16 Year old shot twice after ringing doorbell, shooter held and released

[TimHauck 2,877]

 

 

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

Ban doorbells!!  

How does he not know his own house?

You know the saying...it takes a neighborhood...

[RLLD 4,230]

MOre info

Sad situation, people should not be shooting at others for knocking on their door  

Looks like people are already out forming a mob.....

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

9 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Ban doorbells!!  

How does he not know his own house?

You know the saying...it takes a neighborhood...

His brother wasn't at his house, he was at a friends house and the victim messed up the address and knocked on the wrong door. 

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Police learned the teenager’s parents had asked him to pick up his siblings at an address on 115th Terrace, but he accidentally went to a home on 115th Street, where he was shot, according to police.

 

[Crestwood 2 128]

Hopefully the kid has learned his lesson 

[Fireballer 2,642]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

Even if “questioned and released” was accurate, why do you think it went down that way?

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

What city?

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

If the premise in this thread proves to be true the shooter should go away for a long time.

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

If the premise in this thread proves to be true the shooter should go away for a long time.

AGREE 100%

[TimHauck 2,877]

30 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Even if “questioned and released” was accurate, why do you think it went down that way?

We know he was taken into custody and then later released. Are you saying you don’t believe he was asked any questions?  We also know the police chief said:

“the information that we have now, it does not say that that is racially motivated. That’s still an active investigation.“

Not sure why he would say that if they did not ask the shooter any questions.

But if it makes you feel better I’ll change “questioned” to “held”

[RLLD 4,230]

I think we should take heart that we finally found a black life that matters, this is good news right?

[The Real timschochet 6,770]

15 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think we should take heart that we finally found a black life that matters, this is good news right?

It didn’t matter to the shooter, obviously. And that’s why the slogan remains a vital one in our society. Black Lives Matter. Repeat it and honor it. 

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

It didn’t matter to the shooter, obviously. And that’s why the slogan remains a vital one in our society. Black Lives Matter. Repeat it and honor it. 

I think this is often true, and if we look the large numbers of people being shot, notably AA's, it would likely be true that the victims life did not matter to the shooter.  Luckily for this kid, his shooter was the correct race to ensure his life actually matters.

[TimHauck 2,877]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think this is often true, and if we look the large numbers of people being shot, notably AA's, it would likely be true that the victims life did not matter to the shooter.  Luckily for this kid, his shooter was the correct race to ensure his life actually matters.

I don't think it has to do with the race of the shooter, I think it has to do with the perceived safety of the area as a whole  The police were able to locate this shooter based on "reports of a shooting," not because the shooter was white.  I would bet a lot witnesses of Chicago shootings for example don't call the police after they happen.

[seafoam1 3,031]

24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It didn’t matter to the shooter, obviously. And that’s why the slogan remains a vital one in our society. Black Lives Matter. Repeat it and honor it. 

Saying black lives matter implies they matter more than anyone else. 

Plus, 'black lives matter' includes black murderers. Because black murderers are black lives.

You are sick and twisted to make all this shlt about race. But since you want to talk race, 13% commits 56% of all violent crimes.

That number should indicate that black lives matter only with respect to needing to have less of them around. 

[RLLD 4,230]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I don't think it has to do with the race of the shooter, I think it has to do with the perceived safety of the area as a whole  The police were able to locate this shooter based on "reports of a shooting," not because the shooter was white.  I would bet a lot witnesses of Chicago shootings for example don't call the police after they happen.

Curiously, the media seems to be capturing a different angle : Rink

If you are correct, I would anticipate havng more than just this headline dominating national media.  

[TimHauck 2,877]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Curiously, the media seems to be capturing a different angle : Rink

If you are correct, I would anticipate havng more than just this headline dominating national media.  

Weird how you are implying the shooter's race "ensures this kid's life matters," but it's really the opposite that people are mad about.

