Biden vs Trump…again.

[posty 2,700]

If people were smart, Biden would get no more than 120 votes...

[thegeneral 3,214]

22 minutes ago, posty said:

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Assuming no COVID-like election shenanigans, if the right can't beat a Biden\Harris re-election bid, we deserve everything we get.

There's nothing Biden can even point to as a success thus far, competing for one of the worst runs as President in history.

As a country, we should be extremely embarrassed that he is even considered re-running, let alone actually doing it.

Very well said...

You don’t really have to go back too far. Bush years were a much bigger disaster. Attacked the wrong nation, 20 years there. Housing meltdown, unemployment skyrocketed, stock market tank, etc.

[thegeneral 3,214]

26 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

I can retire in a few months.  I am looking to work on the Father Trump campaign in any way I can to save this country.  This election is too important 

Buffalo head hat, fur robe, and march on the Capitol?

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

49 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

2017-2019 were three of the best consecutive years in our nations history. Peace and prosperity ruled the land.  

During those 3 years, the only significant economic actions that Trump took was to: 

1. Cut taxes on large corporations while effectively raise taxes on the middle class. 
 

2. Impose tariffs on trade, particularly on China, particularly on US agriculture. 
 

I believe these actions severely weakened the US economy, though it took a few years to show. That is because ALL Presidential changes to the economy take a few years to show. The truth is, the economic prosperity you described above are the result of Obama’s policies, not Trump, (specifically Obama’s economic recovery and budget reductions from the previous, high spending Bush administration.) 

Likewise, we will see the results of Biden’s economic policies not now but in the next 4 years, whether he is re-elected or not. I expect they will be positive but we’ll see. 
 

If you disagree with this analysis please explain specifically what I got wrong and how. TIA

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

During those 3 years, the only significant economic actions that Trump took was to: 

1. Cut taxes on large corporations while effectively raise taxes on the middle class. 
 

2. Impose tariffs on trade, particularly on China, particularly on US agriculture. 
 

I believe these actions severely weakened the US economy, though it took a few years to show. That is because ALL Presidential changes to the economy take a few years to show. The truth is, the economic prosperity you described above are the result of Obama’s policies, not Trump, (specifically Obama’s economic recovery and budget reductions from the previous, high spending Bush administration.) 

Likewise, we will see the results of Biden’s economic policies not now but in the next 4 years, whether he is re-elected or not. I expect they will be positive but we’ll see. 
 

If you disagree with this analysis please explain specifically what I got wrong and how. TIA

My taxes got cut. I’m middle class.  Why do you keep telling me they weren’t ? I can look at my check and my taxes and see. He also doubled the child tax credit.   Why don’t you mention that? Been looking at them for a long, long time.  Longer than you. So pipe down with your nonsense. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,859]

32 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Buffalo head hat, fur robe, and march on the Capitol?

Vital statistics database research, volunteer work At senior centers and homeless shelters. Ballot completion and delivery service. Basic stuff. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,546]

On 4/23/2023 at 8:41 PM, thegeneral said:

It’s tiring explaining everything to your dumb ass

The irony of this post is astounding.

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

My taxes got cut. I’m middle class.  Why do you keep telling me they weren’t ? I can look at my check and my taxes and see. He also doubled the child tax credit.   Why don’t you mention that? Been looking at them for a long, long time.  Longer than you. So pipe down with your nonsense. 

Thanks for not addressing a single one of my points. Whatever tax break you received personally did not occur until 2019, and by then all of the advantages you think you were given were already erased by the awful trade policies. You didn’t gain at all. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

6 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Vital statistics database research, volunteer work At senior centers and homeless shelters. Ballot completion and delivery service. Basic stuff. 

What will be the excuse then if Trump loses?!?

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

5 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Vital statistics database research, volunteer work At senior centers and homeless shelters. Ballot completion and delivery service. Basic stuff. 

I’m pretty skeptical you’ll get a lot of homeless folks to vote for Trump. But I appreciate you working there and trying to help those poor folks out. 

