,146]

With friends like these...

 

[Engorgeous George 2,171]

Dawn is lighting up the canyons of New York City.  Here in the Rockies it is dark and snowing currently. I imagine the former President to be wide awake so he can have a big breakfast and then get a fresh coat of orange before having his hair whipped up and his suit pulled over his girth and his depends undergarment.  

I wonder, will his wife make a 'stand by her man" appearance?  Will he make a bad situation worse by making it all about him, as is his wont?  Will his legal team lose a member today when they all realize he will not heed their advice and instead will ill-advisedly shoot off his mouth?  

It should be a fascinating day.  Particularly as the Rorschach Test which is Trump is viewed from the outskirts of our political media.

[Mike Honcho 5,146]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Dawn is lighting up the canyons of New York City.  Here in the Rockies it is dark and snowing currently. I imagine the former President to be wide awake so he can have a big breakfast and then get a fresh coat of orange before having his hair whipped up and his suit pulled over his girth and his depends undergarment.  

I wonder, will his wife make a 'stand by her man" appearance?  Will he make a bad situation worse by making it all about him, as is his wont?  Will his legal team lose a member today when they all realize he will not heed their advice and instead will ill-advisedly shoot off his mouth?  

It should be a fascinating day.  Particularly as the Rorschach Test which is Trump is viewed from the outskirts of our political media.

I see one of his fans is already there waiting for him.

 

 

[Mike Honcho 5,146]

When he leaves the courtroom he should start screaming "I did not kill my wife, there was a one-armed man, you find this man!!!, Find the one-armed man!!!!"

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10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think you’re right. At the moment, Republicans are angry and defiant and their inclination is to stand by Trump. But if he’s indicted 2, maybe 3 more times for much more serious crimes? (Georgia, the files, Jan 6). It could change conservative opinion. 
 

Personally every conservative I talk to, 100% of them, would prefer DeSantis. I hear it over and over and over. They like Trump, they think Trump is getting the shaft, but he’s too old and got too much baggage. They want the new. But it’s not being reflected in Republican polling. 

I would prefer Desantis for sure.

He would be much more challenging for Democrats to do this.  They would absolutely still do it. But Desantis is better equipped.

It will not matter who the Republicans put up for candidacy, the Democrats will leverage their allies in media and the DOJ to go after that person. Sadly. 

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37 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I would prefer Desantis for sure.

He would be much more challenging for Democrats to do this.  They would absolutely still do it. But Desantis is better equipped.

It will not matter who the Republicans put up for candidacy, the Democrats will leverage their allies in media and the DOJ to go after that person. Sadly. 

And who appointed the attorney general in GA? 

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3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

And who appointed the attorney general in GA? 

to my memory it is an elective office, so I would say the people did.

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44 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I would prefer Desantis for sure.

He would be much more challenging for Democrats to do this.  They would absolutely still do it. But Desantis is better equipped.

It will not matter who the Republicans put up for candidacy, the Democrats will leverage their allies in media and the DOJ to go after that person. Sadly. 

Corny

DeSantis will get shredded by everyone. Dems, Trump, other candidates. It’s a tough game. 

[Mike Honcho 5,146]

3 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

to my memory it is an elective office, so I would say the people did.

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I would prefer Desantis for sure.

He would be much more challenging for Democrats to do this.  They would absolutely still do it. But Desantis is better equipped.

It will not matter who the Republicans put up for candidacy, the Democrats will leverage their allies in media and the DOJ to go after that person. Sadly. 

Since Donald Trump is the first former President in our history ever to be indicted, your assurance that “the Democrats” will do this to any Republicans strikes me as obviously a false one. 

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11 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think you’re right. At the moment, Republicans are angry and defiant and their inclination is to stand by Trump. But if he’s indicted 2, maybe 3 more times for much more serious crimes? (Georgia, the files, Jan 6). It could change conservative opinion. 
 

Personally every conservative I talk to, 100% of them, would prefer DeSantis. I hear it over and over and over. They like Trump, they think Trump is getting the shaft, but he’s too old and got too much baggage. They want the new. But it’s not being reflected in Republican polling. 

what did Trump do on J6? lol you are so deranged

 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Since Donald Trump is the first former President in our history ever to be indicted, your assurance that “the Democrats” will do this to any Republicans strikes me as obviously a false one. 

you think 2023 is the same as the last 250 years?  nope dems figured out a way to instill their fascist powers

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

you think 2023 is the same as the last 250 years?  nope dems figured out a way to instill their fascist powers

They used to have duels. 

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42 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

And who appointed the attorney general in GA? 

Not sure I care.....

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6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

what did Trump do on J6? lol you are so deranged

 

Personally I don’t think he did anything worthy of criminal indictment on that date. But I don’t know, and there is a lot of speculation that he the Justice Department will choose to indict him. If and when they do your question can be better answered. 

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34 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Corny

DeSantis will get shredded by everyone. Dems, Trump, other candidates. It’s a tough game. 

Unlikely.  Could he be beaten, of course.  But given his effectiveness and common sense approach, I think the center of the ideological divide would likely welcome him

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9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Since Donald Trump is the first former President in our history ever to be indicted, your assurance that “the Democrats” will do this to any Republicans strikes me as obviously a false one. 

The Democrats have shown their new approach. From the fake collusion hoax to the fabricated quid pro quo satire and now on to the documents and then this.  They seem to be drunk on the power afforded to them through government agencies and cronyism. 

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8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

you think 2023 is the same as the last 250 years?  nope dems figured out a way to instill their fascist powers

I believe that Trump is, among Presidents, a unique case in many ways. I certainly hope so. I do not believe that this indictment or any of the other potential charges against Trump are really against the Republican Party in general. That’s the implication you and others are making and I completely reject it. It’s a lie. 

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Just now, RLLD said:

Unlikely.  Could he be beaten, of course.  But given his effectiveness and common sense approach, I think the center of the ideological divide would likely welcome him

Will Trump is already running anti-DeSantis ads. The Dems of course will. 

I do agree whoever wants to take the “I’m not Trump” side for the Republicans has a big lane. They better be able to align all those candidates behind them, get them to drop out, or sadly I think Don takes the nom. 

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Unlikely.  Could he be beaten, of course.  But given his effectiveness and common sense approach, I think the center of the ideological divide would likely welcome him

Maybe. But not if he continues to stick with this anti-trans anti-woke stuff. The obsession with this stuff is very popular among conservatives but the rest of the country either is opposed to the conservative position or indifferent. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I believe that Trump is, among Presidents, a unique case in many ways. I certainly hope so. I do not believe that this indictment or any of the other potential charges against Trump are really against the Republican Party in general. That’s the implication you and others are making and I completely reject it. It’s a lie. 

do you literally believe that Trump has done anything worse than any other president?

do you literally believe that its ok for an opposing party to attempt to eliminate a candidate they don't like, same candidate they all loved until he had an R

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4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Will Trump is already running anti-DeSantis ads. The Dems of course will. 

I do agree whoever wants to take the “I’m not Trump” side for the Republicans has a big lane. They better be able to align all those candidates behind them, get them to drop out, or sadly I think Don takes the nom. 

Sadly I have to agree, right now, it does seem as though the most engaged political actors are at least propping up Trump. I have to believe there simply must be a glut of silent players out there waiting for something. And we have not yet heard from them.  I think they disdain Biden, and would rather not have Trump.  Who wins them is what I am awaiting. 

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4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Maybe. But not if he continues to stick with this anti-trans anti-woke stuff. The obsession with this stuff is very popular among conservatives but the rest of the country either is opposed to the conservative position or indifferent. 

I would tend to agree. I think it plays well locally for him, and he has used it rather well. I think parents are justifiably concerned with this movement and its tentacles reaching into the schools and their kids. But he needs to have a much wider agenda. And he seems to have some decent stuff to build on.

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6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Sadly I have to agree, right now, it does seem as though the most engaged political actors are at least propping up Trump. I have to believe there simply must be a glut of silent players out there waiting for something. And we have not yet heard from them.  I think they disdain Biden, and would rather not have Trump.  Who wins them is what I am awaiting. 

I think the same. Way too early, Trump is somehow still a viable candidate for many (super disappointing), and that someone else will come out of Republican nom process and take Don out. The longer this takes though the better for Don though.

Ron nationally has been pretty shaky. He comes across like a bit of an odd dude. But again super early. 

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I think the same. Way too early, Trump is somehow still a viable candidate for many (super disappointing), and that someone else will come out of Republican nom process and take Don out. The longer this takes though the better for Don though.

Ron nationally has been pretty shaky. He comes across like a bit of an odd dude. But again super early. 

Right now I favor Ron, though I would prefer to hear him more fully embrace Trump-era policies. I prefer effectiveness and I want to get that back. If its Densantis then fine, if it happens to be some Democrat, fine.... I dont care, I just want the harm to stop. 

[Mike Honcho 5,146]

Just read that even though New York requires it, Trump will not have to provide a DNA sample.  Kind of ironic, cause it's his DNA Sample that he did provide that got him into this whole mess in the first place.

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7 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Just read that even though New York requires it, Trump will not have to provide a DNA sample.  Kind of ironic, cause it's his DNA Sample that he did provide that got him into this whole mess in the first place.

Where did you read that? Cuz it ain’t true.