I know you like hypotheticals.  Let's say the shooter was black, and they arrived to find the 16 year old shot on the shooter's doorstep.   Do you think the shooter would have still been held and released?  

[The Real timschochet 6,770]

9 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Saying black lives matter implies they matter more than anyone else. 

Plus, 'black lives matter' includes black murderers. Because black murderers are black lives.

You are sick and twisted to make all this shlt about race. But since you want to talk race, 13% commits 56% of all violent crimes.

That number should indicate that black lives matter only with respect to needing to have less of them around. 

I’m not the one making it about race. The shooter apparently did. Your comments and those of @RLLD are, I believe, irrelevant to the matter at hand, which is: if the kid ringing the doorbell had been white, he wouldn’t have been shot. He was shot, most likely, because he was black and the homeowner felt threatened. 
 

It’s probably the same reason that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin. Probably the same reason that Kyle Rittenhouse took a rifle into a place he had no business being and ended up using it, probably because he panicked. It’s an unreasonable, racist fear of young black men. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

Real Tim being a moron again 

[Baker Boy 1,699]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not the one making it about race. The shooter apparently did. Your comments and those of @RLLD are, I believe, irrelevant to the matter at hand, which is: if the kid ringing the doorbell had been white, he wouldn’t have been shot. He was shot, most likely, because he was black and the homeowner felt threatened. 
 

It’s probably the same reason that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin. Probably the same reason that Kyle Rittenhouse took a rifle into a place he had no business being and ended up using it, probably because he panicked. It’s an unreasonable, racist fear of young black men. 

I wasn’t aware of the fact that Kyle Rittenhouse killed Black people in Kenosha.

[The Real timschochet 6,770]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Real Tim being a moron again 

Wow how can I respond to such a brilliant rebuttal? You got me. 

[The Real timschochet 6,770]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

I wasn’t aware of the fact that Kyle Rittenhouse killed Black people in Kenosha.

He didn’t. But he was there in the first place because of his racism. 

[RLLD 4,230]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Weird how you are implying the shooter's race "ensures this kid's life matters," but it's really the opposite that people are mad about.

I know you like hypotheticals.  Let's say the shooter was black, and they arrived to find the 16 year old shot on the shooter's doorstep.   Do you think the shooter would have still been held and released?  

That you find that wierd suggests something of a disconnect from reality.  That reality is that so long as black people kill black people there will be no problem, but should it arise that a white person shoots or otherwise does really just anything to an AA.....the mob erupts.  So this entire line of "Black Lives Matter" is not a universal principle, it only applies in certain instances....therefore, we can see how politics is manipulating. 

As to your second point, that happening, recently, in DC....so this pretending that there is no justice is just farcical, and it really needs to stop . 

[seafoam1 3,031]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

He didn’t. But he was there in the first place because of his racism. 

And you post here because of your racism.

[Alias Detective 1,402]

I take it the shooter is a white male?

[RLLD 4,230]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not the one making it about race. The shooter apparently did. Your comments and those of @RLLD are, I believe, irrelevant to the matter at hand, which is: if the kid ringing the doorbell had been white, he wouldn’t have been shot. He was shot, most likely, because he was black and the homeowner felt threatened. 
 

It’s probably the same reason that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin. Probably the same reason that Kyle Rittenhouse took a rifle into a place he had no business being and ended up using it, probably because he panicked. It’s an unreasonable, racist fear of young black men. 

So then in this instance you have obtained insights that the shooter shot because of color, and how did you arrive at that conclusion?

[The Real timschochet 6,770]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

And you post here because of your racism.

Smart comeback except it doesn’t make any sense. 

[The Real timschochet 6,770]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

So then in this instance you have obtained insights that the shooter shot because of color, and how did you arrive at that conclusion?

I think it’s a reasonable assumption. I certainly hope I’m wrong, I don’t think I am. 

[seafoam1 3,031]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Smart comeback except it doesn’t make any sense. 

Makes perfect sense. 

[RogerDodger 798]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

And you post here because of your racism.

Tim is the Kyle Rittenhouse of the Geek Club.

[The Real timschochet 6,770]

I’m also pretty sure that when the shooter gets to tell his story, he’ll say the kid made some threatening move. And I’m fairly sure that at least some of you will buy it. 

[The Real timschochet 6,770]

Just now, RogerDodger said:

Tim is the Kyle Rittenhouse of the Geek Club.

I thought he was a hero of yours. 

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think it’s a reasonable assumption. I certainly hope I’m wrong, I don’t think I am. 

I think it sounds like a racist assumption.  But racism originates from Democrats and Liberalism so that aligns.  I think it does not matter what color the shooter or the victim are.

I think the victim deserves the full support of the community and the justice system, and the shooter deserves to be innocent until proven guilty....and when found guilty the fullest and proper punishment.....regardless of color. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Wow how can I respond to such a brilliant rebuttal? You got me. 

you brought Rittenhouse into this discussion, who was not there cause of his racism.  flat out lie

therefore you are an idiot

[RogerDodger 798]

   Don't go north of the river and knock on old white folks homes at 10pm at night.  

[seafoam1 3,031]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m also pretty sure that when the shooter gets to tell his story, he’ll say the kid made some threatening move. And I’m fairly sure that at least some of you will buy it. 

So you won't "buy" anything the shooter says. Make sure you lie about that if you want to be on the jury and convict him without knowing the full story.

[Baker Boy 1,699]

21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

He didn’t. But he was there in the first place because of his racism. 

You’re changing the narrative again but since you brought it up could you provide a link showing his racism or are you talking out of your butt like you usually do?

[TimHauck 2,877]

@RLLD It's not true that "so long as black people kill black people there will be no problem."  It matters where it happens.   If it happens in "bad" areas then it's more likely that "no one will care."  If it happens in what is considered a safe area then people will care.  Which is why I offered the hypothetical in this case.  I don't know the specifics of this area but if the 16 year old was walking alone to pick up his siblings then I'm betting it was a decent area.   

Kinda hilarious that you are complaining about @The Real timschochet for "making a racist assumption" (which I'd actually agree with)...but you're doing the same exact thing if you really are suggesting that it's possible "no one would care" about this 16 year old if his shooter was black.

[RLLD 4,230]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

@RLLD It's not true that "so long as black people kill black people there will be no problem."  It matters where it happens.   If it happens in "bad" areas then it's more likely that "no one will care."  If it happens in what is considered a safe area then people will care.  Which is why I offered the hypothetical in this case.  I don't know the specifics of this area but if the 16 year old was walking alone to pick up his siblings then I'm betting it was a decent area.   

Kinda hilarious that you are complaining about @The Real timschochet for "making a racist assumption" (which I'd actually agree with)...but you're doing the same exact thing if you really are suggesting that it's possible "no one would care" about this 16 year old if his shooter was black.

It is true. Black people are being killed daily, we only see it rise to being newsworthy when the shooter is white. You cannot pretend it away.

It is not racist to point to a fact.  And we can certainly start pulling up names of black people shot over the weekend where no mob formed, no national media picks it up....and that does not bother you? Don't THOSE lives matter too? Based on the response to the killing, it would seem not. 

This is just another example where the farcical liberal propogandists will face up to their own racism and not accept it. 

[TimHauck 2,877]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

It is true. Black people are being killed daily, we only see it rise to being newsworthy when the shooter is white. You cannot pretend it away.

It is not racist to point to a fact.  And we can certainly start pulling up names of black people shot over the weekend where no mob formed, no national media picks it up....and that does not bother you? Don't THOSE lives matter too? Based on the response to the killing, it would seem not. 

This is just another example where the farcical liberal propogandists will face up to their own racism and not accept it. 

It's like you didn't even read what I wrote.

Just to be clear, what "fact" are you talking about here?  Are you saying it's a "fact" that if this shooter was black, "there would be no problem"?