jerryskids 5,248 Posted April 21, 2023 Quote Most first-time workers get a promotion within 3 years. Gen Z wants theirs right away. Shoot for the moon, right? According to a survey of 2,500 graduating college seniors conducted by the LaSalle Network, a staffing and recruiting firm, the latest batch of Gen Z workers want—nay, expect—to earn their first promotion within one year on the job. That might be a bit ambitious. Especially just out of college, and especially in an unpredictable economy as recession fears swirl, promotions (much less raises) could be extra-difficult to come by. “Earning a promotion is hard, even in a strong economic environment,” Amanda Day, director of people enablement at employment firm Remote, told Fortune last month. “To do so in a recession, especially if you’re working remotely, you need to be deliberate to ensure that the work you are doing aligns with how your performance is being evaluated." Naturally, when an entry-level worker can expect a promotion varies widely by industry and company. Getting promoted typically takes one to two years as you gain experience, according to Indeed. But new workforce entrants should expect a promotion once every three years, ZipRecruiter CEO Ian Siegel has said in the past—far past Gen Z's 12-month expectation. But “if you aren’t moving up after three years, there’s a problem,” he said. ... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-first-time-workers-promotion-130000088.html?.tsrc=1013 Every year? So if you work for, say, 30 years, you can expect 30 promotions in your 30-layer deep hierarchy? I really worry about this generation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,055 Posted April 21, 2023 Most of them have no clue that life is a competitive sport. I get people want work life balance and that's a good thing. The problem, though, is the guy who was raised by immigrants who worked 12 hours a day, seven days a week to establish a life in this country is working 60 hours a week and going way above the call of duty because they understand you eat what you kill. How do you justify giving someone a promotion over that person because you showed up and "did what was asked." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,772 Posted April 21, 2023 I bet the laid off workers at Facebook, Google, Goldman Sachs and Disney would be ok waiting on a promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,300 Posted April 21, 2023 Promotion? Pish...They all expect to come out of college and be hired as a VP or higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,772 Posted April 21, 2023 Those 8 dollar Lattes and 15 dollar salads aren’t going to pay for themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,578 Posted April 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Promotion? Pish...They all expect to come out of college and be hired as a VP or higher. Why would any gen-z take a job as low paying as a VP? It's CEO straight out of college MINIMUM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted April 21, 2023 Of course they do.....and you better give them what you have earned, or else....its just the liberal way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted April 21, 2023 Article doesn't say what %, and the survey needs to be downloaded. I wonder if it's 80% or 20%. And I wonder how the questions were worded. This is a lazy click bait article. Either way I'm not sure it's a Gen Z problem. I've seen the same with Millenials. And quite frankly when I think back to when I graduated school, I wanted promotions and expected them, and got them. I think it's a younger person mindset. Doesn't mean that they don't expect to pay their dues and work hard, just that they expect to get rewarded for it. I actually think this mindset is better than previous generations. Older folk expect to get promoted based on tenure and not performance. But we're in a performance driven world now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,578 Posted April 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Article doesn't say what %, and the survey needs to be downloaded. I wonder if it's 80% or 20%. And I wonder how the questions were worded. This is a lazy click bait article. Either way I'm not sure it's a Gen Z problem. I've seen the same with Millenials. And quite frankly when I think back to when I graduated school, I wanted promotions and expected them, and got them. I think it's a younger person mindset. Doesn't mean that they don't expect to pay their dues and work hard, just that they expect to get rewarded for it. I actually think this mindset is better than previous generations. Older folk expect to get promoted based on tenure and not performance. But we're in a performance driven world now. Look at this GutterPedo moron, always with an excuse. Gotta' protect the tribe AT ALL COSTS! Even if that means you have to look like a fool doing it. GTFO you idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted April 21, 2023 If you don't like the money you make get into sales. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,078 Posted April 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Article doesn't say what %, and the survey needs to be downloaded. I wonder if it's 80% or 20%. And I wonder how the questions were worded. This is a lazy click bait article. Either way I'm not sure it's a Gen Z problem. I've seen the same with Millenials. And quite frankly when I think back to when I graduated school, I wanted promotions and expected them, and got them. I think it's a younger person mindset. Doesn't mean that they don't expect to pay their dues and work hard, just that they expect to get rewarded for it. I actually think this mindset is better than previous generations. Older folk expect to get promoted based on tenure and not performance. But we're in a performance driven world now. Tread lightly there you RACIST!!! That sounds like MERITOCRACY, which we are told is based in whiteness! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,480 Posted April 21, 2023 I think they will get what they want, welcome to the new America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,154 Posted April 21, 2023 It’s my money and I need it now! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,225 Posted April 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, frank said: It’s my money and I need it now! Call J.G. Wentworth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,593 Posted April 21, 2023 2 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Article doesn't say what %, and the survey needs to be downloaded. I wonder if it's 80% or 20%. And I wonder how the questions were worded. They probably got a Liberal Arts degree and are upset that they spent $250,000 on College for a $30,000 a year job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted April 21, 2023 2 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Article doesn't say what %, and the survey needs to be downloaded. I wonder if it's 80% or 20%. And I wonder how the questions were worded. This is a lazy click bait article. "When asked what their top 3 priorities were." "More than half 54%" Guy says he works in IT but has trouble with downloads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,772 Posted April 21, 2023 Just now, RogerDodger said: "When asked what their top 3 priorities were." "More than half 54%" Guy says he works in IT but has trouble with downloads. I don’t think he does anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted April 21, 2023 1 minute ago, RogerDodger said: "When asked what their top 3 priorities were." "More than half 54%" Guy says he works in IT but has trouble with downloads. No trouble, I just didn't feel like answering the questions and giving them my info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted April 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: No trouble, I just didn't feel like answering the questions and giving them my info. Guy says he's in IT and thinks you have to fill out the form with a real name and email. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted April 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Guy says he's in IT and thinks you have to fill out the form with a real name and email. Usually they email you the document you requested to avoid people from entering fake info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted April 21, 2023 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: Usually they email you the document you requested to avoid people from entering fake info A lot of the time the link just pops up when all they are trying to do is get you on their email list. Computer guys would give it a go and find out. Let me know if you need my help on any other IT issues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,772 Posted April 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: A lot of the time the link just pops up when all they are trying to do is get you on their email list. Computer guys would give it a go and find out. Let me know if you need my help on any other IT issues. The guy with endless aliases doesn’t have an email address for junk. Even I have one of those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted April 21, 2023 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: The guy with endless aliases doesn’t have an email address for junk. Even I have one of those. I think it's pretty safe to say he's not an IT guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,055 Posted April 21, 2023 I always thought he was a middle manager given how he immediately changes his principles given whatever he finds most advantageous. The Chargers/giants thing He was cool with racist and homophobic language and now he's an advocate for all things woke. That kind of hypocrisy and the unabashed way he defends it is a prerequisite for front line management. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 'Tator Salad' White 85 Posted April 21, 2023 3 hours ago, frank said: It’s my money and I need it now! 877 Cash Now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,772 Posted April 21, 2023 2 hours ago, nobody said: I always thought he was a middle manager given how he immediately changes his principles given whatever he finds most advantageous. The Chargers/giants thing He was cool with racist and homophobic language and now he's an advocate for all things woke. That kind of hypocrisy and the unabashed way he defends it is a prerequisite for front line management. Switching team allegiance after you reach your twenties is a low character move. People that do that lack principles. Funny no one ever bails on a team that’s winning titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 124 Posted April 22, 2023 This is why there are so many stupid job titles now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,578 Posted April 22, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 3:53 PM, RogerDodger said: I think it's pretty safe to say he's not an IT guy. He's more of a pedo and groomer guy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,578 Posted April 22, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 4:02 PM, nobody said: I always thought he was a middle manager given how he immediately changes his principles given whatever he finds most advantageous. The Chargers/giants thing He was cool with racist and homophobic language and now he's an advocate for all things woke. That kind of hypocrisy and the unabashed way he defends it is a prerequisite for front line management. The guy who stands for nothing will fall for anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,593 Posted April 22, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 4:53 PM, RogerDodger said: think it's pretty safe to say he's not an IT guy. He works feverishly at the Glory Hole to pay off that Liberal Arts degree. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites