RogerDodger 797 Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, 5-Points said: These aren't long haul drivers. They can run back to the warehouse 3 or 4 times if necessary and still be under their allotted HOS. Now let me tell you about relief drivers. Relief drivers are drivers who are available to help when volume is high. They jump in one of the extra rigs the distributor has in the yard and pick up a few stops. Usually they jump in a side loader and run 5 or 6 stops to relieve some of the pressure on a driver or two. Like I said, you don't know what youre talking about. Maybe in some industries what you're saying is applicable. It isn't in this industry. Sounds like I could jump in and make your little local distributor a lot more money. Lots of resources sitting idle. But that's not what we are talking about, are we. We're talking about 10,000+ employees of a huge corporation. Huge corporations are my industry. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,567 Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Morons are saying it's racist when it doesn't mention race at all. People are so focking stupid. Racism is like duct tape to the Left; it addresses darn near any problem. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,388 Posted July 19, 2023 53 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Sounds like I could jump in and make your little local distributor a lot more money. Lots of resources sitting idle. But that's not what we are talking about, are we. We're talking about 10,000+ employees of a huge corporation. Huge corporations are my industry. No, you couldn't because you clearly know nothing about the industry. Also, I've been talking about all of the people affected by this boycott. Not just AB employees but everybody else down the line, including distributors and retailers. You need to think bigger, Rog. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: No, you couldn't because you clearly know nothing about the industry. Also, I've been talking about all of the people affected by this boycott. Not just AB employees but everybody else down the line, including distributors and retailers. You need to think bigger, Rog. I just picked the drivers example to try and help dumb it down for you. All these people are going to loose their jobs because of this! But it's the same amount of beer, the jobs just move elsewhere. The other retailer's employees just pick up the slack! C'mon, Economics 101. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 19, 2023 Roger's autism is showing. Even after being proven wrong multiple times, he's still trying to say he's right 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,289 Posted July 19, 2023 The consequences are all caused by the AB - Bud Light marketing choice that was done. People who changed from drinking Bud Light can buy and drink whatever they want or don't want to drink. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,131 Posted July 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: They were but we couldn't find the big ones. We had a lot of fun like always though. Maybe tomorrow they will find you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gepetto said: People who changed from drinking Bud Light can buy and drink whatever they want or don't want to drink. Keep saying this, because no one here is disagreeing with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,388 Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, RogerDodger said: Sounds like I could jump in and make your little local distributor a lot more money. Lots of resources sitting idle. But that's not what we are talking about, are we. We're talking about 10,000+ employees of a huge corporation. Huge corporations are my industry. You mean the extra rigs in the yard? Those are what's known as backups. You know, in case one breaks down? That way the route can still get delivered. 42 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: I just picked the drivers example to try and help dumb it down for you. All these people are going to loose their jobs because of this! But it's the same amount of beer, the jobs just move elsewhere. The other retailer's employees just pick up the slack! C'mon, Economics 101. You've definitely dumbed it down. I'm not sure it could be any dumber. Congrats. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,567 Posted July 19, 2023 14 hours ago, TimHauck said: #1 beer in America Fun fact, I just looked it up and Modelo is owned by... wait for it... AB InBev! Well, technically not in the US, because of antitrust laws apparently. Although I don't know the structure behind Constellation Brands or if it is related to InBev. Quote Who Owns Modelo Now? If you had said Grupo Modelo, you wouldn’t be wrong. But you wouldn’t be entirely correct either. I’ll explain. The original manufacturers of the beer went by the name Cervecería Modelo. However, there was a change of name to Grupo Modelo. For long, Grupo Modelo led the Mexican market in percentage shares and reserved the exclusive rights to Modelo. That changed in 2012, as AB InBev, the Belgian brewing giant, acquired Grupo Modelo for $20.1 billion. In 2013, Constellation Brands acquired the US rights to Grupo Modelo due to the United States antitrust laws. For context, the antitrust law is a collection of laws regulating businesses’ conduct and organization, promoting competition, and preventing unjustified monopolies. The US Department of Justice referred to this law when AB InBev wanted to control Grupo Modelo completely. As you can see, the ownership status of Modelo is complicated. However, in the United States, you can refer to Constellation Brands as the beer owner. Outside of the United States, the most accurate description of Modelo’s owner would be AB InBev-owned Grupo Modelo. But you can also say Grupo Modelo. https://beveragebeaver.com/this-is-where-modelo-is-brewed-11-breweries/#:~:text=Modelo is brewed in Mexico,Mexico City%2C 97 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,619 Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Fun fact, I just looked it up and Modelo is owned by... wait for it... AB InBev! Well, technically not in the US, because of antitrust laws apparently. Although I don't know the structure behind Constellation Brands or if it is related to InBev. https://beveragebeaver.com/this-is-where-modelo-is-brewed-11-breweries/#:~:text=Modelo is brewed in Mexico,Mexico City%2C 97 years ago. Yes, I knew that. But it is brewed in Mexico which was what my initial statement about them said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, 5-Points said: You mean the extra rigs in the yard? Those are what's known as backups. You know, in case one