Florida Surgeon General falsifies records to make Covid vaccine appear more dangerous

[Reality 3,121]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

also let me know when they make a "vaccine" that prevents covid

 

Well, at least it stopped you from spreading it...

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21 minutes ago, Reality said:

Well, at least it stopped you from spreading it...

Wait…this isn’t correct???

 

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18 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

"Yeah but", is your rebuttal?  LOL

I'm just confused what Fauci's role was in the alleged Russian Hoax investigation, and what one has to do with the other.

 

 

 

[Reality 3,121]

7 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Wait…this isn’t correct???

 

Well, that's different.

[TBayXXXVII 2,552]

7 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

I'm just confused what Fauci's role was in the alleged Russian Hoax investigation, and what one has to do with the other.

 

 

 

My point was the hypocrisy about "misinformation" and why are we to be upset about one thing and not the other... especially since one of them was illegally falsifying a legal document to initiate an illegal investigation on a private citizen.  That's severe enough to warrant being charged with treason.  As a country, we were apparently ok with treason, but not ok with a misinformation that may or may not have affected anyone.

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6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

My point was the hypocrisy about "misinformation" and why are we to be upset about one thing and not the other... especially since one of them was illegally falsifying a legal document to initiate an illegal investigation on a private citizen.  That's severe enough to warrant being charged with treason.  As a country, we were apparently ok with treason, but not ok with a misinformation that may or may not have affected anyone.

LOL 

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5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

My point was the hypocrisy about "misinformation" and why are we to be upset about one thing and not the other... especially since one of them was illegally falsifying a legal document to initiate an illegal investigation on a private citizen.  That's severe enough to warrant being charged with treason.  As a country, we were apparently ok with treason, but not ok with a misinformation that may or may not have affected anyone.

Now I get what you were going after.  In my mind there is a pretty substantial difference between lying about a political issue and lying about health-related studies.  For what it's worth, both are bad.

[The Real timschochet 6,815]

3 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Here are facts that we know....

• Fauci, knowing that the US restricted gain of function, decided to do it in China where it was legal.
• Fauci knew what was going on in Wuhan
• Fauci knows that the COVID virus came from a lab.

ALL of these things were lied about... and Liberals protect him and turned their ire towards Trump during COVID as well as on conservatives in general.

So, when someone comes out and says "Did that alleged misinformation deal with lying about life saving vaccines?", he can shove that high horse he's on up his focking azz.  Fauci's misinformation (or coverup... whichever word you want to use), caused over a 5 Million lives world wide, yet the Democrat party pushed that MISINFORMATION (or coverup... again, your preference), and censored people who did bring it up.  Don't come here telling me I should be outraged by someone who may or may not have affected a couple hundred lives.

On top of that, he's like, oh look... Russian collusion while a federal employee is falsifying legal documents to commit an illegal search/investigation that occupied YEARS and MILLIONS of dollars based on "misinformation".  Yeah, he can fock off.

I admit to not being the biggest expert regarding the various conspiracies surrounding Dr. Fauci, but my understanding is that everything you listed here as a “fact” is not only hotly disputed but largely dismissed as bunk by the news sources which I regard as credible. So I’m afraid I am forced to dismiss this post in its entirety. 
 

I’ve always regarded Dr.Fauci as a great American hero who has saved millions of lives, both during the AIDS crisis and Covid. I find the attacks against him from the right to be pretty much despicable and generally anti-science. You haven’t presented any factual information that would cause me to change my mind about this. 

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There is no evidence he falsified anything.  Ignoring some evidence to focus on other evidence is not falsification, it is what the media does everyday.  The left just gets pissed when someone else does it.  For over two years we were subjective to the same 5 minutes of video clips m from January 6th shown over and over and over agian, which were extremely selective because they showed only the most violent acts which occurred that day.  Then Tucker had the audacity to show some clips which demonstrated maybe things were as violent as the government media kept telling us.  The media had a god-damn stroke and viciously attacked Tucker for exposing the truth and accused him of doing exactly what they had been doing for over two years.  

Shove your spin up you god damn ass.  The left is guilty of doing this every damn day, very selectively picking out data points to mislead the public.  The most violent riots in American history are mostly peaceful.  The most deadly pandemic in the history of the world, was not all that.  Transgender children are not offing themselves left and right because they are not allowed to get their penises chopped off. 

Just because this man wants to focus on the negative impacts instead of having some pharma-whoor brushing them under the rug as "not significant", doesn't mean he is lying.  When the so-called vaccine kills some you know, it is significant.   

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

man if only pfizer didnt falsify documents in the first place we wouldn't be here

what was falsified?

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17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I admit to not being the biggest expert regarding the various conspiracies surrounding Dr. Fauci, but my understanding is that everything you listed here as a “fact” is not only hotly disputed but largely dismissed as bunk by the news sources which I regard as credible. So I’m afraid I am forced to dismiss this post in its entirety. 
 

I’ve always regarded Dr.Fauci as a great American hero who has saved millions of lives, both during the AIDS crisis and Covid. I find the attacks against him from the right to be pretty much despicable and generally anti-science. You haven’t presented any factual information that would cause me to change my mind about this. 

It's been "debunked" by saying "it's debunked", by leftist media outlets.  Fauci is full of crap and a fraud and people like you fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

Well, consider me personally despicable because that m'fer belongs in a grave.  He should be executed in my opinion.  I hope he rots in hell (if it exists).  After seeing what went down with COVID, I wouldn't be shocked if he were behind AIDS too.

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lot of whataboutisms coming in hot in this thread

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Double masks!

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Flip Flop Fauci Clown Show

 

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28 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

what was falsified?

We were told that the jab stopped transmission 

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2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

We were told that the jab stopped transmission 

The Pfizer trials did not say that.  They said it was 95% effective at preventing symptomatic infections.  Which was pretty accurate for about 7 months until new variants emerged.

 

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"I think Dr. Fauci put it best when he said that a person who’s vaccinated of COVID-19 is really a dead end for the virus meaning that it’s not going to be able to spread beyond that person.”

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

Just now, TimHauck said:

The Pfizer trials did not say that.  They said it was 95% effective at preventing symptomatic infections.  Which was pretty accurate for about 7 months until new variants emerged.

 

K sure sponsored by Pfizer 

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36 minutes ago, jonmx said:

There is no evidence he falsified anything.  Ignoring some evidence to focus on other evidence is not falsification

Yes there is, I posted it.  His conclusion was the vax "increased risk of cardiac death in 18-39 year old males," but he deleted a sensitivity analysis showing that wasn't actually true.

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Remember "breakthrough" infections? 

 

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[jonmx 2,429]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes there is, I posted it.  His conclusion was the vax "increased risk of cardiac death in 18-39 year old males," but he deleted a sensitivity analysis showing that wasn't actually true.

That is being selective,  not falsifying.  The data did show an increase.  Whether that increase was too small to statistically prove an increase is a separate point.

[jonmx 2,429]

14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The Pfizer trials did not say that.  They said it was 95% effective at preventing symptomatic infections.  Which was pretty accurate for about 7 months until new variants emerged.

 

But the talking points and the associated vax mandates was totally based on the vaccine stopping transmissions.  That was the justification to fire people. 

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4 minutes ago, jonmx said:

But the talking points and the associated vax mandates was totally based on the vaccine stopping transmissions.  That was the justification to fire people. 

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15 minutes ago, jonmx said:

That is being selective,  not falsifying.  The data did show an increase.  Whether that increase was too small to statistically prove an increase is a separate point.

You clearly don't understand anything about statistics.

But if we're using non statistically significant results now, even the published study showed that the vaccine "reduced" all-cause mortality.  So you'd still be wrong.

 

13 minutes ago, jonmx said:

But the talking points and the associated vax mandates was totally based on the vaccine stopping transmissions.  That was the justification to fire people. 

Well yeah, if it prevents 95% of infections, it did "stop" transmission, just not ALL transmission, which seems to be the gotcha that people are going for.

I was always against vax mandates, but interestingly some studies have shown that they may have been the most beneficial measure that was taken in terms of reducing deaths.

[jonmx 2,429]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

You clearly don't understand anything about statistics.

But if we're using non statistically significant results now, even the published study showed that the vaccine "reduced" all-cause mortality.  So you'd still be wrong.

 

Well yeah, if it prevents 95% of infections, it did "stop" transmission, just not ALL transmission, which seems to be the gotcha that people are going for.

I was always against vax mandates, but interestingly some studies have shown that they may have been the most beneficial measure that was taken in terms of reducing deaths.

I understand statistics quite well and and I understand it was misleading as I explained, but it is a bold face lie to say he falsified data.  Now you want to redefine what he said to turn it into a lie.  That is deceptive your part.  For what he narrowly said he was being technically honest, but extremely misleading.  

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1 minute ago, jonmx said:

I understand statistics quite well and and I understand it was misleading as I explained, but it is a bold face lie to say he falsified data.  Now you want to redefine what he said to turn it into a lie.  That is deceptive your part.  For what he narrowly said he was being technically honest, but extremely misleading.  

I specifically said he did not falsify "the data," he falsified the conclusion about the data.

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2 hours ago, paulinstl said:

Now I get what you were going after.  In my mind there is a pretty substantial difference between lying about a political issue and lying about health-related studies.  For what it's worth, both are bad.

Yeah, your “political issue” had no detrimental affects on the country or foreign policy.  They were just filibustering over naming a post office.  

[jonmx 2,429]

51 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I specifically said he did not falsify "the data," he falsified the conclusion about the data.

A conclusion is an opinion.  

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6 minutes ago, jonmx said:

A conclusion is an opinion.  

Oh cool so Fauci/Maddow/Walensky etc were just stating their opinions then too?

[Reality 3,121]

So, the subject of this thread needs corrected?

[TimHauck 2,905]

8 minutes ago, Reality said:

So, the subject of this thread needs corrected?

If it said "falsifies data," yes.  But it doesn't.

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Yeah, I sniffed out this bullshit from jump. The two Tims strike again. Dumb and dumber. But the dumber Tim is also a liar. Plain dumb Tim is just libtarded. 

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I was stomping my feet over a year ago about how we should be outraged that these studies seem to always have made up data and we should hold people accountable.  It was met with shrugs. 

The media says editing the conclusion of a study to fit an agenda is wrong and now we're supposed to be outraged.  You people are so controlled.

[TimHauck 2,905]

27 minutes ago, nobody said:

I was stomping my feet over a year ago about how we should be outraged that these studies seem to always have made up data and we should hold people accountable.  It was met with shrugs. 

The media says editing the conclusion of a study to fit an agenda is wrong and now we're supposed to be outraged.  You people are so controlled.

There have been plenty of bad studies (like many of the ones in favor of ivermectin), but I'm not sure if there were many that wrote conclusions that were in direct contrast to the data they collected.   There were people like Alex Berenson that would try to do that after the fact though

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9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

There have been plenty of bad studies (like many of the ones in favor of ivermectin), but I'm not sure if there were many that wrote conclusions that were in direct contrast to the data they collected.   There were people like Alex Berenson that would try to do that after the fact though

Yeesh with the ivm misdirection again.  There's a 500-page thread where all that info was made available to those who have amazingly "discovered" the mRNA jabs they were coerced to take wasn't a vaccine.  We were lied to.  It's probably best we acknowledge it. 

[TimHauck 2,905]

Professor Morris dropping truth bombs like always

 

 

 

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[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I admit to not being the biggest expert regarding the various conspiracies surrounding Dr. Fauci, but my understanding is that everything you listed here as a “fact” is not only hotly disputed but largely dismissed as bunk by the news sources which I regard as credible. So I’m afraid I am forced to dismiss this post in its entirety. 
 

I’ve always regarded Dr.Fauci as a great American hero who has saved millions of lives, both during the AIDS crisis and Covid. I find the attacks against him from the right to be pretty much despicable and generally anti-science. You haven’t presented any factual information that would cause me to change my mind about this. 

He focking killed people during aids 

[The Real timschochet 6,815]

11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

He focking killed people during aids 

I don’t believe you. Prove it.