[Horseman 2,458]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

My taxes got cut. I’m middle class.  Why do you keep telling me they weren’t ? I can look at my check and my taxes.  Been doing it for a long, long time.  Longer than you. 

Hard to tell if Tim is just being an idiot or if he's flat out lying again.  The Tax Reform doubled the standard deduction and lowered the individual brackets.  FACT.  

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The irony of this post is astounding.

The amount of basic stuff I have had to explain to Seachode is amazing. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,859]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

What will be the excuse then if Trump loses?!?

I live in a free state, Ohio, so I will have to take my services to foreign soil like Michigan or Pennsylvania.  That is a drawback to the plan.  

[Tree of Knowledge 1,859]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m pretty skeptical you’ll get a lot of homeless folks to vote for Trump. But I appreciate you working there and trying to help those poor folks out. 

The key is to get to the comatose junkies before the Biden harvesters.   

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

I live in a free state, Ohio, so I will have to take my services to foreign soil like Michigan or Pennsylvania.  That is a drawback to the plan.  

Ohio, Michigan, Penn rankings…toss up IMO

[posty 2,700]

14 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Hard to tell if Tim is just being an idiot or if he's flat out lying again. 

Yes...

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

2 minutes ago, posty said:

Yes...

Correct answer is neither. The tax cuts partly contributed to rising costs which effectively raises taxes on the middle and lower classes. Which is exactly what I wrote. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,859]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Ohio, Michigan, Penn rankings…toss up IMO

Ohio is MAGA Country with secure elections.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

18 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Hard to tell if Tim is just being an idiot or if he's flat out lying again.  The Tax Reform doubled the standard deduction and lowered the individual brackets.  FACT.  

And it doubled the child tax credit, that I still get in 2023. He capped the SALT deduction at 10k.  That doesn’t affect most middle class people. Now let’s see who says they are middle class after years of telling us they are killing it. 

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

Here is Forbes reviewing the terrible results of the Trump tax cut: 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianweller/2020/01/29/trumps-wasteful-tax-cuts-lead-to-continued-trillion-dollar-deficits-in-expanding-economy/amp/

Hardly a liberal point of view…

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Ohio is MAGA Country with secure elections.  

Funny how that works…when you lose unsecure…when you win secure!

Neat!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Here is Forbes reviewing the terrible results of the Trump tax cut: 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianweller/2020/01/29/trumps-wasteful-tax-cuts-lead-to-continued-trillion-dollar-deficits-in-expanding-economy/amp/

Hardly a liberal point of view…

Not the spending? 

[supermike80 1,913]

46 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

My taxes got cut. I’m middle class.  Why do you keep telling me they weren’t ? I can look at my check and my taxes and see. He also doubled the child tax credit.   Why don’t you mention that? Been looking at them for a long, long time.  Longer than you. So pipe down with your nonsense. 

Mine did too.  But CNN told him this, so he runs with it--you have no chance against that media powerhouse when it comes to Timmy.

[supermike80 1,913]

29 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Hard to tell if Tim is just being an idiot or if he's flat out lying again.  The Tax Reform doubled the standard deduction and lowered the individual brackets.  FACT.  

It's not Tim....Seriously..ITS NOT TIM.  It's CNN.  MSNBC..

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Mine did too.  But CNN told him this, so he runs with it--you have no chance against that media powerhouse when it comes to Timmy.

As if Tim gets a paycheck.  

[RLLD 4,230]

Boring.

I still hope that Desantis is able to secure the nomination.

That being said, no one seems to be mentioning that Biden's approval is so very low.  Isn't it interesting that the clear lack of support for him is not concerning to Democrats.  And we do not wonder why?

 

[Reality 3,121]

20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Here is Forbes reviewing the terrible results of the Trump tax cut: 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianweller/2020/01/29/trumps-wasteful-tax-cuts-lead-to-continued-trillion-dollar-deficits-in-expanding-economy/amp/

Hardly a liberal point of view…

How broken are you when you thinks it's a bad idea for citizens to keep more of their own money.  

It's the spending, stupid.

[HellToupee 1,778]

I’ll take anyone from either party over the incompetence we have now. Everyone running the shiteshow are clowns

[posty 2,700]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

I’ll take anyone from either party over the incompetence we have now. Everyone running the shiteshow are clowns

Really?  You would want AOC to be President or any of the "squad"?  More idiots like Pelosi?  Feinstein?  Maxine Walters?

I wouldn't go that far with your statement...

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

35 minutes ago, Reality said:

How broken are you when you thinks it's a bad idea for citizens to keep more of their own money.  

It's the spending, stupid.

You might have more clout on this subject if any Republican had cut spending ever. But like Trump, they always actually spend more than Democrats do. 

And most citizens didn’t keep more of their own money in Trump’s tax plan. You think they did because of the immediate child benefit increase. But check out the plan over 10 years and you’ll see that you’re actually paying more in than you did before. It was a scam and you fell for it. Congrats? 

 

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

You might have more clout on this subject if any Republican had cut spending ever. But like Trump, they always actually spend more than Democrats do. 

And most citizens didn’t keep more of their own money in Trump’s tax plan. You think they did because of the immediate child benefit increase. But check out the plan over 10 years and you’ll see that you’re actually paying more in than you did before. It was a scam and you fell for it. Congrats? 

 

There is that.

[Horseman 2,458]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You might have more clout on this subject if any Republican had cut spending ever. But like Trump, they always actually spend more than Democrats do. 

And most citizens didn’t keep more of their own money in Trump’s tax plan. You think they did because of the immediate child benefit increase. But check out the plan over 10 years and you’ll see that you’re actually paying more in than you did before. It was a scam and you fell for it. Congrats? 

 

What a dumb ass.

Tax breaks only for the rich!  No.

It raised costs! No.

Well, run it out 10 years!.  Ok....nope.

Tim <---  Show

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

What a dumb ass.

Tax breaks only for the rich!  No.

It raised costs! No.

Well, run it out 10 years!.  Ok....nope.

Tim <---  Show

Your assurances are, as usual, contradicted by reality. 

[BudBro 182]

Dems already proved they can beat Trump, and all of Trump's endorsees lost also.  Reps played right into their hands. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

3 minutes ago, BudBro said:

Dems already proved they can beat Trump, and all of Trump's endorsees lost also.  Reps played right into their hands. 

They have all their eggs in DeSantis’s basket, but he’s looking like a stuffed shirt.

Now there’s a huge block of Republicans who have to convince themselves that Donald Trump, the lunatic, is just fine. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You might have more clout on this subject if any Republican had cut spending ever. But like Trump, they always actually spend more than Democrats do. 

And most citizens didn’t keep more of their own money in Trump’s tax plan. You think they did because of the immediate child benefit increase. But check out the plan over 10 years and you’ll see that you’re actually paying more in than you did before. It was a scam and you fell for it. Congrats? 

 

Please explain the scam. 

[HellToupee 1,778]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

They have all their eggs in DeSantis’s basket, but he’s looking like a stuffed shirt.

Now there’s a huge block of Republicans who have to convince themselves that Donald Trump, the lunatic, is just fine. 

 

Out lunatic is better than your lunatic. We also know there are at least 9 Biden’s getting Chinese cash , not sure about Trumps

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

 

[HellToupee 1,778]

1 hour ago, posty said:

Really?  You would want AOC to be President or any of the "squad"?  More idiots like Pelosi?  Feinstein?  Maxine Walters?

I wouldn't go that far with your statement...

Hey numbnuts it’s called a hyperbolic statement

[BudBro 182]

14 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

They have all their eggs in DeSantis’s basket, but he’s looking like a stuffed shirt.

Now there’s a huge block of Republicans who have to convince themselves that Donald Trump, the lunatic, is just fine. 

 

In spite of us knowing Biden is on the take from China and Ukraine, and has our troops fighting the Russians, TDS still plagues half the country (plus the voting machine programmers).