breaks down? Helpful Hint: If you want to maximize profit you try to get all your equipment running all the time. Just like you want all your employees to be working all the time. Equipment sitting idle is a big time money loser. Add this to your business plan: - Rental agreement to temporarily replace trucks that break down or need service. - Service agreement for repair shop, top priority. Lock in prices. - If your fleet is big enough do a cost comparison if it make sense to hire your own mechanics to service and repair. You're welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,802 Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: Roger's autism is showing. Even after being proven wrong multiple times, he's still trying to say he's right That's all you ever do on this site. You keep being wrong, and come back for more. It's who you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,289 Posted July 19, 2023 52 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Keep saying this, because no one here is disagreeing with you. I interpreted 5-Points to be blaming the beer drinkers for loss of jobs associated with Anheuser-Bush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,567 Posted July 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yes, I knew that. But it is brewed in Mexico which was what my initial statement about them said. True, but they could expand in the US if, say, demand grew, like is happening now. From the same link as earlier: Quote Where Is Modelo Brewed In The United States? Modelo is not brewed in any location in the United States. That will definitely surprise many, but it’s true. The company has not seen the need to expand into the United States, despite the US being the largest consumer of their exports. This is probably to save costs and energy, as the beer can be easily moved into the United States since it shares a border with Mexico. Still, many would expect Constellation Brands to bear some of the production burdens. For those that don’t know, due to the United States antitrust law, Constellation Brands has full import and marketing rights to all of the company’s beer business in the United States. However, Constellation Brands still cannot brew Modelo in the United States. Notwithstanding, Constellation Brands has capable breweries in the United States if there’s ever any need to expand. Similar to the United States, no brewery produces Modelo in the rest of the world. Again, Grupo Modelo will have no problem changing its policy, considering the beer company is a subsidiary of Anheuser-Busch InBev, the world’s biggest beer company. As such, integrating Modelo into their brewing schedule would not be much of a bother. Given the relationship to InBev, this seems like a win-win scenario -- redirect some resources from BL to Modelo in the US. Capitalism at work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: Roger's autism is showing. Even after being proven wrong multiple times, he's still trying to say he's right 4 hours ago, RogerDodger said: Things you've invented so far so that you're not wrong: - only 100 employees - only for a week - 100% efficiency is an absolute - only a short term demand fluctuation. Given up now, resorting to hominem attacks. Next he will turn into a grammar cop. Biggest man-child on the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted July 19, 2023 A tranny told me I had to use the tongs earlier today. True story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,131 Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: A tranny told me I had to use the tongs earlier today. True story. In conjunction with the serving spoon, or separately? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 19, 2023 To recap.... 17 hours ago, RogerDodger said: Jobs just move to where the work is. 16 hours ago, RogerDodger said: Simple example even a retard like you can understand. The second your current employees have to work a cumulative 40 hours overtime you should hire another person so you dont have to pay overtime. 4 hours ago, RogerDodger said: when volume increases and that driver has to go back a third time he hits the maximum HOS allowed by FMCSA and you need to hire another driver. 16 hours ago, RogerDodger said: You cant read. Do you understand the definition of "maximize"? Simple example even a retard like you can understand. You've never managed people or ran a business. GTFO 16 hours ago, RogerDodger said: Dumb as chit. 17 hours ago, RogerDodger said: Literally happens every day all day long if you ever get above Hardee's manager level. Dude spends all thread spewing BS and getting everything wrong, switches topics, still wrong, finally throws in the towel 29 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Given up now, resorting to hominem attacks. Next he will turn into a grammar cop. Biggest man-child on the board. After pages of attacks and being wrong, he declares victory and goes home. Seen this too many times. 17 hours ago, 5-Points said: It's really remarkable how ignorant people can be in the midst of a tantrum. 17 hours ago, GutterBoy said: They really only care about winning message board arguments. Nailed it before this even happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: A tranny told me I had to use the tongs earlier today. True story. She wouldn't let you grab her d with your hand? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,802 Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: She wouldn't let you grab her d with your hand? WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: She wouldn't let you grab her d with your hand? That would be a he. Homey don’t play that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,802 Posted July 19, 2023 Guttercrotch has really given up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,388 Posted July 19, 2023 3 hours ago, RogerDodger said: Helpful Hint: If you want to maximize profit you try to get all your equipment running all the time. Just like you want all your employees to be working all the time. Equipment sitting idle is a big time money loser. Add this to your business plan: - Rental agreement to temporarily replace trucks that break down or need service. - Service agreement for repair shop, top priority. Lock in prices. - If your fleet is big enough do a cost comparison if it make sense to hire your own mechanics to service and repair. You're welcome. So your idea of "saving money" is to run double the number of trucks, with double the number of drivers, to deliver the same amount of beer that could be delivered with half the number of trucks and drivers. BRILLIANT! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted July 19, 2023 This thread is gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted July 19, 2023 Amazon lays off thousands. Not a Lib anywhere: "Come on damnit, just keep buying! Think about the jobs!" 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 19, 2023 The trucks should be running all the time! People should be working all the time! Doesn't matter if there is no product deliver, run the trucks, drive around, work 24/7! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Amazon lays off thousands. Not a Lib anywhere: "Come on damnit, just keep buying! Think about the jobs!" People didn't boycott Amazon over a tranny. You suck at this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted July 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Amazon lays off thousands. Not a Lib anywhere: "Come on damnit, just keep buying! Think about the jobs!" Department stores closing left and right in lib run cities due to crime, people outbifna job. Bupkiss from them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,964 Posted July 19, 2023 I have some sympathy for the employees who potentially lose their jobs and had no control over the situation. However, this pushback needs to be a lesson for other companies. It’s unfortunate these employees are paying the price, but someone had to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: So your idea of "saving money" is to run double the number of trucks, with double the number of drivers, to deliver the same amount of beer that could be delivered with half the number of trucks and drivers. BRILLIANT! Pretty sure if I ctrl-f "double" I won't get any hits except your post. If you can't refute what they say, just make chit up that they didn't say. Gutterboy Posting 101. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: The trucks should be running all the time! People should be working all the time! Doesn't matter if there is no product deliver, run the trucks, drive around, work 24/7! Everything sounds dumb coming out of the BonusBoy filter. But what you accidentally said isn't too bad of an idea. If you've got extra trucks that are idle they would be making money if you leased them out. Bud Light can have a recall clause in the lease agreement to get them back quick if anyone ever decides to drink their beer again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,388 Posted July 20, 2023 40 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Pretty sure if I ctrl-f "double" I won't get any hits except your post. If you can't refute what they say, just make chit up that they didn't say. Gutterboy Posting 101. In one post you say distributors should max out trailer loads to maximize profits. A point with which I agree, by the way. In a subsequent post you suggest if there are idle trucks you should use them to maximize profits. If you're going to utilize the idle rigs, you're going to have to reduce the loads on the rigs you had previously maxed out. Which means you have a bunch of half empty trucks rolling around delivering goods you could've delivered on fewer trucks, with fewer drivers, burning less fuel and causing less wear and tear on the fleet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, GutterBoy said: People didn't boycott Amazon over a tranny. You suck at this. I thought you didn't care what people did with their money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted July 20, 2023 So to gutter marketing is ONLY there to gain for a big brand. But isn't allowed to hurt. For the record gutter can "pick on boycotters". He has "laughed" for months. But the jobs thing? Make sense of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted July 20, 2023 Pendulums swing back and forth; to be sure 2023 is the end of this insane cycle and a correction is happening. This “no gender, every single thing is racist” cycle has to be up. There is a correction coming. The, normal folks, the silent majority eventually throws their collective weight around. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,130 Posted July 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Pendulums swing back and forth; to be sure 2023 is the end of this insane cycle and a correction is happening. This “no gender, every single thing is racist” cycle has to be up. There is a correction coming. The, normal folks, the silent majority eventually throws their collective weight around. Take a look at who’s blowing this thread up and get back to me about “normal folks.” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 20, 2023 41 minutes ago, 5-Points said: In one post you say distributors should max out trailer loads to maximize profits. A point with which I agree, by the way. In a subsequent post you suggest if there are idle trucks you should use them to maximize profits. If you're going to utilize the idle rigs, you're going to have to reduce the loads on the rigs you had previously maxed out. Which means you have a bunch of half empty trucks rolling around delivering goods you could've delivered on fewer trucks, with fewer drivers, burning less fuel and causing less wear and tear on the fleet. You shouldn't target to have idle rigs in the first place. Why did you buy a bunch of extra trucks that arent making money? Sell them. Lease them out. Do something, it's dead money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,388 Posted July 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: You shouldn't target to have idle rigs in the first place. Why did you buy a bunch of extra trucks that arent making money? Sell them. Lease them out. Do something, it's dead money. Volume fluctuates daily. Trucks you may not need on Monday or Wednesday, you may need on Tuesday and Friday. Putting trucks on the road is expensive. Routes are designed for maximum efficiency. Using as few trucks and drivers as possible on a daily basis saves money. That doesn't mean you'll never need the extra trucks or drivers, you just want to minimize their usage whenever possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 20, 2023 24 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Volume fluctuates daily. Trucks you may not need on Monday or Wednesday, you may need on Tuesday and Thursday. Putting trucks on the road is expensive. Routes are designed for maximum efficiency. Using as few trucks and drivers as possible on a daily basis saves money. That doesn't mean you'll never need the extra trucks or drivers, you just want to minimize their usage whenever possible. 100% agree. I never said anything different. If you ctrl-f "maximize" you'll find me saying that multiple time. Now if you suddenly had to fill Bud Light's shelf space in addition to yours, you need more trucks and drivers etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites