Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, MDC said: Yeah, I feel sorry for mentally ill homeless. I don’t want aggressive ranting people around me either but I’m not going to revel in this guy’s death. You seem like a bit of an ass hole. Better than a whole ass. At least I am honest with myself. Now if I am on the subway with my kids and is happening...i am now involved. That changes things. But 800 miles away....dilligaf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted May 5, 2023 16 hours ago, Voltaire said: The marine hasn't been arrested because the NYPD are and remain the one decent institution in that city and they know he didn't do anything wrong. But this is not their decision. This is in far left Alvin Bragg's hands as well as far left NYC judges. They love criminals and hate ordinary people. There will be no real justice, the marine is going to get tossed to the wolves and get focked over like every other decent citizen who finds himself in a blue leftoid hellscape. Can you clarify something here? Do you consider the Marine who killed another human being to be in the “criminals” group or the “ordinary people” group? I generally consider killers to be in the “criminals” group myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, dogcows said: Can you clarify something here? Do you consider the Marine who killed another human being to be in the “criminals” group or the “ordinary people” group? Hero group...people that take action to stop injustice and protect people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, Cloaca du jour said: Hero group...people that take action to stop injustice and protect people Killing a person who didn’t touch you (or anybody else on the train) is heroic? I don’t agree with your concept of heroism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted May 5, 2023 So we had to wait for him to sucker punch some passenger??? Gtfoh with that BS. Preemptive strike...well done!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,115 Posted May 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: Better than a whole ass. At least I am honest with myself. Now if I am on the subway with my kids and is happening...i am now involved. That changes things. But 800 miles away....dilligaf. You sure seem triggered by my fairly tepid expression of sympathy for the mentally ill homeless people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 So he gets charged and convicted. Then what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted May 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, MDC said: You sure seem triggered by my fairly tepid expression of sympathy for the mentally ill homeless people. Nah, no triggers...just allergic to complete BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,115 Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Cloaca du jour said: Nah, no triggers...just allergic to complete BS. You’re projecting like mad. Have a great day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted May 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, MDC said: You’re projecting like mad. Have a great day. I said Good Day!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,121 Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: What if pigs could fly....just STFU..whataboutism. live in reality...just for a minute. Umbrella sales and power washer sales would skyrocket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, dogcows said: Killing a person who didn’t touch you (or anybody else on the train) is heroic? I don’t agree with your concept of heroism. youre one of those chicks that would sit by while a crazy person got in a womans face and not stop it, good job crazy person threatens multiple people, thats creating a unsafe space for everyone in a box, and says hes willing to do to cause harm. So bad 3 separate individuals take it upon themselves to subdue the crazy, the crazy whaling and fighting needs to be restrained with a choke hold. Crazy person dies, nobody else hurt HERO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So he gets charged and convicted. Then what? Then his life is ruined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So he gets charged and convicted. Then what? Then he’s in jail, off the street, and he won’t go around murdering other people on the subway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted May 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Then his life is ruined. But hey he’ll still be alive unlike the man he killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 5, 2023 4 hours ago, GutterBoy said: I guarantee if the homeless dude killed the marine you would be crying about the hero that was murdered by the savage. Also why does anything matter? Thousands of kids are raped and murdered by wealthy tourists in Thailand every year, but we talk about tranny's and bud light Nah, what you described is happening every day, no protests no marching no media whining And here, this one person somehow creates a response out of all the many others…what is so special about him or this situation that makes his life suddenly…”matter”? No one apparently can explain this… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, dogcows said: Then he’s in jail, off the street, and he won’t go around murdering other people on the subway. Cool. What about the homeless? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 A bunch of Jodies in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted May 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Cool. What about the homeless? Bring back asylums and nurse ratched Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, Cloaca du jour said: Bring back asylums and nurse ratched Sort of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 If we only gave the mentally ill homeless a home they would stay in their home and not be mentally ill anymore. Let’s do it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted May 5, 2023 29 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If we only gave the mentally ill homeless a home they would stay in their home and not be mentally ill anymore. Let’s do it! We need to do something. The current situation is untenable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: We need to do something. The current situation is untenable. Well, it’s not a chicken/ egg situation. It’s all egg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, dogcows said: Killing a person who didn’t touch you (or anybody else on the train) is heroic? I don’t agree with your concept of heroism. The guy did threaten violence. I think for the Marine to subdue him was appropriate and yes, heroic. It’s unfortunate that a death resulted, but… Theres a famous story in New York about a woman named Kitty Genovese. Years ago she was raped and cried out for help. According to reports dozens of people heard her scream but nobody lifted a finger. It was a dangerous neighborhood and nobody wanted to get involved. This Marine decided in this instance to get involved. I think that takes courage. I admire that sort of courage. It’s same courage that I see from police and firefighters who are willing to run towards the danger not away from it. I admire it because I don’t know if I would have the courage myself to do that (I’ve never been tested.) Im not saying we should give the Marine a parade. Perhaps the choke hold was too long and unnecessary. I don’t know. But even so it was brave and I won’t take a part in vilifying what he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted May 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The guy did threaten violence. I think for the Marine to subdue him was appropriate and yes, heroic. It’s unfortunate that a death resulted, but… Theres a famous story in New York about a woman named Kitty Genovese. Years ago she was raped and cried out for help. According to reports dozens of people heard her scream but nobody lifted a finger. It was a dangerous neighborhood and nobody wanted to get involved. This Marine decided in this instance to get involved. I think that takes courage. I admire that sort of courage. It’s same courage that I see from police and firefighters who are willing to run towards the danger not away from it. I admire it because I don’t know if I would have the courage myself to do that (I’ve never been tested.) Im not saying we should give the Marine a parade. Perhaps the choke hold was too long and unnecessary. I don’t know. But even so it was brave and I won’t take a part in vilifying what he did. First, you changed what I said. He didn’t touch anybody. You then changed it to “he THREATENED violence.” Oh so let’s just move the goalposts? Even with that, I didn’t see him actually threaten anybody. I disagree completely with the rest. Have you ever ridden the NYC (or any other) subway? People do crazy sh!t all the time. Here’s a tip: If you ignore them, they go away. This Marine never should have laid a hand on the guy. Whether he meant to kill him or not - I don’t know. But he did. Somebody being black and acting weird is NOT punishable by a death sentence. That Marine’s actions were NOT brave in the slightest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, dogcows said: I disagree completely. Have you ever ridden the NYC (or any other) subway? People do crazy sh!t all the time. Here’s a tip: If you ignore them, they go away. This Marine never should have laid a hand on the guy. Whether he meant to kill him or not - I don’t know. But he did. Somebody acting weird is NOT punishable by a death sentence. GTFO. That lady he slammed into the side of the train was ignoring him. She got a busted face for taking your advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 The people that have been pushed in front of subways must have been paying attention to the crazy ones that did it, not ignoring them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, dogcows said: First, you changed what I said. He didn’t touch anybody. You then changed it to “he THREATENED violence.” Oh so let’s just move the goalposts? Even with that, I didn’t see him actually threaten anybody. I disagree completely with the rest. Have you ever ridden the NYC (or any other) subway? People do crazy sh!t all the time. Here’s a tip: If you ignore them, they go away. This Marine never should have laid a hand on the guy. Whether he meant to kill him or not - I don’t know. But he did. Somebody being black and acting weird is NOT punishable by a death sentence. That Marine’s actions were NOT brave in the slightest. Hey look, another liberal blaming victims of violent crimes. They’re so inconvenient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted May 5, 2023 44 minutes ago, dogcows said: First, you changed what I said. He didn’t touch anybody. You then changed it to “he THREATENED violence.” Oh so let’s just move the goalposts? Even with that, I didn’t see him actually threaten anybody. I disagree completely with the rest. Have you ever ridden the NYC (or any other) subway? People do crazy sh!t all the time. Here’s a tip: If you ignore them, they go away. This Marine never should have laid a hand on the guy. Whether he meant to kill him or not - I don’t know. But he did. Somebody being black and acting weird is NOT punishable by a death sentence. That Marine’s actions were NOT brave in the slightest. I didn’t change anything. I responded to what you wrote. I’m not moving any goalposts. I agree with you about 95% of the time. Those are pretty good numbers. But I guess we see things differently here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So he gets charged and convicted. Then what? Back to searching for a life that matters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: Back to searching for a life that matters Yup. Funny how these protesters are just ready to go. It’s like they are on stand by. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,181 Posted May 5, 2023 6 hours ago, GutterBoy said: You've really become a brain washed zombie. Am I brainwashed because I help people in need even if it puts me at some risk of physical harm or am I brainwashed because not everyone on the subway was supportive of the marine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,181 Posted May 5, 2023 4 hours ago, dogcows said: Can you clarify something here? Do you consider the Marine who killed another human being to be in the “criminals” group or the “ordinary people” group? I generally consider killers to be in the “criminals” group myself. The marine is ordinary people. He has likely never been arrested in his life, although that may change at any moment. The mentally disturbed agitator he put a chokehold on has dozens of arrests, would be the criminal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,550 Posted May 5, 2023 6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: From what has been reported… I don’t think this Marine did anything wrong. I’m sorry the guy died but he instigated the situation. 6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: The bigger problem is the homeless issue. Can we all agree it’s the worst it’s ever been? We need to address this. There has to be a humane solution which gets most of these folks off the streets. A lot to unpack in what I quoted so I'll just say: I know you've gotten a lot of bad press here for your reputation from FBG, but I for one appreciate that you've changed your stance on this (I think) and the need to secure the border to enact meaningful immigration reform. 4 hours ago, dogcows said: Then he’s in jail, off the street, and he won’t go around murdering other people on the subway. Wow 3 hours ago, dogcows said: First, you changed what I said. He didn’t touch anybody. You then changed it to “he THREATENED violence.” Oh so let’s just move the goalposts? Even with that, I didn’t see him actually threaten anybody. I disagree completely with the rest. Have you ever ridden the NYC (or any other) subway? People do crazy sh!t all the time. Here’s a tip: If you ignore them, they go away. This Marine never should have laid a hand on the guy. Whether he meant to kill him or not - I don’t know. But he did. Somebody being black and acting weird is NOT punishable by a death sentence. That Marine’s actions were NOT brave in the slightest. And wow. Did you bang your head against the wall before you posted these? Dude had outstanding warrants including punching a 67 year old lady in the face, not dangerous? I feel for you that this violent crazy black guy got killed by an upstanding white guy and you can't make any transgressive headway out of it to destroy our country, maybe next time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 5, 2023 He slammed that 67 year old woman, who was minding her own business, face first into a train. I thought they were supposed to go away when you ignore them? We had a deal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Voltaire said: Am I brainwashed because I help people in need even if it puts me at some risk of physical harm or am I brainwashed because not everyone on the subway was supportive of the marine? You're brainwashed because you repeat the same alt right toxic bullsh1t that has infected this country. Also when was the last time you helped someone that put you as risk of physical harm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,092 Posted May 6, 2023 If you use the term 'alt right', you aren't a person that should be taken serious. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,181 Posted May 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You're brainwashed because you repeat the same alt right toxic bullsh1t that has infected this country. Also when was the last time you helped someone that put you as risk of physical harm? It's been a long while. A few weeks ago there was a loud arguement that wasn't violent and I made myself available nearby to make sure it stayed that way. I've had a few of those over the years. I imagine when I'm back in the classroom again, I'll have the responsibility to break up real fights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted May 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, Reality said: If you use the term 'alt right', you aren't a person that should be taken serious. HTH Toxic masculinity and “trans rights” too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He slammed that 67 year old woman, who was minding her own business, face first into a train. I thought they were supposed to go away when you ignore them? We had a deal. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites